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Will Drmic displace or boost Pukki at Norwich City?

The signing of Josip Drmic should increase competition on Norwich City star striker Teemu Pukki in 2019/20.

However, whether the Swiss international can displace last season’s Championship Golden Boot winner remains to be seen.

He arrives at Carrow Road from Borussia Mönchengladbach looking to resurrect his career after a couple of serious injuries in recent years.

Meanwhile, Pukki comes into the Premier League on the back of a breakout season, in which he scored 29 goals and became a firm fan favourite at Carrow Road.

Drmic is capable of playing the same function as the Finnish forward in Daniel Farke’s Norwich team, having fulfilled a poacher’s role at his previous clubs.

But both Drmic and Pukki have the ability to play at central attacking midfield, while the former has also been used as an inside forward on the left.

In order to predict the impact he will have on the Norwich attack, we have analysed his history and compared him the current options at Carrow Road.

The History and Statistics

Drmic (left) has struggled with injuries in recent years

Drmic became one of Europe’s notable strikers after a breakout season for Nuremberg in 2013.

Joining the Bundesliga side from FC Zurich, he scored an impressive 17 goals in 33 matches.

That didn’t stop his new club being relegated to 2. Bundesliga but it was a tally that turned heads in Germany.

In the 2013/14 season, only Bayern Munich’s Mario Mandzukic and Borussia Dortmund’s Robert Lewandowski scored more league goals (both 18).

That earned Drmic a move to Bayer Leverkusen to keep him in Germany’s top flight amid glowing praise from his new club’s then managing director.

“Josip Drmic has proved his class last year in the Bundesliga – he is one of the outstanding goalscorers in the Bundesliga.” – Michael Schade, 2013

However, the 2014/15 campaign was already the beginning of a downward spiral for the Swiss international, who to this date, still has not got close to the heights of his first season in German football.

In fact, he has not registered more than 1,000 minutes in a league campaign since then either.

In his 12-month stay at Leverkusen, Drmic only started five league matches, featuring as a substitute 20 times and amassing just 794 minutes.

He still managed to find six goals and one assist for Leverkusen but had no such luck in the Europa League, failing to register one attacking return in three starts and four substitute appearances.

A move away from Leverkusen was inevitable and it was local rivals Borussia Mönchengladbach who took Drmic on.

But things still didn’t improve for the striker at Borussia-Park as he scored one goal in five starts and nine substitute appearances for his new club.

The January of the 2015/16 season saw Drmic loaned out to Hamburger but after just six appearances he was ruled out nine months with knee cartilage damage.

That ensured he missed Euro 2016 duty with Switzerland and played just 171 minutes in 2016/17 for Mönchengladbach.

Unfortunately, in April 2017, Drmic picked up another knee injury, which ruled him out until a return to first-team action in November.

Coming back from that setback meant that across the 2017/18 and 2018/19 campaigns, he strung together just six league starts and 12 substitute appearances.

In those two seasons, he still managed six goals despite limited game-time so there is probably still some remnants of his breakout 2013/14 campaign in there somewhere.

Whether he can rediscover it at Norwich is another question.


Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Drmic 18/19 31.3 31.3 73 219
Drmic 17/18 27.2 30.9 92.6 154.3
Pukki 26.5 30.1 67 70.8
O Hernandez 35.6 54.1 92.3 46.8

As you can see from the table above, in either of the last two seasons, Drmic certainly doesn’t outshine either Pukki or left-winger Onel Hernandez – the two players he is most likely to compete with for a place in Norwich’s 4-2-3-1.

Obviously, there are one or two mitigating factors to this comparison.

Firstly, the sample sizes for Drmic are small, a total of just 682 minutes across both of those campaigns, while Pukki and Hernandez both played over 3,100 in 2018/19.

However, that in and of itself is still something to bear in mind, with the Swiss international suffering so much with injuries in recent years.

Secondly is the difficulty between the two divisions, Bundesliga arguably a higher standard than the Championship.

For that reason, it is interesting to note that in both 2017/18 and 2018/19 Drmic’s minutes per shot is not too far off Pukki’s figure from the season just gone.

He is also close for minutes per shot, but Pukki is streaks ahead for accuracy it would seem.

Also, comparing Drmic with Hernandez, it is clear that he could provide more goal threat than him but Norwich might lose creativity on that side of the pitch were he to replace him there.

