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30 October 2017 2788 comments
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The Gameweek finale falls on Turf Moor, for a Monday night encounter under the lights between Burnley and Newcastle United.

Fantasy interest is limited, in the main, to the defensive players on show. That’s a good thing scanning the statistics building up to this match.

Sean Dyche’s Clarets have scored the fewest home league goals this season, with just two efforts. But his defence have been typically miserly: only Liverpool and Manchester United have allowed fewer goals than the two conceded by Burnley.

Meanwhile, Newcastle arrive boasting just three away goals, only Everton and Crystal Palace have scored fewer.

Their goalkeeper, Rob Elliot, is the most owned player on show this evening. Now part of 26.4% of squads, the Magpies custodian trails only David De Gea (39.2%) in that respect. However, some 62% of Elliot’s 1.4 million owners keep him on the bench for Gameweek 10.

Stephen Ward has become the go-to option in the Burnley defence. The left-back is now owned by 14.7% of managers having already produced a goal and two assists this season, alongside three clean sheets.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Konstaapeli
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Play two:

    A) Moreno (whu)
    B) Mee (sou)
    C) Fernandez (BHA)

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    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      9 years, 10 days ago

      BC

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    2. La Roja
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Can I tell u who to bench instead? I just want to type as less as possible.

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      1. Konstaapeli
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Sure thing! Who should I bench?

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      2. jennmenn
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Is that why u typed 17 Words instead of two letters, and still havent given an answer?

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    3. Egyptian Giza
      9 years, 10 days ago

      bench moreno

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    4. Legomané
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      9 years, 10 days ago

      Bench Moreno

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    5. XabiAlonso
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Just play Moreno for home games

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  2. The Red Devil
    9 years, 10 days ago

    DDG
    Jones otamendi Maguire
    Sterling Silva richarlison Gross Kane Lukaku Vardy
    Bench - myhill Duffy tarroll mbemba
    1 FT 1.4 ITB
    A- Sterling to sane
    B- mbemba to mee
    C- save FT

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  3. ooooo
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Lukaku or Morata?

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    1. Going Home
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Do you currently have either? I have Morata and wouldn’t swap for Lukaku but if I had Lukaku I wouldn’t swap for Morata. So, basically, stick

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      1. ooooo
        9 years, 10 days ago

        I don't have either but need to get one in.

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Have both with Jesus... trying to decide on whether to swap Jesus for Kun or Kane

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    3. Legomané
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      9 years, 10 days ago

      Lukaku after this wk

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  4. KEN YA DIG IT
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Elliot,Fabs
    Daniels Cedric Luiz Simpson Ward
    Choupo,Salah,Silva,Carroll,Richarlison
    Kane,Jesus,Vardy
    1.5 ITB
    2FT
    What changes should i make?Was thinking of Choupo to gross,and hope that jesus starts on sunday so that i can have 2Fts after the IB

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  5. Sz21
    9 years, 10 days ago

    If you were happy enough with your team and still have WC intact..

    How/When would be decent option to play it we reckon?
    If I use it during the upcoming International break- probably looking at no more than 4/5 transfers for example at a push.

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    1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Honestly having the exact same dilemma. I love doing it in international breaks so there’s 2 weeks to tinker but not sure I need to now. Tough call

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    2. korbendallas82
      9 years, 10 days ago

      No problem to wait, if you are happy. Never now when your team needs a makeover. Injuries, form, etc.

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    3. Vlekz
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Exact same problem. I removed Kane last week because I could get him back on wildcard. But apart from def and Kane I don't have anything to change. Every good team has good fixtures

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      1. Vlekz
        9 years, 10 days ago

        So might hold with a -4

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    4. FPL Virgin
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      9 years, 10 days ago

      Going into GW13.

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  6. Egyptian Giza
    9 years, 10 days ago

    see your girl in the park, that girl is uckers? oy ta asnee

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    1. Delhidynamo
      9 years, 10 days ago

      who's got a frisbee?

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    2. Your Mum Zohore
      9 years, 10 days ago

      The ting goes..

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  7. HurriKane
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Do you think Aguero is immune to rotation ?

    He started all but one game piror to his injury. (Unlike sterling sane jesus who were constantly rotated)

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    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      9 years, 10 days ago

      He was rotated last GW...

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      1. HurriKane
        9 years, 10 days ago

        yh we all knew it he wont play 3 times in a week coming back from rib injury

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Nope, think all city forwards will be rotated all year. If one of Jesus/Kun gets injured the other will be quite close to nailed though. Likewise Sané/Sterling

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    3. The Man Pastore
      9 years, 10 days ago

      surely not immune...

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    4. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      city play twice a week till January, of course he won't be immune

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  8. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Just had a look at my ML leaders team and his leagues, turns out he's in the fantasy football scout league, show your self fella!

