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After a relatively quiet August, the Thomas Tuchel rotation has begun in earnest this evening.

Chelsea take on Aston Villa in the eighth and final Premier League fixture of the day, with kick-off at Stamford Bridge at 17:30 BST.

International break minutes and forthcoming UEFA Champions League involvement looks to have influenced Tuchel’s team selection, with the Blues boss making six changes from his side’s 1-1 draw with Liverpool.

Thiago Silva starts after avoiding a FIFA ban, while deadline-day signing Saul Niguez makes his first appearance for the west London side.

Mateo Kovacic, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Trevor Chalobah and Hakim Ziyech are also recalled.

Andreas Christensen, Jorginho, Mason Mount and Cesar Azpilicueta all drop to the bench, while Reece James is suspended and N’Golo Kante is injured.

Aston Villa boss Dean Smith has almost matched his Chelsea counterpart, making five changes from Gameweek 3 and seemingly sending his troops out in a wing-back system.

Two of the alterations are enforced, with Emi Martinez and Emi Buendia ruled out because of quarantine rules.

Jed Steer lines up in goal, with Ollie Watkins starting for the first time this season and lining up alongside Danny Ings in a two-man attack.

Tyrone Mings, Jacob Ramsey and John McGinn also return to the starting XI.


GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Aston Villa XI: Steer, Cash, Targett, Konsa, Mings, Luiz, McGinn, Watkins, Tuanzebe, Ings, Ramsey

Subs: Sinisalo, Sanson, Traore, Young, Nakamba, El Ghazi, Hause, Bailey, Archer.

Chelsea XI: Mendy, Rudiger, Alonso, Silva, Kovacic, Lukaku, Chalobah, Niguez, Hudson-Odoi, Ziyech, Havertz

Subs: Arrizabalaga, Christensen, Jorginho, Werner, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Mount, Chilwell, Azpilicueta.

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  1. Lord of Ings
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is benrahma a rotation risk now?

    1. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe, that ship sailed before IB imo.

    2. StingRay
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. Vlasic competition. I need to get BAMFORD in for GW5 so will be selling him.

    3. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not interested in him anyway tbh

  2. mitre
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    1) Torres -> Gallagher?
    2) Save FT

  3. FPL Brains
    • Has Moderation Rights
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Palace looked pure class today. Vieria took over a tough looking job but hats off to him with some great signings.

    Anyone watch it?

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      5 years, 1 month ago

      They sure looked good. Gallagher is the guy.

      1. FPL Brains
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        5 years, 1 month ago

        He was class! Chelsea have some player!

        1. BIGREDDOG
          5 years, 1 month ago

          We'll see... he's hungry and young and active and courageous but I haven't seen much technical skill from him other than last weeks beautiful cruyff turn

    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Olise and Eze still to come in aswell. Really exciting team.

      1. FPL Brains
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        5 years, 1 month ago

        Too early for Edouard?

        1. Andy_Social
          5 years, 1 month ago

          It's Liverpool next week, but after that, yeh. Him and Gallagher both look good.

    3. Qaiss
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Tis why people shouldn't speak so soon. Tons on here were saying Palace will get relegated this season.

      1. FPL Brains
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        5 years, 1 month ago

        I probably was one off them who wrote them off.

    4. Joey Tribbiani
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Gallagher needs to practise his shooting, but looks good, confident

    5. Piggs Boson
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, Palace and Viera are really starting to impress me. I was sceptical if they could pull off a playstyle like this, but it's working really well. Their pressing was so good against Spurs, made it incredibly difficult for them to do anything. They were by far the better team, even before the sending off.

  4. Firminooooo
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Why so many posts about selling Antonio? Is he out 3 games?

    1. Lord of Ings
      5 years, 1 month ago

      1 game only.
      Tempted to play Williams.

    2. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      only one match, but it depends on your bench?

    3. EffPeeEll
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No place for antonio when lukaku and ronnie look like being the mutt's nutsz?

    4. Firminooooo
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I just play Ayling vs Newcastle.

    5. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Europa, suspended, EFL cup, then Leeds. Games thick and fast now

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This!

    6. StingRay
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Taking out the player of the month is CRAZY. After the Man U game ( which he’ll miss) the games are good for ANTONIO. I will be benching him and not KNEE JERKINGLY SELLING HIM.

    7. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 1 month ago

      1 but then look at the WH schedule with Europe coming up . . .

  5. We Go Again
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Gallagher a legitimate option as enabler on WC or knee jerk?

