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Kostas Tsimikas (£4.0m) is handed a first-ever Premier League start as Norwich City v Liverpool brings a busy Saturday of top-flight football to a close.

Kick-off at Carrow Road is at 17:30 BST.

An ankle injury picked up by Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) in pre-season has opened up a spot at left-back for Tsimikas, with the budget Fantasy Premier League (FPL) defender’s ownership soaring to over 23% as a result.

There are no real shocks in the Liverpool line-up, with Diogo Jota (£7.5m) getting the nod over Roberto Firmino (£9.0m) to lead the visitors’ attack.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), FPL’s most-owned midfielder, and Sadio Mane (£12.0m) flank Jota up top.

Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) is part of a back four that includes Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m), who makes his first Liverpool appearance since suffering a knee ligament injury last October.

Jordan Henderson (£5.0m) and Thiago Alcantara (£5.5m) are both absent after late returns to pre-season training.

Budget FPL defender Andrew Omobamidele (£4.0m), who played every single minute of Norwich’s pre-season friendlies, misses out with tonsillitis tonight.

Daniel Farke has opted for a back four after a late dalliance with a wing-back system in pre-season.

Chelsea loanee and bargain-bin FPL midfielder Billy Gilmour (£4.5m) is handed his competitive Norwich debut.

LINE-UPS

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Gibson, Hanley, Giannoulis, Rupp, Gilmour, Cantwell, Lees-Melou, Rashica, Pukki,

Subs: Gunn, Zimmermann, Dowell, Tzolis, Sorensen, McLean, Sargent, Mumba, Idah

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Tsimikas, Keita, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Jota, Mane

Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Konate, Firmino, Gomez, Minamino, Origi, Woodburn, Elliot

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  1. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Too bad Tsimi will have to go during int'l break.

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Very true, lucky we’ve seen a few 4.0 starters today though as potential replacements

    2. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He's probably only worth 70 minutes. Fell asleep for a second there 😉

    3. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      he wont go anywhere until the wildcard. luxury transfer that

  2. shiraz
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    97 with antonio left. Hopefully can hit 100

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Jeez! Wow nice

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Lovely stuff. 81 here with Antonio and Gundo left, can't complain.

  3. Galza
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    70 points with Son + Coufal to go.

    I would of bitten your hand for that after the Leeds game with my BruNo team…

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Hello BruNo’s

    2. Von Lipwig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Same boat. 68 with Antonio + Mahrez. Such a damn shame Bruno ruined our brilliant plans though 🙂

      1. Galza
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I’m sticking with mine.
        I’ve got Sancho in my team primed for Southampton. 🙂

  4. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    So Greenwood and Jota both grab a goal. The bar is set for the Gundog.

    1. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not worried he'll play further back than the position he started getting pts from last season?

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Nope.

        Preseason and the Shield showed us that Pep is going to persist with the inverted fullbacks. So much so he even forced Mendy to play that way, that's how much he wants it. That means the wingers need to hold the width and the 8s need to get forward. Enter the Gundog.

        1. Bartowski
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Could be useful spare cash if I downgraded Mahrez to him but won't his position be affected once De Bruyne and Grealish are back up and running? More chance of the ball being given to them to make the play?

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Not sure. I think it depends on Kane.

  5. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Forget about Grealish, Sancho, Lukaku etc, Haaland was involved in 5 goals against Top flight team Eintracht Frankfurt today. Paying so much for English biased players this year, he’ll be lost and unavailable for PL forever, Real Madrid will get him then.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Dortmund refused to sell. And didn't he say that he wants to play in the Premier League recently?

      I think the stage is set for United next year. He's in regular contact with Ole, he adores Sancho, and United will be in need of a striker when Cavani's contract expires. He would suit their system.

      1. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yep there's a reason Man City and Chelsea have tried to fill that void already.

      2. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Could well be. But if Chelsea really wanted him, why pay the same amount for pl up and down Lukaku?

      3. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Will be A perfect buildt team for Ole then over some years. Completed.

      4. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        If we win either of PL or CL, he will be ours imo

    2. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Eintracht... Leeds it ain't.

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Not leaky-Leads, no, Eintracht more class

  6. Drogo
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I am thinking of doing Gundo to Pogba - even with Gundo yet to play.

    Is it insane, or is it a no-brainer?

    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Def not a no-brainer with Gundog facing Norwich at home..

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Joking right?

    3. Mighty Banana
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'd log off for the night.

    4. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Just sleep on it. Pogba's 4 assists are already gone

    5. Drogo
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Gonna regret not doing this, for the entire season.

  7. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Surely the best GW1 to fate. Certainly my best ever start.

