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Newcastle United 1 Watford 1

Goals: Fabian Schär (£5.0m) | Will Hughes (£5.5m)

Assists: Isaac Hayden (£4.5m)

Bonus: Hughes x3, Hayden x2, Ben Foster (£4.9m) x2

Watford earned their first point of the season with a draw at Newcastle light on both consistent attacking quality and significant Fantasy impact.

Will Hughes (£5.5m) gave the visitors the lead after just two minutes and the Hornets held out until close to half-time before Fabian Schär (£5.0m) swept home Isaac Hayden‘s (£4.5m) knock–down.

Replays showed that the ball came off Hayden’s arm and the goal should have been chalked off, but the decision stood as VAR continued its mystifyingly inconsistent start to the season.

And, in truth, a draw was all that Watford deserved from a game in which coach Javi Gracia opted for pragmatism over progressiveness in a bid to halt his side’s three-match losing streak in the league.

Gracia left Deulofeu on the bench for the trip to Newcastle

Gracia made his intentions clear in his starting line-up, consigning striker Gerard Deulofeu (£6.3m) to the bench and fielding three centre-halves and a lone striker in a team set up to drop deep, absorb pressure and play on the counter–attack.

The Spaniard, found in 2.9% of Fantasy Premier League squads, is Watford’s most popular asset, but he has lost close to half of his Gameweek 1 ownership and an eight-minute cameo at St James’ Park will do little to halt that decline.

At least Hughes (0.3%) has offered attacking returns, figuring in both goals the Hornets have so far managed this season.

The midfielder followed up his assist in last week’s 3-1 loss to West Ham United by finding the net when Tom Cleverley‘s (£4.9m) shot was deflected into his path.

Watford have struggled to offer much attacking threat so far this season

Hughes’ effort was one of only three shots on target for the visitors, while Andre Gray (£5.9m) and Kiko Femenia (£4.5m) both missed good chances on the break before Newcastle equalised and then took control of the game in the second half.

Not that the Magpies were overly impressive going forward themselves.

Both sides had 13 attempts, eight of which were in the area respectively, and created a chance every 7.4 minutes.

The home team did manage two more shots on target than Watford, forcing Ben Foster (£4.9m) into some smart work to deny both Miguel Almirón (£5.9m) and Hayden in a performance that earned the goalkeeper two bonus points.

But Newcastle’s lack of an end product – three goals from four matches – means their attacking assets remain attractive to only the most tribal, or wilfully optimistic, of Fantasy managers.

Almirón’s efforts called Ben Foster into action in Gameweek 4

Manager Steve Bruce’s plans were hampered by injuries to wide men Matt Ritchie (£5.5m) and Allan Saint-Maximin (£5.4m), meaning first starts for Christian Atsu (£5.4m) and Jetro Willems (£4.5m).

That did little to improve the supply line to striker Joelinton (£5.9m), who was the match-winner in Gameweek 3’s surprise victory over Spurs.

The Brazilian could not muster a single shot on target against Watford, his two attempts matched by defenders Schär and Craig Dawson (£5.0m).

At least Hayden produced a first return of the season for his 5.7% ownership – the joint-highest figure among Newcastle players alongside centre-half Jamaal Lascelles (£4.5m) – although that popularity is most likely down to his bargain bucket pricing in FPL.

Fabian Schär showed his aerial threat once again, scoring Newcastle’s only goal against Watford

And Schär’s goal again demonstrated his attacking potential, having scored four times, and provided one assist, last season.

The Swiss international, however, was substituted after 84 minutes as a precautionary measure, according to Bruce.

“He was feeling not great at half-time and had dizziness in spells, which was a bit of a concern, and in the end he wasn’t great when I spoke to him in a water break when one of the players was injured. There was a sort of vacancy about him, so I hope he’s okay. We’ll see how he is. He was not feeling well, he was just complaining to the doctor about being dizzy, and that was at half-time.” – Steve Bruce

Schär is still expected to join up with the Switzerland squad, but even without an international break to stall our Fantasy dealings, there is likely to be no rush to acquire assets from either side any time soon.

