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Five more Gameweek 12 matches take place on Wednesday evening, with Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur following on from four 7.30pm BST kick-offs.

As predicted/feared, Jurgen Klopp and Graham Potter have made several changes this evening with the games coming thick and fast.

Trent Alexander-Arnold, Fabio Carvalho, Kostas Tsimikas, Jordan Henderson and Darwin Nunez are all recalled by the Liverpool boss at Anfield tonight, with James Milner, Harvey Elliott, Andy Robertson and Fabinho benched and Diogo Jota now sidelined for months.

David Moyes gives Flynn Downes his first Premier League start for West Ham, while the fit-again Kurt Zouma and Pablo Fornals also return. Vladimir Coufal and Emerson Palmieri are demoted to substitute duty, while Lucas Paqueta has reportedly picked up a shoulder injury and is set for a spell out.

In west London, Graham Potter has matched Klopp in making five changes from the side that began the 2-0 win at Aston Villa at the weekend.

Out go Thiago Silva, Ben Chilwell, Mateo Kovacic, Raheem Sterling and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, with all bar Chilwell on the bench. Kalidou Koulibaly, Cesar Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Conor Gallagher and Armando Broja are their replacements.

Hosts Brentford make two changes from the side that began the 2-0 win against Brighton last Friday as Zanka and Mads Roerslev oust Kristoffer Ajer and Yoane Wissa from the starting XI.

In the later kick-off, there is just one change apiece.

Marcus Rashford replaces Cristiano Ronaldo for the Red Devils, while Spurs’ Yves Bissouma comes in for the injured Richarlison as Antonio Conte opts for a 3-5-2 at Old Trafford.

On Tyneside, an unchanged Newcastle take on an Everton side who have Anthony Gordon and Dominic Calvert-Lewin back in their team. Dwight McNeil and Neal Maupay make way for the Toffees.

Some 300 miles south, Bournemouth are also unchanged for the south-coast non-derby.

The only alteration for visitors Southampton is enforced, with Duje Caleta-Car coming in to replace the injured Armel Bella-Kotchap.

GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Bournemouth XI: Neto, Fredericks, Mepham, Senesi, A Smith, L Cook, Lerma, Christie, Billing, Tavernier, Solanke.

Subs: Travers, Rothwell, Stacey, Stanislas, Dembele, Moore, Pearson, Anthony, Zemura.

Southampton XI: Bazunu, Walker-Peters, Caleta-Car, Salisu, Perraud, Ward-Prowse, Maitland-Niles, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Adams, A Armstrong.

Subs: McCarthy, Lyanco, Armstrong, Mara, Djenepo, Edozie, Diallo, Larios, Walcott.


Chelsea XI: Arrizabalaga, Cucurella, Koulibaly, Chalobah, Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Havertz, Mount, Broja.

Subs: Mendy, Silva, Kovacic, Zakaria, Ziyech, Sterling, Chukwuemeka, Pulisic, Aubameyang.

Brentford XI: Raya, Henry, Pinnock, Mee, Jorgensen, Jensen, Janelt, Onyeka, Roerslev, Toney, Mbuemo.

Subs: Cox, Ajer, Wissa, Dasilva, Baptiste, Canos, Ghoddos, Lewis-Potter, Damsgaard.


Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Tsimikas, Salah, Henderson, Thiago, Carvalho, Firmino, Nunez.

Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Elliott, Robertson, Clark, Phillips.

West Ham United: Fabianski, Johnson, Kehrer, Zouma, Cresswell, Downes, Rice, Soucek, Bowen, Scamacca, Fornals.

Subs: Randolph, Areola, Coufal, Antonio, Lanzini, Ogbonna, Benrahma, Coventry, Emerson Palmieri.


Newcastle United XI: Pope, Trippier, Schar, Botman, Burn; Longstaff, Guimaraes, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson, Murphy

Subs: Karius, Lascelles, Targett, Shelvey, Lewis, Fraser, Willock, Anderson, Wood

Everton XI: Pickford, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko; Coleman, Iwobi, Gueye, Onana, Gordon; Gray, Calvert-Lewin

Subs: Begovic, Holgate, Keane, McNeil, Doucouré, Davies, Vinagre, Garner, Maupay


Manchester United XI: De Gea, Dalot, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Fred, Antony, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford.

