Pro Pundits
8 February 2023 410 comments
Simon March Simon March
Share:

Throughout the 2022/23 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) season, our team of Pro Pundits, Hall of Famers and guest contributors will be sharing their thoughts, tips and own transfer plans.

Only Premium Members are able to read every single one of these pieces, so sign up today to get full access not just to the editorial content but all of the other benefits, from hundreds of Opta stats to a transfer planner.

Here, former FPL champion Simon March looks at all things ‘template’ as we hit Double Gameweek season.

FPL team reveal: Why I've picked Vardy over Haaland and Kane

Engage in any substantive discussion of FPL and you’ll inevitably encounter the term ‘template’ at some point during in the conversation. ‘Template’ is the vaguely pejorative term used to describe a situation where everybody’s FPL team appears, at least, to be exactly the same.

In reality, the idea of a template is a little misleading as it is usually pretty rare for a large number of teams to be identical, but it does refer to the very real situation which occurs when all the seemingly key players are all highly owned. As a result of this situation, it becomes difficult to make significant gains in rank without deviating from the perceived ‘template’.

But how are templates formed? Can they be avoided? Or could they be used to gain an advantage over our rivals? These questions will be the focus of this article.

How are Templates formed?

Leicester v Man City team news: Haaland out, Foden a sub

If we take a template to be the collective high ownership of a select number of players within FPL, there are a few ways in which they can be formed.

The most obvious way a template can be formed is when the players who comprise it justify their inclusion by virtue of their performances. Liverpool’s historical points machine Mohamed Salah (£12.7m) is an example of a seemingly mandatorily-owned player in recent seasons, Manchester City’s Erling Haaland (£12.2m) is an example of one this season. When a few of these ‘must-own’ players emerge at once, the template is never far away.

There are also players who enter the template by virtue of them dramatically outperforming their FPL price. £4.0m Sheffield United ‘defender’ John Lundstram is a good example with his 144 points delivered in the 2019/20 season. Players who offer too good value to be ignored are basic staples of the template.

Now, realistically, the template effect should only be possible in situations where there is a dearth of viable, high-scoring alternatives to complicate matters. However, in such situations, attention will move toward contextual factors, such as a fixture run, and the template will often prevail regardless.

Particularly influential among the template-conducive contextual factors are Double Gameweeks, which might funnel FPL managers towards certain players based on the prospect that they may play twice. Situations like this sometimes create perverse circumstances where great-value, high-scoring assets are overlooked by the template, largely because they don’t have an extra fixture. Brighton’s midfielder Kaoru Mitoma (£5.2m), who has scored four goals in his past five appearances, is an example of a player who, by all rational measures, should be a template player, yet at the time of writing is barely owned by one in ten FPL managers.

The Social Factor

Have you ever wondered why lines of ants (bear with me) always seem to follow the same path? As I understand it, when ants are searching for food sources, they send their scouts out in multiple directions and they all leave a pheromone trail, which other ants can follow, as they go. Because pheromones dissipate over time, the ant who finds the shortest route to food will leave the strongest pheromone trail and, thus, his path becomes the most easily followed by other ants. Before long, more ants are following this trail and the pheromone markers get stronger and stronger until, inevitably, all the ants are following the same trail.

FPL, as we know, is a social game with a large community around it. Though some might argue otherwise, it is likely that time spent among the FPL community will give you an advantage over those who have actual lives. Immersion within the FPL community will, however, also make you more prone to ‘groupthink’, which is a phenomenon that occurs when individuals, often irrationally, reach a consensus opinion through a common desire to ‘fit in’.

Within a community, FPL managers might experience ‘fear of missing out’ when they see multiple other Fantasy managers choosing a particular player (particularly if that FPL manager has a large platform or is considered highly influential) and, through a desire to avoid the anticipated loss that might occur should they not also choose that player, or the stress of having to explain why they didn’t choose him, they may well go ahead and choose that player, whether they truly believe it is the right decision for them or not.

