Scout Notes
27 September 2020 2175 comments
DavidMunday815 DavidMunday815
Share:

West Brom 3-3 Chelsea

  • Goals: Callum Robinson x2 (£5.5m), Kyle Bartley (£4.5m) | Mason Mount (£6.9m), Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m), Tammy Abraham (£7.3m)
  • Assists: Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), Darnell Furlong (£4.5m) | Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m), Kai Havertz (£8.4m), Mount
  • Bonus points: C Robinson x3, Mount x2, Reece James x1 (£5.1m)

Timo Werner (£9.4m) remains goalless in the Premier League after Chelsea’s trip to West Bromwich Albion did not go according to plan.

The German international had been understandably turned to by 800,000+ Fantasy Premier League managers for the Gameweek 3 captaincy only to be rewarded with nothing more than a two-point score.

As some start to lose patience in Werner, it serves to analyse what went wrong for him on Saturday evening as there were, admittedly, some mitigating circumstances behind his first blank of the campaign.

Tammy Abraham’s (£7.3m) impressive EFL Cup performance midweek was enough to convince Frank Lampard to hand the centre-forward role to him at the Hawthorns, which shifted Werner onto the left-hand side of a 4-2-3-1.

That left him with less time in the penalty box than his 35% ownership would have liked, but Chelsea’s abysmal start to the game in defence did not help him either.

The Blues gifted three goals to West Bromwich Albion inside the first 27 minutes which eased any pressure on the hosts considerably. Each time Chelsea conceded, the Baggies sat deeper and deeper inside their five-man defence and bank of four midfielders, making life much harder for any visiting attacker to find some space.

That said, there was one moment in the first half that Werner and his owners will view with regret. In the 14th minute, Mason Mount (£6.9m) finally managed to find some space around the back of left-back Conor Townsend (£4.5m), squaring to Werner, who crashed his short-range shot against Sam Johnstone‘s (£4.5m) crossbar.

Chelsea’s issues in other areas of the team then counted against Werner in the second half as Cesar Azpilicueta (£5.9m) replaced Marcos Alonso (£6.0m) and winger Callum Hudson-Odoi (£5.8m) came on for Mateo Kovačić (£5.5m).

With Hudson-Odoi on the pitch, who prefers to operate on the left-flank of attacking midfield as an inside forward, Lampard catered that with his formation tweak, shifting Werner onto the right-hand side.

“Callum (Hudson-Odoi) gave me everything I asked and wanted from him in terms of his ability to go one-on-one, trying to take people on. He got his goal. That’s what Callum needs to do. That’s the sort of impact he can have for us and it has to be consistent. He gave himself a great platform now to continue in that vain. He’ll be very important for us if he does.” – Frank Lampard

And when Olivier Giroud (£6.9m) took to the field in the place of Thiago Silva (£5.5m), enabling Lampard to pair the Frenchman with Abraham up-front in a 3-5-2, Werner was even further away from the danger areas.

During the final 15 minutes of the game, the only opportunity Chelsea’s number 11 had was when he emerged unmarked at the back post following a corner, only to see his powerful shot blocked by Kyle Bartley (£4.5m).

Would Chelsea have had to make these slew of changes to their side had they not gone 3-0 down in the opening half-an-hour? Almost certainly not. Would Werner have been better suited to this game had West Bromwich Albion not retreated into a deep block after a perfect start to the game? Almost certainly.

Perhaps that is the question his owners should consider ahead of the visit of Crystal Palace to Stamford Bridge in Gameweek 4. And even if Werner is deployed on the left-hand side of Chelsea’s attack again for that match, the Eagles’ have struggled to defend that area of the pitch in recent months. As Jan Sienkiewicz reminded us in a recent Captain Sensible article, the following left-sided players registered at least one attacking return facing them during Project Restart:

  • Sadio Mané (£11.9m) – goal
  • Harvey Barnes (£7.0m) – two assists
  • Christian Pulisic (£8.3m) – goal
  • Daniel Podence (£5.6m) – goal
  • Marcus Rashford (£9.5m) – goal and assist

Furthermore, the fitness of Pulisic and Hakim Ziyech (£7.9m) remain in the equation for Werner’s Fantasy appeal. The penetrative runs offered by the American, and Ziyech’s exceptionally creative abilities would have been the perfect tools to break down West Bromwich Albion’s deep block on Saturday, and could be important when facing Palace in Gameweek 4 – something to keep an eye on in Lampard’s upcoming press conferences.

