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Five more Gameweek 12 matches take place on Wednesday evening, with Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur following on from four 7.30pm BST kick-offs.

As predicted/feared, Jurgen Klopp and Graham Potter have made several changes this evening with the games coming thick and fast.

Trent Alexander-Arnold, Fabio Carvalho, Kostas Tsimikas, Jordan Henderson and Darwin Nunez are all recalled by the Liverpool boss at Anfield tonight, with James Milner, Harvey Elliott, Andy Robertson and Fabinho benched and Diogo Jota now sidelined for months.

David Moyes gives Flynn Downes his first Premier League start for West Ham, while the fit-again Kurt Zouma and Pablo Fornals also return. Vladimir Coufal and Emerson Palmieri are demoted to substitute duty, while Lucas Paqueta has reportedly picked up a shoulder injury and is set for a spell out.

In west London, Graham Potter has matched Klopp in making five changes from the side that began the 2-0 win at Aston Villa at the weekend.

Out go Thiago Silva, Ben Chilwell, Mateo Kovacic, Raheem Sterling and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, with all bar Chilwell on the bench. Kalidou Koulibaly, Cesar Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Conor Gallagher and Armando Broja are their replacements.

Hosts Brentford make two changes from the side that began the 2-0 win against Brighton last Friday as Zanka and Mads Roerslev oust Kristoffer Ajer and Yoane Wissa from the starting XI.

In the later kick-off, there is just one change apiece.

Marcus Rashford replaces Cristiano Ronaldo for the Red Devils, while Spurs’ Yves Bissouma comes in for the injured Richarlison as Antonio Conte opts for a 3-5-2 at Old Trafford.

On Tyneside, an unchanged Newcastle take on an Everton side who have Anthony Gordon and Dominic Calvert-Lewin back in their team. Dwight McNeil and Neal Maupay make way for the Toffees.

Some 300 miles south, Bournemouth are also unchanged for the south-coast non-derby.

The only alteration for visitors Southampton is enforced, with Duje Caleta-Car coming in to replace the injured Armel Bella-Kotchap.

GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Bournemouth XI: Neto, Fredericks, Mepham, Senesi, A Smith, L Cook, Lerma, Christie, Billing, Tavernier, Solanke.

Subs: Travers, Rothwell, Stacey, Stanislas, Dembele, Moore, Pearson, Anthony, Zemura.

Southampton XI: Bazunu, Walker-Peters, Caleta-Car, Salisu, Perraud, Ward-Prowse, Maitland-Niles, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Adams, A Armstrong.

Subs: McCarthy, Lyanco, Armstrong, Mara, Djenepo, Edozie, Diallo, Larios, Walcott.


Chelsea XI: Arrizabalaga, Cucurella, Koulibaly, Chalobah, Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Havertz, Mount, Broja.

Subs: Mendy, Silva, Kovacic, Zakaria, Ziyech, Sterling, Chukwuemeka, Pulisic, Aubameyang.

Brentford XI: Raya, Henry, Pinnock, Mee, Jorgensen, Jensen, Janelt, Onyeka, Roerslev, Toney, Mbuemo.

Subs: Cox, Ajer, Wissa, Dasilva, Baptiste, Canos, Ghoddos, Lewis-Potter, Damsgaard.


Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Tsimikas, Salah, Henderson, Thiago, Carvalho, Firmino, Nunez.

Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Elliott, Robertson, Clark, Phillips.

West Ham United: Fabianski, Johnson, Kehrer, Zouma, Cresswell, Downes, Rice, Soucek, Bowen, Scamacca, Fornals.

Subs: Randolph, Areola, Coufal, Antonio, Lanzini, Ogbonna, Benrahma, Coventry, Emerson Palmieri.


