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16 October 2022 1129 comments
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The best two sides of recent Premier League seasons do battle at 16:30 BST on Sunday, as Liverpool meet Manchester City at Anfield.

Jurgen Klopp makes five changes from the side that lost 3-2 at Arsenal in Gameweek 10, with James Milner, Joe Gomez, Andrew Robertson, Fabinho and Harvey Elliott all coming into the starting XI.

Trent Alexander-Arnold is among those who drop out, but he does make an earlier-than-expected return from injury, as he takes his place among the substitutes alongside Darwin Nunez.

Ibrahima Konate, meanwhile, is absent from the matchday squad.

As for Man City, Pep Guardiola makes just the one change from last weekend’s 4-0 win over Southampton, as Ilkay Gundogan comes in for Riyad Mahrez.

That means Erling Haaland leads the line as expected, but Jack Grealish has to settle for a place on the bench.


GAMEWEEK 11 LINE-UPS

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Milner, Gomez, van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Elliott, Salah, Jota, Firmino

Subs: Kelleher, Henderson, Jones, Tsimikas, Darwin, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Phillips, Alexander-Arnold

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Akanji, Dias, Ake, Cancelo, Rodri, De Bruyne, Gundogan, Bernardo, Foden, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Grealish, Laporte, Alvarez, Gomez, Mahrez, Palmer, Lewis, Wilson-Esbrand

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  1. A. PRISE
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Disgusting refs. Disgusting premier league. All is normal

  2. tryf88
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Haivng Maddison and James means only have 7 starting for gw12..-4 to replace both or keep Maddison? Who to replace James with? Any thoughts

    1. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I've just removed both of them + Jesus for -4. Solanke (will get Jesus back) + Mount + Veltman (Cancelo).

  3. Zalk
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Taylor trying to figure out how to be center of attention again, like all top refs do.

  4. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    The postponed game works pretty well for City
    Avoid playing Arsenal in strong form and get a full weeks rest when everyone else has midweek games
    Makes Haaland (c) decision for GW13 an easy one

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Just noticed Liverpool was the early kick off as well. Ghandi rule...

      Although doubt Forest will put up much of a fight

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Liverpool got forest

      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Not sure who is a reliable (c) option for Liverpool even if they beat Forest easy
        If Toney can brace against Brighton, Haaland easily can

  5. Total Foot 5
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Best def for gw 12?

    1.guehi x WOL
    2.young x ful
    3.castagne x LEE
    4.mee x CHE

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      1

      1. Total Foot 5
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ok, why guehi over young? Seems young in form and nailed

        1. Sun Jihai
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Have you seen Wolves open play scoring record?

          1. Total Foot 5
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Havent watched them, and seems diego costa not a threat for them no..maybe neves their only legit playr

      2. Total Foot 5
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        u think mitro scoring against avl i imagine

    2. Total Foot 5
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      5. cash/mings x ful

    3. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      1

  6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Haaland sitter

    1. The Philosopher
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Fraud

    2. putana
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      no it wasn't

      1. PartyTime
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Giroud would have done a better job there

  7. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Come on Liverpool. I need that Cancelo clean sheet gone.

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No

  8. RICICLE
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I have KDB & Halland.

    FML

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Ditto

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Only Foden owners don't

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        But very annoying timing for Haalabd to fail.

    3. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Still time for enrichment

  9. Baps Hunter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Salah in most central position I've seen I think.

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      *this season

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yes, naturally 😉

  10. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    I'm impressed Liverpool still has a CS.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Same

    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      People down-played liverpool all week

      They arent what they were but are still an elite team - Sunday night game at Anfield with that crowd and the current circumstances meant it was gona be this type of atmosphere

      Still 45min to go but this was exactly why i felt pre game Kane(c) was a slightly better call this week. 45min to go

  11. Digital-Real
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Darwin to get the winner

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Darwinner?

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Have an upvote, son

  12. Bluetiger1
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    GW12 Maddison - replacement with 5.0m ITB?

    1.Best Midfield options GW12
    a. Salah (Liverpool
    b. Bowen (West Ham United
    c. Son (Tottenham Hotspurs)
    d. Trossard (Brighton)?
    e. Other/alternative

    2. Captain for GW12?

    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mount

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks 'Nomar'

    2. putana
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      ty for telling us what team they play on

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        (Lol) my bag - miles away - sorry about that

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Trossard has Forest

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks G40Steve

      2. _Ninja_
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        The poster has put the teams they play for in brackets, in case we didn't know..

        1. Bluetiger1
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Apologies - my bag - I was miles away

    4. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Salah every day of the week

      Captain at home with West ham missing possible 2-3 defenders

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Who is missing?

        I'm torn between Salah for GW12 then keeping for GW13 then GW14 before possible moving out
        or Trossard against forest with other options in midfield as GW12 in tatters with injuries/Maddison etc

        1. FPL_trail_runner
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Im taking a hit to get Salah(c) in this week

          They were missing Dawson Zouma today + Obgbonna isnt fit yet and they have another cb out for the year

          The played multple full backs today (coufal, cresswell, emerson, Johnson with Kehrer )

          So ya i reckon its worth a 25% owned Salah with Nottingham next week as a punt

          Im gona have a 3 premiums until the WC from now - having this from 13 for -4

          Ederson
          Doherty White Guehi
          Foden Bowen Salah Martinelli
          Kane Haaland Mitro
          Ward Schar neco andreas

          planning Saka in for Bowen week 14 for FT

          1. Bluetiger1
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            GW12 -Thanks for in-depth update

            1. Bluetiger1
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 6 months ago

              I had not seen the games today to know whom had started or not for West Ham. Liverpool first half have played better than other weeks.

