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3 July 2022 377 comments
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It was easy to miss due to the deluge of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) player price reveals but the summer pre-season friendlies got underway on Saturday.

Arsenal, Crystal Palace and Wolverhampton Wanderers were among the teams in action, all entertaining Football League clubs on their training grounds.

As ever, we’ll be documenting all the goals, assists and (where available) minutes played ahead of Gameweek 1 of the 2022/23 FPL season – and the dedicated Pre-Season tab is the place to find it.

This information might be of limited use at this early stage of course but it’s more and more meaningful the closer we get to the start of the new campaign. It is, for example, how John Lundstram came to attention as an ‘out of position’ defender three years ago. Said Benrahma’s pre-season minutes and form were also noteworthy last summer ahead of his early-season burst of form.

As for the action on Saturday, Arsenal thumped Ipswich at London Colney. A strong-ish XI swept into a 4-0 lead at the interval, with Eddie Nketiah (£7.0m) bagging a hat-trick and setting up Albert Sambi Lokonga’s tap-in. An advanced Lokonga, indeed, teed up Nketiah for two of his strikes.

The academy was brought out for the second half, with Folarin Balogun finding the net at the second attempt to round off the Gunners’ scoring.


Arsenal first-half XI: Leno, Bellerin, White, Mari, Cedric, Partey, Maitland-Niles, Sambi Lokonga, Pepe, Nketiah, Nelson

Arsenal second-half XI: Okonkwo, Walters, Kirk, Awe, Sousa, Smith, Oulad M’hand, Patino, Hutchinson, Balogun, Flores


Palace’s team selection mirrored that of Arsenal’s, with several first-teamers taking to the pitch in the first half but mostly youth team players brought on at the interval.

Jean-Philippe Mateta was assisted by Odsonne Edouard for the Eagles’ opener, with the visitors drawing level after a raft of substitutions at half-time.


Palace first-half XI: Guaita, Ward, Watson, Tomkins, Mitchell, Hughes, Eze, Schlupp, Rak-Sakyi, Mateta, Edouard

Palace second-half XI: Matthews, Clyne, Quick, Phillips, D. Boateng, Riedewald, McArthur, M. Boateng (Raymond 85), Plange, Benteke, Street


No footage or game-time detail has emerged from Wolves’ 4-1 win over Forest Green but the social media account for Bruno Lage’s side revealed that Pedro Neto (£5.5m), Chem Campbell, forgotten man Adama Traore and Bruno Jordao were on the scoresheet at Compton.

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  1. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 2 days ago

    Ederson
    TAA, James, Cash, White, Jonny
    Son (c), Salah, Saka, Neto (4.5m)
    Haaland (4.5m, 4.5m)

    Son to Bowen (GW2), leaving MITB to jump on the early 7 to 8m mid/forward bandwagon and switch to 4-4-2/4-5-1. Overthinking ?

    1. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      Having 5 x £4.5m players is too many in my opinion.

    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      If have tripper over cash to start.

      2 X 4.5 attackers means your bench is a disaster, I'd have 1 non playing bench players max.

      1. Chilli Heatwave
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        I have to disagree think cash was a certainty for me

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      just start with Bowen?

  2. Chilli Heatwave
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 days ago

    Andy, you tempted to just go for mendy/ramsdale now for the same price as your reya/meslier plan?

    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      Be mad no to surely.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        I am, yes. Either Mendy or Lloris.

        1. Chilli Heatwave
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          I may have to find .5 to upgrade Sanchez, such good value at 5

          1. Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Insanely good

          2. Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Allison/Ederson drop by £0.5m
            Mendy gets a full £1.0m off his price tag.
            Very generous.

            Just need Chelsea to actually sign a CB now though!

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 2 days ago

              It's good because the masses have been gravitating to 4.5 keepers on the basis that they're best value. FPL is making us challenge this assumption going forward.

              1. Brimble82
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 2 days ago

                And acknowledging that it’s not fair that GKs are priced the same as DEFs.
                With the modern game, DEFs have various ways to score points (and often do). Whereas GKs only have one (ignoring the unlikely event of a pen save or random assist).

                I think this is ‘realigning’ the points weighting for those ‘defensive players’.

                I’m here for it.

                1. Brimble82
                  • 7 Years
                  4 years, 2 days ago

                  Until we get a playing £4.0m GK.
                  Then I’m all about the bargain bucket!!! 🙂

                  1. Chilli Heatwave
                    • 8 Years
                    4 years, 2 days ago

                    Would have to be a 4 to challenge for value now you would’ve thought

                2. Andy_Social
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 2 days ago

                  I see it different. I'm looking at Lloris (hope to god he's 5.0) - played 90mins 38 games last season. Defenders will be rested, wingbacks rotated and subbed. It's the slow-but-steady security I'm happy to invest in.

                  1. Bitsketchy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    4 years, 1 day ago

                    I'm having a similar thought - probably Ederson (as who can tell with the rotation of Man City outfield?).

                    Set him, forget him, and take the guaranteed playing time and points. Don't forget, this strategy means you never have to use a transfer in goal unless there's an injury.....