Watford will face Arsenal and Manchester City over the next two Gameweeks, with tricky trips to Wolves and Spurs just round the corner as well.

And the Magpies have to play Liverpool, Leicester City and Manchester United before the second round of international fixtures rears its ugly head in early October.

For once, country before club could work in both managers’ favour, buying them some much-needed time to work on the deficiencies, both defensive and attacking, hampering their respective sides.

Gracia is certainly hoping the enforced break can be a force for good.

“Last season we started really well, this season the first four games we have only got one point. Now we have a break and it’s a good time to work and prepare better for the next game.” – Javi Gracia

Newcastle, with four points from their last two outings, are clearly in a better place than Watford.

But as things stand, neither set of players currently represent much Fantasy fruit worth picking.

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Newcastle United XI (5-4-1): Dúbravka; Willems, Dummett, Lascelles, Schär (Fernández 85′), Krafth (Manquillo 78′); Atsu (Muto 82′), S Longstaff, Hayden, Almirón; Joelinton.

Watford XI (3-4-2-1): Foster; Cathcart, Kabasele, Dawson; Femenia, Cleverley, Doucouré (Chalobah 71′), Janmaat; Pereyra, Hughes (Success 71′); A Gray (Deulofeu 82′).

Lessons learned from Gameweek 4

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  1. Mario Balofail
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Remember Sterling for 4.5 at Liverpool?

    1. Efan Ekoku Pops
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I remember Kane was 4.4 for Spurs

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Vardy 6.0
      Mahrez 5.5
      Ighalo 6.0
      Alli 5.0

      All in the same season

      1. Whats the Huth
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ighalo
        Loved that fella. I jumped on him from the start - stormed me up the ranking, then Vardy and co started firing.
        Was my first ever season playing FF and finished top 300

        Never finished in the top 10k since haha

  2. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Pepe and Auba will break the template this week.

    1. AuFeld
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A major haul by PEA or Pepe is required to break the template. You'd also need Sterling and Salah to blank vs some easy opposition.

      1. Markus
        • 17 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Pepe more so. A 12 pointer while one of Salah Sterling only get 6 would suffice to change things up...

      2. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        not impossible. Sterling blanked last week.

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      the former cant kick a ball, latter a striker playing out wide

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        buggumarked

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Would absolutely love to see a Pepe hat-trick this weekend. I think I'm committed to this bandwagon and will see it through for at least two weeks.

          1. Christina.
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Im rooting for you.

    3. The_Fish
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      What's the current template?

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Pukki, Haller, Barnes

    4. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      id love auba in my team but this would mean no aguero...

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I have both. But then again I have balls.

        😉

        1. AuFeld
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I'm jealous.

        2. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          who did you sacrifice ?

          1. Christina.
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Heaton
            TAA Dunk Lundy
            Sterling Mane Mcginn Cantwell
            Kun Pukki Auba

            Donkey Kelly Soy

            1. Ajax Hamsterdam
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              ok. thanks

    5. Whats the Huth
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      And this is why it is worth holding onto wildcard,
      in case template breaks

      1. Whats the Huth
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I'd go top heavy if I WC

        Vardy, Auba and Kun

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        This is a total myth imo. If your team is in need of a wildcard do it. If the template breaks what then ? Follow the new one and get the same range of points as the majority? The way to push up the ranks is to be non template.

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          tell them slouchy

          Be ahead of the curve...eg Pukki...Kun...Hauler

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            You still are ahead of the curve , the curve has caught up with my bunch which now looks template. Need to make things more exciting again.

