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15 August 2022 493 comments
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Our team of Pro Pundits, Hall of Famers and guest contributors have returned to offer their Fantasy Premier League (FPL) insight, tips and advice during the new season, with only Premium Members able to access every single one.

Here, former FPL champion Simon March asks whether we should pay much heed to price rises at this early stage of the season.

FPL team reveal: Why I've picked Vardy over Haaland and Kane

One of the big talking points following Gameweek 1 concerned price changes. In particular, the fact that Tottenham Hotspur’s Harry Kane (£11.4m) and Manchester City’s Erling Haaland (£11.7m) respectively fell and rose in price before the dust had even considered settling on the Gameweek, forcing many managers to either move early on their switch between the two or be priced out of the move entirely.

Gameweek 2 was no different, with thousands of managers making the switch from Aston Villa’s Leon Bailey (£5.0m) to Brentford’s Josh Dasilva (£4.6m) with fixtures yet to be played, not to mention an entire week to wait before the next deadline.

These situations illustrate a big distinction that exists among FPL managers; those who make early moves and those who make late moves, and this distinction tends to be most stark in the early Gameweeks. We’ve seen all-time FPL greats like Mark Sutherns and Fabio Borges argue either side of the debate, with Sutherns tending to move quite aggressively with the price-change market early on and Borges tending to ignore price changes altogether.

So, who is right? Should we pay attention to price changes?

The argument for early transfers

The argument for making early moves is pretty straightforward; if a player you want is rising in price and you currently have the exact money to get him, then moving early allows you to achieve that. Equally, if a player you own is dropping in price, waiting to move can lock you out of the desired transfers also. 

This approach can, of course, be fairly risky. If you are forced to make moves early in the week, you have less time to think about them and you cannot benefit from team or injury news. It does, however, tend to confer the added benefit of improving your team value. Back in the day, this was a huge part of FPL with dedicated FPL managers often having to put up with mediocre ranks for months until the opportunity came to play the since-deceased ‘Winter Wildcard’, at which point they could put their greater team value to good use and slingshot past the opposition. That was the plan, at least.

You could argue that amassing a high team value could be more beneficial this season than ever given the unlimited transfers managers will have available to them after Gameweek 16, not to mention two Wildcards and a Free Hit Chip. All of these levers are obviously better served by a higher spending budget.

So why do some managers ignore price changes and why do they do as well, if not better, than those who do?

FPL points predictions for Gameweek 3 and beyond 3

The argument against early transfers

I’ve already highlighted probably the most obvious benefits of waiting to use transfers; more decision time and more information on which players will actually play. But I’d argue that there is another, greater reason; those who make late transfers are forced to be more creative and to think in more detail about FPL than those who make early ones.

Counterintuitive as it might seem, restrictions can be a source of increased creativity. If you’re a fan of new-wave Danish cinema (and let’s face it, who isn’t?) you might remember the ‘Dogma ‘95 Manifesto’, which was a set of filmmaking rules introduced by directors Lars von Trier and Thomas Vinterberg and included points such as ‘shooting must be done on location’ and films ‘must not contain any superficial action’. The objective was to force film directors to avoid shortcuts and engage with the filmmaking process on a more intimate and intellectual basis, resulting in a more sincere and ‘pure’ form of cinema.

Similarly, when investing in a company, financiers often like businesses that don’t have too much money in reserve or, better yet, a small amount of manageable debt. Again, as counterintuitive as this might seem, these elements tend to indicate businesses that are run efficiently and have learned to ‘be scrappy’ and live largely within their means, they can therefore be trusted to put any money invested to good use and not to spend it on drum circles or on-tap kombucha.

Essentially, the more you are forced to think about something, the better your performance tends to be over the long run. If you allow your weekly transfer to be dictated early on by price rises, it gives you less reason to think about FPL for the rest of the week. Similarly, later on in the season, you might have a surplus of cash for your Wildcard or Free Hit but this will likely lead to you picking the most obvious players. It would incentivise you to ‘get under the hood’ like an FPL manager with more restricted-spend will. You could argue the advantage either way, but I’d back an engaged FPL manager over a rich one any day.

In fact, the value of a big spending budget later on in the season is probably a bit overstated anyway. A £1m difference in squad value might equate to a £0.5m difference in actual spending power, which is the difference between Arsenal defenders Gabriel Magalhaes (£5.0m) and William Saliba (£4.5m). In other words; you can make up the difference fairly easily.

