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17 September 2017 3652 comments
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Another big win for Manchester United flatters to deceive as Romelu Lukaku produces a double-figure haul that still may not be enough to halt sales of the Belgian.

Earlier in the day, Chelsea and Arsenal play out a goalless draw which saw David Luiz become the next Chelsea defender to see red to cause a headache for his sizeable ownership.

Here are the notes from Gameweek 5’s final fixtures.

Lukaku’s late show fails to halt sales

When Antonio Valencia crashed the ball into the Everton net four minutes into the match, a 4-0 result looked like the least Man United could expect from their day’s work.

By the end of an often lethargic showing, three late goals put a decidedly flattering gloss on the exact same outcome.

Romelu Lukaku was wasteful until the final flurry in which he scored once – his fifth goal in as many league matches this season – and set up the equally disappointing Henrikh Mkhitaryan for the midfielder’s first strike of the campaign.

Lukaku’s 12-point haul could and should have been doubled. He missed a big chance in the first half having been put through by Juan Mata, and then seemingly surrendered penalty duties to Anthony Martial for United’s fourth goal.

Indeed, post-match, Jose Mourinho provided some insight on that situation – indicating that Lukaku may well have relinquished duties from this point on.

“The penalty-taker today was Juan Mata, but he was out, so I let the players take the decision.”

That may compound matters for Lukaku, who, despite today’s 12-points, continues to see his ownership dwindle.

Over 51,000 managers have already sold him ahead of Gameweek 6 and, having been part of 60% of squads, he is now down to 55.6%, having suffered close to 108,000 sales going into Friday’s deadline.

That still means a majority of managers remain happy with the returns on his 11.7 price tag, though there is a feeling that the Belgian is closer to a barren run than a bonanza.

He led the way with four attempts today, but Jesse Lingard‘s 29-minute cameo produced more penalty area touches (6) than Lukaku’s five, with the substitute’s flick also setting up the forward’s goal.

United’s fixtures are on the cusp of stiffening. A Gameweek 6 trip to a defensively organised Southampton will be tough, although a visit from Crystal Palace a week later should prove rather more fruitful.

After the October international break, however, United will travel to Liverpool and Chelsea and entertain Spurs in what could be a treacherous four-Gameweek spell.

Sergio Aguero‘s 20-point burst at Watford, allied to a long run of good fixtures to come for Man City, has reminded us all that the Argentinian is Fantasy royalty.

More than 216,000 have now bought him since yesterday’s hat-trick, with Roberto Firmino (39000+) and Lukaku (37,000+) the main fall guys.

Mkhitaryan, who tops the FPL midfielder standings after his nine-points against the Toffees, remains a far more popular target than his team-mate, aided by the injury to Paul Pogba.

The Armenian is already the fifth most-bought player for Gameweek 6, with the majority (as happened ahead of Gameweek 5) swapping him in for Pogba.

And United assets at the back are still delivering good returns, with Phil Jones (5.1) unlucky not to sweep up bonus points – his baseline of 17 was easily the strongest in the Red Devils’ defence – with only Valencia’s goal scuppering the chances of extra points.

As for Everton, their horrifically tough start to the season is now at an end, and it’s come at a heavy price.

The side have been winless since a narrow Gameweek 1 victory over Stoke City, and they’ve lost three straight in the league, conceding ever more goals as they’ve gone.

Confidence is low, and their attack is toothless – only Swansea City have managed fewer attempts than the Toffees’ 42 (Spurs lead the way with 105).

At 4.3, right back/wing-back Cuco Martina could be a bargain now that Everton’s schedule takes a turn for the better (BOU, BUR, bri). We’ll learn more as to his starting credentials when coach Ronald Koeman decides on his line-up for Wednesday’s Carabao Cup tie against Sunderland.

No goals, but points to be had

Arsenal visiting Chelsea and leaving with a point from a goalless draw was one of the more surprising results of the weekend.

It was great news for the 10.9% of managers who tempted fate by sticking by Sead Kolasinac, the muscular Bosnian recording a second consecutive clean sheet to keep him top of the Gunners’ defensive standings with 23 points.

His added attacking threat just about justifies the hefty 6.0 outlay he demands, and if Arsenal can continue to show the resilience on display at Stamford Bridge, he looks the most attractive route into an often untrustworthy backline.

