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The penultimate match of Gameweek 17 kicks off at 16:30 GMT, as Manchester City head to the Emirates to take on Arsenal.

Without the injured David Silva (£7.6m) and Sergio Aguero (£11.7m), Pep Guardiola has sprung a surprise by naming Phil Foden (£5.1m) in his starting XI for the first time in the Premier League this season.

With midfield anchors Ilkay Gundogan (£5.2m) and Rodri (£5.4m) in the visitors’ line-up, Kevin De Bruyne (£10.2m) looks to be playing in a more advanced role behind Foden, Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) and Gabriel Jesus (£9.6m).

Nicolas Otamendi (£5.0m) and Benjamin Mendy (£5.5m) also come into the side from the team that was defeated in the Manchester derby, with Angelino (£4.7m) and the sidelined John Stones (£5.3m) making way.

Bernardo Silva (£7.9m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.3m) are only amongst the substitutes.

Freddie Ljungberg has made two enforced changes to the side that beat West Ham last Monday, with Sead Kolasinac (£5.2m) and Matteo Guendouzi (£4.5m) coming in for the injured Kieran Tierney (£5.4m) and Granit Xhaka (£5.1m).

Alexandre Lacazette (£9.3m) is again among the substitutes as Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£10.8m) leads the line for the Gunners.

Mesut Ozil (£7.2m) makes his seventh straight Premier League start.

At the risk of jinxing it, there ought to be goals in this fixture: Arsenal and City are without a league clean sheet in eight and six matches respectively.

Bernd Leno (£5.0m) has made more saves than any other Fantasy Premier League goalkeeper this season.

City have scored at least two goals in each of the last seven league meetings with the Gunners.

Fantasy managers have been deserting the premium players from these two clubs recently: De Bruyne, Sterling and Aubameyang were three of the four most-sold FPL assets of Gameweek 17.


Arsenal XI: Leno, Maitland-Niles, Sokratis, Chambers, Kolasinac, Guendouzi, Torreira, Pepe, Özil, Martinelli, Aubameyang.

Man City XI: Ederson, Walker, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Mendy, Gundogan, Rodri, Foden, De Bruyne, Sterling, Jesus.

  1. Regin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Pep should always play kdb in this advanced role. He is being wasted playing deep. These deeper roles can easily be played by rodri, fernandinho, Gundogan, Foden, stones, etc..

    1. FirMinaMiMo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      No worries here after he will prefer yur thought lol

    2. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      U r correct, sir

    3. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Exactly - even though it was only Arsenal.

  2. FirMinaMiMo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Game over ... 76 ((+4baps))...80 🙂

  3. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Who shall I get rid of to get KDB in to my team

    ..oh wait I've still got him.

  4. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    A. Tammy to Rashford (C)
    B. Salah to Sterling
    C. Hold

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      C atm

    2. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      c

    3. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't touch rashford till gw23 when many travel to Liverpool.
      Manu play extraordinary only against mighty tough teams

      1. InSaneMan-e
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Yea do better against top teams but rash had returns in 4 of the previous 5 against non top 6 teams

        1. InSaneMan-e
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Not counting today

    4. InSaneMan-e
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Got no value tied up in Salah so I'll probably do b.

      1. BobbyDoesNotLook
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        How can one have tied value in Salah? He has dropped steadily 0.3 during the season. Nevertheless, do it!

  5. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Best one week punts for GW18? Top 5?

    1. FirMinaMiMo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      1) kdb
      2) kdb
      3) kdb
      4) kdb
      5) kdb

      lol

  6. Regin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Who is everyone gonna keep for the rest of season barring injury? For me.

    Kdb
    Mane
    Vardy
    Lundstram
    Probably Robbo as it's 50-50 between Robbo and taa.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Probably my double Pool defs, Lundstram, KDB maybe Salah.

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        And Pukki ofcourse

    2. InSaneMan-e
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Keeping mane for liverpool blank?
      But other than that salah/mane. KDB, maybe kane. Lundstram, robbo.

      1. Regin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah i bought him at 11.6. he is 12.3 now. I ll take 1 hit to upgrade other players

    3. elchilangles
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      impossible to say, if they start getting 6-7 blanks in a row then i'd ship all of them

  7. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Worst four consecutive game scores for KDB this season is 17pts.

    If 4.25pts is going to be his worst run, makes him a season keeper imo.

  8. The Man Pastore
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Best 5.0m or less def?

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Already have lund and Kelly

      1. Halftime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Fernandez from Newcastle

    2. TRIPOS TOPPER
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Cahill

    3. TheDragon
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Soy or Aurier

      1. TRIPOS TOPPER
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        both 5.1!

        1. TheDragon
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Wow

    4. balint84
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Rico

  9. Jullepuu
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Went out by 1 point in the ffs cup. Now I need Guaita to get me a point or I'm out of the fpl cup too.

