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Son absent as Royal is handed Spurs debut

11 September 2021 1568 comments
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Crystal Palace v Tottenham Hotspur, the first of eight Premier League fixtures on a busy Saturday, gets Gameweek 4 underway at Selhurst Park.

Kick-off is at 12:30 BST.

The headline team news is the absence of Son Heung-min, who Nuno Espirito Santo had intimated would miss this fixture with a calf problem picked up over the international break.

Santo makes three changes to the side that began the win over Watford in the Lilywhites’ last Premier League outing.

Steven Bergwijn is, like Son, injured, while Davinson Sanchez misses out as he needs to follow Covid-19 quarantine protocols having being involved with Colombia over the last week.

Emerson Royal comes in for his debut at right-back, while Harry Winks and Lucas Moura also start.

Patrick Vieira names the same starting XI from Crystal Palace’s 2-2 draw at West Ham United in Gameweek 3.

Summer signings Odsonne Edouard, Will Hughes and Michael Olise take their place on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 4 LINE-UPS

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita, Ward, Guehi, Andersen, Mitchell, Kouyate, McArthur, Gallagher, Zaha, Ayew, Benteke

Subs: Butland, Milivojevic, Tomkins, Olise, Hughes, Clyne, Edouard, Kelly, Riedewald

Tottenham XI: Lloris, Tanganga, Royal, Dier, Reguilon, Winks, Skipp, Hojbjerg, Alli, Kane, Moura

Subs: Gollini, Doherty, Gil, Rodon, Ndombele, Davies, Scarlett, Omole, Markanday

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  1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Might need a WC to sort my WCed team out

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    1. Khark
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      +1

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      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
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        It legit might be down to GOALONSO to save my season later

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    2. No Professionals
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      That’s the spirit! 1 player has played…

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      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        It’s more the fact of looking at my overall team and not liking it and spotting holes everywhere

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        1. Pinturicchio10
          5 years, 13 days ago

          😆

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        2. No Professionals
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          How have those holes become apparent since the deadline passed?

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          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            Made the decision to play it last minute, but wasn’t fully committed but felt I had to do something

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        3. Tomerick
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          It is difficult when you have so little time between game weeks to plan it.

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          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            I just wanted to give it as little thought as possible over the break. I needed it

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            1. Tinkermania
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 13 days ago

              Your team is fine. Just remember Spurs are not all that without TALISMAN Son Heung M.

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              1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 13 days ago

                If Lukaku/Ronaldo do well today I may have to take him out

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  2. F4L
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Sterling vs Leipzig, Torres vs Southampton next week. Please Pep

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Honestly probably most likely - but you could see Torres getting subbed early today.

      Foden & Sterling could both come on in that spot. Even KDB.

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      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        yeah, can't see Torres being given 90. But the start today is big, he really is Pep's #1 striker now. As long as he keeps scoring, there's no reason Pep will revert back to a false 9 (unless to give Torres a rest).

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        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Agree. Looking to bring him in GW8, after CHE/LIV.

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    2. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Hopefully

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  3. DandyDon
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Edouard managing to do in 10 minutes what Benteke hasn't managed to do for about 4 seasons now! why did it take them so long to sign a better forward. lol

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    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Probably waiting for Hodgson to retire to give funds to new manager. Not saying that Hodgson would definitely bring bad player, it's just makes no sense to give him funds to bring players when he's about to leave.

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    2. Khark
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Remember the Aston Villa Benteke? He was a class FPL asset back in the day

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  4. Cok3y5murf
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Imagine wildcarding and picking Ronaldo over Edouard + 6m

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  5. Fish up a tree
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Spurs had been lucky to not concede in the first 3 games so I have no sympathy with anyone who bought the likes of Dier Reg etc. Look at the stats next time or watch the highlights!

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    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      The whole game is luck based so point is redundant either way

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      1. Fish up a tree
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Yes there is but there is some skill & common sense involved

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        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          I kept Kane and Son in GW2 last season by mistake and they got me 80 odd points

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          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            *60 odd even

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          2. TomSaints
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            That gameweek should have a trigger warning.

            I wildcarded and came out 53 points worse off

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            1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 13 days ago

              I literally played my WC last minute and ran out of my time and as a result still had Kane (C) and Son.

              It was great to see but felt unjust and bizarrely annoyed at the same time

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        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          We’re all making reasonable choices. It’s all luck after that.

