Moving Target

Ings’ potential as a budget FPL forward evident in Saints’ debut

With the summer transfer window closing just over 24 hours before the start of the 2018/19 Premier League campaign, the frenetic pre-season preparations left us little time to assess any of the moves in closer detail.

Amid all the big-money transfers, our first Moving Target piece scrutinises a player who didn’t cost a penny – at least not yet.

Danny Ings‘ (£5.5m) loan move to Southampton from Liverpool was one of the last transfers to be completed on Thursday and not announced until three-and-a-half hours after the deadline had passed.

Though Ings’ move to his boyhood club is in name a temporary one, the Saints have an obligation to buy the 26-year-old striker at the end of this season for a reported £18m.

Ings made his Southampton debut on Sunday afternoon in the 0-0 draw with Burnley, coming on as a 56th-minute substitute for the injured Stuart Armstrong and impressing alongside first Charlie Austin (£6.0m) and then Manolo Gabbiadini (£6.0m).

Speaking after the match, Ings said:

At the moment, I’m getting used to the way the team play – I wanted to come on and get a feel for the football they play. We play good football here and there are some really, really good players. It’s a pleasure to work with them.

There were a lot of spaces coming deep, so I drifted into those pockets, got on the ball and tried to play people in. I want to show people it’s not all about running in behind for me – I can come short and play too.

I’ve had two or three years of terrible luck and frustration really, so to come here, be free and play my football – I couldn’t be happier, or have a better club for me right now in my career.

Manager Mark Hughes was quick to dismiss worries about Ings’ fitness issues, which contributed to him only playing 14 league fixtures in three seasons at Liverpool:

He’s proved his fitness, it’s not as if we have to get him rehabbed, he’s a fit young man – he’s had the injury in his younger years. So, you always get a better response and outcome when that happens. We don’t have any worries about his injury.

He ended strongly at the end of last season. He’s fit, he’s well, and he’s ready to go. He’s at a point in his career where he wants to start making an impression again. He came back strongly for Liverpool at the end of last year and showed his worth to them. You’ll note Jurgen’s comments about him, as a character and as a guy. That was an important factor in being able to bring him here as well because we want to enhance the dressing room and the personnel, so that’s an added bonus for us.

The History

Born in Winchester in July 1992, Ings actually spent time with the Saints’ youth set-up before joining the academy at Bournemouth, then in League Two.

Making his debut as a 17-year-old in the Football League Trophy match against Northampton Town in October 2009, Ings spent two months on loan at non-league Dorchester Town before Eddie Howe handed the teenage striker his first league start in the 2-0 defeat to MK Dons in November 2010.

Ings went on to score seven league goals in 26 League One appearances for the Cherries in 2010/11, also grabbing a goal in the south coast club’s unsuccessful play-off campaign.

Ings made just a single start for Bournemouth in the 2011/12 campaign before Howe, who had jumped ship months earlier, snapped up Ings for his new club Burnley in the summer 2011 transfer window.

The young forward had to wait several months for his league bow, only featuring on 15 occasions for the Clarets in his first season in the Championship.

Howe returned to Bournemouth not long after the start of the 2012/13 season, a campaign in which Ings scored just three league goals in 32 Championship appearances – though only 15 were starts.

The 2013/14 season could be considered Ings’ breakthrough year, with his 21 league strikes and seven assists helping Burnley to promotion to the Premier League for the second time.

Ings took the step up to the English top flight in his stride, scoring on 11 occasions and setting up a further four goals despite Burnley’s relegation back to the Football League.

Joining Liverpool in the summer of 2015, Ings was to feature in just five Premier League matches for the Reds – scoring two goals – before a knee ligament injury effectively cut short his season.

Returning to action on the final day of the 2015/16 season, Ings was to damage his other knee in October 2016, ruling him out for the rest of that campaign too without the striker having kicked a ball in the Premier League.

Though returning to fitness in time for the season just gone, Ings was to be a peripheral figure as Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino and Sadio Mane tore up the league: Ings did, however, register his first league goal in three years with a strike in the 2-2 draw with West Bromwich Albion in April of this year.

Ings left Anfield after just 14 league appearances and three Premier League goals.

