Opinion

Should we buy cheaper Man City assets with premium options not rotation-proof?

The fourth Friday night deadline of the season is rapidly approaching and there are the usual quandaries for Fantasy managers to consider ahead of Gameweek 10, as well as some fresh ones.

Manchester City rotation is an issue that never goes away, while a ‘light at the back’ strategy is still paying dividends – for now.

Wolves assets, Liverpool’s fixture turn and Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m) are also generating their fair share of discussion in the Fantasy community.

Our rotating FPL Question Time panel are here to answer your questions on the above.

WHO’S ON THE PANEL THIS WEEK?

Applebonkers – A seasoned FFS face who boasts three top 10k finishes including an overall rank of 514, despite having a managing strategy he describes as “constantly fighting differential tourettes”. Likes to find a flaw in the seemingly untouchable and a ray of light in the stigma players.

Twisted Saltergater – A valued community member with ten years on FFS and 13 seasons of FPL under his belt, there’s nothing that TS hasn’t seen before.

Pirlø’s Pen – An dedicated and consistent FPL manager who hasn’t finished outside of the top 50k in the last four seasons. Carefully managed his Community team to become the Fantasy Chilli Bowl Champions in 16/17.

David Munday – Editor of Fantasy Football Scout.

Answers

Howard Miller: If the premium Man City players like Sterling and Aguero are not immune to rotation, is there merit in choosing a combination of their slightly less expensive but well-performing players such as Mahrez, De Bruyne, David Silva etc to free up funds to spend elsewhere?

Applebonkers: Despite Man City’s best efforts to redefine how we think about FPL, I still cling on to the perhaps outdated belief that you pick nailed-on players, especially at the higher prices.

If City’s disgustingly bloated squad doesn’t offer a Mane/Salah/Kane level of security then at least the next best thing, can you confidently call them a first-choice player? Sterling you can, Aguero you still just about can, De Bruyne you can, but can you with Mahrez or David Silva? I’m not so sure, both those players look more circumstantial.

A Bernardo Silva injury/ban in Mahrez’s case or a string of international breaks in David Silva’s case. Maybe even a pre-Wildcard punt when you’re only betting on one teamsheet. Meanwhile, someone like Sterling is arguably beyond circumstance.

The season so far has made a fool of my old-school beliefs but, like a stubbornasaurus, I’m not budging.

Rather than jump down to another Man City pick, I’d still lean towards looking at safe starters elsewhere. Long term you’re likely saving transfers and dodging potential tail-chasing.

Twisted Saltergater: Despite being arguably the most explosive of FPL assets, my patience with Aguero wore out this week.  That could bite me on the rear with Man City having two home fixtures up next, but for me, it boils down to having a couple of go-to captain options. At £12.2m, Aguero has to be a reliable captain pick.  

By reliable, he doesn’t need to haul every Gameweek (although that would make things considerably easier), but you need to feel confident of him starting matches. The form of Jesus (a goal a game) and how sharp he looks means that Pep has a genuine alternative without weakening his starting line-up.

I don’t perceive the same threat of rotation with Sterling. Sané’s injury means there are three players (Mahrez, Bernardo Silva and Sterling) competing for two wide attacking roles.  

Pep also doesn’t have an equivalent player in his squad that operates as the ‘inside forward’ in the way Sterling does. Bernardo Silva can fulfil that role as he did in the 8-0 thrashing of Watford, but that has been the only exception to the rule thus far.

If Aguero is your blonde bombshell, then Vardy might be the brunette librarian. However, there’s plenty of fun to be had with the £3.0m realised by that ‘downgrade’.  

Suddenly, Cantwell can become David Silva. Four double-digit returns already this season, he’s averaging 5.7 points per game. So, if you can handle his minutes being managed and the inevitable one-pointers, he will deliver over the longer term.

I actually have enough funds in the bank for Mahrez. Personally, that extra £1.0m over David Silva means the rotation risk with Bernardo Silva becomes more of an obstacle. If the impending FA charge carries a suspension then Mahrez should become very popular indeed. Until then, I think David Silva + £1.0m shades it.

Just a quick point on de Bruyne. Keep an eye on how much additional defensive cover he is providing since his return from injury. Particularly with the troubles at centre-back, Pep may have asked Kevin to rein in his attacking tendencies. We should know more following their next home game with Villa.


Migas: Best Pukki replacement of same value or lower?

Pirlø’s Pen: For the next two I really like the look of Neal Maupay at £6.0m. He faces two sides in Everton and Norwich which do not travel well at all.