Newcastle United XI: Pope, Trippier, Schar, Botman, Burn; Longstaff, Guimaraes, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson, Murphy

Subs: Karius, Lascelles, Targett, Shelvey, Lewis, Fraser, Willock, Anderson, Wood

Everton XI: Pickford, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko; Coleman, Iwobi, Gueye, Onana, Gordon; Gray, Calvert-Lewin

Subs: Begovic, Holgate, Keane, McNeil, Doucouré, Davies, Vinagre, Garner, Maupay


Manchester United XI: De Gea, Dalot, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Fred, Antony, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford.

Subs: Heaton, Lindelof, Malacia, Eriksen, McTominay, Pellistri, Elanga, Garnacho, Ronaldo.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Doherty, Romero, Dier, Davies, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Bissouma, Son, Kane.

Subs: Forster, Skipp, Sanchez, Gil, Sessegnon, Spence, Tanganga, Moura, Lenglet.

GAMEWEEK 12 RESULTS SO FAR

Crystal Palace2 – 1Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton and Hove Albion0 – 0Nottingham Forest

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  1. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Casemiro ain't a finished fraud, sadly.

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He was very solid tonight, stupid to leave him out of the team.

      Poor Maguire must feel like completely useless lol

  2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    I've had Kane in two GWs this season, GW1 and GW12. He has returned in every single gameweek except GW1 and GW12. Funny old game

    1. Saïss Doesn't Mat…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      LMAO!!

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping? I'll run away from him then ...

    3. 1zverGGadeM
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      😀 😀 😀

  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Perisic subbed

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Got as much as I expected tonight. Sadly could have done with having him next week but suppose that's a doubt!

  4. 1zverGGadeM
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Spurs can blame the away kits designer for their poor form on tour 😀

  5. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Conte might get results but I would never want him to manage my team.

    Looks like a rat
    Whines and moans like a biatch
    Teams play awful football

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Eddie Howe looks like an uglier version of a young Steve Bruce

      1. TheTinman
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You take that back

    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Get some fresh air mate

  6. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Wow Ronaldo just walked down the tunnel

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He's such a crybaby when he doesn't play.

    2. fantasist
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yep hes already not happy with his bench role. And now no mins either.

    3. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      ETH should have let him go.

      Arrogant man thinks he is better than one of the top 10 greatest players of all time.

      Let Ronaldo play matches in some farmers league like Italy or France ffs

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        No one wanted him my dude.

        1. TheTinman
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Not true

          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Very true

            1. El Presidente
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 5 months ago

              Not true at all

          2. x.jim.x
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Let’s have some names then

    4. Noisy Neighbour
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Can’t hold his piss for 5 more minutes to celebrate his teammates’ performance. What an a-hole.

    5. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Without fully knowing why, the optics look terrible

    6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      And without smashing any fans phones too

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        this

    7. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Think he ll go to Inter Miami, the Chinese league or a Saudi League by January

  7. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is Dier going to get the own goal or will FPL Towers let this one slide? Really hoping they let it slide Dier not looking too pretty in my baclkine atm :I

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      It was on target so will stay as Fred’s

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      It wasn't Dier it was Davies. And it's not gonna be given as an own goal since the shot was on target.

  8. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Do we think Doherty starts v Newcastle at weekend?

    1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Is Emerson back from his ban?

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Doherty had a tough time today and got subbed for Sessengon. Emerson has had a nice rest. Couldn't be too sure...

    3. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah, he’s first choice now I recon, he hasn’t done much tonight but the whole lot have been ghastly

  9. AzzaroMax99
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Sanchez to Guaita or Sa?

  10. Berkshire Hafaway-Line
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    bye bye Christiano

  11. DycheDycheBaby
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Ronaldo fuming!!!

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      We all get crankier when we get older.

  12. JBG
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Kane this, Kane that. Fred was the man to get.

    But seriously, wish I forgot the deadline, would have had Zaha C.

  13. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    21
    + 3 bonus
    + 3 VC

    Ward Mitro Andreas left to play.

    Feels pretty damn poor.

    Great result for United, Ronaldo (C). Will only be upset if Mitro goes off.