            1. Whats the Huth
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              mine is Vardy and Pukki.

              Not sure it is template

              I want Auba. Thinking of selling a big hitter in mid to allow this and go top three heavy

            2. Valar(Keith)
              • 17 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              I know what you mean. I enjoyed life when kdb, pukki were all mine. Shame that Jota, Perez, King, donkey, Kane, Robinson were all mine too

              1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                🙂

        2. EMBOLOFAN
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          disagree. early on building tv and staying with pack important as 3-4 games isnt enough to make big judgement calls with much degree of confidence. players become “template” after one haul and its hard to make the case for players performing well in underlying terms as the sample size is so small

          later in season playing chips well, managing fixtures + having use of a bigger data set will set apart those who know what theyre doing from those that dont

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Who sets "the template" though ?
            Is it set by a few on here who the majority latch onto and keep quoting a selective number of players as the "must haves" creating the usual herd mentality ?
            What if you are ahead of the pack already by being non template ?

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              read my post again i answered almost all of this. by defending “template” i just mean to infer that early bandwagons are fairly easy to justify relative to taking random punts on non-bandwagons

              1. EMBOLOFAN
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                later on in season when we’ve seen more of players/teams its much easier to make informed decisions about overlooked players

              2. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                I've read it 5 times already . There are as many early bandwagons that go south as there ones that come off.
                Equally why should punts on non bandwagons be classed as random ?

      3. Krionos
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        If you're always scrambling for players to get the template, you will always be behind in the points.

  3. Lestat
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Wildcard team..

    A)
    Pope – Button
    Digne – Zinchenko – Trent – Dunk – Lundstrum
    Salah – DeBruyne – Sterling – Mount – Cantwell
    Pukki – Haller – Greenwood

    OR

    B)
    Pope – Button
    SOYUNCU – Zinchenko – Trent – Dunk – Lundstrum
    Salah – DeBruyne – Sterling – MCGINN – Cantwell
    Pukki – Haller – BARNES

    0.4M In the bank

    I am currently on A but B is tempting to have Barnes ahead of Greenwood.

    Which team is better?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A but with Soyuncu over Dunk?

      1. Lestat
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        brighton have better defence than leicester and dunk is a threat from set pieces

    2. Kuzser
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      a

  4. Markus
    • 17 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    4.5m 4.5m 4m
    Salah Mane KDB Dilva 4.5m
    Aguero Firmino

    Wildcard anyone?! Just about doable!

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      dont do this

    2. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      But still no Sterling

  5. cescpistols1
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Best replacements for Jota + Perez? (12.7m total)

    Heaton Button
    Robbo Digne Aarons Lowton Lundstram
    Sterling Mane (c) Mount Perez Dendoncker
    Kane (v) Haller Jota

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      McGinn and Barnes?

    2. Kuzser
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Same question below mate. I think Mcginn or Seballos(if only he was nailed) and Barnes

  6. The 5% Team
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A. but with Barnes instead of Pukki

    1. The 5% Team
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      reply fail to Labore

  7. Trippier Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Sorry to keep harping on about this, but the 'FPL Price Updates' table on right margin of this site is infrequently updated. It was updated daily last season - can the mods please keep this up to date?

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      HT's

    2. The 5% Team
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      would agree. It's there for a reason

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        why is it even there?

        🙄

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Geez, Mount and Pope to rise again?

          1. The 5% Team
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            they did last night yeah...those 2 and Zinch as well

    3. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like it's stopped automatically updating or something - we'll make sure it get fixed, but don't know enough to promise any more!

  8. Pompel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Triple City attack Sterling + KDB + Kun too much ? :

    Kane + McGinn -> Kun(c) + Hayden/Stephens

    Chasing points, I know, but still tempting 🙂

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Do it. You'll be smiling all season.

      1. Pompel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Could lose KDB or Sterling to Dilva , though, to have a more balanced squad.

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Dilva will become a rotation risk when season gets busier. easier to downgrade then than try to upgrade.

    2. Roy Rovers
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Enjoying....Ederson, KDB and Kun since start of season!

      1. Pompel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ederson safe choice, but surely better value goalkeepers

        1. Roy Rovers
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          City def rotated a lot and not even got to Europe....Ederson best and only secure way into their defence.

