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Double Gameweek 23 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) gets underway at the London Stadium, where Chelsea are West Ham United’s visitors.

Kick-off is at 12:30 GMT.

Reece James is the only player on show with a double-digit ownership in FPL but among ‘active’ teams, this match is all about Kepa Arrizabalaga: the in-form goalkeeper is owned by 55.88% of the top 10k, by way of example.

As for the team news, Mason Mount is benched for the first time in the Premier League since Graham Potter took over.

The England international is one of three players who makes way from the side that drew 0-0 with Fulham, with Conor Gallagher and Hakim Ziyech also having to be content with places among the substitutes.

New signing Noni Madueke makes his first start since joining the Blues in the January transfer window, while fellow winter recruit Joao Felix returns from suspension to take his place in the Chelsea attack.

Ruben Loftus-Cheek also makes his first start since before the World Cup, while Mykhailo Mudryk keeps his place on the left flank.

West Ham boss David Moyes names an unchanged side from the 1-1 draw with Newcastle United, with defender Thilo Kehrer shaking off an injury to make the starting XI.

GAMEWEEK 23 LINE-UPS

West Ham United XI: Fabianski, Kehrer, Ogbonna, Aguerd, Coufal, Lucas Paqueta, Rice, Emerson Palmieri, Bowen, Benrahma, Antonio.

Subs: Johnson, Fornals, Lanzini, Downes, Ings, Soucek, Hegyi, Anang.

Chelsea XI: Arrizabalaga, James, Thiago Silva, Badiashile, Cucurella, Loftus-Cheek, Fernandez, Madueke, Joao Felix, Mudryk, Havertz.

Subs: Bettinelli, Chalobah, Mount, Chilwell, Ziyech, Gallagher, Datro Fofana, Azpilicueta, Chukwuemeka.

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  1. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Goal disallowed if its an accidental handball in the build up but they ignore Souceks save. \0/

    1. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      They must've thought souceks hand was NOT in an unnatural position

  2. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Chelsea interested in make an offer for souceck

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Backup for Kepa

  3. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Does Soucek get any save points?

  4. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    500million more investment required in this Chelsea side

    1. Gunners in Haaland
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      A good coach investment

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      I’d say at least a billion more needed to keep the plastic fans happy.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Nobody mentioned plastic fans previously re Chelsea Wonder where you copied that from ?
        No originality.

        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 23 days ago

          Wow you invented the word plastic. Another outrageous claim from award winning liar Slugtch

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            Read the my statement above more clearly then get back to me ( give you a clue - the "re Chelsea" bit is relevant).
            Another factual statement from myself .
            You will not find a single untruth on here from me as opposed to your catalogue of proven lies witnessed by many .

  5. A guy
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    I can see why VAR didn’t give a penalty there. For situations where a player is falling down and his hand serves as support for the fall, the guidelines are that it shouldn’t be deemed a foul play.

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      He threw himself down there though

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      it was intentional

      a little disguise but for anyone who's played it's obvious enough

      1. Limbo
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Yeah. He's even looking. Deliberate as.

    3. Ruinenlust
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      So a player can fall down to save a shot with his hand?

    4. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Disagree, he knew what he was doing

    5. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      He was looking at the ball & moved his shoulder to save the ball with his hand

    6. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Ask yourself if he’d have fallen like that if the shot was to the other side of him.

  6. Rash
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    After all the clamour to get out martinelli it would be very ironic for him to haul.

    1. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      I'm a martinelli & expect this

      1. Shultan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        *seller

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Nice surname

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      quietly confident of a haul

    3. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      You know he will too, just the way it is

    4. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      If he scores ex-owners will need Nketamine to get over the pain.

      1. Limbo
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        I'm salibating at the prospect.

    5. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      I kept him and White... so expect both to get y/c and off at 59 mins.

      1. Rash
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Same here

  7. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Soucek looking at the ball as he puts his hand in the way.

    https://twitter.com/Chels_HQ/status/1624415036071444484?t=V98XSy7O-aOCd03W4Ao0mg&s=19

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      He was falling, where did you expect his hands to be? In the sky?

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Strange coincidence that it landed directly behind the path of the ball.

        1. ZeBestee
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 23 days ago

          He was falling, and given his stature, at least one hand would go down to support his body not to hit the ground.

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            Directly behind the path of the ball. Clear penalty

            1. ZeBestee
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 23 days ago

              Yeah maybe if the ball did touch the hand.

          2. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            By that logic, every gk “falls” towards the ball

          3. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            Which would more naturally have fallen not behind the path of the ball.

    2. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Even on 1st look I thought penalty

  8. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Chelsea with all that investment should at least be climbing up the table. If they dont get CL next season, it will be utter failure.

  9. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Does actually look like it came off his knee though?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Yeah saw it like it was the knee, as the hand quickly moved in the direction of his body.

