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Kostas Tsimikas (£4.0m) is handed a first-ever Premier League start as Norwich City v Liverpool brings a busy Saturday of top-flight football to a close.

Kick-off at Carrow Road is at 17:30 BST.

An ankle injury picked up by Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) in pre-season has opened up a spot at left-back for Tsimikas, with the budget Fantasy Premier League (FPL) defender’s ownership soaring to over 23% as a result.

There are no real shocks in the Liverpool line-up, with Diogo Jota (£7.5m) getting the nod over Roberto Firmino (£9.0m) to lead the visitors’ attack.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m), FPL’s most-owned midfielder, and Sadio Mane (£12.0m) flank Jota up top.

Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) is part of a back four that includes Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m), who makes his first Liverpool appearance since suffering a knee ligament injury last October.

Jordan Henderson (£5.0m) and Thiago Alcantara (£5.5m) are both absent after late returns to pre-season training.

Budget FPL defender Andrew Omobamidele (£4.0m), who played every single minute of Norwich’s pre-season friendlies, misses out with tonsillitis tonight.

Daniel Farke has opted for a back four after a late dalliance with a wing-back system in pre-season.

Chelsea loanee and bargain-bin FPL midfielder Billy Gilmour (£4.5m) is handed his competitive Norwich debut.

LINE-UPS

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Gibson, Hanley, Giannoulis, Rupp, Gilmour, Cantwell, Lees-Melou, Rashica, Pukki,

Subs: Gunn, Zimmermann, Dowell, Tzolis, Sorensen, McLean, Sargent, Mumba, Idah

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Tsimikas, Keita, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Jota, Mane

Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Konate, Firmino, Gomez, Minamino, Origi, Woodburn, Elliot

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  1. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    81 with Antonio and gundo to play, just looked my current it is 718495.. 81 feels like a good score but rank 🙁

    1. Simon69
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      All about the long term and your picks from here mate. So many people pick the same players for GW1 so tough to end up with a high OR. Great foundation to build on.

      1. The Final Boss
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Yeah hope so..

    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      same score here with 3 to go

      11 points from bench boost saved me. Albeit should have been 16 points but switched out Amartey almost last minute.

      1. The Final Boss
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        For who?

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Charlie Taylor of Burnley

          Wanted to cover my Brighton guys incase it went the wrong way and needed a cheap certain starter i could bench next few weeks

    3. Amartey Partey
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Thanks because a lot of people have Bruno and Salah. And there are over 6 million people.

    4. Wet Knee Houston
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      To make you feel a bit better: 236k people have played TC and 150k BB. So at least some of them are just artificially above you.

    5. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Its too early to even stare at the OR. 😀

    6. TheDragon
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      That’s a superb start. Loads will have used a chip

      If you came too 1 million gameweek rank every single gameweek you’d win FPL by a long way

    7. Gross Blank Point
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      82 and I'm on 573,000, always best to get a template 1st GW in, then start looking for the differentials after that
      If you lose out in the first week trying to be smart it's very difficult playing catch up

    8. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Dont forget some of these people near the top have dead teams - so will quickly disappear. Also, lots of high up teams will have had triple captain on Bruno - over the season that's only 20 points to make up.

    9. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      You're fine - last season's overall winner averaged 70.5.

    10. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I think we have the exact same team. I'm on 81 with Antonio and Gundo left to play 🙂

  2. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Salah and Bruno punished non owners.

    Now it's time for Son to punish them as well!

    Hattie incoming!

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Against City? Bruno v LEE, Salah v NOR

      1. Simon69
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Exactly.

      2. Zimo
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        City looked horrible against Leicester. If they start like last year hattrick wouldn't be out of the question

        1. Zimo
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Still unlikely 😛

        2. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Ok, but still

          1. Zimo
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 4 days ago

            I know i know. Odds are low. I'm expecting 1 goal tho

      3. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        We'll see. City barely had any pre-season

    2. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Haha, not even in your wild dreams. 😛

    3. Baberto
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      You can't have them all, can you?

      1. Zimo
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Indeed u can if u don't have Trent

        1. Dthinger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          I have Trent Bruno Salah and Son. Is that what you meant?

  3. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    4M playing defenders from GW1 so far, which one you bet for long-term?
    A. Tsimikas
    B. Amartey
    C. Livramento
    D. Hoever
    E. Duffy

    1. Simon69
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Hoever

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      D

    3. TheTinman
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      C

    4. Baberto
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Apart from AWB, don't remember seeing a 'long term' 4m

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Lundstram

        1. Baberto
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Yep. I completely forgot him. Was such a gem that season!