The Prospects

Drmic (left) adds depth and international experience to the Norwich squad

Judging on Drmic’s immediate past, it does seem unlikely that he will immediately displace Pukki up front for Norwich any time soon.

The Finnish striker comes into the Premier League off the back of an incredible year in the Championship and stands a decent chance of carrying that form into 2019/20.

If Drmic is trying to resurrect his career, Farke surely knows that throwing him ahead of someone such as Pukki probably isn’t the way to do it.

At the very least, Drmic’s arrival adds some healthy competition for Pukki, which could even push him to higher levels this season.

When we spoke to Norwich Evening News reporter Paddy Davitt back in May he described adding depth to the forward as “an essential piece of business”.

We must say that one thing Drmic offers that Pukki can’t is high-level experience of international football.

He has now turned out for Switzerland at two World Cups and was in the squad that made it to the inaugural UEFA Nations League finals.

Although, it is worth saying that Drmic was the one who cost the Swiss third-place at that tournament as he missed the crucial penalty in the shootout against England.

Given Norwich’s well-documented problems with spot-kicks last season, Drmic may not necessarily help them out.

However, his arrival doesn’t necessarily have to put him in direct competition with Pukki.

If Farke was keen to use him, he could be deployed down the left-flank of the 4-2-3-1 as an inside forward.

Hernandez played here for the most part in 2018/19. Even though he contributed eight goals and nine assists, there were murmurings that the German often struggled with putting his chances away.

Our comparison above certainly shows that Drmic is capable of bettering Hernandez in this department, even if it might result in reduced creativity there.

Farke could also pair Drmic with Pukki if he wanted to deploy two strikers, although we learned from the Norwich Evening News that he showed a rigid commitment to 4-2-3-1 on the way to winning the Championship.

Either way, even if Drmic does play from the outset, there is little about his underlying statistics from the last two campaigns to excite us more than Pukki or Hernandez.

Thankfully, Norwich’s tricky fixtures give Fantasy managers time to assess what impact Drmic will have on their attack.

The Canaries currently sit second-bottom for attacking potential on our Season Ticker during the first six Gameweeks of 2019/20.

They face trips to Liverpool, West Ham and Burnley as well as hosting Newcastle, Chelsea and Manchester City during that period.

For that reason, it already seemed sensible not to touch Pukki and his attacking colleagues during the early stages of the season.

Drmic’s arrival simply encourages that approach as we wait to see if he either helps push Pukki onto new levels or comes into the side to trigger a change of formation.

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75 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Gringo Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    22 days, 14 hours ago

    Good morning guys

    TAA at 6.5 would be a gift

    1. Differential (c)
      • 3 Years
      22 days, 13 hours ago

      Indeed, Robbo would be forgotten at the drop of a hat.

    2. HamezMace
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 13 hours ago

      Indeed it would, but I think David made a good point on the podcast, really he needs to be 7m as well to make people have to choose between him and Robertson...if TAA is 6.5m, Robertson will have very low ownership I'd guess.

      I'm hoping today we get;

      Milivojevic
      Enda Stevens
      Kane
      Aguero
      Zaha

      1. Differential (c)
        • 3 Years
        22 days, 13 hours ago

        Forcing people to choose between TAA and Robbo is a must to make the game more interesting. Make one cheaper and the choice is too clear.

        I'm hoping

        - Salah
        - Siggy
        - Coleman
        - Jimenez
        - McNeil

        1. HamezMace
          • 4 Years
          22 days, 13 hours ago

          Jimenez will be interesting...but I'm already resigned to thinking I won't be able to afford him this year.

          1. Differential (c)
            • 3 Years
            22 days, 13 hours ago

            He's a really good option, especially with Wolves early oppenents (with the idea that they're good against teams in the top half of the table). But its also just to try and estimate the prices of the other players.

            1. HamezMace
              • 4 Years
              22 days, 12 hours ago

              Can't believe I can't remember this, but am I right in thinking Wolves have an early start for Europa League games? Teams never seem to respond well to that..WHU and Burnley in recent years.

              1. Differential (c)
                • 3 Years
                22 days, 11 hours ago

                Ahh, a fair point, actually. Will have to monitor them first.