    1. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Same here

    2. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah easily

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good advert to the masses for the game

    3. mojoindojo
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      It was fated.

    4. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I went Salah less first game last year was chasing all year long!

      Think I have a few players that need to go but 89 with Antonio to go will reassess.

      1. Scots Gooner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I did the same exact thing last season with Salah and almost made the same mistake with Bruno this year.

        Glad I saw it as a risk not worth taking in the end and played it safe.

        On 89 points with Antonio too, so hopefully we can break the 100 mark. Would be the dream GW1.

  8. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    No idea how I will fit Lukaku in my team...

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Sell TAA

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Might be the way yes thanks

    2. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Can't have them all unfortunately. Doubt I can get a decent team with Salah, Bruno plus one Lukaku/Kane

  9. Q
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    What do we think the chances of greenwood and jota starting next games

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Slim

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      80% Greenwood

      40%

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood still good possibility depending on Cavani and until Rashford is back. Jota/Firmino 50/50.

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood almost certain against Saints. Ole likes playing him against the high lines, and Cavani is on a break.

      Jota, I'm not so sure. I expect Firmino...

  10. Firmino
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    So what's the consensus, who won?

    A) Team Tsimikas
    B) Team Jota

    1. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      The 4m wonder boy

    3. The Legend Squad
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Jota. Realistically no matter how good Tsimikas is, Robertson always has that spot. Jota has a great chance of displacing Firmino

      1. Firmino
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Not the way I see it. Liverpool played better with Firmino on the pitch.

        1. The Legend Squad
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Of course you’d say that 😉

        2. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Much better. He makes the team tick

    4. F4L
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A
      Would not be confident of Jota starting against Burnley. Tsimikas did enough to keep his place.

    5. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I think we will find out based on who starts upfront next week.

      You would have to hope he keeps his place after getting a goal, especially when Bobby doesn’t score at Anfield

    6. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A. The extra 3.5m will be felt

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This!

    7. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Kostas definitely. Bench for Jota next week and when Robbo returns you can easily shift on Kostas

    8. Galza
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Score draw…

    9. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Tsimi if you used the extra 3.5 wisely. I most definitely did not.

    10. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      C) Those with both

    11. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A.

      Tsimikas 6 pts vs Jota 8 pts. But that £3.5m probably goes a fair way to match those 2pt difference.

    12. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Tsimikas for me. Meant I could bring in Periera and play 4-4-2.

    13. Flekken' Hell
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Jota is the sort of player who will appear as a sub and can still score a goal. He is direct, always in the box.

      Happy with his goal. Can make a sub appearance next week. Won't sweat.

  11. The Legend Squad
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Bruno and Salah hauling means that my Torres risk is a little less risky. Need 19 points between him and Gundo tomorrow to get the 100.

    1. Silecro
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Could happen. Similar here, need 20 from Antonio, Gundogan and Coufal to hit 100

      1. The Legend Squad
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Good luck!

  12. Feloh
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    City blank and this is a good week.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      1-0 City Stones header

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      City have a horrid record at Hotspur stadium, Alli and Son dangerous, I just know Alli is gonna score, in my drafts 4 so long but bottled it

  13. Mr. O'Connell
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Ranked 27k out of 28k in fan team. Ah well, only have to concentrate on one team this season at least. £20 down the drain.

  14. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I cant believe Gundo getting 13 goals last season, I always rated him. But I remember when he signed 4 city, in his interview he specifically said, he doesnt score goals

    13 is beast levels, and 4 assist

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Played a good role when KDB was absent and the rest is history

  15. Powers106
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    75 with five to go: Coufal, Soucek, Gundo, Antonio, Wilson = something will go pear-shaped same like every year…

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      100 easy

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Hope so!

    2. Galza
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I’d say enjoy your 100pter mate.
      Well done!

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks dude!

  16. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Bobby looked excellent when he came in to be fair

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      As a Jota owner, I have serious doubts Jota starts GW2. That said 30mins in enuf to nab a goal and baps, so wont lose Jota yet

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yup

  17. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Already got 3 United, ummm!

  18. GOTHAM City F.C.
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Would you Greenwood to Pogba?

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      no

    2. Alcapaul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely not

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Nah

    4. Krafty Werks
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Nope!!

  19. Original Sin
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Want to get Pogba/greenwood by swapping Harrison/Barnes. What's the best route?
    1. Vardy --> Richarlison
    2. Ings---> dennis

    Also confused who should i get rid first as I didn't watch all the matches.

