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After a barnstorming match between Cardiff City and Arsenal on Sunday lunchtime, the two 16:00 BST kick-offs at Vicarage Road and Turf Moor bring Gameweek 4 to an end.

Tottenham Hotspur have made three changes to the side that beat Manchester United last Monday, with Ben Davies (£5.8m), Davinson Sanchez (£5.9m) and Michel Vorm (£4.9m) – in for the injured Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) – the men to come in. Danny Rose (£5.9m) and Eric Dier (£4.9m) drop to the bench.

Sanchez’s inclusion means that Mauricio Pochettino’s side are set to employ a 3-5-2 formation this afternoon, with Lucas Moura (£7.2m) possibly set to join Harry Kane (£12.5m) in attack – as the Brazilian did in the 3-1 win over Fulham. Moura was the second-most-bought player of Gameweek 4, being drafted in by more than half a million Fantasy Premier League managers.

Watford, meanwhile, are unchanged for the fourth successive league match.

The injured Phil Jones (£5.2m) is one of three players to drop out of Jose Mourinho’s starting XI, with Fred (£5.8m) and Ander Herrera (£5.0m) forced to watch on from the bench.

Alexis Sanchez (£10.2m), Marouane Fellaini (£5.0m) and Victor Lindelof (£4.9m) earn a reprieve to the United first team, which looks on paper to be a 4-3-3 following the wing-back experiment of Gameweek 3.

United are yet to keep a clean sheet this season (having recorded a league-high 19 in 2017/18) and David De Gea (£5.9m) – the most-sold goalkeeper of this round – has the worst save percentage of all the Premier League shot-stoppers this campaign.

Having naming an unchanged team for his side’s first three league matches, Sean Dyche has rotated his full-backs, with Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and Phil Bardsley (£4.4m) replacing Stephen Ward (£4.9m) and Matthew Lowton (£4.9m).

An injury to Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.9m) means that 18-year-old Dwight McNeil gets a start on the left flank.

Burnley XI: Hart; Taylor, Tarkowski, Mee, Bardsley; Cork, Hendrick, Westwood, Lennon, McNeil; Wood.

Manchester United XI: De Gea; Valencia, Lindelof, Smalling, Shaw; Fellaini, Matic, Pogba; Lingard, Lukaku, Sanchez.

Watford XI: Foster; Janmaat, Cathcart, Kabasele, Holebas; Hughes, Capoue, Doucoure, Pereyra; Deeney, Gray.

Spurs XI: Vorm; Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Davies; Dembele, Eriksen, Dele; Lucas, Kane.

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  1. FPL Scoop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Spurs bad or Watford great?

    1. Regin
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Both

    2. Rsforstar
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      watford raised their game 2nd half. deserved winner i think

  2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    I own no Spurs players but somehow feel bad that Spurs lost... What is this dangerous emotion?

    1. Adro3
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Might need to see the GP!

    2. Typo
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      dont know

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      What's wrong with you? I'm loving it haha

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Think it's the realisation that Watford are competing with us (Leicester) for Europe this year...

    4. Differential C (Mark)
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Morbid fascination

    5. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Have you put money aside for Harry?

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Nope

    6. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      The feeling of planning to get Spurs assets in?

  3. Adro3
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Bottomed.
    4 players flagged (Cairney Tomkins Zaha Wally), Mkhi not guaranteed a start and no Alonso in my team. WC time?

    1. Midlands Saint73
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I'd say so

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Have similar 5, 40/60 to WC.

    3. Ross From Friends
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Mkhi will start after another horrendous start by Ozil today

    4. Texas Pete
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Yup. Alonso is as essential as they come at the mo.

  4. Differential C (Mark)
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    60 points this GW. First green arrow of the season, phew.

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Nice one, 53 here, probably a grey/ small red :/

    2. Midlands Saint73
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Nice. Think I'll finish with 64 which also gives first green but left annoyed by 15 on the bench mocking me.

