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Three more Premier League matches get underway at the traditional 3pm kick-off time, including a juicy-looking clash between Manchester United and West Ham United.

It’s at Old Trafford where the bulk of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) interest lies, too, with highly owned players on both sides.

Above: Players sorted by FPL ownership within the top 10,000 managers in Gameweek 23

The headline team news from the north-west is that Cristiano Ronaldo is fit enough to feature – and start – despite his manager reporting on Friday that the veteran Portuguese striker had a neck problem.

In fact, there’s only one change to the Manchester United starting XI from the side that defeated Brentford 3-1 in midweek, with Harry Maguire in for the absent Victor Lindelof at centre-half.

Bruno Fernandes is once again part of a three-man midfield.

West Ham boss David Moyes has made three changes to the side that lost to Leeds United, with Alphonse Areola starting in goal in the absence of Lucasz Fabianski. Issa Diop and Nikola Vlasic drop to the bench as Tomas Soucek and Kurt Zouma return from illness and injury respectively.

Over at Elland Road, Marcelo Bielsa has made two enforced alterations to the Leeds side compared to Gameweek 22 as Diego Llorente and Rodrigo come in for the injured Junior Firpo and Adam Forshaw.

Eddie Howe’s only change sees Joe Willock replace the benched Sean Longstaff.

The stand-out news from west London is that Raul Jimenez is absent from the Wolves squad that takes on Brentford today. Fabio Silva deputises for the Mexican in attack, while Ruben Neves returns from isolation to replace the benched Francisco Trincao.

“He felt something, so we protect him. I don’t want to create problems for him in his calf, so it’s better to protect him.” – Bruno Lage on Raul Jimenez

New signing Chiquinho is among the substitutes.

Brentford manager Thomas Frank makes two changes to the Bees side that lost 3-1 to Manchester United on Wednesday, with Kristoffer Ajer and Rico Henry recalled at the expense of Mads Bech Sorensen and Mads Roerslev.

GAMEWEEK 23 LINE-UPS

Brentford XI: Lossl, Pinnock, Jansson, Ajer, Henry, Jensen, Norgaard, Janelt, Canos, Mbeumo, Toney

Subs: Fernandez, Forss, Wissa, Ghoddos, Baptiste, Bidstrup, Sorensen, Roerslev, Stevens

Wolves XI: Sa, Kilman, Coady, Toti, Semedo, Dendoncker, Neves, Moutinho, Ait-Nouri, Silva, Podence

Subs: Ruddy, Hoever, Marcal, Jordao, Trincao, Chiquinho, Giles, Traore, Cundle


Leeds United XI: Meslier, Dallas, Struijk, Llorente, Ayling, Koch, Raphinha, Klich, Rodrigo, Harrison, James

Subs: Klaesson, Roberts, Bate, Gelhardt, Hjelde, McKinstry, McCarron, Moore, Kenneh.

Newcastle United XI: Dubravka, Trippier, Lascelles, Schar, Dummett, Willock, Shelvey, Joelinton, Fraser, Wood, Saint-Maximin.

Subs: Darlow, Clark, Lewis, Hendrick, Manquillo, Murphy, Almiron, Gayle, Longstaff.


Manchester United XI: De Gea, Maguire, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Fred, Fernandes, Varane, Dalot, Telles, Elanga, McTominay.

Subs: Henderson, Jones, Mata, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Cavani, Matic, Van de Beek.

West Ham United XI: Areola, Cresswell, Zouma, Coufal, Fornals, Antonio, Lanzini, Dawson, Bowen, Soucek, Rice.

Subs: Randolph, Yarmolenko, Vlasic, Noble, Diop, Fredericks, Masuaku, Johnson, Kral.

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  1. TomSaints
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Funny one that. Cavani given assist but he was clearly offside?

    1. Bobby Digital
      4 years, 9 months ago

      "thicker lines"

      1. ZimZalabim
        4 years, 9 months ago

        thicker refs *

        1. deathcabofdevil
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Thicker pounds.

