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14 September 2019 1598 comments
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Rotation inspired by the Champions League has finally arrived in the Premier League as Liverpool host Newcastle this afternoon.

Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) has fallen foul of it at Anfield, dropping to the bench with Divock Origi (£5.4m) leading the Reds’ line. Perhaps that is no surprise as the Brazilian was in action for his country in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Ahead of a packed fixture list with seven games in 21 days, Jurgen Klopp has also opted to give Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.3m) his first league start of 2019/20 at the expense of captain Jordan Henderson (£5.5m).

Liverpool’s defensive quartet remains unchanged in the form of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.1m), Virgil Van Dijk (£6.5m), Joel Matip (£5.5m) and Andy Robertson (£6.9m) with Adrian (£4.6m) continuing to marshall the backline in the absence of Alisson (£5.8m). 

Klopp’s decision to rest both Henderson and Firmino is telling of the packed fixture list that sits on the horizon, yet this may also point to a propensity for rotation within Liverpool’s squad over the winter months, but for now the highly owned attacking assets of Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) and Saido Mane (£11.5m) retain their starting berths. 

Steve Bruce has opted to make just one change to the Newcastle side who drew with Watford last time out, with Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) earning a start in place of Sean Longstaff (£5.0m). 

The attacking option in the form of Shelvey as opposed to the more defensively-orientated Longstaff could be telling of Bruce’s plans to play swift, counter-attacking football against the Reds, but the likes of Fabien Schar (£5.0m), Jamal Lascelles (£4.5m) Paul Dummett (£4.5m) and Emil Krafth (£4.5m) will have to be on top of their game at Anfield to take anything from the side who currently sit 1st in the Premier League going into Gameweek 5. 

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Adrian; Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson; Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Mane, Salah, Origi.

Newcastle XI (5-3-2): Dubravka, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett, Krafth, Hayden, Shelvey, Willems, Atsu, Joelinton, Almiron.

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  1. hueycho
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Dont think salah deserve 2 bps tbh..

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      It's so fixed

      1. hueycho
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah agree

      2. BERGKOP
        7 years, 1 month ago

        By who and for what reason? So that someone in their office could win FPL?

    2. ZeBestee
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Why? Fpl has a BPS for a reason.

    3. THE Wild Rover
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Who cares? 😛

      1. hueycho
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Well i do cuz i aint got salah hah

    4. Epic Fail
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Which part of the BPS do you disagree with?

      1. hueycho
        7 years, 1 month ago

        How he got more than firmino for a start lol

        1. Back on the horse
          7 years, 1 month ago

          opta stats -> BPS -> Bonus points.

          I've done a flow diagram for you. Just PM me if you want the powerpoint. 🙂

          1. hueycho
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah i probs wont need it

    5. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Agree but goals are heavily weighted

      1. hueycho
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thats what it is i guess cheers

        1. FPL_Crisis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Willems and Robbo both on 27bps
          The former did one thing pretty much the whole game (super striker btw)

  2. manu4life99
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Any idea on final lpool bps?

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Won’t change, Mane dropping slightly.

    2. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Has Moderation Rights
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Mane 3, Salah 2, Firm 1

      1. Peter Ouch
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Unfair, why not robbo 2

        1. BERGKOP
          7 years, 1 month ago

          You have Robbo?

  3. Rotation's Alter Ego
    • Has Moderation Rights
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Montoya has tonsillitis. Unlucky for owners (and Montoya)

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Hehe (oh no)

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      7 years, 1 month ago

      oh you tell us this now! why didn't you mention this in your Hot Topic? thanks for nothing 😉

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        7 years, 1 month ago

        feel better about my Martial -> D.Silva hit now, until he doesn't start at least ... Ayew is completely refusing to be benched for my team this week 😀

    3. Greenbackbøøg…
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Is that true

    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      7 years, 1 month ago

      No need to find a replacement then. Cheers!

  4. FPL Scoop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Barkley on bench should be good for Mount. Was stifled last game.

    1. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, should mean Mount is back centrally as number 10 right?

  5. Respect My Authoritah
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Sterling cappers must be pretty happy with that? I certainly am 🙂

    1. BIind Moth
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Can't be happy until I see that team sheet. If he's there at 4:30pm I'll be counting my chickens before they're hatched. Guaranteed double digits if he starts.

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        7 years, 1 month ago

        If he's benched, unlikely he'll come on right? So we'll get Salah cap anyway 🙂

        1. BIind Moth
          7 years, 1 month ago

          You'd imagine City will be at least 2 or 3 up by the 60 minute mark. No point bringing him on with the CL next week.