      2. Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        22 days, 13 hours ago

        Salah's price is getting revealed today, it says in on The Scout page on the FPL site at the end of the article about the new player prices

        1. HamezMace
          • 4 Years
          22 days, 13 hours ago

          Ah okay.
          Can't see it changing to be honest, just as long as he isn't reclassified as a striker, which I've regularly argued would be ridiculously, but many seem to think he should be.

        2. ritzyd
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          22 days, 12 hours ago

          Interesting it says on his *new* price indicating a change. He surely won't be going up from £13m?

          1. Bury94
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            22 days, 12 hours ago

            I'd be shocked if he's anything other than a 13m mid again

        3. PUMPKINHEAD
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          22 days, 11 hours ago

          I hope he's priced out to be honest . So far everyone has Robbo, Sterling and Salah and possibly TAA . Exiting game ... Zzzzzz

    3. The 5% Team
      • 1 Year
      22 days, 13 hours ago

      think both players will see a 30% or higher ownership, with lots of people going for the Liverpool double up in defense

      1. HamezMace
        • 4 Years
        22 days, 13 hours ago

        I'm not sure 2 x 7m defenders will be possible.
        I don't see VvD, Allison and TAA all being 7m, so if anyone is going for the double up it'll be with one of the cheaper options I'd think.

        1. The 5% Team
          • 1 Year
          22 days, 13 hours ago

          yeah, that's what I meant...a Liverpool double up of 6.5 + 7.0

          But even a 2 x 7m is an option I feel

          1. HamezMace
            • 4 Years
            22 days, 12 hours ago

            It's all well and good until you try to build a team with Kane, Salah and Sterling + then a few 6.5m-8m mids/forwards. Suddenly 13.5-14m on two Liverpool defenders becomes a luxury you can't afford.

            1. The 5% Team
              • 1 Year
              22 days, 12 hours ago

              yeah true...going 2 x 7m in defense will rule out going for a premium striker for sure, probably what I'm going for.
              But 2 premium defenders and 2 premium mids is very possible

              1. HamezMace
                • 4 Years
                22 days, 12 hours ago

                I always have at least one of Aguero/Kane at the start of the season, and I don't think this season will be any different.

                That said, I'll be watching Chelsea in pre-season, with the transfer ban they are basically down to having either Giroud, or Abraham up front, as far as I can tell, can't see either of them being more than 7m, and then if Rashford is first choice for United (should Lukaku leave and not be replaced) and around 8.5m, there could be options to allow for greater investment in defence.

    4. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 13 hours ago

      They might price all 3 premier Liverpool defenders at 7.0m same as they did with Spurs last season.

      1. Jarvish
        • 4 Years
        22 days, 13 hours ago

        This is my guess too.

    5. Jarvish
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 13 hours ago

      Robbo and TAA at the same price as Fraser and Pereira would look like an error to me.

    6. ZeBestee
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Yeah, almost guaranteed. Robbo is the first one in my team. If i can afford both then why not? VVD at 6.5M as well.

    7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      I’d imagine the only way young Trent-Alexander-Airlines could be more expensive is if they happen to price based on PP90:

      - Player Points/Minutes/Appearances:

      - Robbo 213/3219/36 = 5.96 PP90, 5.91 PPA
      - VVD 208/3384/38 = 5.53 PP90, 5.47 PPA
      - TAA 185/2460/29 = 6.76 PP90, 6.38 PPA

      The suspense is building to the big reveal!

  2. Differential (c)
    • 3 Years
    22 days, 13 hours ago

    Josip Drmic isn't going to displace or boost Pukki. I'm of the opinion that he isn't very good, and won't do well in the PL. Can't pass for dirt, cant seem to hold on to the ball. Finishing is alright, but that's about it. A much worse Javier Hernandez. Glass legs don't help either.
    Surprised, considering how good Norwich have been in their transfers in recent years, eg replacing Madisson with Buendia, getting Teemu Pukki from Brondby etc. Drmic seems like a blatant anomaly.

