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30 July 2019 1812 comments
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There were four pre-season matches on Sunday, with Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Southampton all in action.

There were plenty of talking points from this quartet of friendlies but Liverpool’s 3-0 defeat to Napoli was the most eye-catching result and the game that our latest Scout Notes piece scrutinises first.

Liverpool 0-3 Napoli

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), Alisson (£6.0m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) are set to join up with their Liverpool colleagues ahead of Wednesday’s final pre-season friendly against Lyon.

The Reds also have a Community Shield to contest against Manchester City next Sunday, which may provide Fantasy managers with more clues as to whether these players will be ready to feature in Gameweek 1.

Speaking the day after the 3-0 defeat to Napoli, Jurgen Klopp said:

We got the information a couple of seconds ago that everybody’s fine, everybody’s coming in time, they got their flights and everything so from this afternoon on Shaq, Naby, Bobby, Mo and Alisson will be in training, which is great.

So we have the game on Wednesday but obviously, we had to learn in this pre-season that we play the games pretty much always a bit in the wrong moment, but we had to play them anyway so it was just another training session.

But of course, you would like to get a bit more from training sessions than we got for example from yesterday. We play Wednesday the game against Lyon but we have to see how we do that, we organised it months back when we thought ‘OK, they come back, they can maybe play 10, 20, 30 minutes or whatever’.

We didn’t know in that moment it will be important for Shaq and Naby as well, but apart from that we have to prepare still the season and not only the game on Sunday, but of course the game on Sunday is the first proper game of the new season and so we try to be as good prepared as possible.

As Klopp alluded to there, Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.5m) and Naby Keita (£6.0m) will also be involved after injury and international duty, although Sadio Mane (£11.5m) won’t return to training until next week.

Formation Experiment

Sunday’s game saw the continuation of the 4-1-4-1 experiment, with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.5m) and Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m) stationed on the flanks either side of lone striker Divock Origi (£5.5m).

It is fair to say Liverpool lacked potency in attack as a result, with the relative success story of the 2-2 draw with Sporting put into some context.

Origi couldn’t really make the ball stick up front and wasted a great chance early on when flicking an Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) cross wide.

These three players, of course, are placeholders for Mane, Salah and Firmino in the short term but should the latter two be match-fit for Norwich a week on Friday, it may be that Wijnaldum – rather than Origi – gets the nod to fill in for Mane in Gameweek 1.

Defensive Wobbles

While the front three were makeshift, Liverpool’s backline – except for goalkeeper Simon Mignolet (£4.5m) – has been at full-strength in the last two matches.

With Fabinho (£5.5m) stationed in front of the back four and Jordan Henderson (£5.5m) and James Milner (£5.5m) playing centrally in advance of the Brazilian, there was an argument to say that Liverpool’s defence was about as strong as it could possibly get against Napoli – although that would overlook the influence of Alisson and how effective Liverpool’s first-choice attacking trio is in pressing from the front.

There’ll be a legitimate concern in the Fantasy community that the Reds have now shipped five goals over their last two pre-season friendlies and ten in their last four.

While results over the summer can be ultimately meaningless when the proper business starts in August, Sunday’s 3-0 defeat to Napoli provided food for thought for those considering a double-up or more on the Liverpool defence.

Many punters would justifiably argue that Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) is the best attacking right-back in the Premier League but the England international occasionally flatters to deceive at the other end of the pitch and all three of Napoli’s goals came from Liverpool’s right flank.

Lorenzo Insigne ran Alexander-Arnold ragged down Napoli’s left and had a hand in all three goals, although the Liverpool full-back wasn’t given much help by Oxlade-Chamberlain in front of him and Joel Matip (£5.5m) deserves some flak for backing off Insigne for Napoli’s first goal.

Klopp said:

We just conceded two simple goals, each ball we lost was pretty much a proper counter-attack. Napoli are good in that, but you have to defend that obviously better or you have to keep the ball or you have to have a better formation. Pretty much you need to have everything better than we had in these situations and they had more chances.

The good news is that Liverpool’s opening eight Premier League fixtures are fairly favourable and they won’t come up against a calibre of player like Insigne on too many occasions throughout 2019/20.

Nor will they likely have to do as much defending in the first few Gameweeks of this season as they have done in their four most-recent pre-season games against top-quality opposition in the form of Dortmund, Sevilla, Sporting and Napoli.

That, in turn, means that the likes of Alexander-Arnold and Robertson will be free to spend a lot more time at the other end of the pitch, where they plundered a combined 26 attacking returns between them in 2018/19.

It may simply take a few games for Liverpool’s watertight backline of last season to find their feet again but that might be enough to deter some Fantasy managers from a double-up or triple-up on the Reds’ defence in the first few Gameweeks of the season, despite the appealing fixture schedule.

