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Heading into the 2017/18 season, the Fantasy Premier League reclassification of Roberto Firmino from midfielder to forward was a source of much chatter.

Three Gameweeks in and Firmino has made fools of those of us who shied away.

The Brazilian sits joint-top in the overall standings on 26 points, having notched two goals, a pair assists, and twice taken home a maximum bonus points haul. Indeed, only Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan (106) leads Firmino (101) in the Bonus Points System (BPS) to date.

Over this international break, interest in the Liverpool man has been understandably high. He has experienced one price hike already (from 8.5 to 8.6), and could possibly rise again between now and the Gameweek 4 deadline.

With Liverpool in rampant form – as evidenced by last week’s 4-0 demolition of Arsenal – Firmino offers managers an opportunity to save valuable funds by downgrading a premium forward option to a lower-priced alternative who has hitherto managed to outperform his more expensive rivals.

Here in the Technical Area, we thought that this week represented a good opportunity to dig into Firmino’s game in greater depth.

Specifically, we will be exploring how his profile compares to that of other FPL forwards and whether that early-season form can continue as the campaign unfolds.

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  1. AC Pilkington
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Just want a bit of WC help please, got 2.8 ITB and managed to get...

    Fabianski---Elliott
    Mee--Jones--Dunk---Cedric--Suttner
    Pogba---Brady--Chalobah--Eriksen--Antonio
    Firmino----Morata----Lukaku

    Gives me the option to upgrade to Kane or other big hitters in midfield if needed. Thoughts?

    1. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Would want either mane or salah.

    2. JONALDINHO
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Morata to Chicarito, Antonio to Alli, Brady to Salah

      1. AC Pilkington
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks guys

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        How does Morata to Chicharito enable those two moves? 😆

        Lukaku to Chicharito, maybe!

        1. AC Pilkington
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Because I have 2.8 ITB 🙂

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Is it still affordable? Brady is only 5.5m and Antonio is 7m, isn't he?

            1. AC Pilkington
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I have managed to tweak it enough but not sure double Liv is essential vs City?

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I have Firmino and Mané and am very happy with it. You could even go Mané and Salah and rake in those 5pt goals.

  2. thepeen555
    9 years, 1 month ago

    90 mins for Kane to tire him out, shame he didn't do much so probably still quite well rested

  3. RAFA THE GAFFA
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Predictions for the Everton-Spurs and Stoke-Man U games?

    1. Meppelfield
      9 years, 1 month ago

      0-1, 0-0

    2. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2-1 Everton
      3-1 united

    3. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-2
      0-2

    4. Ospina Colada
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-2
      1-1

    5. JONALDINHO
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-1, 0-1

    6. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-1
      0-1

    7. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-0
      0-1

    8. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      0 - 0
      0 - 2

    9. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      0-1
      0-2

    10. More Tragic
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-1
      1-1

    11. Goat
      9 years, 1 month ago

      1-2
      0-2

  4. Rogue Todd
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Quality Engalnd cap earned there for Livermore

  5. Epic Fail
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Terrible from Livemore. Didn't touch the ball all game.

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      9 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    2. thepeen555
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Waste of space lol

    3. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He still did more than Ox

  6. More Tragic
    9 years, 1 month ago

    No panic.

    England win.

    Harry is god,

    1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      9 years, 1 month ago

      hopefully a slightly lower priced one by next week

  7. Cok3y5murf
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kane dreadful. Price drop please

    1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      This

    2. Ode
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Do you still want to get him after that?

    3. Pieterke30
      9 years, 1 month ago

      How did he play tonight?

      Couldnt watch the game

    4. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not gonna happen 😆

  8. Syd.
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Northern Ireland have more points than France

    1. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      To be fair, Northern Island haven't got to play the mighty Luxembourg!

      1. how now brown cow
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Damn!

        1. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 1 month ago

          😎

    2. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      They haven't had to play Luxembourg

    3. Pariße
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Says more about NI than France tbf.

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That Pulis's West Brom core team could beat Pogba, Griezman et al? 😉

        1. Pariße
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Definitely 😀 Would struggle against Luxembourg though.

  9. Mika-eel
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What made you decide to follow a certain team? I remember watching Grobbelaar as a kid in the 80's and thought he was super man. Tried to catch Liverpool just to see him play. He was so flamboyant and made the game a joy to watch.

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Remember when I was a kid Michael Owen was my favourite player after his goal vs Brazil so Liv fan

      1. Mika-eel
        9 years, 1 month ago

        When I think of Owen it's always about "that" goal he scored against Argentina.

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Fair enough, I was only 4 then 😛

    2. KingNidge
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Grobbelaar was a nutjob lol

      1. Mika-eel
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed Nidge, but fun to watch as a kid. Maybe not so fan as a fan watching the game.

        1. Mika-eel
          9 years, 1 month ago

          *fun.