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    1. The Man Pastore
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Ok... you got me

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      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Not with that rank fella

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        1. The Man Pastore
          9 years, 10 days ago

          lol

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          1. THFC4LIFE
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            9 years, 10 days ago

            Haha

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  9. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Had always planned to WC over the international break but after a strong week I’m not so sure. 1FT 0.1 ITB. To WC or not to WC?

    De Gea Elliot

    Kolasinac Cedric Mee Naughton Mariappa

    Sterling Salah Richie Carrol RLC

    Jesus Kane Lukaku

    What to do?!

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    1. Lazaretti
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Maybe you can postpone your WC one week after IB. You would need to upgrade your midfield. One budget forward will do it but I don't know is that the best way to go.

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      1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Yeah it’s tough. I like having 3 heavy hitters up top so something has to give somewhere.

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        1. Lazaretti
          9 years, 10 days ago

          I am going to WC prob in IB. I have Davies, Foster, Yoshida, and DCL which needs to go for sure. I think you could save you FT if you are no going to WC and then get rid of Cedric. Other option is to WC, difficult...

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    2. Evs
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      9 years, 10 days ago

      I knows this is commons sense but... don’t wildcard unless you really need to

      Keeping it to get you out of trouble or to use as a luxury (tactically) before Xmas is a priceless commodity

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  10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Hope José rests Jones, Bailly, DDG tonight... would signal his intent to Hodor vs. Chelsea.

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  11. Bazzy
    9 years, 10 days ago

    About to play my wildcard, how do you think this team looks:

    De Gea, Martinez
    Tripper, David Luiz, Ward, Hunemeier, Rangel
    Sane, David Silva, Hazard, Romeu, Matic
    Jesus, Morata, Chicharito

    I have enough $ for a swap of Jesus for Aguero. I'm really unsure of which one to pick at this stage, so any advice on that would be fantastic.

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    1. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
      9 years, 10 days ago

      There’s definitely better options the Romeu and matic and trippier is a rotation risk with Aurier. Solid start though. As for aguero or Jesus it’s a case of flip a coin and stick with one. I’ve got Jesus but would probably pick aguero if I was getting one in

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      9 years, 10 days ago

      In attack I would do Hazard/Chicharito > Kaku & Groß..

      In defence would do Trippier, Hunmeir, Rangel > Naughton, Dunk, Dann/Daniels

      Then also try to get Matic/Romeu > RLC & Atsu/Fellaini/Doucouré

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    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 10 days ago

      people to move on:
      trippier (rotation risk)
      Hune and rangel (need one or both to be starting defenders with other rotation risk payers you have)
      Romeu and matic (may as well play RLC and Carrol for the same returns and cheaper)

      with the forwards everyone will have their own opinion, personally I think as soon as Kane is fit you will need him in your WC team

      maybe save your WC till IB and more info, or have you pressed the button?

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      1. Bazzy
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Haven't pressed the button just yet. Having a play around with some of the players you guys have suggested. My team is not so good at the moment. I have 3 injured players and some out of form. I do have 2 FT however, so you may be right for me to wait till IB.

        My team at the minute is:

        De Gea, Martinez
        Alderweireld, Azpilicueta, Otamendi, Zabaleta, Rangel,
        De Bruyne, Matic, Romeu, Pogba (don't ask), McArthur
        Aguero, Chicharito, Morata

        Bench is a mess.

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  12. Francescoli
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Thank you Pope for Warding off those red arrows. Owe you big time Jeebus.

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    1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Ben Mee says hi.

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  13. Jon Bones Jones
    9 years, 10 days ago

    What is your opinion on 2 players in defense from same team? I think is ok to have DDG and Jones but would you have two players from Burnley or Swansea? I Ryan when I could buy Pope because I have Ward, and now I am not so sure that was good move

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    1. J T
      9 years, 10 days ago

      My mate has triple Utd and it's come off a treat. I have double swans and it hasn't worked so well 😀
      You get what you pay for in most aspects of defence

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    2. Midlands Saint73
      9 years, 10 days ago

      DDG is season keeper erm keeper. I generally wouldn't double up elsewhere.

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    3. FantaCity
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Read Ludo's Hot Topic

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  14. HurriKane
    9 years, 10 days ago

    From gw12-17 who do you prefer?

    A) Gross- STO mu CPL LIV hud TOT

    B) Zaha- EVE STO bha wba BOU WAT

    Im leaning towards Zaha due to excellent fixtures. Zaha in good form too with 2 goals in 3 matches.

    Nothing against Gross. he will keep on ticking in easy fixtures but has 3 tough ones in that period

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    1. Squashed
      9 years, 10 days ago

      yea i think i would get zaha with that set of fixtures.