While this ‘bandwagon’ effect can be based in logic (like ants taking the shortest route), it can also be rooted in complete narrative nonsense (like an ant who forgot to shower that day and just ended up being a bit more pheromone-y than usual) but we will often follow the lead because, in FPL as with so many things in life, the potential punishment for deviating from the popular path appears far greater than the potential reward that might come from such acts of individualism.

Consequently, while we often complain about the template as being something that is ‘done to us’, it is, very often, something we in fact do to ourselves.

How we can use the Template to our advantage

FPL Gameweek 7 hot topics: Salah's form, Leicester's defence, three up top

Following the template is not necessarily a bad thing. For example, very few managers will have done well this season without owning Erling Haaland. There is a level of template adherence that is necessary for FPL survival each season. However, it is also, by definition, impossible to do really well in FPL by simply sticking to the template and, if there is truly one skill that defines an elite Fantasy manager, it’s knowing when and where to deviate from the masses.

Now, far be it from me to claim to have this skill myself, let alone be able to teach it, but it stands to reason that it begins by setting yourself a high bar for what information you allow to influence you. Just because a player has high ownership or you see them mentioned a lot within FPL circles, doesn’t mean that they’re the right option for you. In fact, every time a bandwagon or a template emerges, an opportunity emerges right alongside it for those willing to critically examine popular decisions and deviate from them when they believe it makes sense to do so.

This is particularly the case around Double Gameweeks, the importance of which often snowballs in the build-up to them to the point where having the maximum number of Double Gameweek players becomes a seemingly overarching imperative, irrespective of how good the fixtures or player options actually are.

Every Double Gameweek, without exception, a lesser-owned ‘single’ Gameweek player will outperform many of the twice-playing options, yet the question of who the former assets might be is almost entirely absent from the conversation with the vast majority of discussion dedicated toward who the best Double Gameweek assets are. Taking a well-reasoned but contrarian approach in these situations can be the kind of template-busting move that pays off enormously at this and later stages of the season.

In summary; set a high bar for how you are influenced, take a deep breath when it comes to Double Gameweeks and look for smart opportunities to be different and the emergence of a strong template can become the exact opportunity you need to break free from the pack.



410 Comments Login to Post a Comment
  1. Saviour22
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Help ! Help! Help

    Kepa
    Henry tripper Shaw
    Martinelli rashford bruno mitoma
    Haaland Kane Toney

    Ward Bueno Patterson da silva

    Bank 5m suggestion welcome

    1.Toney and Henry to Nketiah and white
    2. Da silva to saka Henry to ake
    3.Martinelli to saka and Toney to mitro

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      for free?

      1. Saviour22
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Nah

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      DaSilva - Saka looks the standout move. Ake is fine but I would prioritise triple Arsenal first. Luckily your squad is flexible to accommodate pretty much whoever you want as a 3rd, i.e. Henry - White/Gabriel or Toney - Nketiah

    3. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      2 with Gabriel (or White if funds don't stretch)

      1. SKENG
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        This.

  2. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    a bruno haul will make it difficult to sell for saka.

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      So Bruno owners should hope for a blank?

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Nah, he blanking in 25 and Citeh have an extra game.

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        for this gw i mean. will defo sell for 25

    3. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      No pen, no points

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        And he will assist one and score another just outside of the box 😉

  3. Biggsy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    How does Martinelli & Mitro to Saka and Nketiah (-4) look?

    Would give me

    Kepa
    Trippier, Botman, Gabriel
    Mahrez, Saka, Bruno, Rashford
    Kane, Haaland, Nketiah

    Ward, Mitoma, Shaw, Bueno

    Could obviously avoid the Martinelli move, but feeling ok bout the hit. That Mitoma benching mught hurt more...

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      For free its a no brainer. But I think getting the right Arse players for the two DGWs is must.