        2. KingNidge
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ah for sure.. pure entertainer and a fantastic goalkeeper in his day too

          1. Mika-eel
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Think Rene Higuita has to be the bigger nutjob of the 2.

            1. KingNidge
              9 years, 1 month ago

              He was off his rocker on grade A Columbian pure cocaine every time he took to the field i reckon

              1. Mika-eel
                9 years, 1 month ago

                All we have now is Rooney and his drunk driving making the news. Sad times.

    3. Assisting the assister
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs. Grandfather said they played the best football. Hoddle......nuff said. Remember them buying Ardiles and Villa. They were second division then - people forget that!

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Banging choons too 😉

        https://youtu.be/1KEMMfV5-Qg

        1. Mika-eel
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ha. Brilliant! The 80's, what a time it was.

    4. Ode
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal's style of play, and my uncle

      1. Ode
        9 years, 1 month ago

        And Henry

        1. Mika-eel
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Aahh, what a player. His goal against United against Barthez will always be a favourite of mine.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Where he chipped it up and sliced it into the top corner? Bit jammy. He scored plenty better!

            1. Mika-eel
              9 years, 1 month ago

              It's fair to say he scored alot special goals. Would love to watch a compilation of Henry and Le tissier goals.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Le Tissier scored some ridiculous goals. To think the ball was a lot heavier compared to what's used in the PL now.

                Shame he didn't like to run much 🙂

    5. Pariße
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Zidane somehow led me to Arsenal personally (I always knew he didn't play for them to be clear) 🙂

      1. Mika-eel
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Zidane was majestic. Had to end his career with a headbutt, but what a way to go,lol. Will never happen again.

    6. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Where I was born.

    7. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kevin Keegan and Ray Clemence ruled the field when I grew up, so had to be Liverpool

    8. bojack
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Any support their local team here and not Liverpool? 😆

    9. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hughes and Keegan in the 1977 European Cup Final. YNWA.

    10. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      My mates all supported the usual suspects, but in my class the main protagonists were Fulham and West Ham. I was five at the time and everyone kept saying I needed to choose a team, choose a team, blah blah blah.
      I got fed up of them constantly linking me with a certain team or other I just told them whoever won the FA Cup that year I would just go with them.
      They thought I was some kind of miracle worker when that year the Cup Final was Fulham v West Ham and fank feck West Ham won 😆

      1. Mika-eel
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Good thing it wasn't the 88 FA cup final. Apologies Wimbledon fans,lol.

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          9 years, 1 month ago

          😆
          Looking back at some of the Cup Finals from 1975 onwards, I'm kinda glad it was the Hammers! Could have been Southampton (1976), Man Utd (1977), Ipswich Town (1978) and well everyone knows the 1979 Final lol

  10. Rainer
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Captain Kane locked in. Sell at your peril! 😛

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sold. Gd luck.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Say hello to the fellow 2m OR rankers.

  11. JONALDINHO
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed
    Foster - (Elliot)
    Bertrand - Stephens - Suttner - (Ake) - (Long)
    Eriksen - Mkhitaryan - Willian - Carroll - (JWP)
    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino 1FT 0.5ITB
    A)Save
    B)Ake to Jones
    C)JWP to Brady
    Keep in mind price drops

  12. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best straight swap for KDB? Currently on Alli

    1. JONALDINHO
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on rest of your team. Alli/Eriksen,Mane/Salah, Hazard

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      9 years, 1 month ago

      As good as any. Alli/Eriksen/Mane/Salah all good.

      Utd mid if you want to spread the love with spending elsewhere

      1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Already got Kane and Firm up top so I guess it's a case of which team to double up on

    3. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes presuming you have a Liverpool mid or Firmino already

  13. CloudSky
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Now to beat England at Wembley. Shouldnt be that hard really.

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Seemed hard enough...
      England 2 Slovakia 1

  14. Hobolicious
    9 years, 1 month ago

    The Wembley-effect strikes again. Kane will only score away to "home" this season. Easy captain against Everton!

    Jokes aside. He was not great tonight, but still considering him as my captain.

    1. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Playing skrtel with hair probably confused him

  15. Business Cat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A nice reminder on that Halifax advert that Raheem Sterling runs in exactly the same way as Velma from Scooby-Doo 😆

  16. Sickboy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any playing strikers other than Abrahams for £5.5m or less?

    Cheers guys.

    1. CloudSky
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Joselu, Ayew, Okazaki at the moment. Calvert Levin was playing until gw3.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This

    2. Galza
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've got Joselu in my W/C team..
      I think he will be decent..

      1. Sickboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers for that

      2. AllanM
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Joselu stats are promising

  17. Ser Davos
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Please stop with this "England have only been poor since the inception of the Premier League".

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v_England_(1950_FIFA_World_Cup)

    1. Epic Fail
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who said this?

    2. Rogue Todd
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Millennials - gotta hate them

    3. Alexis Nonsense
      9 years, 1 month ago

      They were poor prior to that too...