      1. Bartowski
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Those are still shots where the perspective doesn't show you the gap between his hand and the ball.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 23 days ago

          It 100% didn’t hit Soucek’s knee

          1. Bartowski
            • 15 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            Well that settles that then...

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              3 years, 23 days ago

              It’s not an opinion!

              1. Bartowski
                • 15 Years
                3 years, 23 days ago

                Opinion - a view or judgement formed about something.

                1. Twisted Saltergater
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  3 years, 23 days ago

                  An opinion is subjective. It is a fact that the ball didn’t touch Soucek’s knee.

                  1. Bartowski
                    • 15 Years
                    3 years, 23 days ago

                    You've formed an 'opinion' on the video you've seen. A somewhat obscured video where the ball is travelling fast. VAR has seen that and their own video and formed a different opinion based on that.

                    1. Twisted Saltergater
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      3 years, 23 days ago

                      Please just go and watch the other camera angle. There’s a ton of daylight between the ball and his knee.

                      VAR didn’t give the pen because they thought Soucek was using his arm to support his fall. Nothing to do with his knee.

                      1. Bartowski
                        • 15 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        Okay, I have watched the videos, I would lean more to his hand now because of the odd spin of the ball, although it is still somewhat obscured to be certain.

                        I don't think that's true what you're saying about VAR though, that is the opinion of the ref BT Sport employ. VAR haven't made a statement as far as I know and like I said, do have their own cameras they look at.

                    2. George Sillett
                      • 10 Years
                      3 years, 23 days ago

                      I've seen a number of video replays from many angles from various service providers. The ball does not at any point touch any part of Soucek's knee. Transparently clear.

                      1. Bartowski
                        • 15 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        Stop showing off about your various service providers...

                      2. George Sillett
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        Don't try to divert away from the fact you were wrong. Pool attempt . 0/10

                      3. George Sillett
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        "Poor"

                      4. Bartowski
                        • 15 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        People are allowed to offer an opinion such as I did, go troll somebody else for your narcissistic supply.

                      5. King Carlos
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        This is the greatest debate in FFS history!

                      6. Bartowski
                        • 15 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        That's not saying much...

                      7. King Carlos
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        Yes it is.... 😉

                      8. George Sillett
                        • 10 Years
                        3 years, 23 days ago

                        Ooh bitchy.

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 23 days ago

          I mean just watch the various bits of footage. It clearly doesn't touch his knee. Not sure what you're trying to argue.

          1. Bartowski
            • 15 Years
            3 years, 23 days ago

            I have watched the video. It looks like it comes off his knee. And neither of us have watched the additional videos VAR has available to them.

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 23 days ago

              https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1624419598433935362

              You can see at the 1:58 Mark especially that the ball hit his arm and not his knee.

              Strange horse to sit yourself atop.

              1. Bartowski
                • 15 Years
                3 years, 23 days ago

                Not sitting on a horse, I just said it looks like it came off his knee, that's it. That video is still obscured at the precise moment we need it not to be.

            2. Twisted Saltergater
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              3 years, 23 days ago

              You haven’t seen the video from the camera behind the shot which BT Sport showed at full time.

      2. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        It could still be the knee.

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Knee jerk reaction

  10. Firminooooo
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Did the Martinelli to Saka move. Waiting for Saka penalty miss and Martinelli scoring the rebound.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      It is loading...

    2. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      I sold to ode

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      So Saka's getting an assist!

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        😀

    4. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Saka has been really good. Martinellu could do well but your transfer has logic so relax.

    5. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Don't curse my boy 🙁

    6. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Subscribe

  11. Shultan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Anyone sell both white & martinelli?
    I just sold Marti as it was for FT & didn't fancy triple city

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      White was an easy hold for me. Don't see any logic behind all the panic with him

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Hive mind influencers. One guy said it and they all without thinking went oh u might be right

  12. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    1,618 managers have already sold Martinelli, do they have a time machine?

  13. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    The West Ham goalkeeping coach was furious at Soucek for not gathering the ball.

  14. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Mudryk yet to impress. He clearly isn't the full package just yet and may take time to show his talent. His touches are too heavy and will need to improve his passes/final ball and link up play. He can either go Hazard's path or Dan James path and it looks like it is inclined to the latter.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 23 days ago

      Not pairing him up with Cucurella down that flank will help. Cucurella's passing/positioning has been gash.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 23 days ago

        Yeah he looks electric but some of his passes are atrocious. He definitely has the physical attributes to become world class but PL is tight defences and doesn't give you a breather. Would have been terrific in a team which utilizes counters.

  15. Hairy Potter
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    I wish they'd checked the West Ham goal last week for offside from the corner like they'd shocked the Spurs goal today.

  16. AC/DC AFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Fulham goal

  17. King Carlos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Toney post

  18. how now brown cow
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 23 days ago

    Estupinian goal

  19. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Anyone else have this ongoing battle with playing the best players for the week and just playing the players in the team you support? I’ve started just playing the players I support because I hate not having them on the bench when they haul.

    1. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      *having them on the bench