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30 September 2020 388 comments
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It’s fair to say that I’m still very much learning as I go with Football Index (FI).

For those of you, like me, new to the concept, FI is a kind of stock market where people use real money to bet on footballers, with the value of these shares then going up or down based on market forces.

Over the first three weeks of the season, I’ve learned that the sell price – when you sell your shares in a player directly back to FI – generally lags way behind the buy price to stop people from disrupting the market with too much short-term trading.

But I’ve now discovered a way to do just that or at least to try and make money on players I have bet on, despite their low quick sell prices: FI gives you the option to trade with your fellow users as well as with their ‘official’ market.

So if you can find a trader willing to buy or sell shares in a player at a price you set, then the transaction happens.

Last week, I wrote about waiting for the right moment to sell Everton’s free-scoring Dominic Calvert-Lewin as I couldn’t see how his run of goals was sustainable. I was, of course, dead wrong about that as he scored again at Selhurst Park on Saturday.

But I’d sold him by them anyway – and at a price way beyond what I would have got from a quick sale back to FI.

I’d bought into him at £1.85 and enjoyed 40p per share in dividends while watching his price shoot up to the £2.30 mark. But his quick sell price, while rising as last week went on, was around £2.10. This would still mean a decent profit for me, but I felt like there was more to be had.

So I pressed the ‘Sell’ button and used the function to set my own price, which was far closer to the buy price – but only if fellow traders took the bait. And that they did, handing me nearly 40p per share profit, rather than the 25p I’d have made selling back to FI direct.

This got me into a small, if positive, lather as I promptly started trying out the same function, but this time setting buy prices for players I wanted to bet on.

Lo and behold, someone bit when I offered £1.60 per share for Wolves striker Raul Jimenez, who was on the market at £1.83, but would have made his owners just £1.56 per share if they’d used the quick sell option.

I decided I wanted Jimenez for the medium term at least as Wolves have a good run of fixtures over the next four rounds, but I could have sold him for a profit within two days if I’d really wanted a shorter-term bet.

This may, or may not, be something I explore as the season progresses.

For now, I suspect it was beginner’s luck and I’m happy to hold on to Jimenez and Danny Ings, who I also bought from a trader at a relatively knockdown price. The Southampton striker has already earned me 10p per share in dividends as well.

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Well, that really depends on freeing up some money from elsewhere.
My portfolio is not exactly bulging, but there are too many long-term options (Aubameyang, hopefully, and Rodrigo from Leeds if we gloss over his poor start) so I need to sell.

Callum Wilson is the obvious fall guy, and I would have sold him last week if I could have got anywhere above the £1.01 I bought him at – his buy and sell prices at the time of writing are £1.10 and 70p respectively.

If funds allow, I might take a bet on a West Brom player as the Baggies have a great schedule (sou | BUR | bha | ful | TOT), with Callum Robinson, at around 80p, a potential bargain if he can build on his two goals against Chelsea.

And I could always buy back into Everton’s stars now I know how to play the field. Sort of.


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  1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Thinking of bank a transfer or should I do one of the below

    Mitro > DCL
    Werner > Jimi/Ings

    McCarthy
    KWP, TAA, Vinagre, James
    Salah, KDB (C), Bruno (VC), Soucek,
    Werner, Mitro

    Nyland, Mitchell, Brewster, Harrison

    1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      First page w*****

    2. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Both are good, prefer the first

  2. xHaTr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    If Podence is ruled out of GW4, which move is better for FT

    A: Podence to Klich

    B: Werner to Ings

    C: Save

    1. McSauce
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      C

    2. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Not up to date with injury but could be back after IB?
      If so and you can field 11 i'd save

    3. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      C if you have a playing bench.

  3. Van der Faart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Worth it for -8?

    Werner, Son, Bavies out to

    DCL, Bruno, Castagne

    1. 2OLEgend
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      I would pull the trigger on those moves, yes

    2. The Handsome Hunk
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      only first 2

  4. Kloptimus Prime
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Anyone tripling up on Man City - KDB, Foden and Mahrez?

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      I had tripled up last week itself - KDB, Sterling and Foden

      1. Kloptimus Prime
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Not sure whether to go Mahrez, Barnes, Zaha or JRod for Son replacement

        1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          Difficult decision that. I would go Mahrez if I had DCL. Zaha has fixtures but is moody. Barnes operates in patches.

  5. anish10
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Which one?

    A) Soucek
    B) Klich
    C) Harrison

    1. Kannbury
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      B.

  6. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    whats the deal with dunne? i know hes in for tark and mee - mee seems to have no return date, tark may be going to leicester. any chance he cements that spot?

    1. HD7
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Hope so

  7. HD7
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    On WC:
    Anything you would change, particularly in defence or the forwards?