    1. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Unless Brighton score 4 or guaita concedes and gets a yellow or red card , u r thru

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Well you’re not out then....

  10. manu4life99
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Mane,Dend > Son,Grealish?

    (Leaves cash for Maddison > Alli GW19, then WC20)

  11. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Pope
    Lundstram, Kelly, Rico, Soyuncu (TAA)
    KDB, Sterling, Zaha (Salah, Dendoncker)
    Vardy, Abraham, Mousset

    0.0m ITB, 2FT

    Is Salah to Son, then bench Soyuncu enough or do I need to use the second FT ?

    1. Teomi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I’m doing the exact

  12. Feloh
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    How does 65 with Guaita to go look?? KDB saving an otherwise terrible get.

    1. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Terrible GW****

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Well above top10k avg

    3. TRIPOS TOPPER
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      it's very good

      not much ownership tomorrow outside Ryan and CP defs / GK

    4. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I am on 65 all out. Robbo cameo blocks my first sub dunk

    5. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Decent, top 1k average is 56, GW average 51

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        make that good

  13. Wensink
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    On 80 points with Kelly left to go. Zombie Cup rival has SEVENTY-ONE with Zaha left. (Guy had triple Liverpool, captaining Salah and had Vertonghen in his XI). Just know I’m gonna lose somehow.

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      That seems highly unlikely.

  14. balint84
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    A) Graelish
    B) Richarlison
    C) Martial
    in for

    1) Mount
    2) Maddison

    1. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A1.

  15. TheDragon
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    66 and Ryan to go

    Whisper it quietly but I might break into the top 500k 😮

    1. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I broke out of top 500k again. 🙁 Son/Alli fail killed me

      1. TheDragon
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        It’s been a brutal season - I still hold out vague hopes of top 10k but really need to start getting decent green arrows soon.

        I think the standard of average player is much higher this season given the explosion of FPL content on social media

        1. Regin
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          My target is always top 100k. Anything better is a bonus. Top 10k quite tough, u need skill and luck.

  16. JOELIO8701
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Will be interesting next GW. Everyone will be chasing KDB points from this week. Rashford has looked great but Utd can’t seem to play v the lower sides (as seen today). Jimenez captain?

    1. TheDragon
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Son or Alli is tempting given Chelsea’s defence

      Jiminez is going to get a big hauls soon so he is tempting too

      1. Regin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Nah Jimenez gets consistent 5-7 pts. Rarely more. Wolves just don't score more than 1 or 2 goals in any game

  17. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Which combo scores more only next week?

    A) Rashford & Rico

    B) Ings & Martial

    D) Kane & Martial

    1. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I guess a.

    2. balint84
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      D

  18. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    62 plus Ryan to go. Cool with that maintains my 60 point average for another week 🙂

  19. Regin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone considering Moura here? ( For pulisic) he looks nailed doesn't he? Mou not rotating much. Or get grealish?

  20. balint84
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    captain candidate of next week?

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Its probably KDB/sterling for me

      1. balint84
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        not sure against a very defensive Leicester

    2. Halftime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe Jiminez

    3. balint84
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'm on Son

    4. Regin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Very tough. Maybe kdb. Or Abraham as he performs away from home? A punt on grealish?

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      24 hours ago it would be a rash of Rash .... then reality hit home about Ole’s side again.

  21. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Best Salah replacement already got KDB and Sterling ?

    1. balint84
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Son

  22. Firminooooo
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    OK. On tilt. Just did Maddison and Robertson to KdB and Kelly for -4. Feck it. Thinking about playing my wildcard or wait one week?

    Pope Henderson
    TAA Lundstram Kelly Soy Rico
    Mane Alli Son KdB Cantwell
    Jimmenez Ings Vardy

  23. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Lost 11 points with ny transfers this week. Also got Greenwood and Rico on bench. Kelly 1st on bench.
    Good news Salah (C) and KDB.

  24. Regin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Repost. Pulisic out for
    A. Grealish
    B. Moura
    C. Martial

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      C

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        He kids. You kid right?

  25. nerd_is_the_werd
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone captained De Bruyne (c)?

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Was THIS close ... but Salah stole it.

  26. Regin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Tomori out for
    A. Kelly (but I'll have benching headache every week)
    B. Rico
    C. Federico Fernandez
    D. Targett

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I’m still waiting for a Tomori update ... and will be in May probably!

  27. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone thinking of using second WC soon as it’s available? Think i may have to in order to claw some pride back.

