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Why Liverpool’s use of crosses affects Mane’s Fantasy appeal

14 November 2019 275 comments
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From Gameweek 25 of last season onwards, Sadio Mane (£12.1m) has outscored Mohamed Salah (£12.3m) in Fantasy Premier League by 190 points to 152.

The main difference appears to be explosiveness: both players have blanked in ten of their 25 starts over this period but the Senegal international has recorded three times as many double-digit hauls (nine v three).

We discussed the various arguments in the Mane v Salah debate upon the release of the FPL price list in the summer, with one consideration being the Egyptian’s positional move from the central striker of a 4-2-3-1 to his usual right-wing role in a 4-3-3.

Another factor was Liverpool’s use of crosses – and it’s this particular tactical shift that we’ll analyse in the Members article below.

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  1. Here is Cash, give McGinn
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Which would you go if Salah is fit after IB?

    a) Aurier -> Taa (4,3 ITB after)
    b) Mount -> Salah (0,9 ITB after)

    If I want both next GW I would need to KDB -> Pulisic/Martial to free funds

    I have Mane from Liverpool.

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    1. Angelic upstart
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Get TAA and pusilic for mount and aurier

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    2. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer A as I don't like Aurier at fpl

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      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        But you do like him as a footballer? 🙂

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        1. kennethrhcp
          • 15 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Haha... no obviously enough i dont like him at that either

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  2. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    which Palace CB is nailed? If any?

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    1. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      cahill looks fair nailed

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    2. Angelic upstart
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Cahill and Sakho when fit

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    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Tomkins and Sakho are likely first choice but the odds of their both being fit simultaneously are zilch - so Cahill is a good pick

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  3. Dannywaz
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Really duno what to do
    Pope McGovern
    Taa Robbo tomori lunds soy
    Mount mane sterling madds donks
    Jimi Tammy vardy
    2fts o.2 itb

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    1. Here is Cash, give McGinn
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      looks pretty solid. Only thing I would consider is Sterling -> Salah. Robbo -> something else if you need to free funds. And you have little room for benching rotation at the moment

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    2. Here is Cash, give McGinn
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      or maybe Mount to Pulisic

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    3. Dannywaz
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling is my cap against Chelsea

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    4. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Tomori -> Someone cheaper
      To fund Mount -> Pulisic

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    5. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Which 2 defenders are you always going to bench ??

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    6. Dannywaz
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      This is problem has I'll be playing lunds none stop now and have bench problems every week lol

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  4. kennethrhcp
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    A: Mount (Mousset) 442
    B: Jimenez (Alzate) 433

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    1. Here is Cash, give McGinn
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      B

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      1. kennethrhcp
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        thanks!

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    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Jimenez

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      1. kennethrhcp
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        cheers 😉

        I was on that but bottom comment last page looked good & I thought about switching

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        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Mount decent template pick.
          Jimenez less owned + Talisman + Uber nailed + Pens + plays Norwich gw 18 (when Pool blanks)
          Hmmmm
          😉

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          1. kennethrhcp
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 1 month ago

            thanks again

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  5. Amey
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Did Otamendi to Lascells last GW only 😀
    Bad luck .....
    No ££ to add for that spot too.
    Hopefully Janmaat/Yedlin stay @ 4.4 till gw 14 deadline 😮

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    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Is he out injured?

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      1. Amey
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Out till New Year

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        1. Eleven Hag
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Ohh tough luck

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          1. Amey
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Rico subbed too last GW
            Makes two openings is the Defense but no funds to upgrade 😀
            Wait N see is the order of the day

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    2. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      be surprised if Janmaat double rises!

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      1. Amey
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers
        Hopefully he stays @ 4.4
        Watford have tightened up & he's good at attacking/chances creating

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    3. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer clark in this range

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      1. Amey
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Is he nailed though ??
        Schar/ lejune back can hamper his minutes ??

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  6. TaiwanHC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on Ings?

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    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Very good option imo with those upcoming fixtures.

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    2. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Great pick IF he stays fit

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    3. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      He's someone I've been eyeing up (on Maupay currently) but I'd be expecting a possible benching in early-December given the swift turnaround in GW14-16. Hasenhuttl said recently that he didn't think it was a good idea for Ings to play three times in a week:

      https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17990866.southampton-boss-ralph-hasenhuttl-makes-danny-ings-claim/

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  7. Angelic upstart
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Does this site still do the corner/free kick takers list for each club?

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    1. Angelic upstart
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      If so where? I can't seem to find it

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      1. Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Yes indeed - should be in the Team News drop-down menu.

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      2. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Set Pieces under Team News

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  8. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on Djenepo or JWP?

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    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Cheap one
      Southampton are atrocious to invest other than Ings IMHO though

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  9. AC Pilkington
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Choose one defender to commit to for the Xmas period in a rotation:

    A) Ake

    B) Cathcart

    C) Mings

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    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      A from that list.
      Many cheap & better options available though in Janmaat/Tomori/Yedlin/Schar etc

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      1. 11 smelly shirts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        I agree with Amey. Would rather go with Janmaat.
        If you feel restricted to the three options it's somehow between A and B

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  10. Slitherene
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Wanting to punt on Lacazette (SOU)

    But, should I be taking a hit for Wilson (WOL)?

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    1. Amey
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Great punt

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      1. Slitherene
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Worth the hit?

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        1. Amey
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          I'd take the hit if I'm planing to go on & © for next 2
          Touch N go though.
          Jimenez also good long term pick though (assuming you have Vardy & Tammy)

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          1. Slitherene
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Don't feel like having a CHE triple up with Tammy, have Rashford instead.