The Prospects

Ings’ promising debut in the draw at St. Mary’s on Sunday hinted at possibly greater things to come – providing the injury-plagued striker can stay fit, of course.

There is a real dearth of exciting budget forward options in FPL this season, with Raul Jimenez and Bobby Reid (both £5.5m) about as good as it gets in the sub-£6.0m bracket.

Priced at £5.5m himself, Ings’ move to Southampton could be a game-changer if he can recapture some of the form that saw him hit 11 league goals in his final season at Burnley.

Ings managed more in 34 minutes of his Saints bow than Charlie Austin did in more than twice that time, registering three attempts on goal and four penalty box touches. Ings also created twice as many chances (four) as any other Premier League forward at the weekend, one of which almost led to an assist as Jack Stephens forced Joe Hart into a near-post save.

The spark that Ings provided upon his introduction surely stands him in good stead ahead of the trip to Everton, with Austin and Gabbiadini offering little in the 0-0 stalemate with Burnley.

Although Southampton started with just one forward – Austin – on Sunday, Hughes frequently rolled out a two-man attack in pre-season and switched to a 4-4-2 upon Ings’ introduction at the weekend.

A two-pronged frontline would, of course, increase Ings’ chances of a start, but on current form the former Liverpool man may even lead the line himself.

That Ings often dropped deep to link up play in that draw with the Clarets suggests he would be more comfortable playing alongside another striker, however, so it remains to be seen how Hughes will adjust his tactics to accommodate his loan signing.

Ings’ ability to create as well as score adds to his appeal. In the 2014/15 season with Burnley, Ings carved out six big chances for the Clarets: just four other forwards could better that tally.

Only five forwards had more attempts on goal than Ings (97) in that season, with the striker registering a shot on goal every 34 minutes.

It should be said that all of this was accomplished playing in a relegated Burnley side who scored a league-low 28 goals as they slipped back into the Championship.

With a trip to Crystal Palace sandwiching home fixtures against Leicester and Brighton after this weekend, Ings could be a handy, budget-freeing differential: the ex-Burnley striker is currently only owned by 2.0% of FPL managers.

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  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    If Alexis wanted to score a brace this weekend I wouldn’t hold it against him

    1. built_this_city
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      he was so bad in the first game though

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        He was, the little rascal. My plan was always him as a KDB placeholder, & thought he would be OOP up front and on pens against a weakened Leicester without Vardy or Maguire... didn’t quite workout but KDB’s injury has now bought him a stay of execution.

      2. PrettyDick
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        The thing with Alexis though is he can have terrible games and still score, because he never ever stops trying. A bit like Suarez in that way. So it's always a scare (for opponents and us who don't have him in FPL), however for that price it's too much of a gamble for me and I don't see it paying off in the long run.

        Still, I would never be surprised if he scores a couple or even a hat trick at any given time.

    2. @fpl_phenom
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      think he might get the next penalty

      1. KINGVIZO
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Hopefully - could do with those points Pogba took off him!!

  2. Zimo
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Vardy, Ruben Neves, and Ashley Young
    or
    Hazard, Danny Ings, Wan-Bissaka?
    From gameweek 3.

    1. PrettyDick
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      10 times out of 10 option B for me.

      I think each one of those three will outscore each one of the three above, with reservation for Vardy/Hazard, we'll have to see how far up the field Hazard will play under Sarri and how much space other's will create for him

      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Alright. Hazard it is.

  3. Red Star Toro
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Would you pull a trigger on Sigurdsson -> Bernardo before the price change for -4?

    1. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yes.

      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        You'd have to change your team to accommodate him later.

        1. Red Star Toro
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Well I just wonder if he’ll end up starting next few games...

          1. Teror
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            M8. Bernardo is NAILED. DSilva is being fazed out and KdB is injured. He's going NOWHERE

            1. Zimo
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              Exactly

    2. TaiwanHC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      No, I would never use a transfer for that. Too sideways atm.

  4. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    With Salahs ownership i cant look past him for captaincy. There isnt anyone in my ML who doesnt own him, Aguero is a slight risk, but surely the risk isnt worth taking so early on in the season? If Salah hauls and you dont captain him, you'll be fuming monday night.

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      the risk is the same regardless of when in the season IMO...