Liverpool XI (4-1-4-1): Mignolet, Alexander-Arnold (Hoever 73′), Matip (Lovren 62′), Van Dijk (Van den Berg 79′), Robertson (Gomez 73′), Fabinho (Duncan 79′), Wijnaldum (Elliott 79′), Henderson (Lallana 62′), Milner (Lewis 79′), Oxlade-Chamberlain (Wilson 62′), Origi (Brewster 62′).

Arsenal 1-2 Lyon

  • Goal: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m)
  • Assist: Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£7.0m)

Unai Emery has suggested that the injury that led to Alexandre Lacazette’s (£9.5m) 13th-minute substitution in Sunday’s Emirates Cup defeat to Lyon is not too serious.

Lacazette limped from the field of play and was later seen wearing a protective boot but Emery said the withdrawal was hopefully just precautionary:

We are thinking it’s not important, he decided with the doctor and with me that it is better to take no more risk. He tried to continue playing but I think it was better in the pre-season to take patience.

The doctor said to me he is going to check tomorrow but the thinking is that it is not important. It’s in his ankle, a sprained ankle. He will probably be assessed over the next few days – but it’s not serious.

Aubameyang Central

Lacazette’s early substitution meant that there was a change of role for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£11.0m), who had begun Sunday’s match on the right wing of a 4-2-3-1.

Aubameyang has impressed on the flank against Bayern Munich and Real Madrid this summer but there will be plenty owners of the Gabon international who prefer the premium FPL forward to be playing as a bona fide striker rather than out wide.

It was indeed Aubameyang who grabbed Arsenal’s only goal of the match on Sunday when he expertly redirected a fierce Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£7.0m) cross from the right flank past Anthony Lopes.

The Gabonese striker also hit the post late on.

Emery has largely favoured a 4-2-3-1 in pre-season, however, so the prospects of Aubameyang featuring centrally from Gameweek 1 onwards may hinge on Lacazette’s availability.

Formation Watch

That said, Emery used the second half of Sunday’s defeat to experiment with a different system.

From Lacazette’s departure up until half-time, Aubameyang led the line and was supported by an attacking midfield trio of Mkhitaryan, substitute Reiss Nelson and – playing in more of an advanced, ‘number ten’ role – Joe Willock.

After the break, Willock dropped back into central midfield alongside Granit Xhaka (£5.5m), while Aubameyang was joined up front by Eddie Nketiah (£4.5m) in a 4-4-2.

The formation may well be one Emery is again considering in order to get Lacazette and Aubameyang playing in tandem up front, although second-guessing the Arsenal boss’s tactics was nigh-on impossible in 2018/19.

Nketiah had several chances to extend the Gunners’ lead in the second half but couldn’t convert, although the Gunners’ young attackers dovetailed well with Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan throughout.

Absences Explained

It wasn’t a massive shock to see Mesut Ozil (£7.5m) and Sead Kolasinac (£5.5m) missing from the Arsenal squad list after the pair were caught up in an attempted car-jacking at the end of last week.

Emery said of the pair’s absence:

It’s not a good moment to play because their mind is not now 100 per cent. It’s a very personal circumstance and the most important thing now is that they can feel good, they can feel safe, they can feel calm with their family.

They came this morning but I spoke to them and decided it was best to continue their resting with their families and wait for a few days to hopefully come and start normally with the team. We are going to see each day. Tomorrow we are going to check again how they are. This morning they came here but weren’t ready to play the match.

Defending the Defence

The team with the fewest away clean sheets in the Premier League last season haven’t yet bolstered their defence over the summer and the Arsenal backline predictably looked suspect on occasion on Sunday.

Moussa Dembele escaped centre-back Calum Chambers (£4.5m) to nod Lyon level before breaching the offside trap to score the winner in the 75th minute.

Emery backed his defence after full-time, however, saying:

Obviously the result is 1-2, we lost. But I must say, in the first half I think we defended well. In the first half, we were in very good positioning, defensively we didn’t struggle and offensively we created chances. We controlled the game. In general, in the first half, I think the team worked like we want to, to take the way forward.

In the second half, maybe we lost a little bit of comfortability. In the second half, we could have felt more comfortable in the pitch but this comfortability was not possible. We were thinking maybe because we are also sometimes creating chances, we are going to win at 1-0. But really it was a surprise. They arrived in the second half for two or three times and they scored.

Defensively, I think we are doing a good balance but in the second half we lost that a little. We are going to watch, work and take more decisions about that.