After these two games, the fixtures really firm up, and at the same time Danny Ings’ fixtures clear up.

I think swapping these two is very viable and will give you a set of really appealing fixtures.

However, if I were looking for a Pukki replacement myself, I would either be downgrading to Connolly and investing more in my midfield or finding the extra cash from elsewhere to upgrade to the far superior options in Vardy, Jiménez, Abraham or even Rashford with his kind upcoming run of games.

David: I have been really impressed with Chris Wood of late, the Burnley forward scoring four goals in as many Premier League matches.

Although he’s got Chelsea at home this weekend, I don’t think this is much of a tough fixture for him.

Burnley have always had a knack for crashing the clean sheet party and given Wood’s form I don’t see why that can’t continue in Gameweek 10, especially at Turf Moor.

Over the last four Gameweeks, only five players in the Premier League have recorded better minutes per expected goal involvement (mins per xGI) than Wood.

Once this round of action is out of the way, Burnley face Sheffield United (away), West Ham (home), Watford (away) and Crystal Palace (home).


Jullepuu: Is it better to double up on Liverpool defenders or attackers when their fixtures turn?

Applebonkers: The captain’s armband probably has to be mentioned here. If you are someone who only captains midfielders or forwards then it only takes one Liverpool attacker to essentially ‘cover’ the armband option in every juicy fixture of theirs.

With Alisson now back you can arguably add another £1.0m to the value of all Liverpool defenders.

Meanwhile, you could arguably strip £1.0m of value from Liverpool attackers given the extra competition Mané/Salah/Firmino will face when fighting for bonus if Liverpool keep a clean sheet.

Sure, Mané and Salah will get an extra point in a clean sheet but I’ve got a word count to stay below here, am already furious with Scout for inviting me on and adding to an already bad case of overthinkingitis.

The more budget-friendly route of double defence is where I’m leaning but you can’t scoff at the alternative as that’s essentially saying Mané or Salah (or Firmino) are bad options.

Twisted Saltergater: As someone who brought in Firmino for four Gameweeks and 31 points, I’m not going to persuade anyone to not double up on the Liverpool attack.  

At the time, I could cover the Liverpool defence with Adrian – a £2.5m saving on Alexander-Arnold or Robertson – that enabled the Firmino pick.  

That said, I would be reluctant to have both Mané and Salah because of their premium price and you’d be giving yourself a captaincy headache.

With the return of Alisson, and Matip settling in alongside van Dijk, I expect clean sheets to follow.  

Alexander-Arnold and Robertson with their attacking threat should keep pace with similarly priced £7.0m midfielders and strikers.  

So for me, I’d prefer those two full-backs plus one of Mané or Salah, whichever you feel comfortable captaining.”


Lindelol: Are Jimenez and Wolves defenders now an option ahead of their favourable fixtures?

Pirlø’s Pen: I think now is the time for Wolves assets. When looking for my Pukki replacement last week, I turned my attention to the attacking Season Ticker and Wolves were at the top of the tree.

If you are looking for a reliable long-term striking option I don’t believe you should look any further than Jiménez at £7.1m.

I remember being shocked at his low price when the initial price reveals came out. Now he’s dropped £0.4m and sits at £7.1m, the first word that comes to mind is *bargain*.


Kyle: Is it now worth having a big front seven and going lighter in defence?

Twisted Saltergater: It’s certainly viable. With the emergence of Lundstram, Rico, Targett, Dunk, Soyuncu and co., clean sheets are not exclusive to the ‘big six’ teams. Throw in Tomori at Chelsea, potentially Aurier at Spurs, and budget-priced centre-backs at Man City, and you don’t need to shop in the basement. 

I saw a stat that showed the frequency of clean sheets this season are broadly in line with past seasons, but there’s been a greater variety in the teams achieving them. Variety means unpredictability for us, so why pay a premium at the back?

Alexander-Arnold with his attacking threat is practically essential, so a compromise might be to partner him with the aforementioned £4.5m enablers. Focus on centre-backs that are BAP magnets in the sub-£5.0m bracket, and look for full-backs and wing-backs with the most attacking threat if shopping for richer tastes.

Applebonkers: I think every player should be looked at individually, in essence letting the players decide the formation/structure.

Right now, even £4.5m defenders look like a luxury with the glorious/infuriating (delete as appropriate) rise of Lundstram, Rico and Kelly. Are opposition attackers going to keep missing glaring chances against Sheffield Utd? Are Bournemouth going to continue keeping clean sheets or can Rico keep assisting in the games they don’t? Will Kelly continue holding off Tomkins and Sakho long-term? Can the premium defenders keep dodging clean sheets so consistently? My personal hunch is the answer to all of these questions will start to tip the balance back towards the pricier defensive assets and open the door for all sorts of successful structures once more.