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        My worry is that it would leave me with 6 blankers + Buneo and only 2FT to sort

        1. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          you would need to take Bruno out this week to bring in Saka plus keep mitro and avoid the hit.

    2. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Personally I wouldn't take the hit involving Martinelli, but I don't think there's much in it.

      I think with your team I would do just Bruno to Saka.

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        That was always the planned move, and the one that gets me 11 in GW25. But some good words on here made sense that Saka to Martinelli could make up a hit in appearance points alone if the trend of him being hauled off before 60 mins continues

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I'd go for this. Playing 333 in GW25 looks fine to me. Worth the sacrifice for the long-term benefits of getting an improved Arsenal triple up

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Tis what I'm starting to think. Doubles mean a cheeky hit is less risky too if it doesn't mess up longer term plans

  4. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    I have landed on these moves for this week and allows enough free transfers to get 11 out in GW25.

    Bruno & Marti to Mahrez & Ode for free.

    To give:

    Ward
    Shaw Trippier White
    Mahrez Ode Saka Rashford
    Haaland Kane Mitro

    Iverson Botman Andreas Bueno

    Good moves?

    1. Chipmunk
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Yep

    2. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Yeah

    3. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Bruno out is risky, second Leeds game and Leicester at home look plum. But Mahrez (theoretically) and Odegaard play 4 games each in the time Bruno has 2 so does make sense

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Yes it is. I could just do Marti to Ode and forget about another Citeh player, but feel at least 2 are needed to make any rank gain.

        1. Biggsy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Risk with Mahrez is that the CL starts after 24 - and he's often played there and more at risk of PL minutes (Bournemouth in 25 could be a prime rest for some of the CL players). Does the double make it worth it? Dunno. Risky

          1. The FPL Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            I am thinking Mahrez to Salah (assuming he has signs of life) for the pool DGW25.

    4. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Good moves.

  5. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    This team needs free hitting in GW25 right?

    DDG Ward
    Shaw Trippier Botman White Lewis
    Mahrez Saka Ode Mitoma Rashford
    Haaland Kane Toney

    Or.. looks like I need 3-4 transfers.

    DDG to Kepa?
    Shaw/White to Everton def?
    Toney to Darwin?

    More and more tempted for the FH to not destroy my team.

    1. Chipmunk
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Nice team
      Maybe FH ?

    2. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I think you can manage that through 25 without a FH.

      You can bench DDG, Rashford, Mitoma and Trippier.

      So 3FT for Toney, Botman and Shaw to sort

      1. The FPL Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        this

    3. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Definitely manageable without FH. You'll need it more in the future.

  6. Fernandito
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    TAA & Andreas to Kilman & Mahrez worth a -4? (would have Haaland KDB & Mahrez for DGW)

    1. Chipmunk
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      TAA dgw soon

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        But also he's not exactly making a case for spending £7.3m of your budget on...

        1. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Kept him.this long, may as well keep for till the dgw.

    2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I don't think so, 2 City attack is probably enough.

    3. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I would keep TAA for DGW.

  7. SKENG
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Can I please get your thoughts on this team? I got 1 FT, 3.6M ITB.

    Kepa
    Trippier Shaw Martinez
    Odegaard Martinelli Rashford Salah Andreas
    Haaland Kane

    Ward Gnonto Bueno Patterson

    Initial plan was Salah & Andreas > Saka & KDB for -4 (need to downgrade Salah to afford the Saka upgrade). But with Liverpool and Arsenal's new GW25 double I am tempted to keep Salah and optimize my 3 ARS (get rid of Martinelli, probably for a defender).

    A) Salah & Andreas > Saka & KDB -4
    B) Martinelli, Andreas & Martinez > Saka, Mitoma & Gabriel -4
    C) something I'm missing?

    Thanks!