Arsenal XI (4-2-3-1): Leno, Maitland-Niles (Jenkinson 76′), Chambers (Mustafi 69′), Sokratis, Monreal (Medley 86′), Xhaka, Guendouzi (Nketiah 46′), Mkhitaryan (Martinelli 69′), Willock (Ceballos 69′), Aubameyang (Burton 86′), Lacazette (Nelson 13′, John-Jules 76′).

Reading 3-4 Chelsea

  • Goals: Ross Barkley (£6.0m), Kenedy (£5.5m), Mason Mount (£6.0m) x2
  • Assists: Olivier Giroud (£7.0m), Marcos Alonso (£6.5m), Tammy Abraham (£7.0m), Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m)

Fantasy managers are not much further forward in knowing what Frank Lampard’s preferred formation and personnel will be in Gameweek 1.

The new Chelsea boss used 22 different players at Reading on Sunday and changed formation at the break, ditching the 4-2-3-1 in favour of a 4-4-2.

Speaking after the match, Lampard said:

I wouldn’t say I’ve made decisions yet in terms of selection for those early games or what the squad looks like because that’s a line and I don’t want to draw that line just yet.

There’s not a player who hasn’t pushed themselves and shown me everything but these are decisions I have to make. They’re not absolutely clear decisions but I’ll make them in due course.

Injury Update

Lampard also brought us up to speed on the Blues’ injury situation, with several of their assets currently flagged in FPL.

Asked about N’Golo Kante (£5.0m), Lampard said:

The signs are good. It was certainly the right decision for him to come home early from Japan and get the treatment he had.

He’s dipped into training with us over the last couple of days and I expect him to be training through this week to the point that he can be fully involved at the start of next week. There’s a lot more he needs to do physically without us but we’re hopeful.

While Kante may well be ready for the trip to Manchester United a week on Sunday, Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m) is looking less likely to be available for Chelsea’s Premier League curtain-raiser.

Asked about the young winger, the Chelsea boss said:

He’s not training with us yet but the injury is coming on ahead of schedule. There will be a period for Callum where his injury is fine but then he needs to get fit to play in the team because it’s going to be very demanding with the way I want to play from front to back.

He’s not far away and I know he’s done everything throughout the summer with our medical team to get back quickly.

Hudson-Odoi and Willian (£7.0m) may be vying for one spot on the left wing when fully fit but Lampard says he wants both players to sign new contracts and stay in west London.

The Blues’ head coach added:

Willian and Callum are both players I want in my squad. We’ve made some good moves this pre-season with Mason Mount and Ruben Loftus-Cheek signing new contracts, two young players nailed down and the club are always trying to do that.

From a football sense, I’ve made my ideas very clear. I’m working very closely with Marina [Granovskaia] and the board because these are two players that we want to stay for sure.

Mount v Barkley

Mason Mount and Ross Barkley (both £6.0m) were responsible for three of Chelsea’s four goals on Sunday but may well be competing for one starting spot come August 11.

Barkley curled in an excellent free-kick after a foul on Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) but Mount went one better after half-time, finishing from a deflected Tammy Abraham (£7.0m) pass and then tapping in when Michy Batshuayi (£7.0m) had intercepted a poor kick out from Reading goalkeeper Sam Walker.

Barkley and Mount have briefly shared pitch-time in both a 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2 diamond this summer but the last two friendlies have seen them kept apart in separate line-ups and Lampard hinted in his post-match comments that there could be a straight fight between the pair ahead:

You look at the goals, Ross and Mason with his two goals as well. They’re two young players, Mason is a little bit younger, but they are vying for similar positions which is great. I want competition in midfield and there were good performances all over the pitch.

Mount and Barkley are likely to be tussling for the ‘number ten’ role in whichever of the two formations Lampard settles on and the pair have had excellent pre-seasons so far, with both instrumental either side of half-time on Sunday.

The midfield picture is further complicated given that Jorginho (£5.0m) and Mateo Kovacic (£5.5m) have quietly impressed further back, while Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) is still in the early stages of being bedded in and we are yet to even see Kante, Willian, Hudson-Odoi and Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.5m) under their new boss.

Pedro (£7.0m), meanwhile, was used as the tip of the diamond in the second half against Reading.

Competition Up Front

Giroud, Batshuayi and Abraham were all handed 45 minutes to impress on Sunday and there isn’t a great deal to separate this trio, who are all available for £7.0m in FPL.

Giroud was given the lone striker’s role in the 4-2-3-1 set-up in the first half, with Batshuayi and Abraham paired together after the break.

All three FPL forwards were involved in a Chelsea goal at Reading, although there wasn’t much to report regarding goal threat of their own: Rotation’s Alter Ego and Twisted Saltergater both suggesting that Abraham was the most effective of the three and that Giroud doesn’t look a natural fit for Lampard’s high-energy approach.