    1. Baberto
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      3. Log off for the night

  20. Chandler Bing
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Wilson and Benrahma big time differentials for tomorrow.

  21. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Will Tsimikas get the Burnley game?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Probably.

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Who else will play?

      From what I saw he looked decent

    3. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Think he is safe till Robbo heals up.

    4. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He was class. 100%

      Couple errors that Milner and VVD chewed him for but could have hauled easy

    5. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Certainly added a week or two for Robertson to recover, but my guess is til int’l break

    6. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      He did ok. Obviosly PL football is still alien to him and he did a few mistakes which i understandable but I dont see him being dropped with Milner as the next deputy.

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Right. Upside far outweighs the alternative

    7. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Just start him if u have a sub Defender. He won't come on if he doesn't start

  22. Stupendous
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Balogun to

    1. Dennis
    2. Cucho

    ?

    1. Powers106
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Just bench imo

  23. Bucky Barnes
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    So, how do we get Lukaku in without taking out Salah or Bruno

    1. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Sacrifice TAA?

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      See post above taa out might be the answer

    3. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Don’t get Trollkaku

      1. Powers106
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Agree til after a few gw

    4. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Trent + Ings to 4.0m plus Lukaku.

    5. Dragon Arcana
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Lose Trent

    6. MR Penquin
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Mane to Lukaku

      Need to see your team

  24. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Went VVd over TAA. Glad his presense made a huge difference today. But I know its a matter of time before TAA does the damage. Will have to wait for a gew games before thinking of bringing him in.

  25. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Any early thoughts on this lot?

    Sanchez
    TAA - Cash - Tsimikas
    Salah - Bruno - Greenwood - Gundogan - Barnes
    Ings - Antonio

    Foster - White - Livramento - Scarlett

    Thinking Antonio > Richarlison if Antonio blanks or save FT.

    1. Feloh
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Save.

    2. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'd probably wildcard

    3. tsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Save your ft and do a mini wc after gw2

    4. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Save for sure. White is the problem in the future.

  26. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Want to be aggressive with moves early on. Barnes to Pogba/Greenwood? Who says no?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Go for it

    2. Gomolon
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Might wanna watch City first given you could also move to Gundo/Torres

      1. Frucke
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Mahrez

    3. Frucke
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Barnes hurted me last year. I have greenwood

    4. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Patience is key. Greenwood if you really want.

    5. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Consider Jota too, looks very lovely and even if benched he always comes on and looks good for a goal

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        *lively

    6. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Barnes has Norwich in wk 3 remember.

  27. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Assuming there are a few who bench boosted with something like Sanchez (2) - Tsimikas (6) - Amartey (7) - Bissouma (2).

    If so I would call that a successful bench boost. Because 17 pts is good and especially when you think the value over the minimum is £0.5m (being £4.5m for Sanchez compared to a £4.0m GK).

    1. Salarrivederci
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Raya (8), Sarr (9), Amartey (7), Targett (0)

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Very nice. Well done!

    2. Joey Tribbiani
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I got 10 points and Im happy

  28. Pukki Party
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    56 with 3 to go. Positive thing is it's easier to get a green next week from a high rank

    1. tsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      In my mini league top10 all on mid 70’s pre bonus pts

    2. Galza
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Every cloud mate 🙂

    3. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Pukki to Armstrong are we thinking mate?
      Don’t know whether to save or make the move

      1. Pukki Party
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Season keeper

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Hehe

  29. carrjebr04
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    93 (when bonus added) with Mahrez, Benrahma and Antonio to play. Had a wildcard 1 week only Alonso pick that worked tremendously. Chilwell to come in next week do we think?

  30. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Just had a little giggle over something.

    All that commotion over the Dallas reclassification this year. And he actually got more points today as a mid than if he was a defender lol.

    Reckon he’ll gold again.

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      *be gold

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        He got a 1 in a million assist. Super low xG and started at left back.

        He will be no where near a good asset even in the 5.5mil bracket

        And i say this as a big fan of Dallas the player

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I know, but the fact he’d have scored less as a defender just gave me a little giggle lol

    2. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not really. Lack of CS will hurt him a lot.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        CS points for a def + baps it comes with

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          By the looks of today, they won’t be keeping many anyway lol

    3. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Such an obvious point I'm making here, but defenders lose points for conceding beyond 1 goal. We tend not to factor this in when assessing players and focus on a defensive classification being able to capture the upside of the 4 CS points

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        It is true, and it’s also why I try to invest most of my money in a big midfield