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 9 months ago

      How was it clear? What the hell are you guys on about honestly

      1. Paqueta Rice
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Clear as mud

  2. JBG
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Get a goal now Brentford, please.

    1. Zimo
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Butwhy

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Hurt Wolves defensive picks.

        1. JBG
          4 years, 9 months ago

          This

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yep

    3. Paqueta Rice
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Timing

    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Great shout

    5. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wonderful timing

  3. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Brentford Goal

    1. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ivan Toney

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Beautiful strike.

        Hits the post Mbeumo with a floated free kick assist.

        New hair cut worked for the big man.

  4. TomSaints
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Clean sheets up in flames at wolves

  5. Steinburg FC
    4 years, 9 months ago

    11 points and on for a green arrow x-)

  6. _Ninja_
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Wolves cleanie gone.... toney goal

    1. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Lots of damage to my FH h2h opponent. Brentwood in pretty good form

  7. g40steve
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Toney G

  8. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Can’t believe Fred’s ownership is so low

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      4 years, 9 months ago

      People misjudged and went for the lesser of the two United assets - Ronaldo.

  9. Differentiator
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Not a United fan, and this is very crude as I just made it, but it doesnt look likely to have been offside

    https://i.ibb.co/1JNFcYq/Capture.png

    1. Paqueta Rice
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hahaha this is brilliant but yeah Cavanis armpit to the defenders foot look in line

    2. Qaiss
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Same as Kane’s one at Southampton but they spent ages trying to make sure he was offside, yet with Cavani they know within 5 seconds. We all know why...

      1. Differentiator
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Nah, this one just does not look offside

        1. Qaiss
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Neither was Kane at Southampton. You can’t draw lines sometimes and not others.

          1. Paqueta Rice
            4 years, 9 months ago

            They drew lines and it wasn’t close Qaiss, he was well onside? They showed it a few minutes ago and it wasn’t close

            1. Qaiss
              4 years, 9 months ago

              They didn’t draw any lines, he was deemed onside after a few seconds. All I’m saying is that there is no consistency.

              1. Paqueta Rice
                4 years, 9 months ago

                They did we just didn’t see it. It was over in a few seconds because it was obvious!

    3. fantasyfog
      4 years, 9 months ago

      VAR needs you!

    4. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      This is funny and informative at the same time. Seems on. Coming from a Pool fan.

      1. BobbyDoesNotLook
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        4 years, 9 months ago

        But yep agree with Qaiss that Kane has had very thin lines lately.

    5. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wobbly lines don't count!

    6. Shteve
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yep, looks onside there. The position of the camera makes it look like he was off in real time

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 9 months ago

        It does, but as people who watch football every single week and have seen enough instances of something looking offside but then not turning out to be it's insane the amount of "THAT WOZ CLEARLY OFFSYDE!111"

        1. Shteve
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Couldn't agree more. I'd say it's people who own West Ham defenders but who own one these days? More likely to be people who don't like United.

    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Think the PL VAR officials use the same lines you do!

  10. kellamergh
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Glad I shipped Ronaldo.
    There was no way I was having him block my Salah move!

  11. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Please be Mbuemo assist

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yep it is

  12. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    2ney!

  13. Patio Kev
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Toney saving my gameweek once again late on

  14. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Back to back Toney goals

  15. fantasyfog
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Man I'm tired from work and kids, help my brain out please

    I have a WC two FH's and a boost bench, not massively unhappy with my team but with the DG's coming up what would be the best strategy for using them

    My brain is fried

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      4 years, 9 months ago

      2 weeks to relax.

      1. fantasyfog
        4 years, 9 months ago

        No moves then, ta

    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      The best strategy is simple: wait for more information.
      With 2 FHs you don't really have to worry about blanks. So it's a case of waiting for a big DGW to be confirmed and play the WC the week before.
      No point even trying to think about it now; let Ben Crellin do that.