Meanwhile, owners of Kai Havertz (£8.4m) are likely at a crossroads following his contribution to this game. Like Werner, the disastrous start to the game for Chelsea did take its toll, but a chance to operate as a number 10 produced the German’s best performance in a Premier League game so far.

Admittedly, he was making that improvement from a low base, but there were still encouraging signs. The question is: has it come soon enough for his 8.8% ownership to retain their faith for one more week.

In the 10th minute, Havertz picked the ball up on the right-hand edge of the penalty box and unleashed a powerful curling effort. Johnstone could not hold onto it, forced to punch it clear.

Then in the closing stages, the former Bayer Leverkusen man found some space in a central area of the penalty box, but his deflected shot went out for a corner.

And it was his link-up with Hudson-Odoi that got Chelsea closer to their hard-earned point in the 70th minute. That assist was his first attacking return of the season, making four a five-point score. Considering the interest in Blues assets this week, that is certainly less than was probably expected by his owners.

Chelsea’s ongoing defensive issues did not help Reece James‘ (£5.1m) Fantasy appeal, who has now blanked in two of his three Premier League outings this season.

Just as was the case against Brighton in Gameweek 1, the Blues were weakest in the full-back areas, and West Bromwich Albion were ruthless in capitalising on that at the Hawthorns.

In the fourth minute, a poor defensive header from Alonso landed at the feet of Matheus Pereira (£6.0m), who slid his pass across to Callum Robinson (£5.5m), who had escaped from James’ notice. He fired an effort across Willy Caballero (£4.9m) into the bottom corner, securing a third attacking return in as many matches for Pereira.

“I didn’t blame the players, I stated the facts on the clear mistakes that led to the goals. It is always going to be difficult in a game like this. It is not a tactical moment, it is a turnover in possession which we spoke about before.” – Frank Lampard

It may also be a little while until Silva adds much-needed stability to Chelsea’s backline as he slipped and gifted possession to Robinson for the third goal. It was Alonso who lost Bartley for the third goal, although it was poor awareness from James that played the West Bromwich Albion defender onside.

“Thiago Silva is going to be fantastic for us. He has been incredible in his career and absolutely, I will not look at him. I can talk about the mistakes, they are clear and I am open and honest about that. We are a team but we have to react around that and, to be fair, the team did in the second half. But, there is nothing on Thiago, I am sure he will stand up and say it was a mistake. But other than that, I thought he was pretty faultless in the game.” – Frank Lampard

Chelsea were much more secure with Azpilicueta coming on at left-back and they should have Edouard Mendy (£5.0m) in goal by the time they face Crystal Palace. Chelsea traditionally more porous in away games, having conceded 42 goals in 21 road trips since the start of last season, more than any other Premier League side since the start of last season. Although the Eagles might not be the best side to face at home right now, as Roy Hodgson’s men have recently developed a propensity for frustrating top-six sides on their own turf.

Meanwhile, the quality of James’ attacking contributions were not quite up to his usual standard at the Hawthorns.

His best pass arrived at the foot of Abraham in the 11th minute, which the striker skied horribly, but aside from that, James’ delivery was all about quantity and not quality. While he fired in a slew of crosses into the box all night, against a three-man defence, he struggled to find his team-mates too often.

Furthermore, James’ delivery from corners was also rather substandard, Chelsea offering much more in that department once Mount took over responsibility for them. As has been mentioned before, James is likely to lose corners and indirect free-kicks from his locker as soon as Ziyech returns to fitness anyway.

West Bromwich Albion XI (5-4-1): Johnstone; C Townsend, O’Shea, Bartley, Ajayi, Furlong; Diangana (M Phillips 74′), Sawyers, Livermore, M Pereira (Field 90+1′); C Robinson (Robson-Kanu 66′).

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): Caballero; Alonso (Azpilicueta 46′), T Silva (Giroud 73′), Christensen, R James; Kovačić (Hudson-Odoi 46′), Kanté; Werner, Havertz, Mount; Abraham.