    1. Mr F Gallagher
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Would expect him to be a back up but Pukki to start the season

  3. Mr F Gallagher
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    Whilst Everton's fixtures are great, the points taken from the same matches last season was only 12 based on their first 10 fixtures

    Led to me to look at all the teams points from last year for their first 10 fixtures this. Link to excel sheet if required- https://ufile.io/xeucj7tr

    ARS 16
    *AST 8
    BOU 20
    BHA 12
    BUR 9
    CHE 20
    CRY 11
    EVE 12
    LEI 15
    LIV 24
    MCI 30
    MUN 16
    NCL 10
    *NOR 7
    *SHU 7
    SOU 7
    TOT 21
    WAT 10
    WHU 19
    WOL 21

    *Have just had predict the promoted teams

    1. Wolves Ay We
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Wolves 21 - Noice.

      1. Mr F Gallagher
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        22 days, 12 hours ago

        How are feeling about Wolves this year? Think it wil continue?

        1. Kopkloppers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          22 days, 10 hours ago

          Not with Euro football.
          Wolves could break the mold though

        2. Wolves Ay We
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          22 days, 10 hours ago

          Yep. The project is just starting.

    2. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      I appreciate the work you put in but as a toffee, the 2 halves of the Everton's season were chalk and cheese.
      If it helps I would like to bring the guys attention to:
      An out and out striker rarely has success with the way Marco Silva sets his teams.
      Many of Everton's points returns were determined on the gelling of the defense.
      Jordan Pickford was atrocious IMO but his FPL points don't really say that.
      Marco plays a complicated form of football and defenders suffered due to the lack of backtracking by midfield.
      The likes of Digne and to a lesser extent Coleman will require stand out performances by centre backs to keep clean sheets.
      There is pace in the Everton squad now which was sadly lacking when trying to play Siggy and Rooney in the same team.
      Marco's style of play lends itself to big swings in form.
      I see Everton finishing 7th this year but will depend on Zuma being signed and Mina and Keane getting up to speed.
      If they get the best out of Schneiders and Gueye then the defenders will be more protected.
      My out of the box choice as a possible star is Lookman.
      I was particularly impressed with Gomez.

      1. Mr F Gallagher
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        22 days, 11 hours ago

        I'm glad you've said this. I personally feel it was a poor season for Everton last year and you'll be much better this year so I'm not put off by what I've put. .
        We can only consider as much of the info we have and often fixtures get hyped because they are blue in the ticker, when actually a little more data needs to be considered.

        Based on fixtures alone, I've predicted Everton will get 23 points from the first 10 games, second only to Man City.

        The 12 points taken from last seasons games is by far the biggest difference in the league between predicted points and points from last year.

        Good luck for the coming season

        1. Kopkloppers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          22 days, 10 hours ago

          Cheers and you.

  4. Grealish at 6m - Will he offer good value?
    Zladan
    • 1 Year
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    Grealish £6m

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      thats a nope from me

      1. Zladan
        • 1 Year
        22 days, 12 hours ago

        I think it depends which club he plays for this season. Still rumours of a move and he is at a nice price point for a 4th midfielder.

        1. OldBenKenobi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 12 hours ago

          agree. but currently not interested

    2. Gringo Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Big no for that price

    3. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      0.5 more than what I was expecting. They'll be better options at similar or less prices I think, unless he gets a transfer that improves his outlook a bit.

      1. Zladan
        • 1 Year
        22 days, 12 hours ago

        Same here. Expected him to be a 5.5m. But a good 5.5m such as Fraser last year will raise to over 6m.

      2. OldBenKenobi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        22 days, 12 hours ago

        Ritchie at 5.5 and now a defender is way more appealling

        1. Rotation's Alter Ego
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          22 days, 12 hours ago

          Will be interesting to see where Ritchie ends up playing, or if he plays at all. 5.5 for a OOP on and pens would be tasty, but the thought of buying a 5.5m Newcastle defender makes me shudder

          1. OldBenKenobi
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            22 days, 12 hours ago

            ha ha 😆 OOP would be lovely

    4. The Wise Owl
      • 3 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Will wait and see.

    5. HamezMace
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Difficult to answer with only Fraser to compare him to so far, but historically £6m is an awkward price point, instant reaction is no.

    6. Differential (c)
      • 3 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Maybe, its intrirguing

    7. Toblerone52
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      If loading up on premium defenders I doubt many will be jumping on him for 6 million. Budgets are going to be tight.... he could prove value later in the season though.

    8. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      flatters to deceive IMO

    9. PUMPKINHEAD
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      Wait and see . Potentially that could be a decent price

    10. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      22 days, 10 hours ago

      My villa mate will captain him because he moves the guy. But he’s a bit more of a player that keeps the team ticking rather then outright points scorer himself.