    1. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      B is for -8

    2. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I don't get why DGW is making Liverpool look attractive. They look awful. Their top scorer since the WC is Wout Faes of Leicester and they are almost bottom of a lot of defensive statistics like xGC. If they start performing, Darwin and Gakpo are easy and cheap ways in and allow you to better use Salah funds

      1. SKENG
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        I get it. I am leaning strongly towards A and not bringing in any Liverpool players for the DGW (not that I'd have an easy way to but anyway).

  8. Chipmunk
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Got
    Ode / Martineli & White

    Marti > Saka free
    Greenwood > Nketiah -4 (to Remove Marti to bench player)

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka

  9. Kodap
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    I've got 3.5m in the bank with 1FT and not sure where's best to use it, Toney > Nketiah and Almiron > a city player? Or something else more pressing.

    Kepa
    Trippier - Akanji - White
    Bruno - Rash - Martinelli - Almiron
    Kane - Haaland - Toney

    Ward - Andreas - Botman - Shaw

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Almiron to ode/saka. You already have 2 citeh which is enough imo.

  10. Boom XhakaLacaSaka
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    1FT 1.9itb
    Kepa
    Trippier Tete Akanji
    Rashford Odegaard Martinelli Andreas Bruno
    Haaland (c) Kane

    Ward Toney Shaw Patterson

    A) Toney > Nketiah
    B) Toney + Martinelli > Nketiah + Saka (-4)

    1. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      B is better long term

  11. Chipmunk
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Nketiah or Saka?

    1. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      My dilema, gut says Saka, stats say Nketiah

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka long term

    3. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka is the best Arsenal asset imo so him

    4. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka

  12. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    What's your ideal GW25 team would be?

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Leno
      Ake Tarkowski Moreno
      Saka Ødegaard Mahrez Maddison
      Haaland Kane Nketiah

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Perhaps Salah + Xxx instead of Mahrez+ Madds?

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Yeah maybe Maddison wouldn't be there on FH just for the fixture. But in practice I think I'm more likely to do Bruno - Maddison & just take the Arsenal fixture rather than something like Bruno - Salah (25) - Maddison (26), especially if there's a BHA DGW to follow (saving an FT for Estupinan maybe)

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        This would be my FH team, with maybe a fit DCL over Kane

      3. notlob legin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        No Bamford? LOL

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          My front 3 is kind of locked in at the moment, no spot to tinker with / rotate. Hadn't thought seriously about FH but, given the difficulty picking mids, maybe Nketiah - Bamford, Maddison - Martinelli could be an option.

          I tend not to pick that many Leeds players actually, apart from starting last season with Meslier, Raphinha & Bamford. Maybe there's an element of FPL points being a kind of compensation for Leeds losing

          1. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            One of my friends is a Leeds fanatic and always picks players playing against them. His logic is if they loose he's more likely to get FPL points to compensate.

            1. The Mentaculus
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              There's a logic behind the logic when you support a team that can't defend!

          2. notlob legin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Also I'm a QPR supported so don't have the worry of picking players from own team!!

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      No idea what the ideal is, but mine is influenced by the context of not losing great players or my FH chip to ensure I reach 11, as explained here: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/25637150

      Kepa
      Spurs City Chelsea Arsenal
      (VC)Saka (C)Odegaard
      Kane Haaland Darwin

      Sanchez Mitoma March Trippier Rashford

      Darwin is a luxury punt if affordable after getting the more important assets. If unaffordable or if Liverpool still looks crappy in the games beforehand: Watkins, Mitro or Bamford can outscore Darwin with a single fixture, or DCL with his double

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Why Spurs and Cheslea def?

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Please click the link

          1. Eleven Hag
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Haha cheers, So it's for the Gw29, wouldn't it be leaving pts in the GW25 as spurs and Chelsea play each other?

            Although it's too much to process for my little brain, would you hold on to Cucurella if u own him or will he be out of favor wit chilwell back?