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    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Not worth the hit IMO

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      1. Slitherene
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        This week is the best chance of him getting a haul against the SOU full backs.

        Not even long term?

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        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          Would you captain him?

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          1. Slitherene
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 1 month ago

            Would he be a better option than Vardy (bha) or Salah (cry)?

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            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 1 month ago

              Possibly the Norwich fixture the following gameweek could be tempting.

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    3. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Ars was unreliable in the last games, few goals. They play vs the worst defense of course, but I wouldn't take a hit for it, esp. as Laca didn't show much yet after his injury

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      1. Slitherene
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        He was getting in nice positions in the last game, couldn't finish though.

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        1. 11 smelly shirts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 1 month ago

          exactly, couldn't finish....

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  11. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Guys
    A) sterling and cantwell mane and dendo -4
    B) Save and do the same.for free next week..

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    1. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Do I get it right that you want to do STerling to Mane and Cantwell to Dendo? It's just 0.1 between STerling and Mane, so just do this one then

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  12. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    What’s the criteria for becoming a pro pundit?

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    1. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Guess you need to have a couple of good seasons, meaning at least in the top 10k and able to write well

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        That's clearly not the criteria

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    2. Slitherene
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Some skill, some luck & a big mouth.

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  13. 11 smelly shirts
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    2 FT and 2.6 itb

    Heaton, Button
    Robbo, Lundy, Soy, Walker, Montoya
    Salah, KdB, Martial, McGinn, H.Wilson
    Abraham, Jiminez, Ings

    What would you do with the FTs?

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  14. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Otamendi + KDB to TAA + Martial for -4?

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    1. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Otamendi to Martial sounds good. I"m not ready yet to give up on KdB though. I believe on average he will provide more than Martial (except for last GW)

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  15. PL Ball
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    How does..

    Pukki ==> Jimenez
    VVD ==> Sonyuncu
    James ==> Martial

    for a - 4 sound?

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    1. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds good, have all three you want to bring in and quite happy with them. Not sure how long I keep Martial though. Might replace him in a couple of weeks if he gets injured again

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    2. theguy69
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah that looks good mate. Theres other options than martial such as willian and pulisic and leicester mids to think of

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    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds good

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  16. dshv
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Hello my amigos

    Pope
    Robbo soy lund kelly rico
    Sterling mount mane mcginn dendo
    Auba tammy vardy

    Opinions?

    My plan is to vaptain auba against saints and after this remove him for somwbody else and upgrade more the midfield

    Please gime me a Desicion..

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    1. theguy69
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Its a nice differential id go for vardy or mane personally. Think about shipping mcginn imo!!

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    2. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds like a good plan. How much do you itb?
      I think Jiminez is a good option, but if you want to spend bigger Ings is cheap and could be benched if you dont need him.
      Upgrading Kelly or Rico could also be an option (to Tomori or Janmaat)

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  17. The 12th Man
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Strongly considering Cantwell >> Tom Davies this week .

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    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      With those fixtures coming up?
      Are you gonna play him?
      If not, total waste of money imo

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      1. The 12th Man
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        Play him against Norwich then pick and choose with Söyüncü,Rico

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    2. 11 smelly shirts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Just for this week?
      Everton plays Norwich and then 4 big games coming up.
      If you comfortable to bench him afterwards, ok, but I'm not expecting much returns from him. Honestly, it's 2 points to 2 points

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  18. John Colby (C)
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Is Cahill nailed-on in Palace’s starting line-up? Incredible value if he is given their next 2-3 months of fixtures.

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    1. jtreble
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 1 month ago

      Looks like it. Looking at PVA for GW14-21.

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      1. John Colby (C)
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 1 month ago

        5.6m for PVA is a bit too pricey for me sadly as I’m looking to Brent TAA in. But Cahill fits the budget. Cheers

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  19. dustbin89
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Close to splurging on hits, only made 2 this season.
    Ryan (McGovern)
    Tomori, Soy, Lunds, Pieters, Dunk
    Mané, KDB, Maddison, Mount, Cantwell
    Agüero, Vardy, Tammy
    1.5 itb, 1FT
    Tempted by
    Jiminez(Agüero)
    Pulisic(Mount)
    Robertson(Pieters)
    Martial(Cantwell)
    For -12 with 0.0 itb
    Second there is a rise or fall I can't do it. Can't have 7 non-df anyway, half those player coming in are yellow flagged

    Talk me out of it!!

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  20. KDB4PREZ
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Kane essential? Lol

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  21. Eze Really?
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 1 month ago

    Some of the common and fairly logical recommendations around here are moving for example:-
    Mount to Pulisic
    McGinn to Trossard
    And other such moves that seem to make sense from the outside.
    I have been playing the game for a while now and have a reasonable record, developed by some "not so obvious" recommendations from others.
    Please think about each move carefully this time of year.
    It is appropriate to have players playing regularly and when considering a player like Pulisic, the need for bench cover is more important.
    No matter the obvious skills he has, he has competition (CHO) who will no doubt play in his place up to as much as 50% of the time.
    A good bench and a decent bench who can cover rotation would be advisable.

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  22. Smell the Lavender
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 29 days ago

    Mainly about headers and crosses but FPL managers don't mind where the points come from. Maybe teams will try to prevent their crosses now and more will come from the middle..? Salah is on pens and is only a hat-trick away from being the best player in the world again... We know what he's capable of and I'm glad I've got him. Fingers crossed he recovers in time for the next game!

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