Subs: Heaton, Lindelof, Malacia, Eriksen, McTominay, Pellistri, Elanga, Garnacho, Ronaldo.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Doherty, Romero, Dier, Davies, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Bissouma, Son, Kane.

Subs: Forster, Skipp, Sanchez, Gil, Sessegnon, Spence, Tanganga, Moura, Lenglet.

GAMEWEEK 12 RESULTS SO FAR

Crystal Palace2 – 1Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton and Hove Albion0 – 0Nottingham Forest

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  1. The Train Driver
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Safe to get Darwin in? No injury sub?

    1. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      100%

  2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Evening all!! What do we think to these moves??!!…..

    James and Wilson to White and Nunez???!!!

    Cheers everyone!!

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yeh like it

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thankyou mate!!

  3. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    With I free transfer and 3 m in bank best move or moves here (assuming no injuries tomorrow)?

    A Trossard to Saka on free
    B Trossard to Salah and Kane to max 8.4 striker- Jesus possibly
    C Any other suggestions welcome on what you would do?

    Pope
    Trippier Doherty Cancelo
    Foden Trossard Martinelli Zaha
    Kane Haaland Mitrovic

    Ward Andreas Castagne Guehi

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

    2. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A looks good

    3. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

  4. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Which is the priority to get in?

    A) Saka
    B) Martinelli
    C) Foden

    1. The Senate
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka om pen?

    3. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      C

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      - whatever and get 'em all in at once.

  5. The Senate
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Capping Kane was a dud but at least the other common cap options flopped too

    Should’ve hit capped Mitro

    1. NorCal Villan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      What’s to say he won’t be another dud?

  6. BlzE_94
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Best mid for £8.2m? (Have Maddison and Martinelli)

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Gray, Toffee chewing time has arrived.

  7. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who to transfer in first ?

    A Darwin
    B Saka

    1. SANTACLAUS
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka

    2. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka

    3. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

    4. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

  8. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What are thoughts with needing to wildcard this lot? 11m in the bank (I know...) and 1 FT

    Ward (Sanchez)
    Dalot, Trippier, Justin (Nico Will, Patterson)
    Martinelli, Trossard, Almiron, Antony, (Andreas)
    Toney, Auba, Haaland

    I had thought that Trossard to Salah could be a decent 1 transfer

  9. Marshall96
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Team
    Pope
    Trippier cancelo coufal
    Salah mount zaha martinelli
    Haaland scamacca mitro

    Should I get one of foden/saka in or deal with coufal. 1FT

    1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Am not sure Coufal even plays that regularly (he didn't today right). Depends on who the other defenders are but likely dealing with him first. The other midfielders you've got are good and not making massive change by getting in Foden or Saka for one of them.

      1. Marshall96
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I’ve dunk and fofana on bench

        1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Yeh, then definitely deal with Coufal. Fofana is out and Dunk's facing the monster this weekend.

          1. Marshall96
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Any ideas thinking of maybe an arsenal defender

  10. HD7
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Cancelo to Robbo
    James to Chilwell...

    Maddison to Mount and Jesus to Firmino (-8)

    Not the best moves in hindsight...

    Oh well... Man United dominates
    Bring on the WC

    1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Very unlucky with Robbo and Chilwell. Depending on the rest of the team, I may not wildcard - both of them are likely to start at the weekend, and so would Firmino. And they have a good game. Only question is if think Utd are gonna rock up and roll over Chelsea like they did Spurs.

  11. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Bottomed…

    Pope
    Cancelo Trippier Perisic
    Salah Mount Rashford Martinelli
    Haaland Mitrovic Toney

    Iversen Andreas Guehi Neco

    1FT, 1.9itb

    For GW13:

    1. Rashford >> Foden / Saka (then 3 GW14)
    2. Mount >> Foden / Saka (then 3 GW14)
    3. Perisic >> Saliba (then 1 or 2 GW14)

    Thanks

  12. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A) mount b) Maddison or c) zaha thanks

    1. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Which one to sell?