Finally, it’s worth pointing out that managers who wait until making their transfers are probably also more likely to be managers who will carry the extra transfer when they can. More often than not, two transfers will be enough to circumvent any price rises, it might require some creativity with the enabling player(s) but, as discussed, that can be a good thing in itself.

Conclusion

There are benefits to making early transfers, most notably in getting the player you want, and also for maximising team value, something which can pay off later in the season. However, I would argue that these benefits are significantly outweighed by the benefit an FPL manager gains by having more time to consider their transfers, by receiving more team and injury news, and the extra motivation and engagement with FPL that can come from being priced out of the more obvious solutions.

There is no doubt that there are many, top-level FPL managers who make their transfers early and chase price changes (especially at this stage of the season) but I would argue that this practice is peripheral to what makes them great. These are managers who will be deeply engaged in FPL whether they have a particular reason to or not and that is the far bigger reason for why they are successful. For those of us who might need more of a prompt to think about FPL in detail, a few limitations can be exactly what we need.



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  1. FOO FIGHTER
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    I did say Milner would be a good option if you don't care abot the 3rd LFC spot.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      For your bench of course

    2. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Massive waste of a Liverpool spot

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        That is why I said "if you don't care about the 3rd"

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Even if that 3rd Liverpool spot meant nothing to you, which it should, Milner would still be a poor choice for a 4.5m bench option.

  2. Scots Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Already transferred Bailey to Da Silva, is Neco to Cucurella worth a hit?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      You can Play Neco, many will be.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Wait for next week for free

    3. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Really shouldn't have listened to Foofi and wasted that transfer.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        At least he is not stuck with Bailey and can play Neco whether he did it out of his own or not and you will still be figuring out what to do with Bailey at a possible 4.9.

        He can get in Cucurella as well with the 0.4 to spare.

        So please think before you post something.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          I am thinking - far more than you do. Now he'll be stuck with DaSilva. I've totally figured out what to do with Bailey. I think through my moves and don't panic into wildcarding after one game.

          1. FantasyHero
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            What happened with DaSilva?

    4. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Probably not worth a hit tbh, but it could be fine.

    5. Football is home
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Wait with Neco for Everton game.They had not score yet in PL this season. And Neco is on set pieces for NFO.

    6. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks for the advice peeps. Neco vs Everton is a pretty decent fixture to be fair, I’ll hang fire for a week

  3. FFSbet.com
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Cant see CS for Pool here,looks like high scoring match.

    1. maglia rosa
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      This

    2. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Not feeling good about double ‘pool defence anymore 🙁

    3. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yea the Matip injury during the week was a bit of a dent on the old double pool d

  4. Pariße
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    First time hearing about Nathan Phillips since he was 4.0m in 2021 and starting for Liverpool.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Played for Bournemouth last season.

      1. Pariße
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        So that’s why! I thought I’ve heard he left.

  5. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    2 FTs

    Ward ----> Sanchez/Raya

    Rashford ----> DaSilva (bench)

    How's that?

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Team:

      Ward (Iversen)
      TAA Walker James Cancelo Perisic
      Son Diaz Martinelli (Rashford, Andreas)
      Haaland Jesus (4.5)

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Raya looks good for price and fixtures ... I am doing next week and let Ward (SOU) to pass through

    3. dabber7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep Ward as your back-up and do Iversen to Raya.

    4. Khark
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I'd bin Rashford and roll into next week with 2FT's

      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks all, this sounds good tbh

  6. Bishopool
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool - Palace
    3-0

    assists: Salah, Elliot, Milner
    goals: TAAx2, Keita

    1. maglia rosa
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    2. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Stick a wager on that.

    3. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      3-1

      Robbo to be involved

      Would be nice(ish).

    4. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      😆 Robbo Robbo Robbo ...

    5. Piggs Boson
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Liverpool 5-0 Palace

      Goals: Robbo x5
      Assists: TAA x5

      1. polis
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Alisson to get one of the assists

      2. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Wonderful dream - but you're high on acid with that.

  7. yousunkmybattleship
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Crystal Palace win incoming

    1. maglia rosa
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

    2. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Nah, but goals.