      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        22 days, 10 hours ago

        I think it is a bit of a reputation thing as well. Jack is the headliner in that team, so almost priced for being the main man/captain.

  5. OldBenKenobi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    Cant wait for Salah proce to be revealed today (and probably last too) especially when he's reclassified as a forward 😉

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      price*

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        22 days, 11 hours ago

        12 to 12.5 maybe.
        My big wait is Auba.

  6. The 5% Team
    • 1 Year
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    Grealish = 6M

    good price, but not for me I think

  7. pingissimus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    More or less no chat about VVD - who also sailed under the radar in the defender of the year.

    I “upgraded” him to Robbo in 26 last season - only to see a net fall in points. Yes the timing was unlucky but he’s still the second highest defender points scorer ever.

    If he’s the one who’s 0.5 cheaper then I’m going to need to stop and think. 0.4 ppm fewer than Robbo of course but still.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 12 hours ago

      Cant see it. All 3 will be 7.0 and that fourth slot will be 6.0-6.5 I think

    2. HamezMace
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      I don't think Robertson, TAA, VvD and Allison will all be £7m personally.
      Difficult to say without all the prices, and planning the team, but I still think I'll only be taking one of Robertson, or TAA.

    3. Zladan
      • 1 Year
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      Likely to be 6.5m.

      Robbo at 7m and TAA at 6.5/7m are far more appealing.

      I will likely be picking between Robbo, TAA, Mane, Salah again this year.

      1. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        22 days, 11 hours ago

        I’ve half talked myself into avoiding Mo and Mane for the first couple anyway due to Afcon.

        I’m a bit dubious about Mo anyway given the trouble I had in not captaining him last time out. Though if he and Sterling come in close to each other I’ll probably rethink.

        1. Vobinho In Wengerland
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          22 days, 11 hours ago

          I'm tempted to triple up with Liverpool in defence, rotate between Aguero and Sterling for captaincy.

          Then WC GW 4 possibly when Salah is back in action (assuming he gets rotated at the start due to AFCON)

          1. HamezMace
            • 4 Years
            22 days, 11 hours ago

            Is that possible?
            Looks like you'll have about 6m each for your other six outfield players, and only one of them would be a defender.

          2. pingissimus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            22 days, 11 hours ago

            I’m looking at Kane as a possible value pick and captain option.

            If you look at how he matched Sterling while he was fit last season it isn’t crazy - if that is they come in at similar prices this time around.

    4. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      If we had to pay 20 mil for VVD TAA and Robbo, it would be hard to get better points scorers at that price. I could well ignore Pool forwards for those 3.

  8. OldBenKenobi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    22 days, 12 hours ago

    Its happening..... 😯

  9. Differential (c)
    • 3 Years
    22 days, 11 hours ago

    Grealish
    (18/19)

    34 games
    6 goals
    7 assists
    5 Yellow Card

    Ummm, for 6m . . .

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      so you're saying he's nailed on 😉

      1. Differential (c)
        • 3 Years
        22 days, 11 hours ago

        Bang on haha.
        If McGinn comes in at 5.5, its a no brainer though.

  10. Kopkloppers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    22 days, 11 hours ago

    I can't remember but what are the points totals and points per match for
    Robbo TAA and VVD?
    and paying an extra 4 mil for
    Salah and Mane.
    Outside of a captain pick I see no reason not to have 3 pool at the back.

    1. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      One assumption is that they’ll pick up cs in the same way next season.

      It’ll be really hard to stand firm if/when they go on a trot of conceding. City for instance went 8 or 9 in a row last season conceding goals but equalled Liverpool overall.

      That or something similar could easily repeat. Even 4 in a row could be tough to withstand and attacking returns may not be all that as non triplers will get them too.

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        22 days, 10 hours ago

        A concern for me too and I will more than likely stick with 2 defenders. If all 3 score 170+ points then it would be worth it it terms of points per mil.
        When the inevitable cheap mid or forward comes up then plans can be changed. I just think they can get 90% of the points big hitters get.

  11. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
    • 3 Years
    22 days, 11 hours ago

    Callum Wilson 8.0

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 11 hours ago

      hmm interesting

    2. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      22 days, 10 hours ago

      About right but would have preferred 7.5.
      I planned for him and Auba with a throw away.