  16. not_astarte
    4 years, 9 months ago

    rather have salah sitting on the bench than playing disgusting Ronaldo.....

  17. Feanor
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Williams is my top point scorer so far, but is 1st on my bench

    1. Qaiss
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I have Gunn, Williams and Coufal on the bench. A few no-shows wouldn’t hurt

  18. pjomara
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Dalot 3 bps. Wasn't expecting that.
    Nice bargain for 4.5

    1. BeWater
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I've benched this guy for his 5 at Norwich and today. Nice to have some sub points just in case I guess!

    2. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Last on my bench, behind ESR and Gray..

    3. TKC07
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Dalot 2nd on my bench with Coufal 3rd..

  19. moment
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    oh, NOW the Toney / Mbeumo partnership starts returning... Little late for that chaps.

  20. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Just like we all hoped for in GW11

    GOAL - Ivan Toney
    ASSIST - Bryan Mbeumo

  21. HonestBlatter
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Tell me why VAR was not used at Old Trafford? Where are the lines...Cavani was clearly offside

    1. Shteve
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He was onside

      1. Salan
        4 years, 9 months ago

        At least show us to check by VAR

    2. Paqueta Rice
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Stop crying seriously, it was looked at, they used the lines. Wasn’t even that close, he was well onside.

      1. Yozzer
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Coming from one of the most biased fans on this site you may just forgive him for not taking you too seriously 😉

        1. Paqueta Rice
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I might be biased but that only matters in discussions/arguments and opinions. Facts are facts.

  22. BeWater
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Sold James for Laporte instead of Digne and benched Dalot. If City could not concede free kick in their own half at any point that would be great.

  23. Lord of Ings
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Sold Toney for josh king
    F**K this sh*t

    1. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I captained Toney last week and VC this week. Was always a solid pick.

      1. Lord of Ings
        4 years, 9 months ago

        It was between him and Watkins had to sell one it was logical to sell Toney
        He’s done well for me but had the doubles not been announced could’ve easily rolled the transfer and captained someone who’s actually decent and had Toney.

        1. Patio Kev
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Fine lines. I also have Watkins as well as Toney and Antonio and resisted the Watford transfers as needed 2FT’s next week to replace Alonso and bring back Mo.

  24. JBG
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Kinda upset that Watford got that DGW now, baited me in to Dennis transfer, wanted Digne for Dawson, but oh well... Shoulda coulda woulda.

  25. Bubz
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I remember when I had the Tony Mbeumo double up for weeks on end

    1. tiger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      same...dark days

  26. Paqueta Rice
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Cavani well onside for all you haters!

    1. deathcabofdevil
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Is the photoshop bit done already ?

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      In real time and with the freeze looked close.

      Not hating.

      Commenting!

      1. Paqueta Rice
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Aye, I commented myself thinking it was offside in real time. The annoying bit is when all of these hawk eye spectators on here can confirm that it’s “clearly offside” or that VAR wasn’t even used and United get special treatment. It’s ludicrous.

    3. not_astarte
      4 years, 9 months ago

      this

    4. deathcabofdevil
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bit rich of you to assume people care about hating a team which has won 0 trophies last 5 seasons despite all the help.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 9 months ago

        "Rich to assume people hate"

        Within the same sentence mentions wild conspiracy theory about "all the help"?

      2. Paqueta Rice
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Literally proved me right with your post. Also a quick scan of the last 3-4 pages is all you need.

  27. dansmusen
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Fudge just remembered i have Ramsdale. Guess i should have played him over Sanchez.

  28. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Wolves winning 1-2

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Neves, Moutinho assist

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

      2. Zimo
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Ait-Nouri AA

  29. Zimo
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Bit of a boring start to the gameweek isn't it.

  30. Podge
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Livefpl is just getting better every week. Top class.