PREMIUM MEMBERS ANALYSIS

PREMIUM MEMBERS HOME PAGE

Lessons Learned from FPL Gameweek 3

GET IN-GAME DATA AT LIVE FPL

Check your own rank and in-play FPL stats on LiveFPL.net every Gameweek

2,175 Comments Login to Post a Comment
  1. Agger
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Does the fixture difficulty rating ever get modified? The top 4 teams going to Sheffield United is 4 rating. Fair enough last season but they aren’t very good this season..

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      6 years, 26 days ago

      dont think it does but might be wrong

    2. Agger
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Sterling v shu is 4
      Sterling v whu is 2

    3. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Very fair comment

    4. FPL Theorist
      6 years, 26 days ago

      It does, but it takes way too long before they do.

    5. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      I think there's no point changing it couple games into new season, ticker is based on last season performance, same as players' prices etc. It is all arbitrary in the end, if you think they are easy fixture you can change it yourself.

    6. Begbie.
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Definitely does change over time.

    7. Clintymints
      6 years, 26 days ago

      The colour coded system is way off and gone and away doesn’t matter anymore. Each fixture has to be individually checked imo with the pros and cons for each team

      1. Clintymints
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Home*

  2. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Hi folks. 4m OR or so. Don't ask how..
    What the heck do I do?

    Guaita
    TAA / James / Saiss
    Salah / KDB / Son* / Foden / Podence*
    Jimenez / DCL

    Forster // Lamptey / Mitchell / Brewster

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Just Son out.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Not sure for whom. For Foden's spot I was originally looking at Barnes.

        But I don't trust my own judgement anymore!

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          6 years, 26 days ago

          I'd wait til Friday and take the drops.

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      6 years, 26 days ago

      ft? mitb?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 26 days ago

        0.4 ITB 1 FT.

    3. fish&chips
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Team is fine. Relax, the points will come. Just deal with son

    4. Begbie.
      6 years, 26 days ago

      I thought I seen you say something about an Abraham punt yesterday?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        6 years, 26 days ago

        I was very tempted by it. Would have been in DCLs spot, so negligible - just saved myself chasing a price rise.

    5. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Keep calm, deal with Son, maybe swap him for Barnes.

  3. HD7
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Already did Martial to Jimi...

    Mccarthy
    TAA Taylor Justin Davies
    Salah Son* Hamez Zaha
    Jimi Werner

    Button Egan Bissouma Brewster

    A) Son to Bruno (-4)
    B) WC

    1. jimmy.floyd
      6 years, 26 days ago

      A

  4. ClaireT
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Repost

    Werner & ASM to Vardy and Pereira for -4 now, or something different?

    McCarthy, Button
    TAA, Justin, Saiss, Holding, Lascelles
    Fernandes, ASM, Foden, Salah, Reed
    DCL, Jimi, Werner

    1. yalala
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Vardy and Pereira both take pens and are therefore good choices

      1. ClaireT
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Thank you, would you say to make the transfers now or wait until after the midweek games?

        1. yalala
          6 years, 26 days ago

          Wait if you can, unless Werner ASM drop or Vardy Pereira rise

          1. ClaireT
            6 years, 26 days ago

            Thank you 🙂

    2. Kay317
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Can't be sure Vardy will be ok for next game

  5. Nightcrawler
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Lewis to TAA worth -4?

    Will wait for arsenal game first

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Not the way this season is going. 3m in attack might be better.

  6. Taegugk Warrior
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Son to
    A. Zaha
    B. Bruno

    1. yalala
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Penandes

    2. Begbie.
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Given how mental the penalty situation this season I think B is a no brainer.

  7. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Son, Brewster > Stephens, Ings -4?

    Would give me...

    Martinez
    Semedo, Saiss, James
    Sterling, KDB, Foden, Hamez
    Jimenez, Ings, DCL

    Steer, Lamptey, Mitchell, Stephens

  8. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Is it just a bad week or do I have fundamental issues with this team ( 15 points so far and heading for worst ever week) ?

    Martinez
    TAA James Saïss
    Salah KDB Foden Podence
    Werner Jiménez DCL

    Forster Lamptey Burke Mitchell

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Bad week, next GW is the test.

    2. Puntillimon
      6 years, 26 days ago

      No fundamental issues. Just a bad week.

    3. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Decent team - Few could have foreseen what happened this weekend.