Defensive Decisions

Chelsea didn’t convince at the back in Berkshire and were exposed against a side that scraped Championship survival in 2018/19.

Kurt Zouma (£5.0m) was given the nod alongside David Luiz (£6.0m) in Chelsea’s stronger-looking second-half team but was part of a defence that conceded twice after the break, so it remains too early to say whether he or Andreas Christensen (£5.0m) will be handed the role alongside Luiz at Old Trafford in Gameweek 1.

Marcos Alonso (£6.5m) was his usual self: bombing forward to support the visitors’ attack and registering an assist for Kenedy’s (£5.5m) fortuitous goal but leaving plenty of space in behind him for the hosts to exploit.

The battle between Alonso and Emerson Palmieri (£5.5m) is one that will perhaps drag on as it did towards the back-end of 2018/19 but Cesar Azpilicueta (£6.0m), limited as he is in attack, looks to now be Lampard’s first choice at right-back after a brief stint at centre-half earlier in the month.

Chelsea first-half XI (4-2-3-1): Caballero, Zappacosta, Christensen, Tomori, Alonso, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Kenedy, Barkley, Pulisic, Giroud.
Chelsea second-half XI (4-4-2): Caballero (Cumming 63′), Azpilicueta, Zouma, David Luiz, Emerson, Pedro, Jorginho, Kovacic, Mount, Abraham, Batshuayi.

Feyenoord 1-3 Southampton

  • Goals: Che Adams (£6.0m), Maya Yoshida (£4.5m), Sofiane Boufal
  • Assists: James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m), Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m)

Southampton made it ten goals in three pre-season games after coming out on top in an end-to-end match in Rotterdam.

The Saints’ high, aggressive press repeatedly caused Feyenoord problems early on, with Che Adams (£6.0m) scoring his third Southampton goal when slide tackling defender Sven van Beek in the hosts’ box after just six minutes.

Nathan Redmond (£6.5m), supporting Adams and Danny Ings (£6.0m) in attack, almost repeated the trick soon after when dispossessing home goalkeeper Kenneth Vermeer but couldn’t quite apply the finishing touch to double the Saints’ lead.

Southampton were a menace up front but looked frail at the back, with Ralph Hasenhuttl opting for a three-man central defence and wing-backs in the first half.

Angus Gunn and Alex McCarthy (both £4.5m) were busy either side of half-time, with Orkun Kökcü equalising for the hosts midway through the first half.

Maya Yoshida (£4.5m) restored Southampton’s lead before the break, bundling the ball over the line after James Ward-Prowse‘s (£6.0m) direct free-kick attempt had been blocked.

Hasenhuttl made ten changes at the interval and continued his tactical experimentation by switching to a 4-2-2-2.

The Saints were more defensively solid after the break and perhaps posed less threat in attack as a result, although forgotten man Sofiane Boufal rounded off the scoring late on when calmly finishing off a pass from Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m).

Hasenhuttl said of the game:

I think the pressing was very good in the first half. We won a lot of balls and they gave us the chance to do so. On the other hand, we gave a few chances away because deep defending and long balls we didn’t defend very well. Finally, two good goals. We could have scored more often because we had a lot of chances in the first half.

Second half, it was a different shape with the younger guys. I think what they can show they showed me. We haven’t been as dominant as in the first half sometimes but it was a good test, I saw a lot of good things and a few bad things which is ok.

Oriel Romeu (£4.5m) and Jack Stephens (£4.5m) sat this game out with minor injuries, while Moussa Djenepo (£5.5m) wasn’t involved after only just returning from a post-Africa Cup of Nations breather.

Southampton XI (3-4-1-2): Gunn (McCarthy 46′), Yoshida (Hoedt 46′), Vestergaard, Bednarek (Obafemi 46′), Valery (Soares 46′), Hojbjerg (Smallbone 46′), Ward-Prowse (Reed 46′), Bertrand (Vokins 46′), Redmond (Boufal 46′), Adams (Armstrong 46′), Ings (Long 46′).

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  1. Liamkay7
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Pope (Gunn)
    Coleman, Zinchenko, TAA, VVD, Walker
    Sterling, KDB, Perez (Dendoncker, Douglas Luiz)
    Kane, Jota (Greenwood)
    1.5 ITB

    Any tinkering to be done?

    1. Liamkay7
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Sorry minus Walker, looking for different option there.

      1. dmfisher
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Bit concerned by Jota opening fixtures, but with 1.5 itb then you could see who leads Chelsea line.

      2. Too Many Hits
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Digne over Coleman surely?

    2. OFord
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not interested in Wilson over Jota?

  2. JJeyy
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    With VAR a -

    Kane, Vardy, King

    Frontline is @@essential@@

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      ...yet no one owns Norwood...