The match was not a classic – Danny Welbeck led the way for goal attempts with a meagre three – and it was another case of wait and see when it came to the sides’ two big-ticket men Alexis Sanchez and Eden Hazard.

Both had to make do with appearances from the bench and the 11.9 required to secure Sanchez’s services looks too high a price to be pay until he’s starting and scoring regularly, even with an immediate schedule – WBA BHA wat – that promises much.

Hazard, at 10.5, is rather kinder on the wallet, and Chelsea’s fixtures are even better, a Gameweek 7 visit from a rampant Man City notwithstanding.

But coach Antonio Conte has made it clear he will not be rushing the Belgian back into action too quickly, and neither should we if he continues to be given limited pitch-time.

That Man City match will have to be endured without David Luiz as the 24.0%-owned Brazilian was given a straight red towards the end of today’s encounter.

The centre-half, an ever-present at the heart of the defence this season, will now miss two Gameweeks, with Antonio Rudiger his most likely replacement.

Luiz at least left it until he’d earned his owners a clean sheet. The 21.2%-owned Marcos Alonso was also in the points, but he was way off the bonus points with a BPS score of just 20 – only Luiz recorded a lower score among the Blues’ backline.

His 68% pass completion rate had much to do with that and the Spaniard’s net ownership is currently in decline, even though the 30 points he’s racked up makes him the highest-scoring Chelsea defender.

It would seem, however, that FPL managers expect extra from Alonso – like his two-goal, 16-point show stopper against Spurs, for instance.

For a price of 7.1, they may have a point, but Alonso is still producing consistent returns, and only five defenders have scored more points than him thus far.

One big-name player not producing so regularly is Arsenal striker Alexandre Lacazette.

His 11.5% ownership base has paid 10.4 for 17 points to date, but after scoring against Bournemouth last time out, he was subbed off on 66 minutes at Chelsea having mustered just a single shot on target – a big chance he failed to convert.

The competition for places in our forward lines is intense. Twelve strikers have scored more points than Lacazette, while just three of them cost more than the Frenchman.

His days of double-digit ownership look numbered.

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  1. Postman Ty
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Want to do Kane --> Kun but there isn't really anywhere significant I can put the money. Mid-price mids are all terrible, so I would have to do Cedric --> Kolasinac (

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldn't be dropping Kane ahead of three amazing fixtures

      1. Postman Ty
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I don't want to either...but he's already had 4 blanks from 5 games and 3 amazing fixtures. How long are we supposed to hold before saying he's terrible value. Of course he could start banging in braces each week, but look what happened this week. It would mean getting an in-form Aguero with amazing fixtures which is debatably better anyways.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I've got both so I can't really empathize with you 😆 but between dropping Kane and Kun I'd still drop Kun first, Kun is a massive risk that I am content with taking but Kane is a great pick that I am willing to be patient with

          1. Postman Ty
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I tend to agree, which is why I have Kane and not Kun to begin with. But...points. ahhh this game.

    2. Begbie.
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I don't see the issue tbh, I think Cedric to Kola is a quality move. Wouldn't wanna lose Kane mind you.

  2. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Starting to consider the big hitter merry-go-round until wildcard.

    Kane to Aguero this week gives me Aguero+Jesus

    Then Jesus to Lukaku (c) in GW7 v Palace (h)

    Wildcard GW8 maybe....or just stick with Lukaku and Aguero.

    1. Begbie.
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Haha, could we potentially be looking at another tranfer nail biter in your next stream? 🙂

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Something goes wrong in your team, and suddenly it's a not-so-merry-go-round

      1. Postman Ty
        9 years, 1 month ago

        That's the problem with planning a fixture every week. You will always need more for injuries, form, suspensions etc. Not to mention there are just going to be other transfers we will want to make with defenders and mids over the coming weeks.

      2. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Always got that wildcard

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I threw mine away GW1 😆 fair play to you, I'm sure you've been tempted a few times already

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Not once to be honest.

            Strange season for me

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Seem a smart way to play the game to me. Best laid plans and all that ...

    4. Prison Mike
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds like good moves to me. Aguero(c) will punish a struggling palace.