Identify the players you want most and see what structure that takes you towards. It only takes a double transfer to become your own chiropractor and snap your team into another shape in a month’s time.


Cattman: Is tripling up on Abraham, Mount and Hudson-Odoi too much? I’d love Hudson-Odoi and don’t want to lose the value in the other two just yet.

Pirlø’s Pen: In short, not at all. Owning Abraham and Mount won’t affect how many points Hudson-Odoi scores.

I think it’s important to look at each pick in isolation, and when you do, they are all top options in their price brackets. Owning all three is a luxury that won’t come around next season, as they are all sure to get heavy price increases. Take advantage of that whilst you still can.

David: Personally, I do think this could be a bit too much, especially ahead of a trip to Burnley in Gameweek 10.

I think Abraham, Mount and Hudson-Odoi are all strong options but I can’t see a particularly free-flowing game at Turf Moor.

The Clarets have specialised in making their home ground a tough place to visit once again, with clean sheets in all but one of their four matches there this season.

Furthermore, Sean Dyche’s men are in the top four for the lowest expected goals conceded (xGC) score over the last four Gameweeks.

I think there could be value in going for it and the three players you’ve mentioned in combination are a good way to play out some shield-to-sword/upside-chasing tactics.

But, for me, attacking triple-ups are all about timing.

I’d rather be looking at deploying such a trio from Gameweek 11 onwards, personally, when Chelsea travel to face Watford before a home match with Crystal Palace.

West Ham and Aston Villa also have to come to Stamford Bridge in Gameweek 14 and 15.

The only other arguments against such a set-up include whether you use a Chelsea slot on either Tomori or Alonso with some strong clean sheet potential over the next six Gamweeks.

Also, if you’re tripling on the Chelsea attack, remember that it has to go away to Manchester City in Gameweek 13 too…


Lessons learned from Gameweek 9

397 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Citizenkane91
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Which plan do you prefer?

    A) Mount to Hudson-Odoi (GW 10), Wilson to Vardy (GW 11).
    B) Mount to David Silva (GW 10), save FT (GW 11), Trossard to Hudson-Odoi (GW 12)
    C) same as B, but rather than save ft (GW 11), do Wilson to Maupay, and Maupay to Inga (GW 12). Vardy would then come in for Jimenez in GW 13 as planned initially.

    KDB Sterling Mane Trossard Mount Tammy Wilson (Jimenez first bench) is my current gw 10/gw11 attack.

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      B but not sure about triple city then.

  2. megatron14
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Auba or KDB for captain?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Kevinnnn

    2. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      KDB

  3. iL PiStOlErO
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Would appreciate some help. What would you do with this team?

    Pope Button
    TAA Soy Guilbert Lund Rico
    Mo KdB Son Maddison Cantwell
    Auba Tammy Connolly

    0.0 itb, 1 ft

    A) Son+Cantwell > Martial + CHO (-4)
    B) Son+Connolly > 5.0 mid + Vardy (-4)
    C) just Son out to someone
    D) something else

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Son > CHO
      Connelly > Jimenez/Wilson

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Very nice option. Tnx mate

        1. Citizen Kane
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          Ok mate

  4. applebonkers
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    prefer to say 6 top 15k finishes.

    ... or 7 top 16.5k 😉

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      p.s these were really hard questions and I struggled

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Is that even possible without super powers? Great job btw.

  5. Citizen Kane
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Is it worth a transfer for Mount to CHO?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      No

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      But if you can owning both could be great.

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      If you have 2 FT and nothing else to do then maybe, but otherwise I would say no.

  6. Dosh
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Which one has to go first, Cantwell or Saka?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Saka

    2. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Saka

  7. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Pope
    Lund,Rico,Matip,Tomori
    Mane,salah,Kdb,Sterling
    Jimmy,Tammy

    Button Cantwell,Greenwood,hanley

    How the team guys? Any suggestion ? Having 1ft to make.

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Save transfer

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        thanks mate

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure if I’ve seen that combo. Attack is a beast and defence is the best of the rest. I would wait one more week and then see if you need or want to upgrade that defence with 2ft.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        thanks mate, i will hold the transfer .

  8. BarrowAFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Not been happy with my team for weeks but WC has been used and don't wanna take too many hits.
    Who needs to go from this lot? Some decent fixture swings coming up.