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Don’t do this

      File it away for later in the year & DGW season

  28. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    what happened to Kane, have Son and Moura had a detrimnetal effect on him?

  29. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Had to do my moves early or I would have been priced out by 0.2 :/
    I did Robbo & Hanley > Aurier and Kelly, giving me this team for next week (Kelly will be my bench player + some bench wankery deployed), GTG?

    Henderson
    TAA - Lunds - Rico
    Mane - Zaha - (A)lli - Moutinho
    Vardy - Rashford - Ings

    KDB, Aurier, Kelly, Button

  30. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Pulishit & Connolly/Mousset > Grealish & Ings/Pukki/Jimmy (-4)?

    Which ones?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Mousse out and Jimmy in looks good

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Also tempted by Pulisic > Moura

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Its tempting, but soon as he doesnt start your knees will be a nobbling. If you can accept he will have reduced mins and the odd benching, and you can handle that for 3/4 weeks then go for it. Decide how long you will give him now, and stick to it. Its pointless if you take him back out in 2 weeks.
          Lamela will be back from inury in 2 weeks tho I think

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            I’ve handled 5 consecutive blanks from Pulisic, I can handle one or two from Moura 🙂

            But not sold on the move just yet

        2. Totally Hammered
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Are you thinking Pulisic will get benched next week?

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah Lamps needs to change things, it’s entirely possible Pulisic gets benched

            1. Totally Hammered
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 4 months ago

              am contemplating the same move for a -4 my logic being that Pulisic looks set for a benching...do you think Moura has the place for now?

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 4 months ago

                i suppose Jose could go with Ndombele instead of Moura v Chelsea,like he did vs Bournemouth to shore things up - hard to know!

                But moura’s started 4 out of 5 under Jose, and he’s scored in 3 of those 4 starts...

                He’s a bit under priced at 7.0 I reckon

                1. Totally Hammered
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 4 months ago

                  I agree he is under priced at 7m especially if he keeps starting, in that position he will always get chances... I think im going to do it....I think I prefer Moura for the next few..

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 16 Years
                    6 years, 4 months ago

                    Way I see it - he can’t be any worse than Pulisic surely

                    And he’s got a good chance of being better than Grealish

                    Worth a punt for 18,19,20,21 I reckon

                    1. Totally Hammered
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      6 years, 4 months ago

                      I like your rationale MBP.....id back him to make that 4 points up over the next couple...

        3. Ask Yourself
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          I find this less appealing. You need 2 proper strikers at least given how well they’re all returning lately

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 16 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            Pulisic > Moura for FT

            Leaves enough ITB to do either Mousset or Connolly to any one of Ings, Pukki, Jimmy, just for a hit

            Pukki looked sharp v Leicester, as did Norwich, Wolves are missing Boly & conceding for fun at the minute... tempted by the Pukki Party for a double party up front

            Ings is class, but he’s going to break soon, he can’t handle this volume of minutes surely

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 4 months ago

              I know but even for free I wouldn’t feel comfortable with 2 of Mousset and connolly when you could have Jimmy.
              I have ings and sort of agree. Really hate how he has to do it all himself in that team too.
              Pukki could be gold however be careful as he played second half with a broken toe. Norwich have been figured out before I am sure they will be soon again. Jimmy my pick looks great and the moves are nice, prefer grealish to Moura too.

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 16 Years
                6 years, 4 months ago

                Just wary of falling into the time honoured trap of trying to force things too much

                Hits can work out well though... I like the idea of being free of Pulisic, for either Grealish or Moura - and also upgrading Mousset to one of Pukki, Ings or Jimmy - I’m pretty willing to stump up 4 points for it... I think... no urgency anyways as plenty of TV buffer to work with!

                1. Ask Yourself
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 4 months ago

                  Mate even pulisic > grealish for free is great if you are too uncomfortable to hit. Doesn’t have to be a habit but Jimmy vs norwich sounds worth the hit. But again Mousset seems to haul when we least expect him to so maybe holding for now is sensible, Brighton aren’t exactly solid

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 16 Years
                    6 years, 4 months ago

                    Going to spend a bit of time in the members area comparing them all & think on it for a few days

                    Initial thoughts are definitely leaning towards Pulisic, Mousset > Moura, Pukki

                    It’s amazing how those initial thoughts can evolve as the week progresses though

                    1. have you seen cyan
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 4 months ago

                      Does Pukki have a broken toe? Is he not out?

                      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        6 years, 4 months ago

                        He played with it today, second half

                      2. have you seen cyan
                        • 6 Years
                        6 years, 4 months ago

                        I know, but I dont think its what the doctor would order lol