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After a barnstorming match between Cardiff City and Arsenal on Sunday lunchtime, the two 16:00 BST kick-offs at Vicarage Road and Turf Moor bring Gameweek 4 to an end.

Tottenham Hotspur have made three changes to the side that beat Manchester United last Monday, with Ben Davies (£5.8m), Davinson Sanchez (£5.9m) and Michel Vorm (£4.9m) – in for the injured Hugo Lloris (£5.5m) – the men to come in. Danny Rose (£5.9m) and Eric Dier (£4.9m) drop to the bench.

Sanchez’s inclusion means that Mauricio Pochettino’s side are set to employ a 3-5-2 formation this afternoon, with Lucas Moura (£7.2m) possibly set to join Harry Kane (£12.5m) in attack – as the Brazilian did in the 3-1 win over Fulham. Moura was the second-most-bought player of Gameweek 4, being drafted in by more than half a million Fantasy Premier League managers.

Watford, meanwhile, are unchanged for the fourth successive league match.

The injured Phil Jones (£5.2m) is one of three players to drop out of Jose Mourinho’s starting XI, with Fred (£5.8m) and Ander Herrera (£5.0m) forced to watch on from the bench.

Alexis Sanchez (£10.2m), Marouane Fellaini (£5.0m) and Victor Lindelof (£4.9m) earn a reprieve to the United first team, which looks on paper to be a 4-3-3 following the wing-back experiment of Gameweek 3.

United are yet to keep a clean sheet this season (having recorded a league-high 19 in 2017/18) and David De Gea (£5.9m) – the most-sold goalkeeper of this round – has the worst save percentage of all the Premier League shot-stoppers this campaign.

Having naming an unchanged team for his side’s first three league matches, Sean Dyche has rotated his full-backs, with Charlie Taylor (£4.5m) and Phil Bardsley (£4.4m) replacing Stephen Ward (£4.9m) and Matthew Lowton (£4.9m).

An injury to Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£5.9m) means that 18-year-old Dwight McNeil gets a start on the left flank.

Burnley XI: Hart; Taylor, Tarkowski, Mee, Bardsley; Cork, Hendrick, Westwood, Lennon, McNeil; Wood.

Manchester United XI: De Gea; Valencia, Lindelof, Smalling, Shaw; Fellaini, Matic, Pogba; Lingard, Lukaku, Sanchez.

Watford XI: Foster; Janmaat, Cathcart, Kabasele, Holebas; Hughes, Capoue, Doucoure, Pereyra; Deeney, Gray.

Spurs XI: Vorm; Trippier, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Davies; Dembele, Eriksen, Dele; Lucas, Kane.

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  1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Tbh I'm tempted to just hold Walcott and Mkhi. Their prime replacements are Pereyra and Pedro who aren't to inspiring

    1. Amsterhammer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I've got both and I think I'll do the same for now.

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      True

    3. Jedi_Reed
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I'd like to hold, but I'm a bit nervous about being priced out of Alonso with Tomkins and Zaha dropping. Fraser seems like an easy makeweight for either of them and then whoever's left can be swapped to Richarlison later on.

    4. Chandler Bing
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I can take them out for Hughes/Neves and Hazard (-4). Still hold?

    5. Penguin
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      They will both explode next gw

  2. only2
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Højberg nailed? Højberg or Guendozi inn for Steph?

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Billing

      1. only2
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Ty, but why not Guendozi

    2. doublyG
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      What happened to Stephens?

  3. Feloh
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    projected OR with a total of 264 pts?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Roughly you rank now.

      1. Feloh
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        that's crappy thought I'd just manage to sneak inside the sub 200K bracket.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          You might. Overall went up 11, top 10K only 5.1

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I have 264 now (before rank update), I'm on 120K.

      Got 3 more coming in from autosub, but reckon I'll be 150K-ish after update

  4. as33
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Hey, Bilva>Moura and Tomkins>Holebas? Holebas price will rise i think

  5. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Would you WC this lot?
    Patricio(Button)
    Alonso Mendy Robertson Wan Bisaka (Tomkins)
    Salah Mane Mkhi Jota Walcott
    Aguero King(Kamara)
    1 ft 0.1 itb

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      How many would you keep?

