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The only Premier League match to take place this Sunday is a big one, with league leaders Liverpool hoping to maintain their unbeaten start to the season against old foes Manchester United.

Kick-off at Old Trafford is at 16:30 BST.

The headline team news sees Mohamed Salah (£12.4m) miss out through injury, with Jurgen Klopp telling Sky Sports ahead of the match:

Mo was not ready, that’s how it is. He couldn’t train with the team; I don’t know where it came from that everybody said he will play. There was pretty much no chance for today, maybe for Wednesday [in the Champions League], we have to see.

With Salah missing out, Sadio Mane (£11.8m) and Roberto Firmino (£9.6m) are joined in a front three by Divock Origi (£5.3m).

Alisson (£5.8m) and Joel Matip (£5.5m) have been passed fit to play, however, and rejoin the visitors’ backline in place of Adrian (£4.6m) and Dejan Lovren (£5.3m).

Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.2m), Andrew Robertson (£6.9m) and Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) maintain their ever-present records in the top flight this season.

Despite Ole Gunnar Solskjaer having said he was unlikely to play, David de Gea (£5.5m) has recovered from the groin injury that he sustained on international duty and takes his place between the posts for the Red Devils.

Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.4m) has also recovered from tonsillitis, joining what may well be a back five for the hosts given that Ashley Young (£5.4m), Marcos Rojo (£4.8m), Harry Maguire (£5.4m) and Victor Lindelof (£5.4m) all start.

Luke Shaw (£5.4m) has failed to recover, however, while Paul Pogba (£8.4m) misses out as expected.

Anthony Martial (£7.5m) is fit enough to be among the substitutes and joins Mason Greenwood (£4.4m) on the bench.

With Martial not in the starting XI, Marcus Rashford (£8.4m) looks set to lead the line again.

The corresponding fixture to this game ended 0-0 in 2018/19.

This re-match indeed sees a meeting between the two sides with the best expected goals conceded (xGC) tallies in the top flight, although that tightness in defence hasn’t translated into too many clean sheets: United and Liverpool have just two each so far this season.

At the other end of the pitch, the Red Devils have the third-worst xG from open play among Premier League clubs.

Mane was the most-bought player of Gameweek 9, with Salah the most-sold.

Wan-Bissaka and de Gea were also shipped out by almost 400,000 Fantasy managers combined.

Salah was the fifth-most-captained player of Gameweek 9, although it’s probably fair to assume that a decent chunk of the 634,160 FPL bosses who handed him the armband may have given up the ghost already.

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelöf, Rojo, Young, McTominay, Fred, Pereira, James, Rashford.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Mané, Firmino, Origi.

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  1. Woy_is_back
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Atleast I took Salah out on the wild card, only thing I did not fail on 😀

    1. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Nice Coach.

    2. Cookie Kid
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Yeah me too - it enabled me to afford Aguero

      Oh wait....

  2. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    7 years, 11 days ago

    I think Mane owners are kidding themselves if they think this doesn't hurt him too. Everyone schemes/gameplans for salah which gives mane space which he takes advantage of. No salah sees that attention turned on mane. Origi the man to benefit.

    1. Thierry14
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Be that as it may, it’s still hard to see Mané on the pitch and able to score points with Salah injured, as anything other than positive as a Mané owner.

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        It is positive, but it's not some holy grail that some seem to be making it out to be.

    2. Borisalandoris
      7 years, 11 days ago

      The bigger problem is even more salah owners switching to Mane in my opinion. Makes leagues more tedious

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        I agree with this. But a salah differential is a fun proposition

    3. Peter Ouch
      7 years, 11 days ago

      2 points are better than 0

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        People will get benches though? Also. Can't see United scoring, so at least it's three :p

        1. Peter Ouch
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Hope so for more 🙂

    4. Rik Waller
      7 years, 11 days ago

      That being said, I'm still confident Mane will outscore Salah in this game.

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Scenes if he doesn't!