  9. Mozart_s Balls
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    WC active, here's my first draft:

    Pope - 4.0
    Matip - Zinchenko - Lundstram - Masuaku - Mings
    Salah - Sterling - Mount - James - Guendouzi
    Aguero - Barnes - Pukki

    Thoughs? Is my defence really that terrible? RMT tool seems to think it is (overall value way lower than original team, although w. Aguero etc..)

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      feels unbalanced to be honest. aguero AND sterling is too much imo, i d have kdb instead of one of them

      1. WVA
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        This, KDB over Sterling

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Drop one of Mount or James and beef up a defender or downgrade Kun and upgrade one of those two mids to KDB?

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      No TAA - arguably best value player this season.

    4. Roy Rovers
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Zinc > Otamendi

    5. Mozart_s Balls
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers for input guys appreciate it.

  10. Viper
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Which looks better? (2Fts)

    A. Salah & Jota - > Mané & Haller

    B. Montoya & Jota - > Lundstram & Barnes

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B by several country miles. Madness to lose Salah ahead of Newcastle.

      1. WVA
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Mane has scored way more goals than Salah this year and is superior at home

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Points per game?

        2. Pompel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          If counting last season, yes, but less assists, and then he was considerably cheaper. I think pens swings it in Salah's favour this season. Depends which other biggies one have, ofc

    3. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Who do you most want - Haller or Barnes?
      Would pick whatever option applies

      1. DontPiqueTooSoon
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I prefer Haller over Barnes. West Ham attacking threat and their fixture run look promising. I feel Haller could see rapid price rise with a few more goals.

  11. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Desperate to squeeze Aubamayang in, how does this look? 0.4 ITB for James to Tielemans in a couple of weeks.

    Pope
    TAA Digne Ming's Aaron's
    Mane KDB Mount James
    Aguero Aubamayang
    Button Lundstram Hayden Greenwood

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      get Pukki or Cantwell in there.

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Pukki imo

    2. Kuzser
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      could work actually. Although Barnes can easily match Auba with that run of fixtures

    3. The 5% Team
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      yeah not bad at all

      maybe have Diop over Aarons

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Different. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I prefer Pepe over Auba for Arsenal coverage.

      James + Auba > Pukki + Pepe
      Hayden > Cantwell

      You seem convinced on Mane over Salah. Go for it. Not for me. I don't think I can use the 1.0m better considering the difference in points between the two.

  12. Kuzser
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Does that Team
    1. need a WC
    2. sort Perez and Jota for -4 (budget 12.8) to
    a) Mcginn/Seballos and Abraham/Barnes
    b) Cantwell and Haller

    Heaton (pope)
    Robbo vvd lundstram digne (Soyncu)
    Salah sterling KDB perez (dendo)
    Pukky jota (greenwood)

    1. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      1. Not unless you want to make fundamental changes
      2. both options look ok, depends whether you're happy with cantwell/dendoncker as 4th mid

    2. DontPiqueTooSoon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      1. No
      2. Tough choice. I prefer Haller but overall looking longer-term probably Ceballos & Barnes

  13. Cruyff's Eleven
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Is there a specific reason why Jiminez is out of favour compared to Haller, Barnes and Abraham?

    1. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Points per £, and Europa

    2. FeverPitch
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Jiminez and C Wilson are both great picks imo - I think they’ll slowly prove to be better picks than the current favourites over the next few weeks/months

      1. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, I feel that too - I feel swapping Jimi for one of the flavours of the month like a sideways move......

        Europe looms though, agree with that.....

      2. The Left Duke #3
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I really like Callum Wilson. 3 A's & 1 G so far is a good return and he's the focal point of attack.

        I had Jota for the first 3 GW's and just feel him like Jimenez are an Avoid due to fixture congestion with the Europa League. We've seen it time and again with the Thurs night then Sunday fixture

        1. FeverPitch
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah europa reasoning is fair. I sold Jota too. Just feel like Jiminez has the class to keep ticking along, although a form option may well prove a good transfer for a while. But yeah, Wilson is staying in my team for sure, attacking return in every game so far and dropped 0.2...