      I'm going Mendy (C)

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I think if you have both, the risky move is skippering Salah and not Aguero.

    3. Jules Rimet
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      whatever helps you sleep

      t. kun captainer

    4. GoonerByron
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Hate this line of thought.. Everyone owns Salah so I HAVE to captain him. Doesn't make for a fun game.

      This is why I don't own Salah and will be happily captaining the obvious pick Aguero this GW 🙂

    5. MaxiRobriguez
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      The risk might be worth taking if it's Huddersfield at home instead of Palace away. If you don't captain Aguero at home vs Huddersfield when will you captain him? Not an issue, just realisation if you go with Salah that with consistent logic Salah is always going to be your captain for the rest of the season.

    6. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      His EO is still below 100%, live a little!

    7. PrettyDick
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I disagree (however I've noticed that most people in the FPL community choose other wise), I think you have to chose whatever's more likely to happen. Sure, you'll be upset when you miss a Salah brace however you'll be very happy if he doesn't get one and Aguero scores a hattrick. I think over the course of a season you'll end up with more points if you play to your own players and their likelihood of getting points, than to what your opponents are choosing.

      And if we can get an indication on whether Aguero will start or not it is FAR more likely that he'll get more points at home to Hudds than Salah away to Palace (who are on great form and have kept building on last years great season finish)

      If Aguero won't get it it'll be some other City player. And this is from a liverpool fan 🙂

      Good luck!

  5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Listening to scoutcast... when Neil came on I thought for a second they had recruited Ser Davos of House Seaworth, brilliant 🙂

  6. JUSTICE FOR HARAMBE
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    De bruyne+Stephens to b.silva and richarlison?

    1. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    2. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      omg yes

    3. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

  7. Teror
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    King + Cook > Jiminez + 5.5 def (-4) ?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Not yet

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I mean, I'd wait this week as bou still have goid fixtures and re evaluate with 2fts next week

        1. Teror
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Yes I think this is the wise option.

  8. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Sanchez + hudson-odoi > bilva + richarlison/maddison (-4)?

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Not yet

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Just kidding. Yes, do it.

    2. TaiwanHC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      No, I think Sanchez could explode.

  9. Jules Rimet
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Kepa
    Mendy Robo PvA
    Salah Mané Eriksen Bilva Richarlison
    Auba Aguero

    G2G?

    1. Mini Mane Mo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Can’t get any better

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      That's well over budget

    3. Mini Mane Mo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      This team probably costs more than $100m with its subs?

      1. MaxiRobriguez
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        That's £92m on the 11, before price rises.

        Which means the minimum TV of the squad would be £109m.

        1. Son is Rising
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          Where has RENT_BOY got the extra money from?

          1. Jules Rimet
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            magic 🙂

  10. Teror
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Play Foster or Fabianski?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Foster

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        any reason ?

        fancy cherries attack or think West Ham are atrocious ?

    2. Podorsky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      West Ham more attacking than Burnley

  11. JUSTICE FOR HARAMBE
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Foster
    Mendy lindelof Robertson
    Kdb mahrez salah cairney
    Zaha king auba
    Subs Patricio peltier wan bissaka Stephens
    A)kdb+king →sterling+jimenez
    B)kdb+stephens→b Silva +richarlison

    1. TaiwanHC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      B

  12. PrettyDick
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    City fans! And other's with some sort of clue on Pep's selection (I know, not even Pep has a clue on Pep's selections but let's play pretend)

    I am on my wildcard (yeah, I know I know...) and am not 100% sure which three city players to choose.

    What are your thoughts on how City will play without KDB, and what are your basing that on?

    Mainly, how (if in ANY way), will that affect Augero's game time? Do you think Pep will play Aguero and Jesus together? He has spoken about using 3-5-2 more this season and did put Jesus on vs Arsenal without taking Kun out.

    However last year he played them every other game when they both were fit.

    Although, he played Kun at home and Jesus away...

    IF I somehow were sure of Kun playing I would never take him out. Otherwise I think it's too much money to have for maybe 10 minutes of game time every other week, or even once every three weeks.

    So many questions, are there any answers?

