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Crystal Palace take on Everton in the final Premier League match of Gameweek 16, with kick-off at Selhurst Park at 16:30 GMT.

Patrick Vieira makes three changes from the Gameweek 15 defeat at Manchester United, with Joel Ward, Will Hughes and Odsonne Edouard coming in for Nathaniel Clyne, Jeffrey Schlupp and Christian Benteke, all of whom drop to the bench.

That means influential defender Joachim Andersen remains out, despite returning to training last week.

As for Everton, Rafa Benitez also shuffles his pack. In come Mason Holgate, Fabian Delph and Andre Gomes, with Yerry Mina and Allan missing out completely, while Anthony Gordon is a substitute.

Lucas Digne, meanwhile, is once again absent from the matchday squad.

GAMEWEEK 16 LINE-UPS

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita, Ward, Tomkins, Guehi, Mitchell, Kouyate, Hughes, Gallagher, Ayew, Zaha, Edouard

Subs: Butland, Olise, Eze, Mateta, Schlupp, Clyne, Benteke, Kelly, Riedewald

Everton XI: Pickford, Coleman, Holgate, Keane, Godfrey, Doucoure, Delph, Gomes, Townsend, Gray, Richarlison

Subs: Begovic, Kenny, Iwobi, Gordon, Gbamin, Branthwaite, Rondon, Simms, Onyango

  1. The Final Boss
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Anybody know why Mark is not in blackbox these days?

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Az went ahead of him?

    2. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Work commitments

    3. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Red arrows

      1. el polako
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Wow he truly is a man of many talents.

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Haha

  2. BoleynWin
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    The thought of Salah against that Newcastle defence…. TC tempting

    1. tbos83
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The small chance he'll be rested is spooking me

    2. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Considering I'm on continuous red arrows and falling further and further behind ML rivals, I'm strongly considering it. Might turn the tide a little. Or, you know, make things even worse.

  3. banskt
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Lookling for fourth defender + (second bench).
    For GW17, it will be third defender + (first bench)

    1. Dalot + (Pukki)
    2. Dalot + (King) -- already have Dennis
    3. Shaw + (Broja)
    4. Something else for a total of 10.6m

    Have Ramsdale, TAA, Cancelo*, Rudiger, (Livramento)
    Also, just hearing about Covid outbreak at Man United.

    1. OverTinker
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Covid says hi

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Worried about COVID as well. Will have to wait till more information, obviously.

  4. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Considering Palace put 3 past Everton I have to keep Lukaku another week right ? RIGHT?!?

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaku should be a hold; yes. Good team, reasonable fixtures. Not many alternatives around. If it ain't broken ...

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      There is something wrong in Everton now. Allan and Digne in dressing room I think.

      1. Miniboss
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I want to hear more about this speculation

  5. MysticMac17
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Have 2FT and thinking of doing Ederson to De Gea and Raphinha to Bernardo. Thoughts?

    Current team
    Ederson
    TAA James Rudiger Alonso
    Salah Jota Foden
    Antonio Pukki King

    Subs: Mbuemo, Raphinha Cancelo*

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Raphina seems fairly fixture proof tbf

    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why switch Ederson?

      Raphinha has difficult fixtures, but is quite in form. Nothing to change there really. May be move away from triple Chelsea defense?

  6. DB_00
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Really want to get rid of Antonio and Guaita but don't want to take a hit either. Both are really annoying me now though

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Guaita is like starting the gameweek on -8 given everyone else's keeper. Take the hit

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You seem to be losing more than 5 pts every week.

  7. Jässi
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    1 FT, 0.5 ITB and need to get rid of Toney and Gundogan sooner or later...

    A) Gundogan to Gallagher
    B) Gundogan to Mount
    C) Toney to Pukki
    D) Gundogan to Gallagher & Toney to Antonio (-4)
    E) Gundogan to Maddison & Toney to Watkins (-4)
    F) Gundogan to Bowen & Toney to Watkins (-4)

    Rest of the squad is:
    Ramsdale - Foster
    TAA - Cancelo - Alonso - James - Livra
    Salah - Jota - ESR - Brownhill - GUNDOGAN*
    Ronaldo - King - TONEY*

  8. BrockLanders
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Jimenez & Cornet to Dennis & Bilva -4?

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone??

  9. BrutalLogiC
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ddg Foster.
    TAA James Cancelo White Livra
    Jota Salah Bilva ESR Gallag
    Ron Dennis Gelh
    Mega template

    Who to get rid of? Or save FT. Got 2.1m ITB

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Save

  10. Sun God Nika
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Vardy out tonight before price drop

    Who to bring in with 11.5 to use up

    A. Watkins
    B. Antonio.. Again
    C. Any other ideas?

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Daka could be a crazy differential

      1. Sun God Nika
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        The pontential y Covid cancellation of spurs game would put me off plus knowing my luck vardy will start again

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      CR7 Downgrade elsewhere.