  14. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Not sure i need to do a wildcard here so might just do a -4 for Laporte & Lanzini > Ota /Kolasinac & D Silva.

    Heaton / Button

    VVD / Digne / Laporte* / Rico / Montyoa

    Salah / Sterling / Mount / Lanzini * / Dendonker

    Kane / Pukki / Greenwood

    Thoughts?

  15. gellinmagellan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    RMT (on a WC)
    Pope Button
    TAA Zinchenko Dunk Lundstram Rico
    Salah KDB Sterling Trossard Cantwell
    Barnes Pukki Haller

    (Not sure about no premium forward though :/)

  16. jtreble
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Do we have any indication of how long KWP will be out?

  17. Aadii
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Might return after the int break. But will lose 0.1 by tomorrow.

  18. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Looks like none of my players are facing the price drop later. Thank heavens. Keep it up boys!

  19. FeverPitch
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on AWB and Robertson to TAA and Otamendi for a -4? Hits for defenders obviously not great, but would be priced out of these moves with a TAA rise. Also Newcastle’s left flank looks a lot worse than their right statistically...

    1. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Hit + internationals = no for me. But I'm sure many would

      1. FeverPitch
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah sensible... thanks

  20. HurriKane
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    So currently this is how the template looks like. Very balanced with good fixtures for all.

    Pope 4.0
    TAA Digne 4.5 (4.5 4.0)
    Salah Sterling KDB Mount (Cantwell)
    Pukki Haller Barnes

    Howver If one of auba/kane starts going on a crazy run of form who would you sacrifice from midfeild big 3? (salah/kdb/sterling)

    Surely we wont go entire season without a premium striker

    1. james 101
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Kun...

      1. HurriKane
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Kun is great option . My only worry is bald fraud managing his minuites with jesus when champions league starts

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I think he will still be fine for Nor. Easy to swap out with 2 Ft's.

          1. HurriKane
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Sure. Im one of the biggest kun fans and talked him up really big before last gw. Still feel that kdb will offer better value

            Opted for Kdb Haller TAA over Kun Lanzini AWB/Zinch

            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              yep looking to get KdB soon. Kun will have to do for now though.

    2. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm on 2 x premium strikers at the moment. Hope to save a trade this gw and be ready to switch to the above in 2 weeks if things change....or go big in def.

    3. jtreble
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      “... Surely we wont go entire season without a premium striker ...”. That’s what the math says to do.

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        thing is it's still early days and the rank are very congested at the moment...if you get a (c) call on correct on a premium striker and the likes of Sterling/Salah fail it's a massive swing. Just look at last week with Kun(c).

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          The EO of sterling/Salah is massive every week. If you bet against them and get it right you smile...risky though.

        2. HurriKane
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yh budget strikers are in form right now but dont expect them to main that level of consistency.

          However if premiums are in form and get going they could go on a really explosive run . if you anticipate and get them earlier you will shoot up the rankings

          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            “explosive runs” are mostly explained by fixtures and coincidence. the top 2 have premium options in midfield. no reason to concern yourself with premium strikers unless something unusual happens

            1. HurriKane
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Yh for now we can relax but no harm in expecting the unexpected and having a strategy in place to react quickly incase of such event 😉

            2. Pompel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              THere's no discriminating between premium mids or strikers in this respect. The thing is, if you have more than three, the captaincy factors are diluted, and those explosions have to be nuclear to provide value over a spread of funds to in-for mid priced assets

        3. Roy Rovers
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yep....480,000 > 90,000

          1. HurriKane
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Well done lad.

        4. EMBOLOFAN
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          betting against last seasons two highest scorers on a consistent basis, what could possibly go wrong?

          1. Christina.
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            no one said you need to do it for 38 weeks.