      1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Aguero
        Mane
        Premium 3 defenders
        Wan Bisaka

        That's it probably but I have got off to a good start (14K) so tempted to not press WC haha) maybe could just take a hit?

        1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Bragging that OR coz It's gonna fall today as only Mkhi played 🙁

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          I'd be tempted to WC if 9 go. Just need a plan if you want the big hitters back.

          1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            True I could use the FT and make that 8 though and Walcott could be a keeper if fit so probably should just wait? But yeah you are right losing someone like Salah could hurt..

  6. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Holebas off my bench for Gudmondsen is the only good thing to happen for me this GW.

    Think I need to play him every week now.

    1. TLF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      That is a very good thing indeed, nice one. I aim to get him on board in a couple of weeks.

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Had him from the start.

        Fancied him from last season but never got round to having him, so promised myself this term I'd take a chance on him.

        I don't have Alonso, but seriously considering going 4-3-3 and playing the holy trinity plus Holebas at the back every week.

  7. Sid07
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Have midfiled of :
    Salah mane Pedro Fraser Stephens
    Should I ditch mane for haz

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Salah to Haz.

    2. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Or Salah to Haz and then Pedro to David Silva

      1. Sid07
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        That would be for a hit

    3. GianniBanani
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Mane scored 4 goals, Salah scored 1 goal and 2 assists, Hazard scored 2 goals (1 pen) and 2 assist.

      Are you sure you are ditching right guy?

      1. Sid07
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Favour Salah more than mane for tough fixtures

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No

      1. Sid07
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks

  8. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Suggestions? 1.3m and 1ft. Much depends on the wally/zaha injury

    Patricio -- Foster
    Alonso Mendy Shaw -- Robertson (TOT) Awb
    Salah Mkhi Pedro Walcott -- Stephens
    Kun Zaha King

    A: Walcott + King >> Dilva + Jimenez/ings (-4)
    B: Walcott + King >> Pogba + Wilson (-4)..exact funds
    C: Salah + Wally >> Hazard + Mane (-4)
    D: Robbo + King >> Doherty + Laca (-4)

    All have their merits. leaning towards B at the moment. C is very tempting but salah the best cpt shout for gw6..cant really trust mane with the armband. D has its merits too as i dont mind loosing robbo (tough fix and i have a lot of money in def) till i WC in gw9

    1. BenDavies
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      C

    2. JakeTheRed
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Wait it out over the break but I would go with B or C

    3. GianniBanani
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      C is an option

  9. DrunkPhilosophy
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    How did Trippier look today for those who watched the Spurs game?

    1. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      7/10

  10. Totalfootball
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Select 1 -

    A) Salah + Wilson
    B) Mane + Lacazette

    1. BenDavies
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      B

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Mane+Wilson/Mitro and Cash?

  11. GianniBanani
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Ederson (Hamer)
    Robbo, Mendy, Alonso (AWB, Bennet)
    Salah, Mane, Mkhi, Fraser (Kante)
    Wilson, Aguero, Mitrovic

    I took a hit last GW (Rich, Kamara > Fraser, Mitro)

    Now I have only 1 FT.

    A Salah > Hazard if prices is going to change (just for fixtures and $$$)
    B Mkhi > More if Mkhi will drop (probably knee jerk)
    C safe FT, wait for injuries and dont care about price drops

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      C today.

      1. GianniBanani
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks, i think I will survive Hazard's 10.7 if Kante, Mkhi and Salah will stand.

  12. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Shaw looks Man U best player at the moment....how weird is that !!!

  13. Differentiator
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Sad about Kane. He's playing a #10 role, which is a waste of time and has killed his attacking promise so far. Fingers crossed Poch sees this and forces him to play higher up the field...

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Defeated Utd away 3-0. I think they have defensive issues with Dembele tbh. Dier needs to come back in.