  8. EL tridente
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ward, Iversen
    TAA, James, Walker, White, Neco
    Salah, Martinelli, Bailey, Neto, Andreas
    Kane, Haaland, Jesus

    2 transfers in the bank. Crazy to sell Haaland or Kane to upgrade Neto/Bailey?

  9. Free Hat
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Not a great bench so good news for Darwin,Diaz owners I guess...

  10. Mario Balofail
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool bench seems pretty weak. This could be ugly for Liverpool. Maybe Klopp is giving more chances for youngsters to dazzle or...I don't know...

    1. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Could be ugly for Pool? You've seen that Palace are starting Clyne, right?

  11. Thanos
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    RMTWC pls 🙂

    Mendy (Ward)
    TAA Cancelo James Saliba (Neco)
    KDB Marti Rodri (4.5 mids)
    Haaland Darwin Jesus

    1. Thanos
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      *Rodrigo

    2. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty amazing bar Rodri.

      1. Thanos
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks partner!

        Any suggestions up to 6.1M? Toss up between Gross and Rodrigo in my mind.

        1. Clintymints
          • 17 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Jensen maybe, not much going apart from Martinelli under 8

          1. Thanos
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            That's the thing. Under 8 is quite barren lands.

          2. polis
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Jensen's a bit of a non-option. Will get rotated as much as Dasilva.

            Nothing too wrong with Rodrigo short term, particularly if Branford is out but do think he'll end up being rotated.

            It's Bamford and then Rodrigo, James, Aaronson, Harrison, Sinisterra for 3 spots.

            1. Clintymints
              • 17 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              On some dead balls and Jensen should be ok at cm? I didn't manage to see the game or highlights yet, so not up to scratch on this sitch at this point in time

              He would never gona get played in my first 11, but happy to be a cash cow with the recent score

      2. polis
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ah Rodrigo.

        I like it.

        You know the risks of no Salah.

        1. Thanos
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Yep. The Fomo is crazy man.

          Even when drafting, it kills me not to have Salah and I know it will ruin me watching Pool matches. Would you be willing to lose Cancelo to Walker and TAA to another 5M def to upgrade to Salah?

          1. polis
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            I've gone Walker over Cancelo but I don't like it.

            1. Thanos
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Yeah. Cancelo already 6 points ahead in just 2 games.

              I think I read somewhere on FFS only that each million is worth ~10-12 points at the end of the season. So that's like a 20-25 points gap between Cancelo and Walker should justify the higher price of Cancelo. Think he will be much higher than that.

            2. Clintymints
              • 17 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Me too. I might rectify it this week. Playing Kulu over him atm, and surely Cancelo wins over the season. He's set and forget.

              Richarlison also popping up slightly pushing me a bit more for the Kulu > Cancelo change.

    3. dabber7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      9/10 great team.

      1. Thanos
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks!

    4. fantasyfog
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Good but Salah for KDB, or just KDB with Darwin Jesus up top, Salah KDB Martinelli Rodrigo 4.5
      Darwin Jesus 4.5
      Would that work?

      1. Thanos
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        I think KDB and Haaland combo will be unique and help to climb up the ranks. Not many will have them and most of City's attack will involve both of them. Expecting loads of goals and assists to be shared between them.

    5. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No Rodri 100%

      Would swap KdB for Salah since you have Haaland

      1. Thanos
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        See up for my reasoning to double down on KDB + Haaland

        1. Clintymints
          • 17 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          I'd rather lose Cancelo than Salah if it came to it

          1. Thanos
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Would be lying if I didn't say that I'm contemplating that too. Already got Walker but just think is the upside too much for Cancelo.

            1. Clintymints
              • 17 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Yea I wc, after the City game in week 1, and swapped can Cancelo for Walker. I chanced Kulu over Cancelo, but I might reverse the move this week and go for 5-2-3. For me it comes down to Cancelo or Kulu.

              Chances are Cancelo wins each week with that clean sheet potential.

              In your case he's the fall guy for Mo

              1. Thanos
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 1 month ago

                Yeah, I would also prioritize Cancelo + 1.0M over Kulu. Think Cancelo wins most of those duels.

                What team did you WC into?