        1. Rik Waller
          7 years, 11 days ago

          haha I didn't even think of that

    5. Lucy2019
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Spot the Salah owner....

      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Not a bad guess but haven't owned him for over a year now. Gw5 last year he left and hasn't been back.

  3. No Professionals
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Patience with Salah and kane is over.

    Move to
    A) mane and aguero
    B) Kdb and aubameyang

    1. Woy_is_back
      7 years, 11 days ago

      A

    2. fusen
      7 years, 11 days ago

      B

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      7 years, 11 days ago

      B

    4. Peter Ouch
      7 years, 11 days ago

      B

    5. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Move to 5 on midfield with Mane + KDB?

  4. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Sick of the filthy casuals getting Rico points for Salah while I'm only getting a lousy Cantwell 3 pointer

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      7 years, 11 days ago

      This. I, who bravely and masterfully started Rico, with absolute faith he would return, am being undermined by these jammy substitutions, who didnt have the ballls to play him in their XI. Injustice! Disgrace!

    2. No Professionals
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Probably 1 more point than Salah would have got

    3. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Sickening.

    4. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      7 years, 11 days ago

      You're lucky. I'm getting Diop's nul points for Aguero.

    5. Superflymonk
      7 years, 11 days ago

      All this fuss over 5pt difference? There are people getting lowton 0 pts and 1pters from yarmolenko. Count ya blessings

    6. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Casuals wouldn't threaten your rank though so no problem

      1. Brosstan
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Of course they would. Casuals are being spoon fed and having all the luck these days. Whats the point.

        1. Brosstan
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Case in point... Points chasing Mane casuals getting another one over the sensible Salah owners today

        2. George Sillett
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Having all the luck is a perception not a fact .

        3. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
          7 years, 11 days ago

          It's only luck because you call it skill when you do it though.

          1. George Sillett
            7 years, 11 days ago

            Ha ha Touche.

          2. Brosstan
            7 years, 11 days ago

            Because it literally is skill when Salah hauls (look at stats) and luck when Mane does (again look at stats, unsustainable)

            1. George Sillett
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Comical manipulation to endorse a false statement.

              1. Brosstan
                7 years, 11 days ago

                Theres no shame in being a casual, might as well admit it if you own Mane, but dont try to change the facts that hes a casual pick and owners are getting lucky.

                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  7 years, 11 days ago

                  That's a load of crap lad

                2. Lucy2019
                  7 years, 11 days ago

                  You sound a salty simpleton. Not a good look. Embarrassing stuff.

                  1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
                    7 years, 11 days ago

                    Want me to call a taxi for you?

                    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                      7 years, 11 days ago

                      Hes agreeing with our viewpoint

                      1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
                        7 years, 11 days ago

                        I replied to the wrong comment, whoops

                3. George Sillett
                  7 years, 11 days ago

                  The worst bit of this statement is that you actually appear to believe it.

            2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Stats are only a part of the game, they dont run things. Mane has won the eye test comfortably

              1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
                7 years, 11 days ago

                Yes.

            3. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Maybe stats aren't everything? They are a proxy for events, not an event in themselves.

              Also, picking the top scoring player of the last two years doesn't look like skill, it looks pretty obvious.

    7. Party time
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Filthy Casual here 🙂

      1. TwiggsJameson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Me too. Dirty Casual here.
        But seriously, isn't this why one should have a strong bench?

        1. Party time
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Hahaha 😆 absolutely!

    8. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      My 2 bench players for Otamendi and Salah are Yarmolenko and Dendoncker. Fed up with this season.

    9. George Sillett
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Usual crap . Assumption that Rico is a pick of casuals is ridiculous. He's in most wildcards on here.