            1. Ze_Austin
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              I don't make decisions based on one week. I like the points I expect from Spurs and Chelsea defenders in a period spanning GWs 24 to 30

              Looking at the points I expect overall from those fixtures, and the fact that I don't have a wildcard so every transfer must be a squad improvement, I'm willing to overlook their few tough games in which I can't rotate, which happens to really just be GW25. I'm not too bothered about that because there's still a chance of a 0:0

              About Cucurella: the last time he was subbed off, he looked very upset with himself. Potter earlier acknowledged that Marc isn't himself atm due to various issues, including some personal ones. I expect Chilwell to be nailed when fully up to speed, at least for now

              See how Badiashile dunked Koulibaily from the team, for example. Potter can be ruthless with that

              1. Eleven Hag
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 19 days ago

                Cheers for your insight on Cucurella, so it's a sell for me, probably this week.

                So you already used your WC?

                1. Ze_Austin
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 19 days ago

                  Yeah, GW18. Changed my approach to the game and sold some unlimited transfer punts. Some mistakes have still been made since then, like not capping Haaland for the same reason he's not scored more than once in all the other recent games... Except for the one where I didn't cap him, of course

  13. The Blackadder
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Best replacement for Stones? Feel any defender from City is a bit of a lottery at the moment

    1. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Ake seems in favour

    2. The Blackadder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Guess I should say defence is
      Trippier, Saliba, Castagne, Williams and Stones

    3. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Ake

  14. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Whats biggest priority?
    1. Kane

    2. Mahrez

    3. Saka

    1. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      For the next few game weeks Saka. Long term Kane

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Would you get Nketiah then switch to Kane? Or prefer Saka?

        1. notlob legin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          Personally prefer Saka

          1. JT11fc
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Thanks

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      312

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Thanks

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      3

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Thanks seems unanimous

    4. Ranger3
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka, 2 Double coming

      1. JT11fc
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Cheers

    5. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka

  15. jason_ni
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Which 2 would you rather have for this gw:

    A)Martinelli
    B)Fernandes
    C)Mahrez
    D)Saka

    I own Martinelli and Bruno - but considering if its worth FT and sell one/both of them to get either Mahrez or Saka

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      A and D

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      C and D.

    3. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      D C

    4. Wirtzel Gummidge
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      CD.

  16. Erez Avni
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    what woud you do here?

    1 FT 2.1 ITB

    Kepa
    Trippier Shaw White
    KDB Bruno Rashford Martinelli
    Mitro Halland Toni

    Ward Botman Andreas Bueno

    Cheers!

    1. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I'd do Martinelli to Saka.

    2. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Bruno to Saka

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Toni Basil out

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Agree. She was already 40-odd when she did that cheerleader stuff. Not sure an 80 year old can be reasonably expected to play 90 mins every week.

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          What a pity

  17. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Martinelli and Bruno -> Saka and Mahrez (-4)?

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Looks good

  18. Ranger3
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    TC Haaland ? Or Hold ? I have this planned, and now City general situation and form is not really making me confident

    1. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Too many uncertainties for me, having said that city do bounce back well normally

      1. Ranger3
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Yes I have this feeling, 2 or 3 goals against Villa and 1 or 2 against Arsenal, don't want to miss that

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Unsure as well, may use it on Haaland next.

      1. Ranger3
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Next ? Another Double ? This home game vs Villa looks ideal to bounce back, and there will be goals in the big game.. So tempted

        1. Letsgo!
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          I dont think aston villa will be thrash

          1. Ranger3
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Villa looked more solid yes, but then takes 4 against Leicester.. Haaland scored 3 against a solid Wolves in 15min.. Never know but it can be the biggest haul this Double

        2. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          GW23

        3. Ze_Austin
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          DGW 34 is still possible for Haaland, and could be Brighton(A) + Fulham(A). Or even DGW29 with Liverpool(H) + West Ham(H) if you aren't using your BB then. See the DGW29 possibilities here: https://twitter.com/BenCrellin/status/1623005990865014785?s=20&t=knw_QJ_RQ4jZ1mW_Uqzklg

          I think City's recent stumbles serve as a reminder that Haaland still needs service from a team in form, as he's more of a ruthless finisher than a self-creator

          1. Ranger3
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 19 days ago

            Thanks for that, DGW29 looks good also, 2 home games.. But not confirmed is the problem

            1. Ze_Austin
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 19 days ago

              Yes. This uncertainty is what led me to stop seeing Haaland as the only triple captain option this season

              It's not just Rashford in 22. There's Mitoma in 26 or 27... And if you're not going BB29, there will be a whole host of TC options then

    3. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      If I still had it I would use it on Saka in 25.