                1. Clintymints
                  • 17 Years
                  4 years, 1 month ago

                  Sancehez Ward
                  TAA James Walker Saliba
                  Salah Martinelli Kulu
                  Haaland Dawsin Jesus

                  Iverson - Williams DaSilva Pereira

                  Looks so solid on paper, but missing Cancelo.. I'd be moving Neco to Cancelo and 5-2-3

                  1. Thanos
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 1 month ago

                    This looks smashing mate!

                    Cancelo there and I wouldn't want to bet against your team!

                    GL! 🙂

                    1. Clintymints
                      • 17 Years
                      4 years, 1 month ago

                      Yea looks pretty lit. Might make .1 on Kulu before the possible Cancelo move, but top team atm once you get over the madness of 5-2-3

  12. polis
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    I don't think the three premium allows for enough balance. You're basically resigned to points chasing around the fully budget mids and it'll be stressful.

    1. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Reply fail. To Mr El Tridente.

  13. Old Man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    A question: where is Matip? (non-owner)

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      At the end of your shaft

      1. Thanos
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        😆 😆

      2. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 1 month ago

        But he's a non owner

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Well thank you for that - I'd never have guessed. 😀

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Circumcised? 😉

    3. Rainer
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Minor muscle issue vs Fulham.

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Thank you.

    4. Make FPL Casual Again
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Old age is a terrible thing...

  14. Urban Cowboy.
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Do we think the infamous Bailey will drop tonight?

    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Nah

    2. fantasyfog
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Nope people doing other business first

    3. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Not tonight but this week.

    4. Football is home
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No.

    5. Urban Cowboy.
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers, looks like he lives to fight another day.

    6. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Probably Thurs/Fri

  15. @persecuted_by_mods
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ofsted to save Manchester United!

  16. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Trashford to drop twice this week?

    1. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yep. Particularly when he signs for PSG.

    2. Khark
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      He's probably the biggest mistake i've ever made in fantasy. He's gone after the game tonight for sure.

      1. polis
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        How have you held out 48 hours?

        1. Khark
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Was out on saturday night, missed the price drop so holding fire for now he definitley wont be in my team next gameweek though thats for sure. Just need to get through tonights game with no injuries so i know where i stand money wise

          1. polis
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Fair reasoning.

  17. lugs
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Mane had an incredible record against Palace, squeaky bum time for Diaz non owners so 😆

  18. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Firmino not even in the bench. Damn, Nunez will get 90

    1. Khark
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yup and Salah. Diaz has Carvalho waiting in the wings

    2. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      So based on the stats he's scoring 7 tonight, yeah?

  19. Bobby Digital
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Let's go Robbo, TAA and Diaz!

    1. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      OG, OG and a red. Uh oh.

    2. Clintymints
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Blank, assist, brace 😀

  20. Zalk
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    I'm the only one with VVD? Lets hope for a lot of corners...

    1. polis
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      About 1.3m have him. So... no.

      1. Zalk
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Really?

  21. Firminooooo
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Got a bad feeling about my double Liverpool defence.

    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Why?

      1. Firminooooo
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        The Fulham game and now Matip out…

    2. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Me too, that's why I've only got one...

      ...and Noonezzzzz

  22. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Klopp benched!

  23. Firminooooo
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Salah, Diaz and Darwin masterclass would be fantastic…but killl my rank.

    1. Firminooooo
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Got 71 to 1 on CP, Darwin and Dias scoring.

  24. Hughes Your Daddy
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    COYP! Zaha double, and will take a Salah (C) goal if I must 😀

  25. Herger
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Utd fan but Imll be supporting Liverpool tonight!

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Guess palace more of a rival these days for Utd

    2. Khark
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No proper United fan wants Liverpool to win under any circumstance

      1. Herger
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        I’m tripled up on them

    3. Firminooooo
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      We need it. Season over if we draw/loose.

      1. Herger
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        We’ve both dropped points mate but still think we’ll both be there or there abouts come the end of the season. Next Monday’s a 6 pointer already

  26. The 12th Man
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Worth a -4?
    Robertson,Bailey >> Cucurella,Gundogan.

  27. Top Bin
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Nunez out after the red card. Who do I bring in please?

    Thanks for your help.

    1. Drexl Spivey
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Could have a crack at Vardy if you can stretch.

  28. karno123
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Who are people transferring Bailey out for?

  29. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Robertson to neco Williams and Bailey to 8.0m mid(diaz) to avoid a 0.2 swing
    What yis think