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    2. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 10 days ago

      zaha due to form, more explosive

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  15. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 10 days ago

    planned team for next week (assuming Kane fit)

    Elliot
    Stones, Jones, Davies, ward
    Richarlison, silva, salah
    kun (vc), kane (c), vardy

    Pope// Carrol, RLC, mbemba

    1ft 1.5 itb

    thinking of moving mbemba to daniels and downgrade Davies over IB, keeping kane regardless of injury news. gives me 3 playing subs

    what other FT would you do, or save?

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  16. Emiliano Sala
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Elliot
    Alonso walker kolasinac jones moreno
    Salah silva RLC 4.4 4.4
    Kane kun rooney
    1.2 itb
    1 ft

    Which one is best way of getting rid of rooney?
    A) rooney to abraham
    B)rooney to DCL
    C) alonso to daniels this week and rooney to morata next week
    *bournemouth has really nice run of fixtures
    Your suggestion??

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    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Not C, your midfield is too light for 4-3-3 imo. I would do A and upgrade one of your 4.4s to a decent playing player

      but I think a future move is definitely to downgrade alonso

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      1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
        9 years, 10 days ago

        maybe he play 5-2-3

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      2. Emiliano Sala
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Thanks. But why not C ? Just for weak 3rd midfield? I play 523

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    2. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 10 days ago

      c maybe....satisfied with midfield??

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      1. Emiliano Sala
        9 years, 10 days ago

        I play 5 at the back. Thanks

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    3. Squashed
      9 years, 10 days ago

      way too much on the def.

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  17. Fantasy Gold
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Brady and Laca > Salah and Firmino for -4.

    How's it look?

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    1. Davido989
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Yeah looks alright. Laca is pretty useless atm so I'm hoping Kane is fit.

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      1. Fantasy Gold
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Yeah if Kane is fit, it'll be Laca > Kane instead

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    2. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      very good mainly because Brady and Laca suck

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      1. Fantasy Gold
        9 years, 10 days ago

        True dat 😆

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  18. The Man Pastore
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Should I save FT this GW?

    Elliot
    Otamendi / Azpi / Mee
    Salah / Sane / Gross / Richarlison
    Aguero(C) / Morata / Lacazette

    Pope Dunk Romeu Rangel

    1FT / 0.0ITB

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    1. Evs
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      9 years, 10 days ago

      It’s a tough week for as lots of the top teams play each other

      If Kane doesn’t make it, I would save

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  19. frenchfries
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Wow this week was awesome 🙂
    384 346 --> 84 970 OR
    GR 23 961
    And this even with Aguero and Kane on the team. Glad i didnt use my FH

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    1. makaveli123
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Well done

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  20. Alonso The Great Midfielder
    9 years, 10 days ago

    is fabregas a great punt? watch last two chelsea games and he likely going foward...could have score in last two games though

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    1. Squashed
      9 years, 10 days ago

      yes

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      1. Your Mum Zohore
        9 years, 10 days ago

        He's a real punt alright!

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    2. J T
      9 years, 10 days ago

      I wouldn't. He hasn't done much this year and with Kante & Drinkwater back he will get less minutes

      -Chelsea fan

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  21. Egyptian Giza
    9 years, 10 days ago

    remember when everyone was on the "Lacazette is essential" wtf happened?
    man cant even get 70 min and only scores tap ins

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      don't remember it coz it never happened

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    2. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      9 years, 10 days ago

      its all about hype and form

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    3. Davido989
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Random Name was the one constantly saying he's essential.

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    4. Arteta
      9 years, 10 days ago

      It was only Random Name user who was hyping him up. And he doesn't score tap ins. Have you seen his goals?

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  22. Evs
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    9 years, 10 days ago

    Anyone a bit ‘meh’ on Morata ?

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      very, body language is awful, much prefer Hazard

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    2. XabiAlonso
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Ye prefer haz

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    3. frenchfries
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Hazard looks alot better and only 0.3m between them

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    4. TheTinman
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Haz is dynamite so I'll probably try and bring him in

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  23. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Hi all, planning to WC in either gw12 or gw13 depending on Kane injury and once the Chelsea pool match is done. But thoughts on the transfer this week? 0.7m itb

    Forster -- Elliot
    Wimmer Bertrand Valencia -- kolasinac mee
    Sterling salah Sanchez Ritchie -- carroll
    Jesus joselu firmino

    A: Sanchez >> Alli (c)
    B: kolasinac >> alderweld and bench Valencia
    C: something else?

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      joselu to Abraham? I'd keep the arsenal lads

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  24. FPL ZB
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    9 years, 10 days ago

    Hi gents,

    Any reason for the large BAP advantage of CBs? Whenever there's a clean sheet, it is always the Jones/Koscielny/Yoshidas that get the BAPs over the Wards/Alonsos/Trippiers (provided they don't assist or score)

    Is this since they're more likely to make tackles/interceptions?