    1. Wirtzle Gummidge
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Perhaps, I just sold Antonio for Edouard.

      1. Fish up a tree
        5 years, 1 month ago

        They play Liverpool away next

    2. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      i would rather play an extra defender for 5.5 shaw/james etc

    3. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe as an enabler. Fun to watch because he's so eager

  6. Lord of Ings
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Would you do Antonio to bamford or just bench Antonio for 1 week?)play Williams)

    1. Khark
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Antonio has given me a real headache, im having the same thoughts.

      Basically, its either switch for Bamford or DCL or hold and play sissoko or williams.

      Im gonna leave it a while before i decide.

    2. Firminooooo
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No. Antonio is probably the best value forward in the game with good fixtures after ManU.

      1. Fish up a tree
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This.

        He misses Man u game where points would have been hard to come by so hold if you can

      2. Bushwhacker
        5 years, 1 month ago

        But LOTS of them. Europe games coming up . .

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      5 years, 1 month ago

      History suggests he's getting injured soon anyways

      1. Khark
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This. The reason im thinking it's maybe better to just get rid. I've got the luxury of a 0.1 price fall in him without losing any value aswell

  7. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Why is 4.5 m Leeds forward Gelhardt rising quite rapidly - on fix only Ronaldo price rising quicker

    1. Dthinger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Everyone looking for 4.5 forwards to afford lukaku and Ronaldo

  8. Miguel Sanchez
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Just coming back from the Chelsea game and seeing my boy Ron bag a brace. How many FPL games will Antonio miss?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      5 years, 1 month ago

      *Rom

    2. Fish up a tree
      5 years, 1 month ago

      1 game. Villa should have scored 2-3

  9. Ajax Hamsterdam
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Would you get pukki on WC?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers

  10. Willesden Mariner
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Lukaku, Bamford or DCL for Antonio?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku obviously

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Just about to get off at Willesden Junction

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Changing?

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah - slow crawl back to Buckinghamshire

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      That's different price Lukaku guy ... of course him if price disregarded

    3. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      how much money do you have in the bank, if you can afford Antonio to Lukaku

    4. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on price.. I'd go Bamford over DCL which is a relatively unpopular opinion

  11. Dacra
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Any live for the cheap defence WC?

    Sanchez (4)
    Ayling - Marcal - Duffy - Williams - Livramento
    Jota - Greenwood - Salah - Raphina (4.5)
    Lukaku - DCL - Ronaldo

    Exact cash.

    What could go wrong? 😀

  12. StingRay
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is owning both LUKAKU & CR7 a MUST HAVE now.

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I still think all 3 (Salah included) may be overkill. I'm wildcarding this week tho, and if I only go with 2 and I'm wrong, I'm in trouble.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No but could work well

    3. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      and Salah and Trent and Bruno and Kane

      1. The Train Driver
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Kane had 0 touches in the penalty box and 0 shots.

    4. Ajax Hamsterdam
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not for me

    5. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      no

    6. Qaiss
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A world class player and one of the greatest players of all time facing Villa without Martinez and Buendia. Newcastle one of the worst teams in the league. Are they MUST HAVES?!

    7. Andy_Social
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I took an 8 point hit to get them both. It's not too late

    8. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      you can only captain one of them.

    9. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      people said the same when Mo and Bruno both hauled GW1.

    10. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No.

  13. sozopol
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Agree, they were dynamic and a number of players looked class.

    Spurs were the opposite. And I say that as a fan 🙁

    1. sozopol
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Reply fail to viva Ronaldo above lol

  14. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Would you sacrifice TAA for Antonio > Lukaku?

    1. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      not with current fixtures, TAA has got palace and brentford in his next 2 while Lukaku has spurs and man city in his next 2

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, exactly the question ... original plan remains GW7 WC Lukaku in

        1. Basil1977
          5 years, 1 month ago

          maybe in gw 7, my plan is ronaldo to lukaku in gw7

    2. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      no way, TAA is the one player to keep all season barring injury

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cool 😎

    3. Firminooooo
      5 years, 1 month ago

      After next GW Antonio plays Leeds while Lukaku plays ManC. Wouldn’t do Antonio to Lukaku for free, wait for GW7.

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Benching him for next GW?

  15. Mr.K
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Do we think Ronaldo might be a rotation risk, prioritizing UCL? Trying to figure out whether to aim for Lukaku or Ronaldo....

    1. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      If I knew the answer I wouldn't tell you x

    2. Bushwhacker
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think so ; Ole has to prioritize the league surely? Besides Ronaldo is probably fitter than most of the United squad.

  16. The Frenchie
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Can Antonio price get down? If yes, when?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes and when over -100

      http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/

  17. dark91
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this?

