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The eighth and final Premier League match of a busy Saturday kicks off at 17:30 BST, with Liverpool the visitors to Turf Moor.

The team news is very straightforward as there is just one change to the starting XIs in all: Aaron Lennon (£4.9m) replacing the injured Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£6.0m) on the right flank for Burnley.

Jurgen Klopp names the same 11 players who lined up for the victory over Arsenal last Saturday.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) is the second-most-captained player of Gameweek 4, having been handed the armband by over one million FPL managers.

Liverpool put seven goals past the Clarets in their two meetings last season, with Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) scoring three of them.

The Reds are yet to keep a clean sheet this season, while Sean Dyche’s side recorded a shut-out in their only previous home league game this season: against Southampton in Gameweek 1.

Ashley Barnes (£6.7m) has scored in each of his three league appearances this season and was bought by over 250,000 Fantasy bosses in the build-up to Gameweek 4.

Liverpool’s Andrew Robertson (£6.9m) was the second-most-sold defender of this current Gameweek, having been offloaded by over 190,000 FPL managers.

Burnley XI: Pope; Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Pieters, Lennon, Cork, Westwood, McNeil, Barnes, Wood.

Liverpool XI: Adrían; Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum; Salah, Mané, Firmino.


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  1. Legohair
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Would you wc?

    Heaton-Button
    VvD-Zinchenko-AWB-KWP-Lundstram
    Salah-Sterling-Martial-Trossard-Dendo
    Kane-Pukki-Greenwood

    1. Peter Ouch
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No

      1. Legohair
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        What about kane&trossard to kdb&haller/abraham for a hit maybe?

        1. Peter Ouch
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Sounds good, still have plenty of time, you'll change your mind multiple times, don't panic

          1. Legohair
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            It just they're probably rising tonight,im just so angry because i didnt make wc last night, i already had trent, kdb and abraham in my team but i decided to wait....

  2. The Chosen One...
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Double cs with Adrian and TAA extra satisfying

    1. sovietrockettes
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Boom

  3. StayoutheSpiceZone
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Does anyone know if the bps will alter? Cheers

    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Literally no one

      1. StayoutheSpiceZone
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

  4. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Pope button
    Awb robbo digne lund Kelly
    Salah sterling dendo trossard mount
    Kane king greenwood

    1.7m itb
    Do I need to wc before price rises..Haller and cantwell I need who may rise today

  5. Cilly Bonnolly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Abraham or Haller on wildcard?

    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      If only 1 Tammy I reckon.

      1. Cilly Bonnolly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I'd like both but realistically it would mean Digne to a 4.6 and him and Alexander-Arnold are my only premium defenders. Don't really want to go to Trent and four cheapies.

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Haller

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Went Tammy...

    4. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I chose Haller (have Mount)

  6. EMBOLOFAN
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    5 clean sheets. premium defence gang

    1. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Only 4 CS league wide so far, thats not many. Too risky to base your strategy on CSs every week.

    2. FPL Scoop
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Zinch TAA VVD lovely to look at, and Digne to come.

      Shame about Pukki Sterling(c) Mount though lol

    3. teddypicker
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      2 liverpool, 2 city and... Masuaku?

  7. FPL Scoop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Get in the BAPS Virg!

  8. Yank Revolution
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    38 pts (46, -8), Digne left to play. New additions KDB and Haller score...

    1. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Ummm...well done?

      1. Yank Revolution
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, its a classic Rough/Smooth week.

    2. StayoutheSpiceZone
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not bad I don’t think, funny week

  9. teddypicker
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Ffs now Mane is never giving the ball to Salah again

    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      He never does

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Agree

      2. MITHRRANDIRR
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Who passed to Salah for him to hit the post in the first half?

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Touché

  10. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    I want a camera man to go inside the changing room I want to see moreeee

    1. MTPockets
      6 years, 11 months ago

      filthy

    2. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Pervert

    3. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Peeper

  11. Zilla
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    they kept a cs :O

  12. Pigeon
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Guys, how did Emerson play?

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Doesnt matter how he played if his team mates are rubbish

      1. Pigeon
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Like was he getting into the box, crossing much etc.

  13. S.Kuqi
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Mane owners keeping him or switching to Salah?

    1. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      So difficult - had planned to swap and captain Salah against Newcastle. Might still do it - pens may tip it in Mo's favour

  14. Maddamotha
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Pope should have 6 saves

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Wijnaldum didn't shoot

  15. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Adrian and Firmino. I’ll take that and run 🙂

  16. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Defense of TAA, VVD, Zinc and Kelly worked out.