    5. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      C

    6. Elly88 > KTR (Kevin The …
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Tsimi

    7. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      C

  4. Amartey Partey
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    86 with Gundo, Benrahma, and Wilson still left to play

  5. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    This game is so easy. Salah + Bruno + Auto Fill = job done

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Level 2 will be Salah injured and Bruno have argument with Ole

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        *has

  6. TheTinman
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Didn't own Bruno and captained Jota over Salah.... Mid 60 points with Son and Benrama to go, I should be too mad right? I took a risk and got out relatively unscathed.

    1. TheTinman
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Should not...

      1. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        No but get Bruno ASAP

        1. TheTinman
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Nope can't stand the little rat faced twerp 😀

      2. Baberto
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Everything's fine. Son's gonna make up for you in the coming weeks

        1. TheTinman
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Yep hope so

  7. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    This could be the first FPL season where we've had five 4.0 defenders starting GW1

    1. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Who is that? Livramento, Tsimi, Amartey and who else?

      1. Bury94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Duffy and hoever

        1. Sgt Frank Drebin
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Thank you.

  8. Defcons are for Kinnear
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Did any hipsters go for Mane over Salah?

    1. The Legend Squad
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      In draft, but not by choice!

  9. Taff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    What happened to Veltman today? Thought he was nailed?

    1. The Final Boss
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Lacks of match fitness says fpl.

  10. Powers106
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    What about Amartey, I have him 3rd bench but was kind of a last minute addition- is he long haul or placeholder?

    1. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Won't be starting now that Vestergaard is here. Hopefully he Rises to 4.1 so don't have to Sell anytime soon

  11. Tinmen
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Evening guys, just looking a bit of advice about the draft league

    This morning I requested a transaction of DCL to Lukaku before anyone else

    Will I get Lukaku or will it go to the lowest points scorer in my mini league or something?

    1. JabariParkersEyelid
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      The lowest point scorer will have first priority.

    2. The Legend Squad
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Priority is based on reverse of league standings, not on timing I’m afraid.

      Some talk in my draft league of throwing week 1 to bag Lukaku. I may have done that, though not purposefully!

  12. Henning
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    How god or bad was Aston Villa and Buendia today?

  13. FPL_trail_runner
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Strangely the game was pretty even on xG. Shows the importance of the best finishers to a top team

    final xG: Norwich 1.25 Liverpool 2

    1. eddy..
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I agree. But much of that 1.25 probably came from the Alisson ping pong when the score was already 3 0. So also shows the importance of Alisson for clean sheets !

  14. Pukki Party
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    6 home wins and 2 away wins so far, the home crowd is back.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Love it

  15. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    So when the game began I picked taa salah bruno and literally have never replaced even for trail drafts. 6+20+17 there you go.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      + captaincy

  16. Cheeky Onion
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Veltman didn’t start today. Transfer or be patient?

    1. Stamford B
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Was it a COVID thing?

      1. Stamford B
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        No he had a knock apparently

      2. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Yep.
        https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/19514339.graham-potter-explains-reasons-behind-joel-veltman-aaron-connollys-absence/

        Will probably miss the next game but then be back. Might as well keep him. Spending a transfer on a 4.5m defender isn't the most impactful use of a FT.

        1. Cheeky Onion
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          I agree, don’t plan on playing him next week regardless. Just don’t like holding a player I know will drop in value with no money ITB

          1. Amartey Partey
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 4 days ago

            Will he drop in value with such a low ownership though?

            1. Stamford B
              • 5 Years
              5 years, 4 days ago

              Unlikely but you never know.

        2. Stamford B
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Indeed

  17. Stamford B
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    108 with Antonio left. Not a bad start.

    1. The Final Boss
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Any chips?

      1. TheDragon
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        100%

      2. Stamford B
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Bb 11 points

        1. Baberto
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          That's very impressive!

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      TC used?

    3. Joey Tribbiani
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      holy, im on 104 with Antonio left

      1. Galza
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Lovely stuff Joe. Well played!

  18. Victor6359
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Who would you bring in for Nacho? Have 8.0 to play with.

    A: Richardson
    B: ings

    Cheers

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      DCL

    2. Original Sin
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I think you meant Richarlison***?? Autocorrect

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Both good options, go with who you favour

    4. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      U got Bamford?

      1. Victor6359
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        No, no Bamford, cheers

    5. Stamford B
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Ings is two games. Rich is the most match fit player in the league.

      1. Victor6359
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Cheers fellas

    6. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      DCL imho. Good stats, Ings only had one shot (from pen).