      1. Klein
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Norwood is not the designated taker imo. He did take 2 in friendly but not sure.

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          would not have done him any harm...also on setpieces...

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            I own him. Admittedly he's on my bench ....

    2. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Penalty numbers do not increase because of VAR

  3. dmfisher
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Thoughts (for first 2 weeks, after that some reshuffle with Aub, Origi, Moura to shift in Salah or Mane with 6.5 striker to match fixture and form):

    Ederson
    Ake, Robertson, VVD
    Sterling, Perez, Siggy, Moura, Fraser
    Aubam, Origi

    Usual cheap bench

    1. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I think you should try and not plan transfers already for 2 weeks time. At the start of the season anything can happen. With Norwich first, you should plan for salah already I’d say. You could miss out on an early brace..

      I don’t think ake is good value at 5’

      1. dmfisher
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Who would you suggest is good value for 5? Plan is based on the fact we know some players are being rested so may not be playing full matches if at all first 3/4 fixtures, that includes Salah potentially not seeing out 90....

        1. No Kane No Gain
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Even if salah saw 70 mins, that’s good enough v Norwich and Southampton.

          If you fit salah in then you’d probably have a whole different defence. I’d go for a 4.5 defender over the 5s around.

          1. dmfisher
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            cheers. No doubt there'll be version 58 of the team after charity shield. For now think I'll hold, gambling on Origi as a differential and Scouser clean sheets for those early fixtures... my regret it, unless Aubam slams in a few.

  4. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    How does my 1st draft look?

    Ryan, Button
    Taa,Robbo,Digne,Zinchenko,Taylor
    Salah,Sterling,Gros,Perez,Dendoncker
    King,Jota,Deulofeu

    1. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Too much money on the bench

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        True. Better as a 442. Lose Deulo and use 2m to get a proper keeper and better 5th defender or midf.

    2. OFord
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Just play a 4-4-2 get rid of Deu and swap Gross for Siggy

  5. De Gea is GOAT
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Currently stuck on this lads. Any help would be much appreciated

    Pope Button
    Robbo TAA Zinc Lunds Taylor
    Salah Sterl Fraser Perez Mcginn
    Wilson Green Wood

    Not 100% sure on Wood and could well be swapped for Jota

    1. OFord
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Wood looks more appealing from GW 5-8 for me

  6. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Carnage will ensure when Aguero bags a hattie against Spurs.

    1. Bouncebackability
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      *ensue

  7. Robson-Canoe
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Why the love for Ceballos? Doesn't he play very deep and have very little goal involvement?

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      He's got a fancy continental name and comes from a continental league, this is much more important than his actual ability

      See also Wesley, Trossard, etc etc

      1. el polako
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Apart from above he was also the best player of Under 21 Euros where Spain won the title.

        Very good quality from standing ball and an eye for a unconventional pass.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Kind of proves the point though, right? Is international u21 football Generaly considered a good predictor of Premier League, and specifically, FPL performance?

          He scored 3 goals in 23 apps la liga last season... No assists...

          If owners are lucky he'll be somewhere around the gudmundsson level (if they're lucky) yet there's a bit of hype around him because of his name and his passport

          1. el polako
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Of course it dosent but it makes no harm to shine at tournament just before transfer.

            Since Spain was in the same group as Poland I watched their games and there is no doubt about his passing ability - quick brain & quick feet. I guess his stats from Madrid are what they are mainly beacasue of Modric & Kroos in the team.

            We can have genetlman's bet and I would say that his numbers at the end of the season will trump Burnley's man.

    2. ENZO SZN™
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      5.5 midfielder playing for attacking Arsenal team.
      People will dump him when Pepe sign though.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Completely different positions and price points.

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I don't get it or the Jorginho love

      1. OFord
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I guess the attraction with Jorginho is he's only 5.0 and takes pens, I think he might get a few more assists this year too as I would expect Kante to be playing deeper

        1. brownc46
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          A few more than 0?

          1. OFord
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Can’t get any worse

        2. UnluckyXI
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Ceballos really depends, if he takes ozil's place and plays the Aaron Ramsey role he could do well with a dangerous front free ahead of him, if however he rotates with xhaka and torreira expect 2 points a game with maybe 3-5 goal/assists over the season with a few yellows

  8. MattB
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    A) De Gea & Dunk
    B) Pope & Stones

  9. Canary_Kid
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Absolutely love this team

    Pope (Button)
    Robbo Trent Cathcart Bednarek (Diop)
    Salah KDB Fraser (Leitner Dendoncker)
    Auba Wilson Deu

    Thoughts?

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      prefer a sterling team

    2. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Defense is too weak

    3. No Kane No Gain
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yeah not sure where to
      Start tbh..

      Not a fan of Deu listed as striker, he also only scores against poor teams.