      1. Ranger3
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        1 double digit all season, not for me

    4. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      TC Haaland sounds like he should be the sheriff of St Lucie county.

  19. Gizzachance
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Bruno an Almiron to mahrez saka-4
    That will get rid of two blank gw 25 players as I have triple utd an Newcastle!
    Cheers

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Go for it, there are hits all over the place this week.

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Thanks

    2. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Very good transfers.

      1. Gizzachance
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Cheers

  20. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    I agree with your points yet again, Simon

    I don't like the idea of checking EO or micromanaging the weekly rank movements from owning or not owning/starting a player

    I've noticed that the social focus of the game has shifted from maximising points by the end of the season (the only thing which affects your final true overall rank) to maximising weekly rank gains, due to the rise to prominence of some fun tools like livefpl.net. I don't blame the makers of said tools, as they are nice for engagement and give faster psychological rewards than waiting for the official game to update the morning after all matches are done. Still, I feel that's all there should be to it: a reward system from seeing your choices lead to the endorphin boost of green arrows and mini-league success, but not much else

    Weekly rank gains now decide everything from considering a great and deservedly popular asset's many hauls as "boring" (to the point of selling or ignoring Trippier, Kepa, Shaw or Kane) to picking players who aren't popular for clear logical reasons with justifications like "How else will your rank rise if you don't take such risks?"

    I still believe that the best approach to this game is based on expected points, ignoring factors like ownership and price. I don't completely ignore OR because it's still a rank-based game: if I don't see much of a difference in the potential between two assets, I'll pick the popular one because of the effect of random chance. That effect could be that my less popular asset randomly gets injured or carded while the popular one scores a brace/hat trick, and then I'll need to get those points back vs everybody else before the end of the season (OR doesn't matter until GW38), making things unnecessarily difficult for myself. If I feel Mitoma will outscore KDB, yet KDB is owned by 35% and Mitoma is owned by 10% at half the price, I'm taking that hit for Mitoma on current form with the fixtures ahead, even without an upcoming DGW

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Don't have time for your interesting posts expressing your considered and reasonable opinions here.

      More AB questions and rate my teams. Got to give the people what they want.

    2. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Overall Rank is the most important thing for me - I mainly play year in year out to try and get the best overall rank possible. Most concentrate on private leagues, so there are many different ways to play the game. But for me trying to continually get in the top 100k is always my aim (not very ambitious I know)

      I like your theory on expected points and I took the leap and got Mitoma 3 weeks ago based purely on the "eye test" - do you use the RMT tool or any other sites for this or do you base this on your own opinion?

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Not the tools alone, as I believe the popularly weighted stats never cover the full picture... For instance, Darwin's expected points will remain high as he keeps shooting a lot. Same for perennial members of the goals imminent table. Stuff like accuracy and team morale rarely show up in an individual's stats

        I definitely still use stats, especially stuff like defence stats and team goal threat, to get a general idea of the big picture. In smaller cases, I'll use stats to pick between two confusing options with good form with the comparison tool

        But it has to be from players I've identified from watching myself or reading other people's impressions from watching them. One feature I really like about this site is that I can ask "How did Toney look? I didn't expect 1 point vs a bad defence" and I got two different valuable responses in the comments and in the scout notes: he lacked service and was locked down vs Leeds, then he was very unlucky vs Soton and even had a goal cleared off the line. That means I don't consider him a firesale. This is then backed up by good stats, so I'll keep him until GW25

        Always, always a big-picture approach for me

    3. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Ultimately you should pick the players you think will get the most points.