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry to buy

  13. BlzE_94
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    GTG?

    Ward
    Cancelo Trippier Saliba
    KDB Maddison Zaha Martinelli
    Haaland Jesus Toney

    Pope Andreas Dunk Neco

  14. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    fpl down goodnight

  15. Viper
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    On FPL review is a 2 point difference over 4 gameweeks as close as it sounds? Like is it literally predicting only 2 points in difference (i.e it really doesn't make a difference)

  16. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is this worth a WC?

    Sanchez/Ward
    White Neco Trippier Geuhi Cucurella
    Martinelli Mount Salah Bailey Willock
    Kane. Haaland Jesus

    Feels close but possible waste of a WC?

    1. spe_eddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on your current team!

      1. Heiro
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        That is my current team! Haha

        1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I have same thoughts with my team below. Looking at your team thought, I actually think it is in a worse state than mine (no offense). You probably wanna get rid of Bailey, Willock, Geuhi, maybe Cucu and a keeper. I also want to get rid of 4 below.

          Ward (Sanchez)
          Dalot, Trippier, Justin (Nico Will, Patterson)
          Martinelli, Trossard, Almiron, Antony, (Andreas)
          Toney, Auba, Haaland

          1. Heiro
            • 16 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks. Yep there are some super weak points

    2. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      WC there’s only 4 GW left load up on city Arsenal

      1. Tcheco
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Plenty of plum fixtures in 14 maybe even look to bench boost that week

  17. Tcheco
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Good day at the office. Time for Mitro & Pereira to make my arrow even greener

    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Not today thank you.

  18. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    27 with Castagne & Andreas left, anyone doing worse?

    1. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Same points, got Mitro left

  19. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Bowen > Saka
    Yaaay
    Nope wait after Bournemouth

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      BOU defense isn't too bad

    2. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Everyone wants Saka for a reason

    3. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      So Saka then

  20. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Want to go triple Liverpool for their next two fixtures. Should I do it?

    Trossard + Toney : arrow: Caravalho + Nunez (-4)

    1. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Triple pool?
      One of Salah/Darwin is enough I reckon

    2. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      No

    3. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'd be concerned Firmino starts next game and one of Carvalho/Nunez is benched.

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I feel the sentiment also, but it has to be a gut judgement call
      I want Robertson and Firmino even though I have to sell Virg to do it.
      Actually I may not sell Virg and double on the defence.

      I mean they have just beaten Citeh and Spam__That's a thing innit?

  21. Ten Hag of Bud
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Henry and Saha LOL

    Henry - ''Shall I grab some grass so you can have some food in the car?''
    Saha - ''I am sleeping at his house''

    Gold

    1. The Reptile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Don't you mean Evra?

      1. Ten Hag of Bud
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        That's enough smoke for today LOL

  22. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Trossard/Mount -> Foden/Saka -4?

    Pope
    Saliba Trippier Cancelo
    Martinelli Mount Zaha Trossard Maddison
    Kane Toney Haaland

    Iversen Andreas Guehi Dunk

    1. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

    2. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

    3. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Why do you have 6 midfielders?

  23. puhd
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC:

    Pope
    Canceló Saliba Trippier (N.Williams
    Bueno)
    Saka Martinelli Foden Zaha (Murphy)
    Darwin Kane Haaland

    Could downgrade Darwin to Mitro and upgrade N.Williams.

    Thanks lads!

    1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I am thinking of wildcarding and would be almost the exact same team as that.
      Only difference was Dalot instead of Saliba and Andreas instead of Murphy.
      Presume Ward is your 2nd GK.