  3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 2 days ago

    Not sure why so many are disappointed with Chilwell at 6m? Only played a few games last season but such a high PPM and James at the same price (when a lot thought he'd be 7 initially).

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      Both are cheap.

      I personally felt the game needed cheaper strikers and more expensive defenders, but they went the opposite way.

      It does feel like they're pandering to the casual player. Which makes sense tbf...

      1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Ah OK, I must have misread the tone of the posts then, I thought people were complaining because they were hoping for cheaper to fit their squads, in that case then I'm in agreement!

    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      I think we expected a 0.5m gap to James, surprised they are the same, I'd guess most go James now.

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Less chance of Chilwell at LCB though

        1. TheTinman
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          James at RCB is utter folly. Don't know why Tuchel tried it once never mind multiple times

    3. Conners
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 days ago

      The defender pricing more or less cements a 4 or 5 at the back strategy.

      The value there is too obvious to ignore.

  4. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 days ago

    Sad thing this year is there’s no need to do any analysis of promoted teams or hidden bargains

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Yeah that's the bad part of the pricing, there's more teams and players I can just straight up ignore

      • HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Agreed

      • TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Yep. They've killed the game for 50% of the teams. Feel sorry for fans of Forest, Bournemouth etc. You can't even justify a 4.5m defender from them anymore.

        Newcastle should have a couple of nice assets in Trippier, Pope, ASM and Wilson. But how can I justify getting them when the likes of Mendy are £5m

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Agree. This is unfortunate.

        2. SkyByBo
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Tripper and Wilson still great options assuming 5m and around 7.5m respectively. I do think the premium keepers are too expensive though, 0.5m gap between Mendy and a promoted keeper makes it a no brainer.

          1. SkyByBo
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Too cheap**

      • Drexl Spivey
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Unless they've adjusted to include more £4m starters.

      • Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        They could have bloody told me before I wrote 3,000 words on Philip Billing

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Lmao

          • Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            😆

          • Sheffield Wednesday
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            😀

          • Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            One for the archives!

          • Fish up a tree
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Classic! you may become redundant

          • df34
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Sorry ,that made me laugh 🙂

          • Old Man
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            😀

        2. Arteta
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Game's gone 🙄

        3. Conners
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Safe to assume it's designed that way in order to appeal to the masses which equals greater ad revenue.

      • HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        The “no premium” team….

        Alison
        Robertson James Dias Cancelo
        Diaz Mahrez Bowen Kulusevski
        Jesus Toney

        Raya Neto Tomiyasu Greenwood
        •5 for emergencies

        Seems nicely balanced but super risky??

        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          1 mil in the bank now James is only 6

        2. H.E. Pennypacker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Brilliant name, sir!

          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Thanks…. The grav took a while to get too 🙂

        3. SkyByBo
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Be good if captains didn't exist

        4. Conners
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Diaz, Bowen and Cancelo are perfectly good captain picks imho.

      • Arteta
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Jota, Havertz and Mbeumo have changed position. Do you think Son could also be listed as a FWD?

        1. LangerznMash
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Imagine the uproar hahaha I hope so just for the drama.

        2. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Wth Kane as a forward? I don't think they will.

        3. Sgt Frank Drebin
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          No chance imho

        4. SkyByBo
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          No

        5. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Possible. Still a great option.

        6. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          No didn't play the majority of the season up top.

        7. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Hope so
          Both forwards, same price
          Cat amongst the pigeons

      • unclesbasement
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        What website can you use to make templates atm

        1. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          FPL live

      • Chilli Heatwave
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        The more the prices come out the more of a bargain tomiyasou seems. A seemingly nailed full back (noted not a wing back) in a likely top 6 team for 4.5 is a giveaway.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Indeed. Him and Trent are the most nailed in my drafts.

          1. Brimble82
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            I’m probably ditching VVD to:
            a) fit Tomi in
            b) allow space for Salah/Diaz

        2. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          With good fixtures

      • Il Papera
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Saw some stats posted earlier for ~8.0 midfielders that were pretty inaccurate. So, to set the record straight:

        Mins per goal involvement
        Saka 149
        2978 mins 11g 9a,

        Kulu 90
        1259 mins 5g 9a

        Mount 107
        2358 mins 11g 11a

        Foden 132
        2125 mins 9g 6a

        Maddison 107
        2454 mins 12g 11a

        Diaz 137
        957 mins 4g 3a

        Adding Wissa to that to show what a small sample size can throw up:
        Wissa 140
        1268 mins 7g 2a

        1. Conners
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Don't suppose you have Bowen's numbers handy?

          1. Il Papera
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 2 days ago

            Best of the lot besides Kulu who only had a short lifespan last season.

            Bowen 103
            2987 mins 12g 17a

        2. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Maddison Bowen Mount Kulusevski wheel of transfer

        3. Conners
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 days ago

          Thanks for the info

      • Countess Weffie von Wobbego…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        4 years, 2 days ago

        Clean sheet 3pts? I can't think why they should do it but it might explain why defenders and keepers in particular seem underpriced.

      • Dale Sartip-Zadeh
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Arsenal doing well

      • Damien Sartip-Zadeh
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        lots of great goals