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Laporte always the better option over an uncertain Zinc...

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Thats what I thought 🙁

      2. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Hehe

  17. Nightcrawler
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    First game without a pool defender and they get a clean sheet. No luck

    1. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sorry but that was given. Like newcastle also will be. Chelsea tougher but then shu.

  18. dshv
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    43 points and digne to play.. bad right :(((

    1. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      About average

    2. StayoutheSpiceZone
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No it’s fine

    3. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No!

    4. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I haven't reached 30 yet.

    5. Andy'81
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I've seen worse, could be around the average mark so certainly no disaster.

    6. Jack Burton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I'm on 54 and looks like I'm dropping at 500000

  19. Ginkapo FPL
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Salah has always had a problem with Mane ever since Sadio started matching his goal tally. Salah has an ego problem whereby he needs to the biggest fish in the pond.

    1. Nightcrawler
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Exactly

      This is what stops him from being as good as kdb aguero kane

  20. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Bobby 3
    Trent 2
    VVD 1
    ---
    Mane tackled 5 times.

    After all that, Mane only outscores Salah by 2...

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Don't forget game winning goal bonus though

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        OG so don't think anyone gets it.

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Wood is well down the BPS.

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Heh

  21. ameisin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Wilson OUT for who?
    A) Haller
    B) Abraham
    C) Barnes
    D) other

    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      A

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      D) Keep

    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      B

    4. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      B

    5. Peter Ouch
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Keep bmouth good fixtures

      1. ameisin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Fixtures are good, but just can't see them scoring many.

        Price is dropping too.

  22. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Why is Kelly flagged? Chuffed I started him today, the upside to having a dirt cheap defense lol

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Came off on 80ish minutes - potential injury. International Break coming at a good time, but Tomkins may be back anyway.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Who drops first, him or Cahill?

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Cahill has had a MOTM performance, experience etc. Kelly a decent deputy but never 1st choice.

          I don't know 100% but Cahill likely to keep the place? Guess it half depends on how fit Tomkins is & who is the preferred partner anyway.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Makes sense, thanks.

  23. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Only 1 defeat in 42 league games which was to City but still haven't won the league. Crazy.

    1. Seb Wassell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Shows how good City are.

  24. Yippeekiyay Mertersacker
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Day of the Forwards: today many of them reminded us that they are the primary source of goals...

    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Maybe yours did.....

    2. Skalla
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Not my forwards...

    3. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Said it before, people will be back to good old 343 soon

    4. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Yup! Kane's turn tomorrow 😉

    5. Yippeekiyay Mertersacker
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Nah none of mine did either, I was actually pretty cheesed off. I played all 5 of my 'attacking midfielders/ wingers / outside forwards' and of course they only managed one goal between themselves...

  25. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    This isn't a bad team on paper, right?

    Pope
    VVD / Digne / AWB
    Salah / Sterling / KDB / Cantwell
    Pukki / Barnes / Jota

    Button // Kelly / Dendoncker / Montoya

    Captaincy flunks hiting blows to the rank & elsewhere, just getting unlucky. Plan to do AWB to TAA (for free). No Wildcard needed, right?

    1. Skalla
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No WC needed , good team!

    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      No wc but Jota out soon

    3. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Absolutely
      Very good team bro

  26. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Has there ever been 2 better players than Mo and Sadio who had this 'no passing to each other' issue? It's bizarre tbh. Am sure rivalry has a limit when you play for the same team.

    1. Marvin.
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Robben and Ribery I believe.

    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Blame Salah. He wouldn't pass to Firmino either

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Sheringham Cole didn’t get on, but still passed to each other, and in fairness, you’d have to say they were good for their era

    4. Podge
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Cantona hates Andy Cole I believe

      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Hated

      2. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Cantona is a legend in all aspects of life.

  27. Don Rogers FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    So is that a new club record for Liverpool in the PL or a new club record full stop?

    1. Zilla
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Pool

      1. Don Rogers FC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        ?

    2. Licky
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I think it matches their previous record (pre PL).

    3. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Liverpool for sure, Fergie's boys likely have better.

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Surely not? Fergie side always loved a random shock defeat

      2. Don Rogers FC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        Not interested in that, i’m Sure Arsenal did better as well.