      Also West Ham away is not an easy fixture like everybody is saying. They have failed to win the past two seasons away at West Ham, as Spurs is their cup final.

      1. _figu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He might. Or it could be Jesus/Sterling/Sane/younameit.

      2. Four Letter Wirtz
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'm not so sure about Palace away being push-overs. They can just sit back and not worry about the crowd (see vs Liverpool).

    5. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I completely agreed with your reasoning to take a hit last week. And liked those moves too (there was a case for Vardy as you have Salah, double when no Mane risky etc). This one, I don't get. You really want to risk going without Kane vs West Ham and Huddesfield? And use your FTs for that?

  3. Greenbackbøøg…
    9 years, 1 month ago

    GW5 and we still have no good cheap striker in FPL! Tune in next time to see whether a striker under 7.5 will actually be worth buying!

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Same with the midfielders too imo, Ritchie is bizarrely getting more points than his performances warrant.

      4 atb looks like better and better value week by week

    2. yLLacs
      9 years, 1 month ago

      *8.5 and thats vardy

      cant think of anyone below, if there is help me out i need to get rid of chicharito

    3. FantasyFootballMad
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney. Three good fixtures in a row coming up, Everton been unlucky and played well in 3 out of 5 games this season. He's on pens and head and shoulders above everyone else in the team. Good replacement for chicharito

      1. Greenbackbøøg…
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If Rooneys the best option, then we're in trouble

  4. Salah’s Sonnet
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I have a forward line of Lukaku, Firmino, Morata

    Even though things are going steadily, i really feellike just doing Kaku + Morata + Alonso > Aguero + Jesus + Kola for a -4

    Would anyone massively advise against this moment of madness? 🙂

    1. Postman Ty
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Why would you get rid of literally any of those players...

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Alonso isn't proving the worth, and Morata isn't a city player, desperately need city attack

        1. Postman Ty
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Chelsea are finally about to get good fixtures (mostly), Alonso will continue to score goals and the points will come. Having a City player is irrelevant. If Morata scores 1 goal in a 1-0 win and Jesus scores a goal in a 6-0 win, thy both get the same points. In fact, Morata likely gets more because Jesus is in the rotation wheel of chaos and keeps playing half games and losing out on bonus.

          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah had a think about it actually and i do agree. Ws even thinking of just simply doing Salah to silva, have firmino for the liverpool cover. i do really wanna keep alonso also.

            1. Postman Ty
              9 years, 1 month ago

              So many players I want right now, so little spaces, and so few transfers.

        2. Postman Ty
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Don't get me wrong, the three you want to bring in are all great, but they aren't guaranteed to do better than the three you're dropping.

    2. AnfieldLad
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have the same front line and planning Morata + Alonso -> Aguero + Kola for (-4pts). Looks good to me

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Those are pretty good moves there man, i could do morata and alonso to Aguero and pretty much any defender of choice 5.8 and under

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      9 years, 1 month ago

      in fact sack that, already wised up and seen how daft that is.

    4. Boetticher
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldn't make that move. I have the same players as you, and I'm considering Morata to Agu. But I would need some more restructuring that'd involve possibly two more transfers, so I don't think that's worth it.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        9 years, 1 month ago

        cheers man, yeah appreciate that, patience is needed i think here, i'd also have to lose a player if i wanted aguero, even jesus as well.

  5. GuillermoDickero
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed... thoughts on these

    Maguire, Suttner, Rodriguez

    To

    Kola, cedric / Naughton, Hemed

    Would like to keep Maguire but I'm 0.1 short of the moves otherwise

    1. Four Letter Wirtz
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hmm, I'm only keen on Kola out of the three. And once you're sitting on a 4.9 striker, it can be really tough place to get out of.

      1. GuillermoDickero
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Wildcard in 2 weeks

  6. Aussiemilan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Alonso + Firmino > Aguero + Mbemba? too much of a knee jerk reaction or pull the trigger?

    Without Alonso backline will be Jones/Cedric/Davies/Lowe/Mbemba

    Cheers

    1. Four Letter Wirtz
      9 years, 1 month ago

      How badly do you need Aguero? I mean, what's the rest of your forward line?