  9. nevermind
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Week 1: five players scored 2 points, two scored 1,
    week 2: four players scored 1 point, one scored 0,
    week 3 wildcard: Jimenez & Saiss 0 points, 8 players + capt = 18 points
    YouTube suggested this to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqTcHtSSfUE - smiled

  10. Simon69
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Missed the West Ham v Wolves game... Wolves poor or were Moyeseh's boys decent for a change? Can imagine Wolves bouncing back massively vs Fulham after that scoreline.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Both.

      Nuno summed it up well - https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/54320230

      1. Simon69
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Thanks for this. Super interesting - A rare interview where he is genuinely disappointed in his players.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          6 years, 26 days ago

          Hard to be happy after a 4-0
          Sheff Utd in GW1 papering the cracks, City was decent with attack but still conceded 3.

          1. Simon69
            6 years, 26 days ago

            True. Perhaps not time to triple up despite fixtures.

  11. PocketZola
    6 years, 26 days ago

    1ft 4.5mil itb

    Wc or son->kdb?

    McCarthy
    Tierney justin taa
    Salah son jrod podence
    Dcl adams werner

    Subs, nylan, taylor, mitchell, bisouma

    1. A-L
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Son to KDB, that team doesn't need a wildcard

  12. norab
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Son's replacement in our teams has to be Zaha doesn't it? I mean look at the stats and the fixtures. And on the almighty pens as well.

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Wouldn't say its that clear cut. Have to say I never have any desire to own him - Too hot and cold.

  13. Shark Team
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Gw6 is the best gw to have 2 FTs.
    Just saying. Managers will work into their teams' tactics(and new signings) during the int/nal break so gw5 will show us which are the standout picks.

    1. Puntillimon
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Perhaps the best week for a wildcard then for those who haven’t used it yet

  14. Esraj
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Blanks in GW1
    Scores 4 goals in GW2
    Substituted at half-time in GW3
    Out for a month

    That's some season for Son.

    1. yalala
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Still better than Werner

  15. All about the galacticos
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Anyone for Bamford vs leaky city defence?

  16. Puntillimon
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Should I do son and Kane —> vardy and sterling for a -8?

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      I'd keep Kane for United but ultimately possibly worth it if you can't afford Raheem without.

  17. yalala
    6 years, 26 days ago

    I'm captaining Jimmy again

  18. Nice to Finally Michu
    6 years, 26 days ago

    How did Semedo look? Shaw > Semedo a decent use of a transfer?

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Didn't see the game but I'd say so - Telles deal is close so Shaw'll be facing competition shortly.

      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        6 years, 26 days ago

        my thoughts there too

  19. Bleh
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Didn’t watch the game, how did Wolves look? Was Jimenez getting in good positions/getting decent service or should I be looking at Vardy instead?

    1. Hurnt
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Off day for wolves

      Jiménez has great run of fixtures with no Europe football to get in the way

      100% get him in

      1. Bleh
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Brill thanks!

    2. TheCurseOfRaheem
      6 years, 26 days ago

      There are problems with Wolves under this new system. Jimenez will always be great value but I’m concerned by how bad their midfield is with Moutinho and Neves the central 2. They have no players getting into the box and Jimi is quite isolated.

      1. Bleh
        6 years, 26 days ago

        That’s what’s worrying me. Watched Leicester today and they looked great as an attacking unit. Not sure if Wolves are at the same level right now.

  20. ZLNR
    6 years, 26 days ago

    McCarthy
    TAA/VVD/walker-peters/Doherty/Justin
    Rodriguez/Salah/Aubameyang
    DCL/Martial

    Nyland ASM/Stephens/vassilev

    1FT 0.3M

    Big at the back hasn't been terrible so far I'm out performing ML in terms of clean sheets so I'm looking for a city asset really.
    Auba-> KDB after tomorrow's game?

    1. ZLNR
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Or who to switch ASM to as I'd rather not play 5 defenders all weeks

  21. SpaceCadet
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Any suggestions for this team? 1ft, 0.5m itb. Play wc this gw?

    mccarthy
    taa davies taylor
    salah auba bruno soucek
    ings dcl mitro

    nyland mitchell Egan bissouma

    1. SpaceCadet
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Sorry Auba is kdb

    2. ZLNR
      6 years, 26 days ago

      I'm similar in some ways and think it looks missing a city asset

      I'd save WC

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Who would you lose outside Davies & Egan?