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        3. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          The skill and common sense is picking the highest owner regular haulers.
          The cheaper mid differentials who perform/fail is where the luck lies

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          1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            *mid priced

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      2. MGMT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        All comes down to the amount of luck needed… Not the same amount of luck needed for Man United to beat Newcastle than viceversa. Stats helps figuring that out

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        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Watch it be 0-0 now or summat lol

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      3. No Professionals
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        The hole game is not luck based, if it was the results would be more random

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        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Spurs 1-0 City
          Wolves 0-1 Spurs
          Spurs 1-0 Watford

          Palace 3-0 Spurs

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          1. Fish up a tree
            • 5 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            Like I said Spurs we’re lucky to get clean sheet in those games. Today they were found out

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            1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 13 days ago

              Lucky 3 times in a row, 1 game reality happens.
              Shows how much luck is therefore involved

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        2. DARE TO BISCAN
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Erm, 'The hole game'

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    2. We Go Again
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      GW12 seems a good time to bring a Spurs defender in

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  6. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Leicester win the next shock

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    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      nah no chance. Easy City 0-2 or 1-3.

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    2. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Barnes to score of course

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      1. TomSaints
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Typical but inevitable

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    3. GROBARI
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      CP winning isnt a chock

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    4. Joey Tribbiani
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      thats not a shock

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    5. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Could be a draw?

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  7. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Ronaldo EO 115%
    Bruno EO 32%

    Gonna end in tears

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    1. Davros
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Wow

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    2. Davros
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      How is that- he’s only owned by 27%??

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      1. Drexl Spivey
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Top 10%

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        1. Drexl Spivey
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          10k rather

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          1. Davros
            • 17 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            Got it. Cmon Bruno punish those sellers!

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      2. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        livefpl says 65% owned so must be within the Top10k

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    3. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Bruno (C) could be MASSIVE wow

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    4. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Cmon Brunoooo

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    5. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Lukaku eo is just 12 to 16%

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    6. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      crazy to see how low Lukaku's EO is.

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      1. Gandalf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Tough matches coming up, slight injury concern, not braced yet and the ronaldo distraction so not too surprised by the low figures

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    7. We Go Again
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Bruno owner here, I am very nervous

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    8. The Kopite
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      What is EO?

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      1. Drexl Spivey
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        % ownership plus those amongst them who captained.

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      2. Khark
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Effective Ownership. Some people make all their fantasy judgements based on EO. I tend to try not think about it too much, clouds judgement imo.

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        1. Drexl Spivey
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          All?

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  8. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Running down the wing, hear United sing…

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    1. Pep Roulette
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Viva Ronaldo!

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  9. Davros
    • 17 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Lol@ North London football

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      London is blue.

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  10. Carlton P
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    How is Cantwell, Gilmore and Rashica not playing?? Auba is getting a brace today…maybe even an Arsenal cleanie

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Gilmour has not been effective in his position, essentially. Doesn't mean he won't be back in again but if you browse the Norwich forums it'll give insight as to why they thought this could happen.

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      1. Carlton P
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Ahhh really. I will be honest I have no idea how Norwich have been playing this season. But to bench all three though…that’s a big statement sent by the manager

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    2. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Not on the mighty Kabak's watch.

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  11. Lingard’s Shin Guards
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    wonder how clark lascelles and hayden are feeling right now

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    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Spared from habilitation and happy about it

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      1. Nanoelektronicar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        humiliation

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  12. HashAttack
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Switched from a -16 to WC at 10:53 this morning so that I could two more transfers - Kane and Tanga out for Ronnie and Tierney 🙂

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    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Oh wow, yeah that saved your a heck of points.

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      1. HashAttack
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Just wish I had swapped out Gilmour too ...

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    2. Gunneryank
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      This kind of story is heartwarming.

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    3. Khark
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Why would you ever be considering a -16? Shoulda wildcarded ages ago if thats the case.

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  13. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Spurs been found out.

    Playing defensive football going to get you into trouble.

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    1. Hutchiniho
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      playing their 5th and 6th choice CBs and a man sent off got them into trouble.

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    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Weren't you the one telling everyone to pick Spurs defenders and Lloris?

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      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Lloris ues.

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        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          *yes*

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    3. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Hopefully goals coming up for Kane from more attacking football then

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    4. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      missing so many first teamers.

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  14. Hutchiniho
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    A Torres and Bruno

    or

    B Ronaldo and Cancelo?

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    1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      b

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    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Torrs & Ronaldo.

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      1. Hutchiniho
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Torres is a FWD in Tel.
        Can't get them both with Antonio and Lukaku already 2/3

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    3. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      I have A

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  15. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    It's early days but Palace have honestly done so well this window.

    So many changes is always risky but they must be delighted with these performances.

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    1. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Yeah - most of us knew this would be a risky season, clearing out so many older players, loads of young ones a new manager. But needed to happen and on our recent showings going well! 🙂

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        You guys are unofficially my second team, so happy for you. Palace beer festival is a good day out!

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        1. Hughes Your Daddy
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Cheers - haha yeah the Palace beer festival always a good one, hopefully back next year 🙂

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    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      just imagine if Eze was fit. Zaha Edouard Eze with Gallagher bombing forward from midfield.

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      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        I thought they boxed very clever in the market, and this performance shows that. They'll be perfectly safe this season.