    3. SuperMane Returns
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Dont count your chickens though, whats your rank before this GW?

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Pretty bad, from 700k to 350k according to FFFix

        1. SuperMane Returns
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Oh yeh, thats a definite green arrow from there, well done 🙂

    4. FPLGeezer
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      59 and first red and knew it had to come sooner or later.

      1. FPLGeezer
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        *49

    5. J T
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      65 🙂

    6. korbendallas82
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      54. Only 1 point today, so I'll drop from yesterday. But overall maby same. Yesterdays avrage of 33 probably up today.

  5. noahzark22
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    rage-transfer time

    1. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Know the feeling

    2. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Salah -> Billing

    3. 420king
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Told you!

  6. Emiliano Sala
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Best 4.5 gk?
    Ryan? Patricio? Foster or hennessey?

    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Patrico for me

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Hennessey or Patricio

    3. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      + Fab.

      Who, given the Hammers defence, is probably in line to get a load of saves every week.

      1. Eddie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        And probably concede more goals.

    4. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Wolves or CPL fixtures edge it. Foster a close 3rd - but Watford got horrible fixtures.

  7. PlayPercentage
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Glad I started Deeney (3.8% ownership).
    Saved my GW after the Mkhi and Walcott disasters.

    1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      bottled it and went King preseason, fairplay to Troy he's on fire!

      1. PlayPercentage
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Watford are on fire. And Holebas, especially.
        I left him on my bench, though.

  8. TerryVenables
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Trippier nailed?

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No, will rotate with Aurier.

    2. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No. Will be rotated with Aurier around CL.

    3. Mortiis
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Aurier will get games here and there

    4. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty much.

  9. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Fancy getting in on Watford with Holebas and/or Pereyra.

    Foster has been an underwhelming purchase.

    1. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Well done for comparing a keeper with a wing back and their most creative player.

      1. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Possibly two completely separate points.

        1. polis
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Doesn't read as such. But fair point.

    2. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      For a playing goalkeeper he isn't bad

  10. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Kane just looks out of sorts, similar to his performance at the wc

    Not taking as many shots, not really getting into dangerous positions

    Has his role changed? Would be weird considering how well he plays as the lone striker

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      They need to drop Alli

      He is the most overrated player in the PL

      1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Couple of years ago he was immense but he’s carrying on last season’s inconsistent form.

    2. Ambrosiana Inter
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      That f Moira....

    3. PlayPercentage
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe all the football he has played over the last couple of seasons is catching up with him physically.
      Plays every Spurs game, plus the World Cup then only a short recovery time before the new season.

      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        ^this! He's been flogged to death. Llorente is just not a viable back-up

        1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          He’s not of course but Poch didn’t play Son when he was still available either and Son thrives when Kane was out injured. Kane could have been rested until the United game. Massive hindsight of course and who knows how resting him would have worked out but Kane has been flogged like you say.

      2. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        This. I’m surprised Poch didn’t ease him back. Surely Llorente could have done something in the early games.

    4. zizzou123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Seems like Moura played alongside him. Was really non existent..was all set on getting him as Salah's fixtures turn sour but now I'm holding put.

    5. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Looked sharp last week. It's a weird one. Had him earmarked for WC. Think I'll stick to meg MF with Mane/Haz/Salah instead.

    6. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      With Moura there sometimes Moura is the furthest forward and Kane drops a bit deep like Firmino Salah but obviously not as often. Sometimes Kane stays ahead especially when Spurs build slowly from the back.

    7. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I think he’s just tired. He looked dead after the Colombia game. He’s obviously done much better than this time last year due to discovering how to score in August but his stats in all areas are at about 50% of last year ironically and he genuinely looks tired.

  11. Dynamic Duos
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Best go and do my gardening, before I see my OR after this gwk. Fuming, Salah is f#%@ing gone.

    1. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Because of this week? Have you looked at his previous weeks this season?