      1. Aussiemilan
        9 years, 1 month ago

        atm have

        Elliot
        Alonso/Jones/Cedric/Davies
        Hazard/Erikson/Coutinho/Brady
        Firmino/Kane

        Foster/Quaner/Chalobah/Lowe

  7. yLLacs
    9 years, 1 month ago

    would you swap Jesus to Aguero or is it not worth the ft?

    1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure, I guess Jesus can go loco next game. I'm only concerned about his minutes on the pitch, seems to be subbed early

      1. yLLacs
        9 years, 1 month ago

        i know but i could get the aguero price rises, i just dont trust pep either way

  8. Moose™
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bit late, Pogba to?

    A. Mkhi

    B. Eriksen

    C. Others

    1. Four Letter Wirtz
      9 years, 1 month ago

      C. Silva?

  9. Ange Ball
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Now can rest knowing I'm only 30pts behind taken minus 12 being the only one next week to have Aguero in my team.

    GW6

    Elliot
    Alonso Kolasinac Ward Davies
    Salah Silva Mkhitaryan
    Aguero Ayew Lukaku

    The games about having fun taking risks.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think you're in for a shock when you see the teams of your competitors in GW6

      1. Ange Ball
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not a chance they all have De Jesus and KDB mwahhhhhhhh

        1. fedolefan
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Lol, they can wildcard or use transfers.

      2. Ange Ball
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Unless your apart of my league then I'm F'd

  10. Kevtheotter
    9 years, 1 month ago

    One last time before I have to pull the trigger

    Unsure on what to do and would love some help!

    Foster Elliot
    Alonso Jones Naughton Cedric 4.0
    Ritchie Mhki Eriksen Brady Carroll
    Lukaku Firmino Kane

    2 FT 0.0 ITB

    A) Firmino + Alonso to Aguero + Mbemba
    B) Eriksen + Alonso to Mendy + KDB
    C) Eriksen to Silva
    D) Eriksen + Cedric --> Silva + Kola

    Cheers

    1. Ange Ball
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Slurpy
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Eriksen a season keeper for me

      1. Kevtheotter
        9 years, 1 month ago

        How to get city in?

        1. Slurpy
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Lukaku or Kane

    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hate telling someone to dump Alonso but your strikeforce looks mint with that move and the m/f aint too shoddy either.

      A

  11. 3 A
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pep shouldnt bench Kun if want to win the league. At least give Kun start until 70 minutes to do the damage.

    1. LǝgleSs e|even
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pep memang Pundek

      1. 3 A
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Jadah. Ada org malaysia kat sini. Ko siap jd member ek. Kongsi2 la bro data dlm ni. Aku nk jd member gak tp xbuat debit card yg leh transfer2 tu . Haha

  12. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I can keep Kane and Lukaku and get Kun if I sell Firmino and Alonso to 4.4 def that's not Newcastle(already 3)

  13. LǝgleSs e|even
    9 years, 1 month ago

    To citeh or not to citeh? No cover atm, have 3 spurs.

    A. Eriksen --> Silva (price rise tonight)
    B. Kane --> Kun
    C. Davies --> Otamendi (price rise tonight)
    D. Go to bed

  14. ★Kuntheman★
    9 years, 1 month ago

    0.1 short of Kolasinac instead of Bellerin...that's killing me 😆

    1. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Just do Monreal, use the money elsewhere, switch to Keane in GW11, and thank me later 🙂

  15. Batshuayi Crazy
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Willian + Danilo + Jones > D. Silva + Jones + Naughton worth a -8?

    No city cover and outside of tinkering with big hitters, 0.1 short of doing this for only a -4...

  16. DeadStarComing
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you rather have next week? Lukaku or Alli? One must go out to get Aguero.

    1. Test Eagles
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alli is completely off-colour at the moment, I'd rather have Lukaku and just sit on him for the long-term.

    2. Catenaccio FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep Lukaku.

  17. dark91
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What would be a priority to get in
    Kolasinac or Salah/Firmino?

    (2 ft, 0.4 itb)
    Eliott Foster
    Bavies Otamendi Fosu-Mensah Naughton Zanka
    D.Silva Mkhi Eriksen Mooy T.Caroll
    Lukaku Kane Chica

    Can do
    1) Fosu-Mensah + Mooy -> Kolasinac + Chalobah/4.5

    2) Fosu-Mensah + Chica + Lukaku
    --> Kolasinac + Vardy + Firmino

    Any suggestions?