        2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          *Mané.

          Just saying' ... 😉

    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yep. Got away lightly. I wouldn't swap. It may be different after though

    3. khanage4473
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Why?

    4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      7 years, 1 month ago

      worth a retrospective lol......never count your chickens

  6. jimmy12
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Ndombele to Eriksen or not worth it?

    Ndombele benched

    1. Ze_Austin
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Ndombele to a different team, maybe?

      Poch roulette will be on fire this season. The whole freaking season

      1. Ze_Austin
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Eriksen should be safe though. Just feels very punty

        See what happens for the first few easy games, but get someone else for now?

        1. jimmy12
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Doing Ndombele to Pepe

  7. Agger
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Benzema's assist a few weeks back vs Celta Vigo is better than Firmino's today... Just saying..

    https://youtu.be/Ov5GrQwp-jM

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Now there's an example of an underrated player

      1. Demí
        7 years, 1 month ago

        And lest we forget he was dating Rihanna once upon a time. Puts him in the GOAT category

        1. Epic Fail
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Not with that fivehead of hers.

        2. Peter Ouch
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Dating rihanna makes you sheep not goat

    2. ZeBestee
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino still the better one.

      1. Agger
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Benzema literally did a Zidane turn to finish off a sublime move. It doesn't get better 😉

  8. F4L
    7 years, 1 month ago

    do you still get -3 bps for missing a big chance if the shot was saved, as opposed to off target?

    1. Brosstan
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

      1. F4L
        7 years, 1 month ago

        cheers

  9. Pi
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Goal predictions please

    Wolves- Chelsea
    Man Utd- Leicester
    Sheffield- Southampton
    Norwich- Man City

    1. F4L
      7 years, 1 month ago

      1-1
      1-1
      1-0
      1-6

    2. JonBoy
      7 years, 1 month ago

      2-2
      0-1
      1-1
      1-4

    3. BIind Moth
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Wolves 2-1 Chelsea
      Man Utd 1-2 Leicester
      Sheffield 1-0 Southampton
      Norwich 1-6 Man City

    4. One for All
      7 years, 1 month ago

      1-1
      0-1
      0-0
      0-5

    5. hueycho
      7 years, 1 month ago

      2:1
      1:1
      1:0
      0:3

    6. Alnair
      7 years, 1 month ago

      1-3
      1-0
      0-0
      1-4

  10. Dr. Agabuse
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Mane 39 to 33 Salah (if 2bonus today) so far if we dont count the AFCON prevented first game (Mane didnt start)
    +2goals in Istanbul.

    Other words: from games they both started and this is all but one game this season:

    Mane 6goals 1 assist
    Salah 3goals 1 assist

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      7 years, 1 month ago

      But which one is the bonus magnet 😀

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      lol so convoluted

  11. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Don't own him but wouldn't be surprised to see a hatty from Vardy today

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 1 month ago

      He doesn't tend to score hat tricks though so I'd be surprised.

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah but he doesn't face United every week

        1. Epic Fail
          7 years, 1 month ago

          That's a fair point.

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I would. A goal seems fairly likely, but a hatty would be surprising

    3. have you seen cyan
      7 years, 1 month ago

      no chance of a vardy hatti lol, if he gets a brace we are lucky

    4. ‘Tis the Season
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Let’s hope. Hope they destroy utd. Honestly think leister should be higher in the league than utd. No creativity in utd team

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        7 years, 1 month ago

        They will be!

    5. hueycho
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I think its fair to say we can expect another appalling performance from united :/

  12. camarozz
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Trossard red flagged so I played Montoya. Lol at me.

    So it's Barkley from the bench I'm relying on...

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      7 years, 1 month ago

      He will come on, I think

    2. JIMMY TUGGINS
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Monty has got me 0 points in 3 weeks of owning, pretty sweet.

  13. Yome
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Salah and Mané double up is heaven

    1. lilmessipran
      7 years, 1 month ago

      So is vvd and taa...cries in a corner

    2. IRBOX ⚽
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Really? Would have Salah and KDB, Sterling, Aguero, Aubameyang and a sick squad over a selfish lucky Mane

      1. Amey
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Why do you hate Mane so much ??
        😀

        1. ‘Tis the Season
          7 years, 1 month ago

          He loves his Senegalese pole [sic]

        2. IRBOX ⚽
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I just don’t think he is a very good player. Rarely creates chances/assists and relies upon well grafted opportunities to score. Granted he is clinical at times but I just don’t rate him at all

          1. have you seen cyan
            7 years, 1 month ago

            he wasnt anything that special at Southampton. Take him out this Liverpool set-up and he will be average again

          2. Amey
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Agree with most of that.
            He's very clinical since last season though.