      Bednarek and Cathcart won’t gather you too many points.

      Heavily backed Bournemouth, a king penalty via someone like brooks assist and you have 15.5M doing nothing.

      I like Auba Salah and Trent. Maybe downgrade robbo?!

      I also agree with above, sterling is essential in my eyes.

    4. The_Fish
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I don't

  10. UnluckyXI
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    With gueye off, zouma no where insight and mina potentially facing a lengthy betting ban do we think Digne has enough attacking potential to warrant 6.0?
    Especially as their forward situation isn't exactly inspiring either.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It's a 'yes' from me Clive

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        And it's a 'no' from me.

    2. ENZO SZN™
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Based on their pre-season so far, even 'attacking potential' looks slim.

    3. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Yep

    4. n14mul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I got Coleman and not sure. If Maguire goes to United I'm tempted to go for AWB

    5. Emiliano Sala
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      No

  11. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Any decent 4.5m playing mids?

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      dont go there.

    2. UnluckyXI
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Playing yes, decent no

    3. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not really. We’ve all got Dendonker

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nope.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Donkers, but really he's ideal bench material.

    5. Canary_Kid
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Leitner

  12. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    First try at the 3 big hitters team. How's it looking?

    Pope (4.0)
    Robbo VVD Coleman Zinchenko (Lundstram)
    Salah Sterling Perez McGinn (Dendoncker)
    Kane King (Greenwood)

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      King is on my never again list

    2. n14mul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      That's my exact team which I posted to get opinions on few pages ago!!

      1. n14mul
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Sorry baring VVd I have stones and am settled on having 2 x 4.5 gk

        1. n14mul
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I have .5itb and currently not sure on the both GK and king and McGinn but there are many options for these 2 places so not too worried yet

    3. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      If you downgrade Kane to Wilson for example, you will be able to upgrade Pope to Ederson, VVD to Trent, Coleman to Digne and McGinn to a better 6.0 striker or mid. You are not going to captain Kane with Salah and Sterling as options and Wilson can easily match Kane over the first two weeks.

    4. ShaunGoater123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Same as mine aside from I have digne and Norwood instead of Coleman and mcginn.

      I’m amazed by the amount of people advising against 3 big hitters, doesn’t make sense to me

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Wouldn't go Norwood personally mate. Plays really deep and not sure how many set pieces he'll be on this season with new signings

    5. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It's great IF Pope, Zinchenko and McGinn perform

    6. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Ederson Digne Laporte Zaha Jota will comfortably outscore
      Pope Coleman Zinchenko McGinn Kane though.

  13. HamezMace
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    If Maguire does end up at United, does that change anyone’s defensive templates?
    I imagine his overall ownership would be very high, but how about amongst the FFS community?
    Do De Gea, or Shaw become options?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I like AWB regardless but that's it

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Surely adding Maguire to their defence only strengthens the appeal of Wan Bissaka?
        I didn’t think he offered enough going forward to be worth 5.5m.

    2. n14mul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Awb more template?

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Possibly, I think Maguire would enhance his appeal.

    3. ENZO SZN™
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'd consider him out of the back four. Bonus potential if they get clean sheets.
      Interesting that they are all £5.5m.

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        He can only enhance the other defensive options.

        1. ENZO SZN™
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Not sure how offensive their fullbacks can be. I remember the CBs was the better pick during that 18 CS season.
          Guess we'll have to wait and see.

    4. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      I'm currently on Pickford; I think I'd switch to De Gea. That's all. I mean I've already got Greenwood 😉

      1. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        If I was spending 5.5m on a keeper I’d go De Gea over Pickford anyway....personally I’d try and find the extra for a 6m though.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I've got 6 CityPool outfielders. Gone DDG anyway.

  14. CROCosta
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    I am really tempted to start the season with Sane alongside Sterling, it does require couple of sacrifices, which do you prefer:
    A) Sane, King, Rico, (Dendo)
    B) Fraser, FAnderson, Coleman, (Nkietah)

    Rest of the team:
    Ryan
    TAA, VVD, Digne (Reid)
    Salah, Sterling, Perez
    Wilson (Greenwood)

    1. KingOllie
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      a i think

    2. ENZO SZN™
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Both option will leave you with 2 non-playing bench
      Rico & Reid / Greenwood & Nketiah

  15. Liamkay7
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Updated:
    Pope (Gunn)
    TAA, Robo, VVD, Walker, Coleman
    Sterling, KDB, Perez
    Auba, Jota
    (Dendoncker, Douglas Luiz, Greenwood)

    Thoughts? advice?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure Douglas Luiz is nailed early and I'm Villa fan

      1. Liamkay7
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Okay thanks

  16. Ostrich Baby
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Been working on my team for a bit - it's got a few attacking punts in it, but also got some guaranteed scorers - I hope:

    Ederson

    KWP Robertson VVD

    Sterling Salah Perez Trezeguet Callum Robinson

    Joelinton Kane

    Subs: Button Henley Kelly Greenwood

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Trezeguet not nailed and Joelinton just no

      1. Ostrich Baby
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Was wondering about Trezeguet - thought he's a risk, but should be starting ahead of El Ghazi and Jota? Was also tempted by McGinn, but not sure about his attacking threat.