    2. GianniBanani
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      True, last year his min per attempt was 12.7 (first 4 GW), and now 35.8

  14. pol
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    is the midfield in this team too weak?

    Alonso robo mendy kabasele wanbissaka
    Mane hazard fraser hojberg cairney
    Aguero auba zaha

    1. Totalfootball
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Auba or Laca ?

  15. Totalfootball
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    On a WC , which 1 to go with -

    A) Maddison
    B) Gray
    C) Pereyra
    D) Fraser
    E) Neves

    Will be 4th mid

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      D

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Maddison

    3. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      A or C. Would go Maddison personally but Watford seem to be ticking.

      1. Totalfootball
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        What about Gray instead of Maddison ?

    4. J T
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      C

    5. The White Pele
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      D or C

  16. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    You know how you can see how many transfers a person had made in a given game week.

    If they have played their WC would it show 1 transfer made or 0?

    Has anyone played their WC? - send me your link so I can see what it shows.

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      0 if WC played but can tell if value changes

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      if i remember correctly, it will show as 0.

    3. Amsterhammer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      If they've confirmed their WC it shows 0. You might be able to track changes if their transfer value starts fluctuating on a daily basis. This involves checking their tv every day.

      If they haven't confirmed their WC, each transfer will show until its confirmed.

    4. Davros
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Pretty sure it says zero

  17. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Holebas 3rd on my bench.. I realy think to play him against MAN instead of AWB. Palace dwf without Tompkins is not the same

  18. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Bilva / Peltier -> Pedro / Holebas -4?

    Cheers

  19. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC please, any glaring changes? Thanks :

    Rui Patricio / Norris
    Mendy / Alonso / Shaw / Holebas / Wan-Bissaka
    Mane / Hazard / Lucas Moura / Fraser / Billing
    Aguero / Mitrovic / Lacazette

    1. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Good team
      Lucas might lose his place when Son is back Maybe? He has done great so may still start but the risk is always there..
      Same with Lacazette too, otherwise great team but are you sure about Patricio set and forget?

      1. Krafty Werks
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Ty for reply, yes Lucas is a tough one but think he should be ok for decent minutes first few at least, if not will have to move on i guess? Lacazette i'm going to take a chance on i think as a much needed big diff which could pay off massively in my ML's? Patricio does bother me a bit but does have a pretty decent fixture run until GW11 at least (Burn(H), Man Utd(A), Sou(H), Palace(A), Wat(H), Bri(A) and should hopefully get some decent save points at least in tougher fixtures if i don't decide to move on then?

  20. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    with a very uninspiring set of returns for most players and several popular picks with possible injuries, has anyone got any solid plans going into the IB?

    I think that alonso is the only player who’s played this weekend who’s making himself “essential”. very difficult to see who is the player to own out of salah/hazard or kun/kane/auba.

    I haven’t a clue who I’m targeting or who I need to shift first...

    1. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      The only solid plan I have is to do nothing fpl wise for the next 10 days.

      1. Amsterhammer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Same. Stay away for 10 days until we can get news of Walcott and Zaha.

    2. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      I own Kane but he's looking crap. Hardly has any shots. If I didn't have complete bias for him, I would be selling immediately.

      1. Khark
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Moura is killing Kane.

        Kane to deep when Moura in the side.

        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Kane is playing too deep himself. And refuses to shoot in places he would 100% have last year

    3. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      And Mendy.

      1. The Jackal
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        I'm waiting. Trying not to take hits this year (all those -4pts add up)
        I have close eye on Schürrle for GW6
        Tosun one more chance against the Hammers

    4. FPL.team
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Feel the same so I'm deciding to do nothing.

    5. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Know I want a Chelsea attacker in, but going to monitor price changes & internationals to decide whether Walcott > Pedro or Salah > Hazard.

    6. Critical Observer
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      When in doubt, do nothing. You'll need those trades once you've got an idea of the course you wish to pursue.

  21. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Who to sell?