    Antonio+Ings-> Richa+Lukaku (-4)

    Team is

    Sanchez Foster
    Coufal TAA Dier Tsimi Amartey
    Bruno Salah Benrahma Traore Bissouma
    Toney

  18. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Did Traore really put up 0.00 XG and 0.08 XA today or is that an error on understat?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Probably correct because I transferred him in 🙁

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He had no goal attempts but me made two chances.

      Watford mostly did a good job of doubling up on him.

  19. Goonermeister
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Is 27 from 5 (salah c) any good?

    1. grumpyman
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, looks solid with 6 left and your captain to go.

    2. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      yeah, but you need Salah to get at least 7

  20. Pep Roulette
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Semedo or Marcal?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Money is important ... for me 😛

    2. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      semedo, but i got lucky on my wildcard i went with marcal to save money and got lucky today, but i feel semedo is the better pick money no problem

  21. Ajax Hamsterdam
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Would you get alonso or dias on WC?

    Thanks

    1. F4L
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Cancelo

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Pep was shouting at Cancelo all game.

        1. BIGREDDOG
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Lol..

        2. F4L
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Didn't see that, but must've been positive encouragement. He put in another very solid performance today.

      2. Basil1977
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cancelo or James

      3. BIGREDDOG
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This

    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Dias

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers

  22. Pedram
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Antonio to Edouard yay or nay?

    1. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ballsy but I like it

    2. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Too early.

  23. balint84
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Who brings more points?
    A) Bamford
    B) Raphinha+Hwang

  24. Jonsmpr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know how Jimenez is looking, wolves fixtures are turning and Antonio (I have Bamford already).

  25. thegaffer82
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Felt watching the game that my team had done okay - 2 cleanies, Shaw assist, Bruno goal + most people have Antonio.
    But looking on here, and seeing the average - 28pts is a pretty sucky score.
    Oh well. I pray Salah goes mad tomorrow to rescue my ass

    1. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Is he your captain? He could go mad that's for sure.

  26. BIGREDDOG
    5 years, 1 month ago

    HUMBLE BRAG (barely) - terrible start to the season for me sitting at 1.5mil rank having had Sancho this whole time. But God does it feel good hedging your bets with your fantasy football decisions from time to time. Used my WC to captain Cristiano but put 20 quid on a Lukaku brace!

    1. FPL Brains
      • Has Moderation Rights
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Haha. Smashed it, well done mate.

      1. BIGREDDOG
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers lad!

  27. Yome
    5 years, 1 month ago

    So good to have wildcarded both Ronaldo and CR7.

    1. Yome
      5 years, 1 month ago

      *lukaku

    2. BIGREDDOG
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Well played. We will see how it goes I guess. Do you have Salah?

      1. Yome
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yes I do

        1. BIGREDDOG
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Good on you. See how it goes!

    3. EffPeeEll
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

      Was never going to sit on a wildcard when Lukaku and Ronnie arrived.

      They are just head and shoulders above anything else in this league.

      1. Yome
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Absolutely, they are must haves

  28. We Go Again
    5 years, 1 month ago

    1FT 1m itb
    Sanchez Foster
    TAA Shaw Livramento Ayling Tsimikas
    Salah Fernandes Greenwood Raphinha Benrahma
    Antonio DCL Perica

    Obvious problem for next week is Antonio as I don't have bench options (Tsimi and Perica not playing, and Livra plays City)

    Was thinking Bruno + Antonio to Ronaldo + a midfielder (>8.4M) for -4, but I have no clue who I would want in that price range, would have got Jota but Tsimi doesnt allow that. I would then swap Ronaldo to Lukaku GW7 for my WC.

    The other option is to WC now and get both Ronaldo and Lukaku in

    Thoughts?

    1. thegaffer82
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Same team as me except Liv is White & Greenwood is Torres.
      I’m stuck on what to do to be honest.
      I want Ronnie for Bruno and switch to 3-4-3, but it doesn’t really solve the Antonio issue does it.
      I could do it your way, but ideally I want to keep Antonio until he gets injured

  29. BlzE_94
    5 years, 1 month ago

    WC thoughts?

    Sanchez
    TAA Shaw Marcal White
    Salah Raphina Gray
    Ronaldo Lukaku DCL

    Bench: Steele Livramento Gilmour Sissoko

    1. Basil1977
      5 years, 1 month ago

      not keen, not sure where you go if gray and raphina don't do the business

  30. Dacra
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Can someone talk me out of the 5 cheapies rotation defence WC?

    Sanchez (4)
    Ayling - Marcal - Duffy - Williams - Livramento
    Jota - Greenwood - Salah - Raphina (4.5)
    Lukaku - DCL - Ronaldo

    Exact cash.

    Almost pressing confirm..

    1. The Philosopher
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not a bad looking team, tbh. Can see quite a few clean sheets in there too if you can rotate them well.