    2. The Reptile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Only 1 Pool for NFO?

  24. Big Ronnie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A) Trossard to Saka
    B) Trossard & Perisic to Saka & Robertson (-4)
    C) Trossard & Perisic to Saka & Gabriel (-4)

    Pope
    Cancelo, Trippier, Perisic
    Foden, Martinelli, Zaha, Trossard
    Haaland, Kane, Mitro

    Ward, Guehi, Andreas, Neco

    1. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

      1. Big Ronnie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers, that's the one I'm leaning towards

  25. confused01
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Kane, Perisic, Billing > Darwin, Foden, Gabriel for 8...

    Yay or nay?

    1. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure about losing Kane

  26. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Who to transfer out for Foden:

    1. Mount (MUN, bha, ARS, new)
    2. Rashford (che, WHU, avl, ful)

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      1

      1. FCSB
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        So keep Rashford?

    2. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Mount

    3. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Rashford is looking very sharp

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Lol rubbish no he isn’t

    4. puhd
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I would keep Mount and sell Rash

    5. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Lose Mount. Rashford could have had a hat-trick tonight if wasn't for Lloris.

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Didn’t he only have one shot on target

        1. Triple Free Bench Hit Boost
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          For sure had at least 2 saved by Lloris. One was in the 1st half when he was pretty open and from the right shot across Lloris who got down low. Second in the 2nd half was when he cut in from the left. Have a feeling he had another too.

          1. ‘Tis the Season
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Only saw the late second half one. One handed save by the Frenchmen

        2. FCSB
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          No definitely 3 saved by Lloris, great saves… hard to tell if most keepers would’ve saved though

    6. ‘Tis the Season
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Not much between them but if had to..
      2

    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Mount. Potter rotation, MUN looking better than CHE and fixtures slightly better (prefer AVL/FUL to ARS/NEW)

      1. FCSB
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Unfortunately bought Mount in this week so it would be a straight in and out…

        Leaning towards keeping Rashford currently though

  27. Steve Stiffler
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Guita
    Trippier Gomez Guehi
    Salah Foden Bowen Zaha
    Haaland Kane Solanke
    Subs: Ward Justin Mings Reed
    1FT, 0.4 ITB

    Should I save FT or do Bowen>Saka?

    Thanks

    1. AARON-1
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bowen has Bournemouth at home. I'd save.

      1. RICICLE
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        But that’s good how? West Han aren’t free scoring, and Bowen flatters to decide, and is most likely now off pens, plus BOU are not whipping boys anymore

    2. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bowen > Saka

      1. RICICLE
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        This is what I’ve just done, I don’t believe in Bowen, can’t believe I brought him in actually

        1. OptimusBlack
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Me too

  28. AARON-1
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Ronaldo casually strolled down the tunnel. He didn't "storm down the tunnel" as many headlines are claiming.
    He should have stayed on the pitch regardless, but we could do without these incendiary headlines.

    1. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      How is either a headline? Just ignore him. He’s only after a bit of attention.

  29. CoracAld2831
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Guaita
    Trippier-Andersen-N.Williams
    Zaha-Andreas-Salah(v)-Martinelli
    Haaland(c)-Mitrovic-Toney

    Ward-Trossard-Zanka-Webster

    5.3m in the bank
    1 FT

    -------------
    Best move for this team in GW13?

    A: Zanka -> TAA/Cancelo
    B: Trossard -> Foden
    C: Trossard -> Bowen
    D: Trossard, Zanka -> Foden, TAA/Cancelo
    E: Other?

    1. CoracAld2831
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      D is for -4.

      1. CoracAld2831
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I could do Andreas to Foden too. But that would block the defender move.

  30. GOTHAM City F.C.
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Considering dropping Salah on WC and instead go for TAA, Robbo and Darwin.

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Think I'd avoid Robbo when Tsimikas has been playing well, VVD or Gomez instead maybe

      1. GOTHAM City F.C.
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Fair enough, Gomez probably a short term better value than VVD

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Too much Pool for me fellow Viking Fan

      1. GOTHAM City F.C.
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Kepa, Ward
        TAA, Gomez, Cancelo, Tripper, Guehi
        Saka, Martinelli, Foden, Zaha, Andreas
        Darwin, Jesus, Haaland

        That doesn't look too shabby is it