    A) Bilva
    B) Arnie
    C) Walcott
    D) De Gea

    Think Walcott will be fit in 2 weeks, and De Gea might worth holding as Mourinho has dropped his wing back system and today’s cs.

    1. Khark
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Prolly Bilva I’d make priority. Don’t like the way pep is using him.

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Who would you get for him? 0.1 in the bank

        Moura?
        Mkhi?

        1. Khark
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Emery just proven to me today he’s a weak manager as shown at PSG when he has players in his squad with egos.

          Ramsey needed to come into the side but at the expense of Ozil not Mkhitaryan.

          I’d stay clear with Mkhi even though he’s not done anything wrong and has looked good - he’s got a clown of a manager.

          Schurlle would tempt me if they didn’t have City next but all signs do point Moura - most advance spurs asset. Son is back after the IB but not sure how he gets back into the starting 11.

          P.S Son gets back in, just no idea for who. Spurs need his work rate going forward and his work rate tracking back.

          1. RamaJama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 7 months ago

            Cheers!

  22. Khark
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Cedric 1st Sub. Holebas 2nd Sub

    In my 11: Walcott, Mkhitaryan, AWB

    I hate this game.

    1. Amsterhammer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      They're only bad decisions in hindsight. Most good players would have done exactly the same.

  23. SADIO SANÉ
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    I've got exact funds for Mkhi & Peltier -> Pedro & Jonny, sounds decent but any thoughts on the alternatives? thinking:

    Maddison, Gray, A.Traore

    Pedro better than all of these or is rotation too much of an issue? think Traore could be a great pick if he starts playing regularly

  24. Erlanger
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    A. Salah and Daniels to Alonso and Hazard (-4)
    B. Wildcard
    C. Hold them knees.

    Degea (Hamer*)
    Mendy Robertson Luiz (Daniels* AWB)
    Salah Mane Mkhi* Walcott* Cairney*
    Aguero Zaha* (Kamara)

    1. Scheister
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Just transfer Daniels, perhaps?

  25. Scheister
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Bavies to Holebas or Alonso??
    Cheers

    1. BenDavies
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      alonso

      1. Scheister
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Ha thanks Bavies

  26. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Delighted and surprised with my De gea 6 pointer.

  27. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    Top 10k average is 51 pts. Overall average is 43.5 pts

    So not the highest scoring week. Perhaps some 60+ pts weeks are just around the corner.

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      53 here i’ll take it. Hopefully a green arrow was at 90k before this gw

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Got 50 myself. So below Top 10k average, but not terrible. Still got my WC so hoping that gives me a boost when I play it.

        1. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 7 months ago

          Ye that’s it. I’m playing mine over the break, too many fires to put out

    2. FPL.team
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      69 here. 10 Holebas pts on the bench is annoying.

      1. Khark
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        Try 10 Holebas and 12 Cedric

  28. DrunkPhilosophy
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    If on WC

    Ings or Deeney for that 3rd forward spot?

    1. BenDavies
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      ings

    2. polis
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Coin flip.

      Ings for the .4 probably

    3. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Ings out of those

  29. The White Pele
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    on (-4). Would you WC ?

    DDG (Hamer)
    Alonso Mendy Robertson AWB (Peltier)
    Salah Hazard Dilva Fraser (Stephens)
    Aguero Ings (Kamara)

    1. DrunkPhilosophy
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Not at all!

    2. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      No way

    3. Khark
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Out of interest why would you even suggest WC?

      You’ve got a minging bench but a very good starting 11.

      You can’t justify a WC to sort your bench, do it gradually.

      1. The White Pele
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 7 months ago

        wanted to clean the bench and ditch Salah & Robertson & DDG

  30. T Money
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 7 months ago

    What’s up with Holebas this year? Is he just having one of his form moments, getting lucky, or has the system changed?

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Set pieces. Corner and a free kick today for his assists

    2. T Money
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      He looks good on the surface but very low xA and xG, Doherty has far more without any returns

    3. T Money
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 7 months ago

      Was he not on set pieces last year?