    Mccarthy
    TAA Justin Semedo Dunne
    Salah KDB Hamez Zaha
    Vardy Jimi

    Button Mitchell Stephens Davis

  8. Malinwa
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Need some WC help here...
    A or B ?

    A)
    Martinez
    Justin - TAA - James - Saïs
    KDB - Salah(c) - Havertz
    Ings - Jimenez - Bamford

    Steer - Mitchell - Anguissa - Klich
    0.1 itb

    B)
    Martinez
    Justin - TAA - James - Saïs
    KDB - Salah(c) - Barnes
    Richarlison - Jimenez - Ings

    Steer - Mitchell - Anguissa - Mendy
    0.4 itb

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Prefer B

    2. SINGH
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      B in my opinion.

      Also you are captaining Salah? Villa look strong defensively.

      1. Malinwa
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Who would you advice? KDB ?

        1. SINGH
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          I am looking at KDB as well. I have Salah but feel Villa will keep the score down.

  9. Liberate HK - antichinazi
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Barkley @ 5.9 becomes interesting now

    1. gergin
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Not interested even @4.5.

    2. Lazaretti
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      If they loan or sell him then yes

      1. Liberate HK - antichinazi
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Loaned to Aston Villa

  10. SINGH
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    bottomed

    GUYS RMT PLEASE

    MARTINEZ
    ROBBO TAYLOR SAISS
    SALAH KDB GREENWOOD BARNES HAVERTZ
    JIMI DCL

    FORSTER LAMPTEY DAVIS FERUSSON

    THANKS

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      ... ssshhh ....

      nice team

  11. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Worth sacrificing taa on wildcard to get this front 7? Would be for 2 weeks and then get him back

    Salah kdb Mahrez Barnes
    Ings Jiménez DCL

    1. SINGH
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Yes

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Thanks

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Try not to plan moves on a WC, just get the players you want long term.

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Yep that is a fair point. Not normally what I do but just want to squeeze in too many good mid/forwards

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      surely you can afford that front line and TAA?

      I would down grade one Ings to Wilson or Bamford otherwise

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Leaves me 24m on defence - or 16.5m on 4 defenders if I get taa. Not gonna work! Ings is going no where but Mahrez is maybe a luxury but so much upside at just 8.4

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          In which case I would restructure your midfield and keep TAA - he is better value and may outscore all your attackers

        2. The Handsome Hunk
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          Go for Robbo then

  12. stu92
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Worth selling Martial to jump on DCL before another price rise?

    1. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Martial has looked awful so yes I'd sell

  13. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    A. Werner to Jimenez
    B. Werner and Saiss to Maupay and Robbo (-4)
    C. Werner and Mitro to Jimenez and Maupay (-4)

    Those are the only moves I'm currently thinking so it is possible I can just save the ft.

    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      B

    2. 2OLEgend
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      A by a mile

  14. thepirates
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    McCarthy
    Shaw - TAA - Walker Peters - Justin
    Sterling - Fernandes - Salah
    Mitrovic - Adams - Werner

    Bench: Saint-Maximin - Mitchell - Bissouma

    Contemplating activate that WC, would you? Off to a bad start.

    If holding on WC, thinking of doing Werner + SAM to Jimmy & Trossard (-4).

  15. The real slim shady
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Grealish, Zaha, Jrod, Kane. Who to drop to get a City player?
    Or should I even drop anyone?

    1. HD7
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Grealish maybe and get him back when fixs are nice

  16. HD7
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Mccarthy
    TAA Semedo - Dunne
    Salah KDB Hamez -
    Vardy Jimi

    Button Mitchell Stephens Davis

    A) Justin Zaha
    B) Castagne Townsend

  17. Bagayokeso
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Ings, Richarlison, DCL Jiminez - If you had to pick a 2 man combo, who have you got?

    1. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Richarlison and Jimenez

    2. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Jimi and Ings

    3. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Jimi and dcl

    4. HD7
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Jimi Vardy
      I dont think DCL next couple of matches after Brighton are that great. It depends if you rate Everton to be consistent. Ings is a tricky one

      1. Hansel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Nothing tricky about 22 goals and bonus magnet last year already on 3 goals

    5. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Jimenez and Ings

  18. Fit_to_drop
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Views on this WC selection?

    Guiata
    Robbo Trent Justin
    KDB Mane Townsend Klich/Podence
    Bamford Vardy Wilson

    Nyland Lamptey, Podence/Klich, Mitchell

  19. ElliotJHP
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Draft one here, who to start?

    A) Gomez (avl)
    B) Boly (FUL)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      B

  20. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Dier owners are your worried about him starting the next game after that incident when he had to sh**t and didn't tell Jose about it?

  21. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Thoughts on this WC Template?