      1. Sgt Frank Drebin
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Or Richarlison

    7. Amartey Partey
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Ings. Two home games next.

  19. Original Sin
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Which is more urgent?
    1. Harrison ---> Sarr
    2. Barnes ---> Pogba/Greenwood.

    If greenwood Game time is not a concern, I would get him rather.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      You would think after 6 years of playing you would not be asking these questions tonight

      Its week 1, you need more time and data, 12 hours ago you were happy with Harrison and Barnes.

      1. Original Sin
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Still can't get rid of the knee jerks. It's same every year 🙁
        Didn't watch the match but why everyone is disliking Barnes so much after the match? Was he that bad or he got a more defensive role?

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          I have barnes, didnt see the match

          I would advise not to read any assessment here or judge it based on comments. Its mostly over reacting and baiting

          The worst thing you can do is plan a transfer when you havent yourself assessed how the games went

          1. Original Sin
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 4 days ago

            Fair enough, holding onto FT tonight

        2. Andy1
          • 16 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Think he had a couple of chances.
          On another day he could have had 10+ points

    2. el polako
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Nothing is urgent after incomplete gw1.

    3. Mr. O'Connell
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Can't wait to sell Barnes

    4. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Save FTs

    5. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Save- Harrison home to Everton and Leicester home to West Ham decent ( before Norwich in week 3)

      1. Original Sin
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        I heard all the attacks happened on Rapinha side, so Harrison will be again a 2 pointer ? Also he didn't look that impressive??

  20. el polako
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Nice to see that fpl towers entered 21st century and changed telegraph sounders to new servers and fibre optic broadband.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Nah, I think the hamsters just gained more muscle from last year.

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      And updating the OR quick

    3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Their new ADSL is working wonders!

  21. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    No penalty yet? Shocking, where is VAR? 😛 Early last season best FPL team was 'penalty takers' team ...

    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Several incidents that would’ve been penalties. But the Villa still got one

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Was that Ings goal a pen? Apols did not watch.

        1. _Ninja_
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Yes

  22. FPL Brains
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    14th in the FantasyFootball members league and 1st in the Top 10k league.

    Not a bad start.

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      well done! how many points?

      1. FPL Brains
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        98 so far, two players to go + bonus calc 🙂

  23. JariL
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Amartey & Jota 2 pts up vs. Tsimikas & Greenwood for now. We'll see next week.

    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I don't expect Amartey and Jota start next week.

      1. JariL
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Hope so, I'm on Tsimi & Greenwood myself.

  24. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Bruno (sou) v Salah (BUR) captaincy tricky next week

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I think Bruno.

    2. Baberto
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Salah imo. Home advantage. Went from Bruno this week because of the same.

      1. Baberto
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        *for

    3. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Home man, simple

    4. Mr. O'Connell
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      It is. Glad I don't own both of them. Would hate to pick the wrong one.

    5. Amartey Partey
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Easy. Bruno.

      United are playing arguably the worst defence in the league, and Salah doesn't have a good record against Burnley.

  25. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Rolling FT. Don't see any moves to make.

  26. thorvaldsson
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    If Danny Ings only knew how he saved himself in my team with that goal...

    1. Licky
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I'm sure he wouldn't care. XD

  27. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    I swapped Jota out for tsimikas (nervous about amartey playing)

    Feels a justified swap ATM.
    I can say at the moment that other than this, none of my other punts I'd had in my team at various points have punished me! Yet...

    1. OneArseneWenger32
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      until Tsi gets sick during the week then it's a wasted transfer...

      1. Andy1
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Equally, amartey could get sick....

  28. Ser Davos
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Buendia and Barnes over Sarr/Benhrama and Greenwood (saw Pog mentioned but never considered)/Gundog is potentially looking like a bit of a regret.

    Having said that, NEW and BRE with nor for Barnes

    1. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      I think that combo is a good long term one, so no need to panic

  29. Amartey Partey
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    Is Veltman injured, or just not a starter then?

    1. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Someone asked this question earlier on this page....

      1. Stamford B
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Close contact said the article which I took for a knock but prolly meant COVID

        1. Amartey Partey
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 4 days ago

          Oh, so close contact with someone with COVID?

          1. Amartey Partey
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 4 days ago

            Graham Potter says that Joel Veltman was absent today because had come into close contact with a person who had tested positive for Covid-19.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 4 days ago

      Scroll up, close contact

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 4 days ago

        Thanks!

  30. Stamford B
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 days ago

    It looked to me like Rafa changed to 442 in the second half. Even though DCL scored he didn’t do a lot. Unsurprisingly didn’t look match fit. Last season 442 hampered DCL when he wasn’t the focal point. I’d prefer Rich for the price short term then see how it goes.