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    1. TheTinman
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Wondering too. I sometimes wonder if throwing a cross in which gets defended is bad for baps

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    2. FantaCity
      9 years, 10 days ago

      I guess the algorithms favour them to balance the fact that wing backs are more likely to get attacking returns, otherwise everybody would ignore the CBs ? It is a fairly recent thing

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    3. Davido989
      9 years, 10 days ago

      CBI and dispossessions probably.

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    4. Arteta
      9 years, 10 days ago

      https://www.premierleague.com/news/106533

      This pretty much explains it how they are rewarded

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  25. trinzoo
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Play 1:

    A) Moreno (whu)
    B) Otamendi (ARS)
    C) Jones (che)

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Jones, mourinho could get a clean sheet in a brothel

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      1. Davido989
        9 years, 10 days ago

        That's cos no woman would go near him.

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        1. Big P
          9 years, 10 days ago

          🙂

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      2. TV Hunter
        9 years, 10 days ago

        last year 4-0 chelsea win. Not sure to play jones

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    2. XabiAlonso
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Jones

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      1. trinzoo
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Thanks!

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  26. irsyadFC
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Jesus to Vardy for free?

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    1. irsyadFC
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Yes/no?

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    2. TheTinman
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Yeah why not

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    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Need to know who other strikers are.

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      1. irsyadFC
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Aguero Kane

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        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 10 days ago

          Good move then.

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          1. irsyadFC
            9 years, 10 days ago

            aight cheers

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  27. CaptainKeita
    9 years, 10 days ago

    I have a defender selection dilemma this GW. Need to play three.

    1. Otamendi (ARS)
    2. Jones (che)
    3. Moreno (whu)
    4. Naughton (BHA)
    5. Lowe (WBA)

    So which three?

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  28. Live Lad
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Who would be your captain if you have Kane and he is injured?
    No standout option I guess.

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    1. Arteta
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Maybe Salah again

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      1. Live Lad
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Think I'll do the same.

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    2. J T
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Sane or Hazard

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    3. Bojaninho
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Might take a punt or Firminio

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    4. XabiAlonso
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Alli

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      1. Live Lad
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Great shout, especially if Kane is out.

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    5. Pep says
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Went Hazard last week. Either him or Salah for me.

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      1. Live Lad
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Well done!

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        1. Pep says
          9 years, 10 days ago

          Cheers. Didn't fancy Salah although the penalty miss was u lucky. Thought about Richarlison but then realised it wasn't worth the risk when I had Hazard facing Bournemouth, seemed like the safest bet

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          1. Live Lad
            9 years, 10 days ago

            Went Salah myself. That penalty miss was a 20-point swing perhaps.

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  29. fridge
    9 years, 10 days ago

    Is there a general consensus on the best time to wildcard?

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      before January

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      1. fridge
        9 years, 10 days ago

        I think we have found the joker in the pack

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        1. fridge
          9 years, 10 days ago

          Im thinking GW 12 looks the best though?

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    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Late December.

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    3. CABAYE4
      9 years, 10 days ago

      No idea on consensus but I’m planning on GW12.

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    4. Pep says
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Whenever you feel you team needs it. There's no 'this is the time everyone should wildcard' gameweek. If you think your team could be improved significantly then hit the button

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      1. Bojaninho
        9 years, 10 days ago

        This, you make the decision when you think it will give you the best advantage.

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  30. Bojaninho
    9 years, 10 days ago

    need an Alonso replacement?

    Any ideas welcome, already have a Jones, Hegazi, Simpson, Mbemba..

    Spurs CB perhaps or maybe even burnley to free up cash, Spurs full backs rotation risks?

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    1. The Son Haz got Atsu on
      9 years, 10 days ago

      why not keep? Chel fixtures turn very soon and he could easily get a cleanie v united

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      1. Bojaninho
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Hes not been value for money to be honest.There are cheaper ways into clean sheets which is a defenders bread and butter

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    2. trinzoo
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Vertonghen.

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    3. Pep says
      9 years, 10 days ago

      Spurs full back, Burnley or Brighton defender also a good bet. I'd get rid of Hegazi too as soon you have a chance and upgrade Mbemba before the fixtures start piling up

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      1. Bojaninho
        9 years, 10 days ago

        Agreed, Mbemba more pressing then Hegazi as WB are always good for a cleanie.

        Spurs full back, not sure anyone is completely Nailed on with champs league etc

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        1. Pep says
          9 years, 10 days ago

          Vertongen or Toby surely are. I prefer Vertongen. Not sure why... Good for 6 pts but probably not much more than that. It's not the most exciting but it should be a steady stream of points. Real shame about the wing backs...

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