    4. Marvin.
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Club record.

      1. Don Rogers FC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        So beats Shankley and paisley ?

        1. FPLtfs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          yeah

    5. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      City have the record. 18 games iirc

    6. Don Rogers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      So can anyone actually answer the question?

      Let me ask it a little more precisely than last time.

      Is 13 winning league matches in a row Liverpool’s record since the formation of the premier league, or since the club was formed.

      1. Marvin.
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        CLUB RECORD

        1. Don Rogers FC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks Marcin, I realise that you did say that already, but assume now that you mean ‘all time’

          In which case I am very impressed.

          1. Don Rogers FC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Sorry, Marvin.

          2. Marvin.
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            I agree it is quite surprising. Saying that I'm pretty sure back in the day teams would win the league having lost more games than you would think. You would need to fact check that though.

      2. FPLtfs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        all time club record.

        1. Don Rogers FC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 11 months ago

          Always annoys m when they quite ‘records’ , but only mean Premier league.

          1. Yank Revolution
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 11 months ago

            Any record should be denoted to Premier League Era only, or not.

            1. Marvin.
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              Controversial. Expect some backlash to this mate.

              1. Yank Revolution
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 11 months ago

                Huh? Why? All time means, literally "since the founding of the club to present". Premier League only records are for a short period of a few decades and should be viewed accordingly for context.

                1. Marvin.
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 11 months ago

                  Because if we consider the PL to be a different competition to the old 1st division then, for instance Liverpool would have never won the league. Whereas if we don't then they have won it 18 times.

                  1. Yank Revolution
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 11 months ago

                    But its the truth!! "Liverpool have 18 titles, but none in the Premier League era." See? That fully describes their accomplishments and lack thereof, doesn't it?

                    1. Marvin.
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 11 months ago

                      I suppose it does.

                      1. Yank Revolution
                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 11 months ago

                        I can see where people might get a little upset when saying, "Team X is garbage, they've never won anything!" to wind people up, without knowing the team's history (Team X won 3 titles in the 1930's!)...But, then again, that history is so long ago, that it matters little today, though still nice to have on the resume (even if it is a very long time ago).

                      2. Marvin.
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 11 months ago

                        Also when people say "never won the premier league". It's really the same competition they just changed the name and reduced the number of teams.

            2. Don Rogers FC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 11 months ago

              Agreed. However, I’m a bit old school and a record should be a record, the premier league or old first division should be irrelevant. Only money wants to denote a premier league record.

              1. Yank Revolution
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 11 months ago

                Only to let people know that its a 'lesser' record (Prem only) as compared to All time, which is since the club has been playing competitively till today.

                1. Don Rogers FC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  6 years, 11 months ago

                  I’d rather they only stated absolute records. But in the context of where we have got to it would be churlish not to agree with you. Cheers.

                  1. Yank Revolution
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 11 months ago

                    Yeah, if anything Prem only records mean LESS than All Time records, for the most part (not in every case, of course). Another solution is to just say 1st Division/Prem as "the same thing", meaning the accomplishment (record) context means "top league in the nation".

    7. Don Rogers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Quite surprised however that Paisley Did n’t beat that.

  28. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    KWP & Martial > VVD & Mount (-4) paid off, by a massive 2 points

    Lundstram/Cantwell would have came in for 3 points vs VVD/Mounty’s 9 -4

    Rock n Roll

  29. rjcv177
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Trying to save WC, and end up with 2FT.
    As much as i want to change i believe they have good fixtures next week.
    Can u guys help me out

    Ryan
    Vvd, digne, awb
    Salah (c), sterling, kdb, trossard, mcginn
    Rashf, pukki

    Lundstram, greenwood, rico

  30. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 11 months ago

    Sterling -> KDB will be a popular move to fund bringing in Aguero

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      You think?

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      Wouldn’t be queuing up to do that meself now tbh

    3. jia you
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 11 months ago

      I hope you're taking the piss but I've seen such noob remarks from posters on here with 8s n 9s after their names that I wouldn't be surprised!

      1. Don Rogers FC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 11 months ago

        I agree with Maximus. Stick to a game plan. Sterling looks likely to play 90 mins in most games. He will score a lot more points.

        KDB taken off at 70 today and Kun will be rotated to some degree with Jesus when he Is back ( next game)