  14. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Kane and gross to Darwin and foden for -4? Cheers

  15. Steinburg FC
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Ronaldo is still uniteds best player, hes just surrounded by mid table players

    1. 1zverGGadeM
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      It's not the players imo...
      The gaffer isn't right 😉

    2. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      wildly bad take

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He's a great goalscorer but the time has passed during which you could say he is actively a great player. He adds very little to any team's general play or defensive organisation or work

  16. Patio Kev
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah on a WC seems a waste, yes they have NF next but everybody is gonna captain Erling anyway.

    £13m is a lot when you can easily the cash and easily get Saka, Martinelli, Foden and Zaha as your midfield 4.

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yeh not good value at all.

    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely better value in midfield at the moment.

    3. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Could still have that 4 and salah

    4. Gandalf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He was the best captain on paper this week, but unfortunately didn't deliver the goods. Will let him have Forest and then probably bring in Saka for Forest

    5. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly my point!

  17. Dragon Arcana
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Was Salah bad?

    1. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah he was wasted out on the wing

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Too wide when Liverpool had control. Then when Darwin went off to let him go central Thiago went off too and Liverpool lost control...

    3. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Same as every game this season

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He wasn't great, looked more threatening when Nunez went off and he went central, had a few shots and one decent chance. Worth nearly 13m? I dunno really, if I had I'd hold especially before Forest, but I don't and I already wasn't convinced by him, tonight certainly hasn't changed my mind

  18. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Well, there’s only one man who can save my season now…

    WARD

    1. Berkshire Hafaway-Line
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ward is draw spelt backwards. What this means I don't know

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        0-0 DRAW with 5 penalty saves

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I have Bamford so have slightly more hope I feel/

  19. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Peresic was a load of s*** tonight

    Needs dropping for sess

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I’m surprised Conte started him
      Son yet to get anything when on the field with Perisic vs. 7 goal involvements this season with Sessegnon playing

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Son has had plenty enough chances when Perisic has started. Probably has some effect but you can't blame it all on the other player.

  20. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    So United beat Liverpool, Arsenal and now Spurs. Not bad!

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      We are back

    2. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      And yet they still won’t get top 4

  21. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Worst gw ever & had Bowen too

  22. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Hoping for an Andreas hatty, lol.

  23. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Need Ashley Young brace to save my week

  24. Viper
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A. TAA & KDB

    B. Cancelo & Salah

    I'll have Foden, Darwin & Haaland either way..

    1. Under my Cucurella
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

    3. jacob1989
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

  25. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Dalot and Koulibaly minimising the red arrow, Mitro Pereira and Watkins still to come

  26. Under my Cucurella
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all, any advice on below options appreciated

    A: Zaha > Foden/Saka
    B: Kilman > Robbo
    C: Guehi > VVD
    D: Save FT
    E: Other

    Guaita
    Trippier Kilman Cancelo
    Salah Zaha Martinelli Mount
    Toney Mitrovic Haaland

    Ward Andreas Dalot Guehi

    1FT 2.2ITB

    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Mount to foden/saka

  27. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Feeling a tad unlucky getting Rashford, Bowen, Darwin (-8).

    The swings and the chances, damn.

    We will call it variance.

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      That’s brutal, rash should have bad a brace

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah…

        Darwin should have had 2, Rashford 2, Bowen pen

        Atleast I find comfort in the decision-making process.

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Feeling that. Own Bowen and Darwin and only 5 points between them when it could’ve been 20

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I still don’t know how Rashford hasn’t scored

        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Rashford looked good, just missing the finish

  28. PogChamp
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Shame about Bruno's price but I need to ship Sterling out so do have the funds. Huge punt at 9.8m tho

  29. -GK22-
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    56 with mitro left to play a success?

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      BAN

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Of course

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Look at me mummy

    4. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Not really. If Andreas gets a hattrick tomorrow with no Mitro involvement then you're in trouble. Also heard Mitro didn't travel with the squad.

  30. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who’s going to play Cb’s for England?