      1. Sun God Nika
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Honestly not feeling cr7 for the price and man u form atm

      2. banskt
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Plus, Covid scares.

        1. Sun God Nika
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          This aswell

        2. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          That is reason good enough, I admit.

    3. BrutalLogiC
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Antonio? surprised he's not dropping as well! Did he show any promise

      1. Sun God Nika
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        True, I took him out 2 weeks ago but striker options are thin atm

        I have toney and Dennis as my other 2

      2. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I would rather start Gallagher than Antonio or Bowen based on what I've seen today. Gallagher was from another planet today tbh.

        1. Sun God Nika
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yep luckily esr and vardy didn't start so

          Gallagher in for me from the bench!

    4. Athletico Underachieving
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Swallow the price drop and wait if you can. All happening covid wise

      1. Sun God Nika
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah I'm thinking that, all the players I want I could easily afford anyways,

  11. OverTinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Which 3 teams to be relegated this season? What are you 3

    1. el polako
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Norwich, Newcastle for sure.
      There will be battle to the end to avoid 3rd spot between Watfrod, Southampton and Everton.

      1. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Everton can turn around at any time.

        1. el polako
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          They look dross at the moment.

      2. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        and Newcastle can save themselves if they go big in January transfer window.

        1. el polako
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Just buying players won't get them points and teams around won't just give up

          1. OverTinker
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Sure but it certainly helps.

            1. el polako
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              It might be too late, I reckon they hired Eddie Howe anticipating relegation and trusting he is the man to get them straight back up.

    2. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Burnley, Norwich and Watford

    3. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Norwich, Newcastle, Everton

      1. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Surely Newcastle are going to spend big in January. Will be interesting after that.

    4. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hopefully Newcastle, Watford and Burnley.

    5. Sting in the Tail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Norwich, Watford and Leeds.

    6. BoleynWin
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Return from injuries could determine who stays up.
      DCL at Everton
      Bamford at Leeds

      Either of those could turn the tide. I think Norwich & Newcastle are rooted.

  12. bigdip
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsdale
    James - Rudiger - TAA (c)
    RAPHINHA - Salah - ESR - Bilva
    JIMENEZ - Watkins - King
    ______________________________
    Carson: Livra: Cancelo : Brownhill

    1ft & 6.3mn itb
    A) Raphina/ESR & Jimenez -> Gallagher/Maddision/Son & Ronaldo/Jesus
    B) Any other suggestions?

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't sell Raphinha for a hit.
      My suggestion would be Jimenez and Brownhill to McGinn and Dennis. But your team, your call.

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I meant over two weeks, not for a hit.

  13. Lord of Ings
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    I’m really tempted to do raphinha to Gallagher for a -4 now..
    Is it too knee jerky?

    1. Butcher
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If you do it before 7pm you'll get today's points

      1. Ha.
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Get in. Done with a minute to spare.

        1. Stranger Mings
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Is ESr to Gallagher too knee jerky ????

    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes. Why sell Raphinha for a hit?

  14. mr messi
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Antonio and Wilson to
    Ronaldo and Locadia(will be benched) ? I also have King.

    Midfield is
    Raphina Jota Bowen Salah Bilva

  15. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Hi....1ft and zero cash. Am I best to save ft here?

    With a view to maybe alonso and mbeumo to dalot and Gallagher gw18? Pending covid news of course.

    Open to suggestions.....thanks

    Ramdsale
    Taa James alonso (livra cancelo)
    Salah jota bilva mbeumo (normann)
    Ronaldo Antonio King

    1. Dammit_182
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Gallagher vs Southampton could be pretty sweet if you can get there in 1 move. I’m playing 2 Chelsea defenders vs Everton so wouldn’t want to loose one before that match.

      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I can't get there in 1 move sadly....without losing bilva or jota....and I'm clearly not doing that!

  16. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Probably won’t make moves before Tuesday as we even don’t know which games will be played.
    Said that, would you prioritise getting Jota over City mid this week?

    Recon Jota starts vs that Newcastle and it can be a carnage.

    1. Dammit_182
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes yes yes!

    2. Nightf0x
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Will make transfers just before deadline

    3. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I would

    4. banskt
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      For this week, yes. But, Sterling is quietly racking up the stats. Could be a good differential going forward.

    5. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers guys!

  17. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Foden as a differential captain madness?