        Joelinton will be the focal point for Newcastle, just come off a huge season in Bundesliga. Feel he's underpriced in the game.

  17. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    With Wilson in 442, who to pick?

    A. King
    B. Jota
    C. Deulofeu

    1. Liamkay7
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Jota for me

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Jota only 1 I'd get out of the 4

      1. Zebrahimović
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Europa though?

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Then none

  18. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    This picking a team malarky is quite tricky

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not if you’ve been doing it for weeks like us

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I'd have gone mad by now if I'd done that

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          After the first 10,000 drafts, I'm getting quite good at it.

        2. Some have over 100 pages of comments history in the last 30 days - in pre-season 😆

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            If you actually helped people you would too

    2. el polako
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Have a blue top, relax.

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      352 then adjust. The game is to fit in Kane, Sterling and Salah, but the sacrifices are too great. So then you choose 2, and it all becomes much simpler.

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Wise words

      2. HamezMace
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Did I see you’re going without Salah?

        May I ask how you came to the conclusion not to start with him instead of the other two?
        And do you plan to WC or transfer him in early on?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Yes.

          Sterling more explosive, better captain, imo. Kane must have, fixtures, no one else quite like him. Salah - doubts about fitness, hangover from CL, maybe.

          I am hoping not to WC.

          1. HamezMace
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            Thank you.
            Sorry for the delayed response.

            I also think Kane is more important to start the season with than Salah, but thought I was in the minority here.

      3. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers!

    4. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      It sure is.
      Just pick Salah Sterling Kane and a Liverpool defender, and then auto select the rest.

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Good idea. Done.

        1. HamezMace
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          You can PayPal me £5 whenever.

    5. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Found it quite easy,

      Ederson
      TAA VVD Laporte Digne
      Salah Sterling Zaha Perez
      King Jota

      1. UnluckyXI
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Pretty sure I've had that team at some point but now Digne worries me as the Everton's defence is in crisis with mina, gueye and zouma leaving/banned

  19. KingOllie
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Which combo is better?

    A) Fabianski + Lundstram
    B) Henderson + Fredericks(or Diop)

    If B then Henderson would blank gwk13

  20. Von Lipwig
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Any nailed 5m Mids?

    1. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      apart from Jorge

      1. ENZO SZN™
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Norwood (SHU) ?

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Norwood

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Capoue maybe?

    3. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A few. Kante, Jorginho, but the one most likely to do something FPLwise is Norwood.

  21. Zebrahimović
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Y'all are probably going to think this 442 team is proper template but any pointers would be very welcome at this stage in my draft. Cheers!

    Ederson
    VVD, Zinc, Robbo, Coleman
    Sterling Salah Siggy Perez
    Deulo King

    Button Dendoncker Kelly Greenwood

    1. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Deeney over Del for me

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Don't like either forwards or dirt cheap bench. No $ growth or transfer flexibility with the latter

      1. Zebrahimović
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Jota in for King and change Siggy to Fraser? Just a bit concerned with the Wolves players early in the season.

        1. ENZO SZN™
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          This. I think Wolves will do fine. At least for the Leicester game.

    3. WVA
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Downgrade Siggy

    4. OFord
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      You can't really improve on that, it's the template as you said. I've got pretty much the same team but have a 4.5 goalie and Wilson for King.

    5. OFord
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      & don't listen to people saying bench is too cheap

  22. AC Pilkington
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Which combo is best for the first two GWs?

    A) KDB, Trossard and Greenwood (3-5-2)

    B) Vardy, Gross and Dendonker (3-4-3)

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Greenwood will be essential or irrelevant

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Or, more likely, useful benchfodder, which is what always has been.

        OP - neither for me - those Brighton options leave me cold.

      2. Too Many Hits
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        B

        Don't think Greenwood is an option. Just like Hudson Odoi last year just because someone plays in pre-season doesn't make them a starter at the club

  23. Too Many Hits
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Best 4.5M Keepers?

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Pope, Ryan, Hendooo

  24. Tsparkes10
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Deeney or Delu is the question. Also like doucoure and Hughes but no room for another mid

    1. KingOllie
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      deeney imo

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Hopefully we can see both of them play together in pre season.