    A discussion on this would be greatly appreciated,
    Cheers

    1. MaxiRobriguez
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Don't think the KDB news changes a lot. Aguero and Jesus still rotation risks, as are Sane and Mahrez. Sterling is probably safest route in, Bilva's minutes are likely more secure now too, but not guaranteed.

      The only possible big changes due to the KDB injury is a possible shift to a 3-5-2 (which would be the end of Sane and severely curtail Mahrez minutes, but would make both Mendy and Walker more advanced and guaranteed starters, and make them both the best City assets) and the possible increase of Foden minutes.

    2. thericeking
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      if i were on a wc i would look to play 4-4-2... and with city i would want Mendy for obvious reasons... Bilva because he is value value value... and sterling because he is same price as aguero but gets more points per contribution (g or a).. and i think he;s a differential at the moment which is strange

      1. jumpinjoe90
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Prettydick I’m in the same boat
        Have been forced into an early wild card after bringing KDB in for a hit earlier in the week...

        Between sterling BSilva and soares or sterling Walker and stones

        Think sterling could be played up front after watching Aguero last week... Jesus not up to much either

        Could also go BSilva, Alli and Walker but i really like sterling at the mo... any thoughts lads?

  13. socho
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Hi guys,

    I have a crazy dilemma

    1) Lloris/Mahrez
    2) Ederson/Eriksen

    The main reason is that I do not manage to assess well the potential of Mahrez in that City team.

    I own Sterling.

    I see Eriksen as someone who can explode this year. But so could Mahrez.

    Anyway, help please.

    1. Bleach †
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Rather B imo.

  14. Jules Rimet
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    For GW 3 who would you rather play:

    A. Bavies away to Man Utd
    B. Milivojevic away to Watford

  15. @fpl_phenom
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Play fabianski or Foster ?

    would you play King or Peltier ?

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Fab

      I hope your second question is a joke. If it’s not, you’ve lost your head.

      1. Podorsky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Play Fraser or Zaha, have Wilson?

      2. @fpl_phenom
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        you for real? cardiff at home are good for a CS

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          You’ve lost your head ! 😆

  16. Son is Rising
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Presume everyone would expect Salah(cry) to outscore Bilva (HUD)?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      i dont

  17. @fpl_phenom
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Coula I get a quick poll done guys?

    A: Peltier (H) v Newcastle

    or

    B: King (A) v West Ham

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      B - the one who isn't 4m in a joke team

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        what has 4 million got to do with it?

    2. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      B.

      It's a choice between a player who might score and a player who might, if you're lucky, get 2 points.

    3. Wheato182
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I can't believe you are struggling with this decision tbh, clearly you go with the striker in 99.9% of scenarios. West Ham looked a shambles at the back with Pells high line, expect them to ship a few more before improving.

  18. FirminoIsBetterThanYou
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Unless necessary I'm reluctant to do a Gameweek 1 transfer, but thoughts on Mahrez to B.Silva due to the KDB news or hold this week and assess next week?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      hold

  19. TaiwanHC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Where can I find yesterday’s scout cast?

  20. Wheato182
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Tempted by this next week for a hit...

    King + Mhki + Aguero > Ings + Mahrez + Aub

    That seem good?

    1. Van Djik-Head
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah could work, I'm thinking about King to Ings also, will be keeping a keen eye on him

  21. Rich89Cook
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Def: Tark, Lindelof, Rudiger, Chambers, Peltier

    Had planned on a 3 of Trak, Lindelof and Rudiger but:

    1) Chelsea v Arsenal isn't ideal for Rudiger
    2) Tark affected by Europa?

    Is it worth a transfer or stick?

  22. CrouchDown
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    King > Ings anyone?

  23. Eddie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    This will likely change as soon as Aguero or any other striker hauls, but at the moment I just want more midfield slots, five doesn't seem enough.

  24. Silecro
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Who would be best forward option up to 6.0? looking to downgrade King so i can do jota > mkhi as of next week

  25. Hermanos FC
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Hart
    Robertson Mendy Shaw
    Salah Mane Jota Bilva
    Aguero Zaha King

    Patricio WB Peltier Cairney
    Should I save FT? Or use it?
    And should I play Peltier and remove Zaha?

    1. Hermanos FC
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      By removing I mean... should I play Peltier in place of Zaha?