    5. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Salah is the best option but it depends what you can do with the money if you go Trossard.

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks 'Ninja'

  13. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Bernardo Silva has been so good.

  14. WVA
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Salah and Haaland blanks for the worst game week of the season.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane (c) 😉

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Yep main rival did this, 3 baps was a killer

  15. The Colonel
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    For 1 week punt:
    A) Solanke
    B) Wilson
    C) Mitro

    1. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

    2. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

    3. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

    4. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      C

    5. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Welbeck?

      1. La Roja
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Hasn’t scored a goal yet

        1. notlob legin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          He's due and for one week Vs Forrest

  16. FPL_trail_runner
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    As a Kane captainer can breath for 15min

    1. TomSaints
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Same. I think we’ll still be crying at 90 mins though

    2. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Im sure thr big man will fall over untouched for a pen in next 45

  17. FOO FIGHTER
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Good performance from Liverpool. Sound in defence and Haaland hardly getting a sniff.

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He still probably should have scored with that header - but yes very decent from Liverpool so far

      But city look sooo dangerous - Def getting Foden in to Join Haaland for week 13

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Robertson has been decent as well.

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Haaland should have scored

  18. Bounce
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Unbelievable that people are selling Kane to restructure their team for Salah.

    Kane is £1.3m cheaper and has 9G 2A vs Salah's 2G 4A.

    Foden, Saka, Mount, Martinelli, Maddison, Trossard, Zaha, KDB, Son all better options.

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Definition of being stupid 😉

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Who's doing that ? Haven't seen that many

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Slouch what’s with the name haha

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Goes back to 1987 . I'm a Coventry City fan ( Chelsea my adopted second team due to my son supporting them). When Cov win the FA Cup in that year Keith Houchen had a remarkable run of scoring goals in that competition although he couldn't replicate it in the league He was a lazy so and so and as a consequence was nicknamed slouch. Hence the username .

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            I see!

        2. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          The SlackWillie bit is due to a poster on here with a terrible inferiority complex which he tries to mask by making up nonsense about myself .

          1. Scapegoat Salah
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 6 months ago

            Haha ok think I know who you mean

    3. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I know, would defo rather sell Haaland and buy back at some poiny

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        *point

    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      No one is really doing that
      Kane has 6k transfers out for GW12, 50k transfers in

    5. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Haaland Kane + Salah is they way to go - thankful now for Maddisons yellow to open that option

      Running with this front 7 until WC

      Foden Saka Martinelli Salah
      Kane Mitro Haaland

      with Ederson + Doherty White Schar Guehi rotating nicely at the back

  19. N00B
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Best captain for GW12?
    A) Trossard
    B) Trippier

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      B

  20. SirWenger
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    This will end 0-0 and Kane captainers can festival heavily

  21. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    As a Kane Kapper I very much approve of this halftime scoreline

  22. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    That Saka goal looked like pure confidence. Nice to see

  23. keefy59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Roy Keane half time bingo
    Can I claim " final turd "

  24. FOO FIGHTER
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    What does Maddison > Mount for free sound like? Think he will be rested for GW12?

    1. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mount only played 45 mins in Milan ( not due to injury ) I expect him to start midweek but get subbed off if Chelsea get a comfortable lead. Currently the best Chelsea player

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I was going to bring in Sterling but Mount looking great.

    2. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Sounds like points chasing and hoping his lack of threat will turn into something real

      Two very low xG flukes today

      Play that game again 40 times and he scores 2 points 39 times

    3. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I don’t trust Potter’s rotation.

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      He's looking OK but both goals were from bad mistakes today, his free kick was basically down the centre of the goal

    5. bialk
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      I'm not touching a Chelsea player, except maybe Kepa.

    6. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Chelsea first fixtures not to great after Brentford

  25. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    When is Diaz back? Could be perfect Maddison replacement

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Only December

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Ok

  26. keefy59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Who is everyone captaining in g/w 12 ?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        This

      2. keefy59
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        I've already got Kane
        Is it worth bringing in Son as well for KdB ?

    2. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mepham

    4. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mitro or Kane

    5. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Salah

      I repeat

      West ham. are missing defenders

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        Mepham is a defender.

    6. Sailboats
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Salah if i buy him

    7. Babit1967
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Was Trossard before Friday, then Sterling before today, probably just stick on Trippier

    8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Jota

    9. mdm
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Salah or TAA

    10. Gizzachance
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Kane

    11. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Trippier

    12. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Mitro or Trossard

  27. La Roja
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Was Cucu subbed tactical or injury at HT?

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Tactical as he was playing poor and kept getting beaten.

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Purely tactical. He was rubbish a part of a back 3.

  28. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    James + Sterling ➡ Dunk + Salah (c) for a hit??

    Would you do this move?

    Ward
    Trippier Neco Dunk
    Andreas Trossard Bowen Zaha Salah (c)
    Mitro Toney
    - Ederson Haaland Cancelo Saliba

    1. mdm
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Yes

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 6 months ago

        A plus with Ederson on bench as an additional City/Arsenal player within your squad set fair for GW13

        1. Eleven Hag
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 6 months ago

          Cheers mate, if not for injuries to Diaz and James I was thinking of selling ederson and get KDB or Foden, but thats out of the question now until the WC break

  29. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Klopp troll with TAA comments

  30. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 6 months ago

    Has Robbo been back now? Worth getting for 6.8?

    1. mdm
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 6 months ago

      Prefer TAA for gw12