      1. TwiggsJameson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Absolutely agree.

      2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Idiots

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          7 years, 11 days ago

          I started rico

          1. Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 years, 11 days ago

            respect

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Thanks 🙂

    10. Peter Ouch
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Not even there, rico 2nd on bench, McGinn will get my Mahrez points

    11. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Surely it's the same as having lundstram at beginning of the season. Find the cheapest playing defender.
      Now it's Rico.
      Not really picked because Bournemouth are renowned for clean sheets 🙂

  5. joelsprylar
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Mane & KDB with a cheaper striker. I would be worried about Aubas role now when Lacazette returns.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Get Laca

  6. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Salah>Mane rage transfer confirmed ingenious.

    That itchy Gold finger.

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Man, that sounds like trouble.
      Salah/Mane seem like those players you sitck with and ride the no-shows/cameos with. Doing the hokey pokey, not a fan of that.

      Unless, ofc, you think Mane outscores Salah regardless.

      1. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Get him back when he can make the squad.

      2. Klaren
        7 years, 11 days ago

        When one of them is injured, it is quite a sensible move. There is no guarantee Salah will start against Spurs either and even if he does, unlikely to finish 90 minutes if he couldn’t even make the bench today.

  7. Blue&White85
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Selling Son & Pukki but nothing quite sure on the best option. Thoughts?

    A. Mount & Vardy (1.1 ITB)
    B. KDB & 6.9 (can’t see one)
    C. Maddison & Rashford (1.3 ITB)
    D. B. Silva & Vardy (0 ITB)

  8. JIMMY TUGGINS
    7 years, 11 days ago

    At least Greenwood got a good run in the team while Martial was out.

    1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Well actually...

      1. JIMMY TUGGINS
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Hello mate, how's your week going?

        1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Hey! I would say terrible because only two players have got points but just feeling happy David silva did bits. All rests on my triple Liverpool defence though. Sure your lads can help me out with that 😉

          How about yours?

          1. JIMMY TUGGINS
            7 years, 11 days ago

            Feels bad but above average with TAA left, got Rico off bench for Mahrez, I think I'm gonna pick a captain by throwing a dart at my laptop next week.

            1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Would work better than what I've been doing!

  9. Superflymonk
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Lot's of benches being put to the test this gw. Learnt my lesson the hard way in gw 6 not to have a week bench

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Nothing wrong with a weak bench. It's not very often your whole bench gets used. You just have to suck it up when it does.

      1. Superflymonk
        7 years, 11 days ago

        true, but better have players who can get you two or more pts but lots still have the likes of greenwood and kelly

        1. Epic Fail
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Aye no doubt. It's just that sometimes you might need to have a crap bench player in order to afford a premium player in your starting XI. I'll always prioritise the starting XI.

        2. TwiggsJameson
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 11 days ago

          You need the likes of Rico Cantwell, Lundatrum on the bench. And a playing keeper

  10. JIMMY TUGGINS
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Tuanzebe injured in warm up, Rojo starts, lol great.

    1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Oh great. Triple captain ruined as well then!

  11. Fudgy
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Rojo starting ... Wow, really regret not captaining mane now

  12. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    What do those "no room for racism" ad boards above the goalie usually say?

    1. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Gamble aware.

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Noting there usually i think.

  13. Brosstan
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Only justice would be a Mane red card.

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Just after his own goal.

    2. Superflymonk
      7 years, 11 days ago

      reverse jinx

    3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Hes gonna cream all over your dreams

  14. Captain Warlock
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Only 6m to spend on striker should you prefer
    A) Ings
    B) Maupay
    I’m thinking Ings ?

  15. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Tuanzebe out, rojo in

  16. Bob_the_builder
    7 years, 11 days ago

    As a Kun and Salah owner, no point shipping them out at their bad when the good is to follow.

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Confucius, is that you?

      1. Bob_the_builder
        7 years, 11 days ago

        It is but the law of the averages. You win some, you lose some.

        1. Epic Fail
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Man who walk through airport door sideways is going to Bankgok.

          1. George Sillett
            7 years, 11 days ago

            Wrong website.

            1. Epic Fail
              7 years, 11 days ago

              Nah, plenty of koks on here.