    2. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Mate, you realise no player goes through a season without a single blank? Nobody is a certain double points haul every week. He blanks for 3-4 in a row and you have a justified gripe but not after one game!

  12. Regin
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    On a wc.
    A. Sterling, Mane, holebas
    B. Salah, Maddison, Robbo

    How nailed is sterling with cl coming up?

    1. FPL Scoop
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      B for me. Could do Holebas over Robertson if you want tho

      1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        I agree because even though Klopp has said he’ll rotate around CL, their upcoming games are tough and he'll have to start his first 11. Except vs SOU perhaps.

    2. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      You can’t seriously believe any City mid is nailed.

      1. super zlatan
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        B

  13. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Is there a possibility catchart losses one baps or Trippier gets one? Currently 29-28

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Trip gets 26

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Cart 3 Trip 0

  14. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    62 points all out.
    Happy enough as had no players playing today.

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Exactly the same as me. Today went about as well as could have been expected for having no players.

      1. super zlatan
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Exactly mate. Hoping rank shouldn’t be effected too much.

  15. zizzou123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    All of a sudden Kane not looking essential. Did have a wonderful chance to make it 2-2 though.

    1. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      When in the world was he essential this season?

  16. Desperately Seeking Dusan
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Has Moura scores a hatty yet? I thought he was the new Walcott. Who was the new Messi.

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      meow

      1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        You know it!

    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Highest scoring Spurs player today. Just sayin'.............

      1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Prettiest pig contest.

  17. PL Ball
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Final Bonus for United game?

    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Pogba and Shaw won’t get any 🙁

  18. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    3 Wolves overkill even if Bennett and Costa will be bench fodder who start games?

  19. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    2 from 2 today

    At least the roast beef I made was lovely

    1. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      0 from 0. Can’t beat that.

      1. Gooner Kebab
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        unless you own Rashford

    2. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Did you go traditional roast or something fancy like a Beef Wellington?

  20. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    What has happened to Kane? He just doesn’t look like the old Kane

    1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Somebody else asking the same. IMHO he’s just tired. Never misses a game, inexplicably (IMHO) not eased back with Son or Llorente up front vs Newcastle. He’s looked dead since after the Colombia game.

  21. lifes a pitch
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Yes or No....
    Salah+King out for Haz+Vardy-4(have the exact funds)

    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No

    2. Digital-Real
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Be careful, Salah looks in good form.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Not this

    3. Texas Pete
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No.

      Salah had a couple of off games last season. I got rid and he went mental.

    4. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Simply do King to Wilson for free imo.

  22. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    My rank is going to look so dirty...

  23. JONALDINHO
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    The only good thing about this weekend is the Salah exodus...

  24. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    I'm glad Auba scored but now i'd be holding on this IB.

    1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Probably a difficult decision now though? I’m not an owner but if he’d blanked, easy decision to move him on... now, do you hold? This goal could be the start...

  25. Slurpy
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Hart 10 pointer. Peng.

    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I benched

    2. Desperately Seeking Dusan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      He read my criticism and decided to shove it down my throat. Good for him. I like the cut of his jib.

  26. stat
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Why has Dave been robbed of a save?

      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Cos of the stats

    • Dr. Ante Pavlovic
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Any chance Trips gets 1 baps? Currently 29-29 with Catchart but he scored a winner..

      1. badgerboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Nah Cathcart should pull away with the winning goal bonus.

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Scroll up.

      3. Desperately Seeking Dusan
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        You’re really scraping that barrel.

    • Zoostation
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      A: Maddison

      B: Pereyra

      C: Moura

      1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        D pogba

      2. We Will Klopp you
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        CAB

      3. Sting
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        B

      4. polis
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Maddison

    • child of God
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Is TAA >Holebas? a good move with rotation looming for taa after international break

    • Dynamic Duos
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Aubameyang or Lukaku? with Maddison in for Salah and Kamara -4

      1. polis
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Kamara definitely worth a -4