    1. dark91
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2) would be for a -4

      1. Test Eagles
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Do it, you'll get those points back in no time!

  18. Test Eagles
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Are people overlooking a Spurs defender still? The whole Ben Davies incident has hurt a lot of people but with those fixtures coming up surely they'll return 3-4 CSs in the next 6 GWs? Alderweireld or Vertonghen the safer options, albeit slightly more expensive?

  19. Kane Train
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Should I WC?

    Foster
    Otamendi - Bailly - Davies
    Mhki - Carroll - Alli - Mooy
    Kane - Aguero - Firmino

    Bench: Elliot, Mbemba, Rangel, RLC

    into this

    Fabianski
    Otamendi - Jones - Naughton
    KDB - Mhki - Ritchie - Mahrez
    Kane - Aguero - Rooney

    Bench: Elliot, Mbemba, Mariappa, Carroll

    1. Ayew Holding Mee Cork
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No. But I would do Bailly -> Kola for free.

    2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Naaah

  20. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will Martina keep spot? 2 games played 7 goals conceded

  21. jpm
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is it worth a -4 for: Mahrez + Joselu -> Ramsey + Rooney?

    1. LǝgleSs e|even
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Seems sideways, save.

      1. jpm
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers! Thought about Mahrez -> Silva. Only have Jesus for cover.

  22. KadMan
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Take out Yoshida or Cedric?

    Cedric is more nailed on but Yoshida is getting them BAPS

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yoshida.

    2. Batshuayi Crazy
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yoshi

    3. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 1 month ago

      yosh..too many player for the spot

  23. Fantasy Football Friend!
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Lukaku > Kun for -4, then switch them back the following week for Lukaku Vs Palace?

    1. Catenaccio FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sure a lot of us are going to do that..Of course we all know that is going to end in tears.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Risky for a -4

    3. Ayew Holding Mee Cork
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Definitely not for -4. Lukaku will score imo. Then 1 week later it's Lukaku who will play Palace while Aguero has Chelsea.

    4. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 1 month ago

      noooo...wasteful

  24. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Only way I can keep Kane and Lukaku

    Firmino+Alonso > Kun+Martina

    1. Pierce34
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gamble. I'm guessing you have to play Martina?

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah and I have Manquillo Bavies and TAA

        1. Pierce34
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I wouldn't be comfortable with that defence to be honest, given all the rotation risks. But it's your call of course.

  25. Boetticher
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hi all,

    How nailed-on is Mbemba of Newcastle?

    Thanks!

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not very.

  26. MisterMaster
    9 years, 1 month ago

    rate my transfers

    lukaku+tadic+jese+chicharito
    to
    aguero+silva+ritchie+abraham

    (-8)

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not the best I've seen. Getting rid of Tadic, Chicarito is good, would've done that without taking a hit.

  27. Alonso The Great Midfielder
    9 years, 1 month ago

    alonso(stk,MCI) to

    a) kolasinac(WBA,BHA)
    b) city defence(CPL,che)

    Plan to wc gw 8 so can get che defence back since tough 2 game for chelsea

  28. Rik Waller
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which one?

    A) Kola/Erik/Morata
    B) Cedric/Salah/Kun (-4)

    1. Ghost Gooner
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. dark91
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 1 month ago

      i like b..

    4. Pierce34
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's very close for me, all 6 are quality players, Kolasinac more so than Cedric of course.

    5. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

  29. Tony Moon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Can anyone remember if Cuco Martina was injured for the first couple of games this season? I know Holgate played instead for those two games, but I'm just trying to work out if Martina is likely to be first choice RB or RWB until Coleman returns.

    Highly tempted at 4.3 for their good run of fixtures.

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Same

    2. GuillermoDickero
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think there's a risk for holgate to come in but I'm tempted for the next few tbh.

      Having said that, Everton look absolutely atrocious

  30. haydenRaces
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What do you lot think is worse the -4 point hit or losing 0.1 on a players price tag?

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Can't tell if serious or not

    2. Catenaccio FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Depends..Generally the -4 hit but if the 0.1 loss prevents you from not being able to have a player that is good on the long run then the later.