    Pope - Button
    Tomori - Lundstrum - Rico - Soyuncu - Lowton
    KDB - Salah - Mount - Cantwell - Dendo
    Aguero - Auba - C.Wilson

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Rather Sterling than Aguero as he is more likely to start

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Too much money in attack. Currently not worth having both Kun and Auba. Spread the funds, defence is very bad.

  9. dee_top
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Start one this GW:
    A) Lundstram (whm)
    B) Tomori (bur)
    C) Rico (wat)

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A or C

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        I am starting C If that helps

    3. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Lundstram

  10. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Hi....who is best kane replacement? Intention always been kun but rotation worries me....

    A....kun
    B...auba
    C...vardy (already got maddison)

    Thanks

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Have you got Sterling or KDB as they are better options

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        I have kdb

        Only way to get Sterling is for a hit.....kane and 4.5mid to sterling and connolly.....

        1. Citizen Kane
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          captain KDB

          Do them transfers next week

    2. Fpl Richie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Stand legs apart, strip to the guns and get Kun. Alpha male ballsy stuff.
      (nb. Apologies for the toxic masculinity in the use of this comment)

    3. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Two weeks ago I would say Auba for sure but now maybe doble up with party host.

      1. iL PiStOlErO
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        *double

        1. Flynny
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 6 months ago

          Having planned the kun move I feel compelled to get him I think

          Then need to decide on kun v kdb as captain....

          1. iL PiStOlErO
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 6 months ago

            I want to get Kun in bhut have to lose KdB so don’t want to do it. But If I had him I would risk cpt on him

          2. Citizen Kane
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 6 months ago

            I'd say KDB captain

  11. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Would you downgrade Salah/Sterling to KDB?

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Better if you could get funds elsewhere as they are both good options

    2. Boz
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Nah

    3. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Sterling yes, Salah no

  12. Boz
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    2fts 3.4itb

    Pukki + Son ➡

    A) Jimi + Sterling
    B) Auba / Vardy + Dilva

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A for me mate

      1. Boz
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        What I’m current on

    2. Boz
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Or Kun in B?

    3. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

    4. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

    5. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

    6. Boz
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers guys

  13. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Ryan
    Otamendi TAA* VVD Lundstram (KWP)
    Salah Sterling Mount (Stephens Cantwell)
    Wilson Pukki Abraham

    0ITB, 1FT.

    What would you do?

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Downgrade defence and put that money in upgrading Pukki or 4th mid. KWP and VVD out before Ota.

      1. Gooner97
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        KWP to Soy or Rico?

  14. iL PiStOlErO
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Which combo do you think will score more points in the next few gw? Double Che (Tammy and CHO) or double Leicester (Vardy and Maddison)?

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Probably Chelsea but will be similar I think

      1. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed

  15. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    Would you start ?

    A Mount (bur) - have CHO & Abra
    B Rico (wat)

    1. iL PiStOlErO
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Mount because you decided to have triple che so now stick until the end with it or sell him. Not many people have triple Che, thats your advantage. No point in benching him for bou defender imo.

    2. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      A

  16. imvs
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    replacement for otamendi?
    A) Boly
    B) doherty
    C) Dunk
    D) Stones
    or any other(better) replacements?
    already have 2 pool defenders, lundstram, periera,

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Think I’m going Lundstram myself
      I like Boly out of those options but that’s way too much money spent in defence

  17. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    I like Twisted Saltergater's view on doubling up on Robbo and Trent.

    The only reason I prefer the double up on Mane and Salah is that they are 2 premium hauling beasts not prone to benchings. Yes they might be yanked of by 75 or 80 minutes at times but clearly to give them a breather.

    When both haul at the same time it is good for your rank. Also, normally they take turns with their hauls.

    I am still a bit sceptic about a Robbo and Trent double up.

    Liverpool have conceded the least goals but still prone to brain farts and with Ali back clean sheets may become more regular but Mane and Salah plus Trent just feels better.

  18. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 6 months ago

    I want Jimenez but 2 away games coming up so unsure if better off waiting so...
    Ota/ Pukki to Lundstram/ Jimenez or Digne/ Pukki to Lundstram/ Abraham??

    1. Citizen Kane
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      Digne and Pukki > Lund and Abraham IMO

      1. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 6 months ago

        Wolves have new/ars away. Chelsea have bur/wat away not so easy
        Tempted to not get Abraham in since he’s so highly owned

    2. imvs
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 6 months ago

      ota is not playing so well and stones is back
      i doubt pep's gonna give him proper playing time