              1. George Sillett
                7 years, 11 days ago

                Would be funny if it wasn't true. ☺

          2. TwiggsJameson
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 years, 11 days ago

  17. Differential C (Mark)
    7 years, 11 days ago

    I mean, United are being asked to be F***ed. If Klopp is riled up, (and is he not?), can see this being an absolute thumping.
    The only way to pray for mercy is to have some sort of coherent system/tactics, because in terms of quality of players man-to-man, Liverpool have it all in spades. And well. . . lets just say I hope its Sir Alex doing the team talks and tactics for today.

    1. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Maguire better than Matip ftw

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        7 years, 11 days ago

        True last season, but you know what? Matip has improved his game so much this season. I'd even go out on a limb and say that this season so far, Matip has been a little better than Van Dijk.

        1. ChelseaGuy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 11 days ago

          Wouldn't disagree really. A real steal for Pool.

  18. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    salah could become a differential

  19. Fudgy
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Why do they think a sign saying no racism will have any effect at all on racism? Pointless...

    1. Brosstan
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Virtue signalling is all corporations do. Premier League is a corporation, they dont give a rats ass about any social movements as long as their decisions increase revenue.

      1. Fudgy
        7 years, 11 days ago

        You're right, that's all it is, virtue signalling.

      2. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 11 days ago

        Like the NBA sucking up to China and all too willing to turn a blind eye to injustice when it suits them.

    2. Differential C (Mark)
      7 years, 11 days ago

      its to raise awareness, I think. Messages/initiative serve as a show of some sort of collective stand by the FA against racism. A

      However, these messages must be accompanied by ACTION. And so far, think in this day and age we can do so much more then what we are doing now.

      1. Fudgy
        7 years, 11 days ago

        I honestly believe it spurs on more racism the way they are going about it.

        1. Differential C (Mark)
          7 years, 11 days ago

          The "measures" the FA have put up are atrocious. The punishment for racist chanting and monkey jeers is almost like a slap on the wrist. With such weak consequences, why wouldn't monsters feel emboldened to do as they please?

    3. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Would you rather they didn't have the sign?

  20. Mr. O'Connell
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Scouting McTominay today. Think he's United's best player and I want him IN

  21. Peter Ouch
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Love this move from Salah to Mane.
    Spend your 1 ft for a player that might overscore Mane nest Gw.

    Btw doing this now won't get Mane in your team for the game vs United

  22. FOO FIGHTER
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Feels so good to have Alisson back. The only playing GK not to concede a goal as yet. Ha ha

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      As an Adrian owner with Roberto sub I agree.

  23. TAT
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Come on, Liverpool. Do us non-United fans a favour!

  24. Blunder fc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    No Salah = anothrt lundstram haul from the bench ????

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Yeah.

  25. JustPark
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Lingardinho with last minute masterclass to seal the victory.

  26. George Sillett
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Ha ha Roy Keane wants them fighting in the tunnel before the match.

    1. Brosstan
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Roy Keane is right. Ole should throw a pizza in Klopp's face, maybe this game would get some real nerve again.

  27. Maddamotha
    7 years, 11 days ago

    So Tuanzebe injured during the warm up. I take it back, will be a lot of goals in this match. Unbelieveable!!!!!!

    1. Maddamotha
      7 years, 11 days ago

      And in come Rojo....ffs

  28. Lilac Breasted Roller
    7 years, 11 days ago

    I don't like how Salah still isn't on after an IB.

    A) Salah/Pukki -> Auba/Tielemans
    B) Wait out

  29. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 11 days ago

    TAA clean sheet and free kick goal too much to ask for? Would save my week or at least make it considerably better with no Salah or Otamendi

  30. La Roja
    7 years, 11 days ago

    Mate is having an absolute shocker

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/150266/event/9

    1. Epic Fail
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Wtf is that team. Have you told him it's crap?

    2. Brosstan
      7 years, 11 days ago

      Lundstram 12 pointer confirmed