    4. *sigh*
      9 years, 1 month ago

      With respect my original statement suggested England are unlikely to win a competition in the structure we have in the Premier League era.
      Put simply we are pishing in the wind.

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        ...don't say that. We could do a Greece 2004 one year 😉

        1. Rogue Todd
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Go bankrupt and leave the EU? Will happen very soon.

          1. Business Cat
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Well played 😎

  18. Mayo for Sam
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who's a better option long term for the next 5

    A Bavies
    B Bertrand

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      b

    2. The Orienteer - find me in …
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barring injuries, B all day long

  19. Alexis Nonsense
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster/Elliott

    Trippier - Alonso - Jones - Fernandez

    Mané - Alli - Mhki

    Chicharito - Firmino - Morata

    Bench: Mbemba, 4.5, 4.5

    4.1 ITB

    Anything worth a hit?

  20. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kane at -94.5

    1. Pieterke30
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Won't drop before Friday morning, if he drops at all

      1. Numb
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, doesn't look like he's dropping now. He will if he blanks the next game though

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He's been there for over a week...never tips into the price drop.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        They underestimated WC use.

    3. Alexis Nonsense
      9 years, 1 month ago

      a lot of WC too, so won't affect price

    4. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane might as well be price-locked

      1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Bye bye Kane......hello Firminio

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      They never let the expensive players in the game drop in price 😕

  21. migas2k7
    9 years, 1 month ago

    and kane blanks again.... and yes it is already september.

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He's not going to score every single game that's not in August?

    2. Pierce34
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He hasn't been great in past Septembers either.

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Seemed to me like he was saving himself for the weekend. He gave us a little taste of what’s to come in the match against Malta, but decided to stay quiet in tonight’s game, wanted to stay under the radar I think. Everton will have been watching this game, and they probably won’t even think to mark him at the weekend. He’ll explode.

  22. ratski
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster, Elliot
    Davies, jones, Cedric, naughton, mbemba,
    Eriksen, salah, pog, Carroll, mahrez
    Luk, morata, Abraham

    A. Abraham and mahrez (or other 8.7 mid)
    B, firminio and 5.8 mid?

    1. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. the snazzy viking
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B but have Alli instead of Eriksen so you can get the extra 0.1 to get Ritchie in

    3. AllanM
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

  23. Matt
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Would you rather have Cedric or Jones on the WC?

    1. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The one who hasn't let in a goal yet.

      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        True fact. But Southampton have kept two clean sheets out of three. Neither team has been challenged yet, I’d expect both teams to be a bit leakier in the next few weeks.

        1. Lawrø
          9 years, 1 month ago

          As opposed to those pesky false facts! 😀

          1. how now brown cow
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Facts and truth no longer hand in hand in this trump era.....

        2. how now brown cow
          9 years, 1 month ago

          True. The only reason I've had a half decent start is bailly-jones-stephens.

          Saints have had great fixtures and cedric more attacking, but would have more faith in Utd long term.

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jones

  24. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kane ripped me for some good money

    https://snag.gy/PCs31d.jpg

    1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got rid of Kane before double price drop.....

    2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sta pogodi alal ti vjera...jbg

      1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        9 years, 1 month ago

        a tuzno jbg

  25. Qaiss
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Alli getting a ban in the Premier league do we think?

    1. Epic Fail
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Why would he?

      1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        9 years, 1 month ago

        middle finger

      2. Numb
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If they deem it serious and he gets a general football ban?

      3. Rogue Todd
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He got his nob out and did the helicopter

    2. Differentiator
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lol! Desperate times call for desperate measures, eh Arsenal fan 😉

      *assuming you are

      1. Qaiss
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I have him in my team mate... That's why I'm asking 😉

    3. Rogue Todd
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Definitely - a room is getting readied in Broadmoor as we speak.

    4. how now brown cow
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No

    5. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Should have put some winding action on it:
      https://giphy.com/gifs/QGzPdYCcBbbZm

  26. Kalou
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Your all on a wc, but you can only choose one!
    A.Lukaku
    B.Kane

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane

    2. Qaiss
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. Pariße
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane. The stats are better, I'll have him after this GW (perhaps even after a drop in price).

    4. MTPockets
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Top of page 7

  27. Numb
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Could Alli potentially get a ban that affects FPL for his one fingered salute to the ref?

    1. Differentiator
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lol good luck proving it was at the ref.

    2. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've got him in my draft team and yes they could unfortunately

  28. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Jees!

    The Kane sellers have got all that money to spend now, I bet they get all my players.

    1. More Tragic
      9 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

  29. Pariße
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which 2 to get rid first?
    A) Willian (lei)
    B) Agüero (LIV)
    C) Kompany (LIV)

    1. Qaiss
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B and C

    2. More Tragic
      9 years, 1 month ago

      b + c

  30. FPL_Hazards
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Alli ban incoming

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He'll be banned from CL games and now international games, lol. Should be a lock in for FPL.