  25. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Is Ben Gibson likely to play? Seen him in a few RMTs now but history shows he hasn't played a lot?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Injured all last season and Boro were rubbish last time he played in PL

    2. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Gibson linked to Forrest, would worry me if I had him in my team.

  26. FC Hakkebøf
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    What would you do different here? 0.0 ITB

    Ederson
    Robertson TAA Digne Zinchenko Davies
    Salah Siggy Fraser
    Kane King

    Button Greenwood Dendoncker Hayden

    Would like to get KDB into the mix, but just Hurts the overall team too much imo. Considered Sterling over Salah, but the latter is back in training. Easy shift to Sterling from Salah in gw3 or from Kane to Aguero if need be. Thoughts?

    1. Too Many Hits
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Way too much spent on defence for me

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        I feel like the money is in the defence this year

        1. FC Hakkebøf
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          I dont really think about formation, I solely think of ppm... Then decide

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Peanuts. I've spent 42.5m.

        Excellent draft. Only way to get Sterling or Kev is to lose Kane, which I guess you don't want to do.

        1. Too Many Hits
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          What about weeks where Liverpool concede and Zinchenko is rotated. 5 defenders and a weak bench is risky business

          1. FC Hakkebøf
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            What about Weeks where No one concedes and you midpriced mids all blank?

        2. FC Hakkebøf
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Reluctant ... Had Sterling at first, but it came down to

          Perez + Sterling vs Kane + Fraser

          1. Christina.
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            if I get Kane I will have all of those...

            1. FC Hakkebøf
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 7 months ago

              Post team 🙂

              1. Christina.
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 7 months ago

                4.5
                TAA Digne ZZ WannaB
                Salah Sterling Fraser Perez Norwood
                Kane

                1. FC Hakkebøf
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 7 months ago

                  ZZ?

        3. FC Hakkebøf
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          @andy also like to have a premium forward in case Aguero/Auba starts firing.

          People tend to think that only Kane/Sterling/Salah are the premiums to go for, but that is not nessecarily the case

    2. ENZO SZN™
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Not sure with Davies. Poch like to rotate his fullbacks + Sessegnon.

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah im monitoring.. might put lloris in goal and switch Davies to Stones

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      What happens when you want to jump on a bandwagon with that bench? Oops. Money in defence but bandwagon is mid. That's 2 trades suddenly. 5 expensive defenders will not last long

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Don't need to Jump on bandwagons just for the sake of doing it, if IT means transfering out a defender that is better value

        1. FC Hakkebøf
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          Got Fraser and Siggy and if a mid proves better value, they are the ones to go

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A lot, to be honest. Something like this:

      GW1(3-5-2):

      Ederson
      van Dijk, Digne, Boly
      Salah, Fraser, Sigurdsson, Moura, Gundogan
      Kane, Origi

      Button; Calvert-Lewin, Lundstram, El Mohamady … 19/20, 0.0 ITB, TV: 100.0

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Funny guy! Ill bet you my team beats yours 😉

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 7 months ago

          OK. That's not my team, btw. Just trying to be helpful - sorry.

          1. FC Hakkebøf
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 7 months ago

            DCL, Origi and Gundogan :/?

  27. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Just looking at Dyabala's record last season

    5G 5A in 30 Serie A appearances (24 starts)

    I reckon Chris Wood/Ashley Barnes would give those stats a run for their money

    Granted the prior season he did a lot better

    1. KingOllie
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      he got played out of position the whole season to accommodate for ronaldo, he was basically a CM

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        Seemd to have played most games in either SS, AM, or RW

        That's not impressive output in my books - especially in a team as dominant as juve

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Dyabalacal

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 7 months ago

        If I could give this a +2 I would 🙂

    3. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Which team so you support mate?

  28. Winston.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    Repost (original by Chaballer);
    Reminder to all ”The Hall of Fame Top 1K” ranked managers - If you qualify, join the new league “Top 1K Career HOF” code = beeps2.

    1. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      How do you qualify for this?

  29. mike09
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    a) Fraser + Wilson
    b) Sane + King

    1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Definitely A

    2. Too Many Hits
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      A

  30. Miniboss
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 7 months ago

    How's this, gents?
    Pukki must be the puntiest choice, however he'll stay in my team as I'm a huge fan.

    Ryan
    Robbo TAA Digne
    Sterling Salah Siggy Zaha
    Wilson Pukki Nketiah

    Button Rico Targett Dendoncker

    1. Shankly611
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Starting Nketiah is a big no for me.

    2. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nketiah in the 11 is a big no

    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Nketiah? No way he starts, probably not Rico either

    4. Miniboss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks! Back to drawing board.