    4.5 4.0
    Trent, Semi premium defender, 4.5x2, 4.0
    Pen takerx4, 4.5 fodder
    Pen takerx3

    Example:
    Martinez Steer
    Trent Robbo Lamptey Ayling Ferguson
    Salah KDB Zaha Klich Bissouma
    Jimi Ings Mitro

    1. PocketZola
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Waste of a wc

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      It's fine but will need active management of Mitro/Zaha/Klich depending on form and fixtures

  22. Rotation's Alter Ego
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    New Community Article

    Who doesn't love Greyheads weekly roundup of the Great and the Good? Latest look is up now, for a week where nothing really went to plan. Perfect for a Wednesday lunch break read.

    https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2020/09/30/learning-from-the-great-and-the-good-20-21-gameweek-3/

  23. Malinwa
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Captain this week?

    A) Ings
    B) Jimenez
    C) Richarlison
    D) KDB
    E) Salah

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      A or D

    2. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Salah from those

    3. Gunners in Haaland
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      D or E

    4. Mighty Banana
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      D) KDB

    5. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      E

    6. Kannbury
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      D (c) E (vc)

  24. Nespinha
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    One more time boys...

    A) Doherty + Mitrovic --- KWP + DCL (-4)
    B) just save

    1. Malinwa
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      A for me

  25. MagicMessi
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    If you to Bench one only next week

    Jimi (Ful)
    Vardy (Whm)
    Ings (WBA)
    Rich (Bri)

    !!!

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Other

    2. Mighty Banana
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      I'm a little confused how you have such players not in your main squad. They shouldn't even be a consideration for benching...

    3. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      None of them. Must be another candidate in your squad.

    4. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Guys I mean pick three for next week .. sorry

      1. Mighty Banana
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        We get that, but what we're saying is none of those should be on the bench and there must be someone else in your squad who's worse than them.

        Unless you're on a WC and asking 'out of these 4, which 3 to get, perhaps?

        1. MagicMessi
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          Yea playing 3-4-3 having Vardy Jimi Richa ... but want Ings for this week

          1. Mighty Banana
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 14 days ago

            Sideways transfer imo, I'd just keep who you have.

    5. Kannbury
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Rich of the 4, but better to play all 4.

  26. BremerHB
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Which combination to fill the blanks in this WC team?

    Martinez - Steer
    TAA - X - Lamptey - KWP - Mitchell
    Salah - KDB - X - Trossard - Stephens
    DCL - Jimenez - X

    A) Robbo + Pereira + Richarlison

    B) Saiss + Pereira + Vardy

    C) Castagne + Barnes + Ings

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      C

      1. BremerHB
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Cheers!

  27. Gunners in Haaland
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Anything worth a hit or gtg?

    Martínez
    TAA Saïss Castagne
    Salah KDB Foden Mahrez Podence
    DCL Jiménez

    Steer Lamptey Mitchell Brewster

    1. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Gtg I reckon

  28. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Very interested in how Barkley ends up playing.

    1. MSTRKRFTSMN
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Surely nobody is rushing to get him in before the Liverpool game

  29. FPL Marc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    Who to leave out of Wildcard front three:

    Jimenez, Werner, Ings or Calvert-Lewin?

    1. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Werner for me

  30. Piggs Boson
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 14 days ago

    I really hope Podence is fit.

    I have 0.4m itb and I just know I'm going to be punting on Barkley(5.9) if Podence is out (5.5 sp)... Considering a Ross Barkley punt is not a situation I want to be in...

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      It's a trap

    2. MSTRKRFTSMN
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Why would you do that?

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        I'm in the minority here, but I think he's a good player.

        Traore, Graelish, McGinn are also players I rate, so I think Villa might actually have some attacking promise going forwards...

        1. MSTRKRFTSMN
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          McGinn is a much better option if you really must pick a villa midfielder. Just because a player be ones and option after a transfer doesn’t make it a good option

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 14 days ago

            Barkley is an attacking midfielder who was hitting 160pts when he played regularly.

            McGinn is a much deeper player who has never even broken 90pts.

            Not even in the same stratosphere as far as I'm concerned.

            I'm not saying I'm getting him, I'm just saying he's an option that's worth staying open-minded to and researching more deeply.

            1. MSTRKRFTSMN
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 14 days ago

              McGinn only played half of last season so not really a fair comparison in the one season you have to go off. By December last year he was probably one of the best value picks in the game

    3. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      What have I missed? Why is Barkley being considered?

      1. MSTRKRFTSMN
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        Bonkers

      2. Piggs Boson
        • 15 Years
        6 years, 14 days ago

        He's moved to Aston Villa on loan.

        1. MSTRKRFTSMN
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          So what? They have Liverpool next game and he never did anything in a decent side

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 15 Years
            6 years, 14 days ago

            He barely played at Chelsea.

        2. BremerHB
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 14 days ago

          Ah thanks! Not sure I’d want to punt on him straight away.. Pereira and Trossard probably better assets for 0.1 more.

    4. Flair
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Don't rule him out, there's a decent player in there. But punting on him so early...

    5. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 14 days ago

      Punt on WardProwse or Djenepo!. although Barkley is good if he plays .