    1. Butcher
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thought the same but going Jota

    2. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't do it. Far too risky

    3. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He’s a very good option but it has to be Salah

    4. Dammit_182
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      On Saturday when they play Newcastle it might be a shout…not when Liverpool play Newcastle

  18. sentz05
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is CR7 a certain starter under the new manager now?

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Sort of

  19. JohnnyCroat
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    GW17 BUS TEAM

    Sanchez
    James, TAA, Dalot
    Rapha, Gilmour, Salah, Jota
    Dennis, Antonio, CR7

    Guaita, Reggie, Hojbjerg, Cancelo

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ah man. Jealous you can bench Guaita.

      1. JohnnyCroat
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        He's lost some unlucky clean sheets recently, and he injured his hand today, so maybe not keeping him. But, WC is back in 3 weeks.

  20. Jeremiah
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on Wilson > Watkins?

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looking to ditch Wilson as well but I’m not sure Watkins is the one

    2. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Bit sideways

    3. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Like others I’m sure, I had earmarked Rich. Put off now.

    4. Dammit_182
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It’s the most obvious swop. Villas fixtures get better just as Newcastle’s drop. I am keeping Watkins though as after the next 3 they go green again and frankly picking between mid price strikers is splitting hairs just now

  21. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    DDG
    TAA James Alonso
    Salah Jota Bowen Gallagher
    Vardy Antonio King

    Steele / ESR Livramento Cancelo*

    Need some City coverage for the next few games. Madness but...?

    A) Vardy/Antonio/ESR > Ronaldo/Bilva/Gelhardt (-8)
    B) Vardy/ESR > Bilva/Jesus (-4)
    C) Vardy/ESR > Bilva/someone else (-4)

  22. FPLtfs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    James and Wilson -> Ronaldo and Targett (-4)? Can get any other def up to 4.7

    1. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good. Maybe Dalot over Targett

    2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why get rid of James mate?!! Have I missed something??!

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Might wanna wait with MU covid situation.

      1. Dammit_182
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Baps, what is the United covid situation?

  23. afsr
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Morning everyone, have fallen beyond the 1 million. Awful season after being in top 5k last year. Advice appreciated

    Sanchez
    Livra James TAA
    Salah Foden Jota Bowen Allan
    Benteke Dennis

    Steele, Cancelo*, Reguilon*, CR7*
    1 FT, 0.2 ITB

    1. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Too soon surely to as to asterisk Ronnie.

  24. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    ESR âž¡ Gallagher for -4?

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Point chasing is a bad idea maaan

  25. Butcher
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    John McGinn on anyone's radar? Perfect replacement for ESR.

    1. matiakez
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      On 4 bookings I think?

      Options are limited though

    2. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Really like him. Definitely on my radar.

  26. squ1rrel
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Gallagher -> Foden (-4) was my biggest brain move all season 😛

    Sa - Steele
    TAA - Alonso - Cancelo - Livra - Williams
    Salah - Son - Jota - Foden - Allan
    Antonio - Dennis - Wilson

    1.5 ITB, 1 FT

    What do I do here?

    1. Dammit_182
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think you roll, play livra and go 4-4-2

  27. Ha.
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Why is everyone getting rid of ESR? Have I missed something?

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      0 points this week. Let them sell.

    2. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The same reason people on here were getting rid of Gallagher after he blanked against Leeds the other week.

      People chase points!

      1. Ha.
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Hoping that’s all it is…

        Amazing how people look backwards and not forwards

  28. OverTinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ramdsale
    Taa James Alonso Cancelo *Reguilon
    Salah Jota Raphina Mbeumo (brownhil)
    Ronaldo Antonio Dennis

    what will you do here?? 0 itb and 1 FT.

    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ramsdale > Guaita

      1. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        😀 Rival got Ramsdale??

    2. Flynny
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Save ft

      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Come on. Don't give bad advice.

        1. Flynny
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          And you suggested ditching ramsdale!!

          Raph is worth keeping thru the difficult games....proved v Chelsea he can score v anyone

          Didn't realise reg was injured...so that's my bad

          With zero cash there is nowhere to go with mbeumo....

      2. OverTinker
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        reguilon is injured, Raph difficult fixtures, Mbeumo seems useless now.

  29. BlzE_94
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    GTG? No FT left

    de Gea
    TAA James Reguilon
    Salah Jota B.Silva Bowen ESR
    Ronaldo King

    Steele Livramento Cancelo Locadia

  30. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Cr7 is such a supreme athlete his body will literally LOL at the Covid 19 virus

    I recon even if he got it his body would just destroy it instantly so he won’t test positive

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He’s had it before

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        And lived to tell the tale, remarkable

    2. Miniboss
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Plot twist: covid gets infected by CR7.

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Zlatan you mean?

      2. Dammit_182
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This.

    3. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yeh but think of his granny