          3. JonBoy
            7 years, 1 month ago

            This is utter balderdash.

      2. JonBoy
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Salah is fat and away our most selfish player.

        1. JonBoy
          7 years, 1 month ago

          *far

        2. Amey
          7 years, 1 month ago

          That's true

      3. Sandy Ravage
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Mane will match all of them this season, except Sterling

        1. IRBOX ⚽
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Lol

          1. Sandy Ravage
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Bookmarked for posterity

  14. Rainer
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Them performances, them stats but 7 points for 13.9m between Trent & Robbo.

    FPL is a funny old game!

    1. F4L
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Trent Robbo Adrian owner 🙁 Cruel

    2. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Not too shabby that.

    3. IRBOX ⚽
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Far too much investment in a shaky defence

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        7 years, 1 month ago

        it wasn't very shaky today really, it was against Norwich but it's been better since then

        1. Cok3y5murf
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I'd say against Southampton too.

      2. F4L
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Newcastle had 1 shot on target today....

        1. IRBOX ⚽
          7 years, 1 month ago

          That’s all it takes

          1. F4L
            7 years, 1 month ago

            hardly a sustainable conversion rate though is it

    4. Piggs Boson
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Fine margins. Liverpool only gave away 0.33xG, so were a little unfortunate to concede. Trent showed Willems onto his weak foot, but the shot was ridiculous.

    5. Dacra
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Could easily have both scored, both will do well.

    6. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Should be good over time

    7. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      promising going forward. makes me want them both again rather than vvd

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        7 years, 1 month ago

        altho vvd looks more and more attacking

    8. mixology
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I have all 3, planning to keep for all season (triple up)

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        7 years, 1 month ago

        love that

  15. HNI
    7 years, 1 month ago

    No boly for wolves. going to be goalfest for chelsea. Hope mount gets one as well

    1. Amey
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Amen

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      feels like a 0-0 tbh

  16. Brosstan
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Why is Gary Neville in the Norwegian PL studio? Doesnt he have a pundit job at Sky?

    1. HNI
      7 years, 1 month ago

      He spat at carragher as revenge fornwhat carra did to that little girl and got fired

  17. Dacra
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Zouma dropped permanently?

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Believe so

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      just let me look into the future and i’ll get back to u

      1. Dacra
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ta, waiting.

        1. EMBOLOFAN
          7 years, 1 month ago

          he comes back gw9

          1. Dacra
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Nice one.

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Tomori impressed in the last match. Zouma hasn't all that much.

    4. Brosstan
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Was always getting dropped when Rudiger returned

  18. PrettyDick
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Anybody here use fantasypremiertools to check their live ranks? Wondering how accurate it is.

  19. Kristobal
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Hanley nailed on when fit?
    Kelly first choice RB at Palace?

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      no and no

    2. Piggs Boson
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Zimmerman and Klose have long-term injuries, so Hanley is nailed until January at least.

      Don't think so.

  20. Evasivo
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Any surprises in the lineups?

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      montoya hospitalised with sore throat

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        7 years, 1 month ago

        potters had him singing opera

  21. HNI
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Such a trying time being Manutd fan. Started watching football and supporting Manutd since Nistelrooy times as a kid. From the crescendo of success in 2008 to 7 year and counting hangover of post Ferguson era, glory has come a full circle..but when will the circle actually finish and glory commence? Maybe never.
    Looking forward to the Leicester match :p

    1. Amey
      7 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

    2. Dacra
      7 years, 1 month ago

      As a Liverpool fan, this makes me smile 😀

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Lol me too

        1. JonBoy
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Me three.

      2. HNI
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I hope we get back even in 14 years like you did. 2022 there is hope lol

        1. JonBoy
          7 years, 1 month ago

          2022. I'll keep my eye on youse that year!

    3. MTPockets
      7 years, 1 month ago

      oh well never mind

    4. BERGKOP
      7 years, 1 month ago

      These are the times that make the successes all the sweeter. You'll have success again but just enjoy the football in the meantime... That's what it's about.

  22. have you seen cyan
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Tammys true colours to show today

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      7 years, 1 month ago

      bottling another pen? getting subbed off for a handsome world cup winner on 59mins?

  23. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Any chance Firmino gets 2 BAPS?

    1. Amey
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Nope

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Considering he didn’t even start I’ll take the 8 pointer! Buzzing!

  24. BERGKOP
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Paul Scholes. Fantastic player. No personality.