      Stuff like “templates” and “essential” and “differentials” and “benching headaches” are distractions (I often fall for).

  21. J to the T
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Bench one

    A Mitro NFO
    B Mitoma cry

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      A and play the one in form

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      A

    3. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Never bench Mitoma. Brighton manager literally said that.

    4. SKENG
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      B

  22. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    With the dgw announce for arsenal. Will u still sell martinelli this week? Surely he cant be bench for all the games ?

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Only sell if getting saka/ode/Nkatiah

      1. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        No but i will wanna keep marti so i have both marti and saka.

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      He will Trossard is the coming man.

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      When you use the word ‘surely’, sell!

  23. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    I've decided that getting Saka is essential for this week.

    What route is best?

    A) Almiron + Burn > Saka + Lewis (must do the Lewis move to raise funds)
    B) Mitro + Martinelli > Nketiah + Saka
    C) Don't go Saka for the sake of nailedness. Almiron + Burn > Odegaard + Akanji

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      C

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      By "nailedness" I take it you're referring to Lewis/Nketiah?

      I would go B, although would you do Nketiah - Jesus when fit or is your budget tied up by keeping the likes of KDB/Bruno (saw you might FH25)?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Budget is quite tied up tbh.

        B is strongest for GW23 but leaves me with triple United, triple Newcastle and Bueno which basically forces me to FH25.

    3. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      B. I like the other two options as one more gw25 blank player is gone thought.

  24. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    I expect Arsenal - City game to be 1-0 or 2-1 to Arsenal. After watching thier fa cup game at Etihad, I thought Arteta knew exactly what to do against pep, his under strength team didn't give a sniff to city on the day, had answers all over the pitch, and hence I expect them to be only better with their full team and being at home.

    With this in mind, I consider this as a single gw for City, So would u do Bruno to Mahrez if it's a single gw ? 🙂

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      You've answered your own question. If that's what you think then no.

    2. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I was planning that move but am going to hold for now - so it's a "no" from me

  25. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Martinelli knee-jerkers may regret it. He still looks threatening.

    1. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Yeah I think it’s I’ll take Martinelli with slight Xmins risk and a saved transfer against a sideways move to a teammate tbh

      But I also held Martial for this double so what do I know?

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Not much, by the looks of it. But you are honest and that is a very worthy trait.

        1. Casual Player
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 19 days ago

          When you’re right 52% of the time, you’re wrong 48% of the time

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Bobb knows.

  26. Rex Lapis
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Which one?
    A. Martinelli > Odegaard
    B. Bruno > KDB
    C. Both for a hit

    1. Conners
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I'm doing C.

      It could backfire, but I think it's worth the risk given KDB's extra fixtures (on paper) and doubts over Martinelli's minutes.

  27. Kodap
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    If you were losing Almiron for one of Ode/Saka, who would you pick?

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      Saka easily.

      1. AARON-1
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 19 days ago

        Yes. I've done Almiron to Saka

  28. Kloppage Time
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Would you BB this or save until later?

    Ward: Mitrovic, Botman, Estupinan

    1. AARON-1
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      there will be a big double game week in which bench boost will be much better

  29. AARON-1
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    So, Darwin has gone from being the laughing stock of FPL to stratospheric must-have status for Liverpool's GW25 double according to some content creators.
    I think I'll pass, thanks.

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      I think I'll pass on twitter, thanks

    2. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 19 days ago

      The real trendsetters like me have held him the whole time

  30. Khalico
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 19 days ago

    Team for GW23 GTG?
    Kepa
    Shaw, Zinchenko, Trippier
    Mitoma, KDB, Saka, Rashford, Almiron
    Haaland (C), Kane
    Subs: Sanchez, Toney, Estupinan, Lewis