      1. SpaceCadet
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Not sure mate. Just feel I need some Chelsea, wolves and Leicester attack.

    4. yalala
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Save the WC, might even be ok rolling the FT. Davies to Castagne if you must

      1. SpaceCadet
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Cheers

  22. tc93
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Injury news on Son? And will Podence start next week?

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Son out for a number of weeks with a hamstring injury.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Minor injury for Podence, hopefully back next GW.

  23. doppelganger
    6 years, 26 days ago

    What you think on Son - Barnes ?
    Team is

    Guaita Steer
    Trent Saiss Mitchell Justin Dunne
    Salah KDB Zaha Son * Reed
    Mitrovic DCL Jimenez

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Excellent move. I'm a Barnes owner and he looks dangerous - Shots in box numbers are among highest in the league.

      1. doppelganger
        6 years, 26 days ago

        he will explode next 2

        1. Simon69
          6 years, 26 days ago

          Annual hatty incoming. Was disgusted to get zero returns today.

          1. doppelganger
            6 years, 26 days ago

            I am on 14 points and Salah c , Trent and Mitro to play . Got wrecked, so bad start but season is long.
            Winter is coming !

            1. Simon69
              6 years, 26 days ago

              Unlucky but think Liverpool will win comfortably + Mitro could easily grab something against Villa.

  24. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Vardy or Ings in for Son?

    To give me Jiménez, DCL, Vardy/Ings

    1. ZLNR
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Vardy for me

    2. All about the galacticos
      6 years, 26 days ago

      you comparing 10m vs 8.6m, so obv i'd go for Vardy

      1. Simon69
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Name checks out.

        1. All about the galacticos
          6 years, 26 days ago

          of course, hand over that cheque book

  25. ZLNR
    6 years, 26 days ago

    McCarthy
    TAA/VVD/walker-peters/Doherty/Justin
    Rodriguez/Salah/Aubameyang
    DCL/Martial

    Nyland ASM/Stephens/vassilev

    1. Auba- KDB
    2. ASM - ?

    1 ft 0.3m ITB

  26. Totti
    6 years, 26 days ago

    does fantasyfootballfix site is accurate?

    as they said that son will drop tonight

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Don't think any are accurate enough.

      1. Totti
        6 years, 26 days ago

        thanks mate
        really i have to wait
        can't take decision tonight
        even he dropped will wait

  27. Gashead9
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Who is on pens for WBA?

    1. Klaren
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Hal Robson Kanu and Charlie Austin but given they aren't starting not sure. Maybe Pereira but just a guess.

      1. Gashead9
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Thanks. Perreira looks value at 6.0 as it is, pens would be a huge bonus

        1. Klaren
          6 years, 26 days ago

          It's just my best guess though, definitely not a certain. Austin, Robson Kanu and Zohore took all their pens last season so we don't have any data to go from.

          But Diangana, Robinson and Livermore have never taken penalties in their careers and since Pereira is their set piece taker, it just seems like the most likely option.

          1. Gashead9
            6 years, 26 days ago

            Good logic, thanks.

  28. TheCurseOfRaheem
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Romain Saiss is a woeful footballer.

    1. All about the galacticos
      6 years, 26 days ago

      a scout pick and must-have only 3 days ago

      1. TheCurseOfRaheem
        6 years, 26 days ago

        Yeh decent fantasy option but an awful footballer in real life.

        1. All about the galacticos
          6 years, 26 days ago

          wanted for own team, but couldn't transfer as was priced out early

  29. Avery
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Best midfield for 6 million?
    Here is what I was thinking..
    I am kind of thinking Thiago with possibly better immediate term fixtures and to be a little different

    A. Thiago
    B. Podence
    C. Pereira
    D. Townsend
    E. Costa/Klich

    Thank you

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Thiago will assist the assister more often than not. Don’t think he will be reliable fantasy option

    2. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Podence

  30. Klaren
    6 years, 26 days ago

    Seeing that Mourinho didn't rotate too much in Europa League so far, if he continues limited rotation this week, they might get shattered by the time they play Man Utd. It will be their 4th match in a week.

    Man Utd's fixture after that is Newcastle who also looked terrible. For those looking at Son replacements, United mids could be a good option.

    1. Simon69
      6 years, 26 days ago

      Bruno is an excellent pick regardless of fixtures imo.