            It worked in week 2 with Mane/Pukki. It worked last week with Kun. Besides, you can still own those players and gamble with (c).

            1. EMBOLOFAN
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              there are not many gw’s in which the highest expected points will come from a player other than salah or sterling, and if they do it will be from kane/auba and probably marginal. using ft’s to change team structure to accomodate for that is prob not optimal, and owning 3+ premiums isnt good value per mill

              prefer to find an edge on making good decisions not bad ones (and hoping to be lucky)

              1. Christina.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Marginal? Kun(c) swing last week was 13 pts alone vs Sterling. Ask me. I capt Sterling.

                Each to their own I guess. I've played for 12 yrs, and have always fallen short of top 1k. I found its easy to get a top 10k finish. Beyond that its luck and gamble/gut.

          2. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            He didn't say on a consistent basis.

      2. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        What maths ?

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          6+9=69

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            +42

        2. EMBOLOFAN
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          points per million based on last season primarily

        3. jtreble
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          See FFS Hedge two-part article.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            The point is that you are not necessarily maximising returns over short periods of gameweeks. There are opportunities where premium strikers will score higher than similarly priced premium mids. It is getting these decisions right which affects your OR.

            1. jtreble
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Sure, you can always bet against the house and win. Over the long-run, however, this becomes increasingly difficult.

            2. EMBOLOFAN
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              such as when? based on this seasons fixtures

              1. Christina.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                what is your pts/rank currently?

                1. EMBOLOFAN
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  not as high as yours (as of gw4) but finished top 150 last year. sorry you find my simple question hard to answer

                  1. George Sillett
                    • 10 Years
                    7 years, 1 month ago

                    Finishing top 150 last year has no bearing on this year.

                    1. EMBOLOFAN
                      • 8 Years
                      7 years, 1 month ago

                      does when u indulge in 50iq version of “socratic” method of answering question with question

                      1. EMBOLOFAN
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 1 month ago

                        u are well aware of what christinas question implied

                      2. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 1 month ago

                        I implied nothing. I was interested to know where you are currently ranked and how you plan to move up the OR if you follow the template and just do what everyone else does(a week later)

                        No biggy. I have to run. Beer to drink.

                  2. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    7 years, 1 month ago

                    excuse me? what question? I think you are getting me and Slouchy mixed up. I will give you a tip..I'm the pretty one.

                    Well done with your 150 OR. I will give anything for that.

              2. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 1 month ago

                I can't be arsed to look through to the end of the season right now . It is pointless anyway as there is a need to pick a premium in form at the time. But there will be opportunities.

                1. EMBOLOFAN
                  • 8 Years
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  form mostly combination of fixtures and coincidence. u can plan for former, latter affects all premiums equally

    4. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm playing my wildcard and have 5 of your named starters in my squad. Good to see i resist the template.

  21. ADucksBehind
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Hows this for a WC team?

    Pope

    Matip Digne Lowton

    Sterling KDB Mane Cantwell

    Aguero Pukki Barnes

    Bench: Lundstram, Kelly, Guendouzi

    1. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Similar to what I'm considering

    2. Whats the Huth
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      fairly template

      1. The Left Duke #3
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        really

  22. Nick.P
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this WC Team?

    3-4-3

    Pope - Button
    TAA, Digne, Zinck, - Lundstrum, Kelly
    Salah, Sterling, De Bruyne, Mcginn - Dendonk
    Haller, Pukki, Barnes

    Cant afford to upgrade Dendonk to Cantwell.
    Leaves 0.1 in the bank...

    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 17 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'd swap zinc for soy and upgrade mcginn, donks to tross/mount /James and cantwell

  23. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Prefer to keep WC for another month at least

    Who would you rather out of this lot?
    Kane King AWB or Kun Barnes Lundstram

    Will assess after intl break. Could also do Auba instead of Kun with their very kind fixtures

    1. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      latter

  24. james 101
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    If you have / had both who would you cap?

    A. Kun
    B. Sterling

    1. james 101
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Cap poor looks biased towards ownership. Maybe I’m wrong.