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  16. Lingard’s Shin Guards
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    feeling happy for viera

    hopefully palace have a decent year

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  17. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Will Ronaldo sweep clean?

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    1. mcpoop
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      He will sweep the leg.

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  18. Pep Roulette
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Why oh why did I take Odegaard over Gallagher?

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    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      hindsight is the devil. don't beat yourself up

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      1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        exactly. obviously thought odegaard would get more pts - he still could!

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    2. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Hang on, Ode might still see you good.

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  19. thepancakeman123
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Going Benrahma > Raphinha next week. Is it worth taking a -4 to go Smith-Rowe > Gallagher to avoid the Gallagher price increase? An increase of 0.1 and I cannot afford him

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      It’s the hits which kill your rank. Pick good players and be patient.

      Arsenal have an excellent fixture run.

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    2. Khark
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Why do you need Gallagher? Look at his fixtures and don't chase the last 2 weeks points.

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    3. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Just jumping around losing points and rank. Patience….!

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  20. Hiiler
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Just curious don't own Tanganga, but saw the game he was sent of before any goals were scored why did he get -1 for goals conseded? Isn't the rule you have to be on pitch while goals are scored/conceded to get -+points?

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    1. LSK
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Not if you’re sent off

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      1. Hiiler
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Ok tnx for the answer.

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    2. The Train Driver
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      That rule only applied when subbed off, not when sent off.

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      1. Hiiler
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Thnx for clearing that up.

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    3. AleksaMaster
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Only for subbed players, not if he got red card.

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      1. Hiiler
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Ok thnx

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    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      He continues to be penalised as a result of the RC. Otherwise, he could’ve been sent off after 60 mins and bank the CS and bonus.

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      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Effectively the sending off contributes to the result...

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      2. Hiiler
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 13 days ago

        Ouh so you mean if a player get sent off(red card ) , he also looses a CS if he had it before the red card?

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        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          If the team go on to concede, yes.

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        2. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          Not sure actually! He was 2 mins short but I’d be interested to know if a player gets sent off after 60+ mins and the team doesn’t concede whether they get clean sheet points or not

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          1. Tinkermania
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            He keeps a the clean sheet for sure. That happens a lot.

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          2. Fitzy.
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            Of course they do

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          3. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 17 Years
            5 years, 13 days ago

            If the team go on to concede then He definitely doesn’t keep the CS!

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        3. FPL Theorist
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          He can keep the CS if he played at least 60 minutes and his team keep the CS until FT.

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        4. dadoune30
          • 17 Years
          5 years, 13 days ago

          I think Richard Dunne got -6 pts some years back after being sent off before 60 mins and saw his team Man City beaten by Middlesborough 8-0 i remember

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  21. Andy_Social
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Don't suppose we'll see Tanganga for a while. Pity as he made a decent start. Romero and Sanchez will compete with Dier for the 2 CB spots and Royal will remain wingback. Bad timing Tanganga, in both senses.

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    1. EL tridente
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Romero clearly number 1. One of the best CBs in Serie A last season

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    2. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Surely romero will become nailed on and sanchez and dier will battle for the second spot?

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    3. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Yeah. Gotta sell him for Semedo as my GW5 transfer now

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  22. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Man City's bench is ridiculous!

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    1. Khark
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      was just thinking this

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  23. InterUranus
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Is there a way of viewing the template team? My team was 89% template rated last week but it's now dropped to 67%. Would be interesting to see where the differentials are.

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      By definition, you have the differentials.

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    2. Carefree Crew
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      livefpl site has ownership stats. Also if you've entered your team it displays players that can hurt your rank. Ownership & EO %s.
      By looking at that it might give you an idea.
      Filter on transfers page of FPL site by "teams selected by %".
      Change from ("total points" tab)

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  24. FPL_Crisis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    the warm up scenes at OT are nuts. as a non owner i'm hoping Ronaldo only scores the one then gets carded for removing his shirt 🙂

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  25. FPL Scoop
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Right, if Harvey effing BArnes outscores Torres today……

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Torres subbed on 59 mins. 1 point.

      I have him 🙂

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    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      I'm with you. I decided to take Torres out a fortnight ago instead of the aforementioned Barnes. That went well. I brought Torres back in again (Noddy mistake, I know) so watch the Barnes machine crank into hyper mode.

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  26. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    This Gallagher guy can't be ignored ... 😛

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      vs Liverpool?

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  27. DandyDon
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    sofa time approaching, no Utd or City attack!
    3 pool, 2 everton and Lukaku to come after 3pm. No pressure West Ham attack...

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    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      no united wow, thats BRAVE

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  28. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Utd's warm up tops look attrocious! Even Ronaldo doesnt look good in it!

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    1. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      It's to distract the other team

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  29. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 13 days ago

    Arsenal dominant.

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    1. Harry the Hack
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      Are they actually? Not watching so I don't know, but given who posted, not sure whether this is sarcastic

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    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 13 days ago

      5 shots already

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