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        *poll

    2. tyron
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Kun playing 3 days before norwich in Kompany testimonial

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        But hopefully managed mins...?

      2. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Sterling playing four days before Norwich in competitive England international, not sure what your point is?

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Have both, capping Kun

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Likewise

    4. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Aguero doesn’t score goals away from the Etihad

  25. Riverside Red
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    How useful is the player comparison tool..just evaluated TAA vs Mount. Mount scores higher in more key areas..is this a fair comparison

    1. tyron
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      But will he vs wolves and liverpool

    2. Whats the Huth
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      just watch him

      Mount is gold

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah. I just brought him in

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Well you're comparing an attacking full back to an attacking midfielder, so you'd expect Mount to come out on top in several areas, but its worth noting TAA's xA, final third touches etc are higher, and he'll pick up an additional four points every time Liverpool keep a clean sheet.

  26. tyron
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    So aguero and silva playing in kompany testimonial 3 days before norwich doesn't bother anyone?

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds good to me owning neither.

      1. james 101
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ha

    2. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'd be more concerned owning players involved in competitive internationals.

    3. The 5% Team
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      it's a testimonial tho

  27. ElliotJHP
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you have in draft for the season? Siggy or Mahrez?

    1. JBG
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Siggy

  28. Stimps
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    How's this WC lookin folks?

    Pope
    TAA Digne Lundstram
    Salah Sterling KDB Mount
    Barnes Haller Pukki

    4.0 Hayden Lowton Kelly

    1. JBG
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty template, maybe Soyuncu over Lowton and Dendoncker over Hayden.

    2. Steiger
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Template team, looks good.

    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Very dull

  29. KennyKickIt127
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Not really pulling the trigger but was feeling bored and playing around with my team and I came up with this:

    My current team is (with 0.7 ITB and 1 FT):

    Pope Heaton
    AWB Dunk Diop Boly Lund
    Sterling Salah KDB Martial Dendonkey
    Pukki King Haller

    Playing around with the team I find I can actually get this side out for 0.0ITB

    Pope Button
    Soyuncu Dunk Diop Lund Kelly
    Sterling KDB Son James Dendonkey(or other 4.5)
    Aguero Auba Ayew

    Considering the fixtures going forward, could be a very big differential to have Son and Auba as well as 3 City .... or could still get Mane instead of Sterling?

    Thoughts on this? Would any of you play a WC? I actually wasn't considering a WC so soon into the season, but this is very tempting!

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      That defence would concern me every week whichever ones you play. Would rethink with at least TAA as a defensive premium.

      1. KennyKickIt127
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, but I would rotate and there hasn't really been convincing defensive displays by any team this season to justify spending 6.5-7.0m on a defender?

        I take what your saying though! Could do Mane for Sterling and Greenwood for Ayew and maybe get one good defender in?

        Are there any changes you would make to the attack?

    2. Nightcrawler
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Honestly I'd rather have the first team right now

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe downgrade martial and upgrade awb

        Give king another week

        1. KennyKickIt127
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah tbh ... the more realistic change I was thinking of doing James in for martial and to spend the excess elsewhere....which defender though? Walker or TAA?

    3. StinkinRich
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Lack of Liverpool is a rank killer when they do well, which they inevitably will

      1. KennyKickIt127
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah valid point, but I can easily integrate or have Liverpool players (like suggested above), I can do Mane instead of Sterling and upgrade a defender, Or I can do Lacazette instead of Auba and have TAA at the back.....any other options/suggestions welcome?.....I'm really just trying to keep myself busy, won't act on it for now, just wanna keep active on the Fantasy during the international break!

  30. Wheato182
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Worth taking Kane out for a hit to get Salah in?

    1. Nightcrawler
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Probably not. Do u have sterling?

      1. Wheato182
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I'd just captain sterling then. If shipping Kane is the only way u can get salah I'd wait until after the pool face chelsea to get him