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The second and final Premier League match of the day sees champions Manchester City and Aston Villa go head-to-head at the Etihad Stadium.

The Citizens fell to a 1-0 defeat to Tottenham Hotspur last time out, while the visitors are also looking to bounce back from a loss, after going down 4-2 to Leicester City.

Kick-off is at 16:30 GMT.

Pep Guardiola makes four changes to his starting XI, as Ruben Dias, Aymeric Laporte, Kevin De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan replace Manuel Akanji, Nathan Ake, Rico Lewis and Julian Alvarez, all of whom drop to the bench.

They sit alongside Phil Foden, who was last in action for City four weeks ago.

As for Villa, they make just one alteration, with Calum Chambers coming in for Tyrone Mings, who has a “small injury”.

GAMEWEEK 23 LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Walker, Dias, Laporte, Rodri, Gundogan, Mahrez, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Grealish, Haaland

Subs: Ortega, Phillips, Ake, Alvarez, Gomez, Akanji, Foden, Palmer, Lewis

Aston Villa XI: Martinez, Young, Konsa, Chambers, Digne, Kamara, Luiz, Ramsey, Buendia, Bailey, Watkins

Subs: Sinisalo, Zych, Cash, McGinn, Moreno, Coutinho, Dendoncker, Swinkels, Duran

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  1. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Yair Rodríguez is a beast

    1. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      He was superb.

      Volkanowski was incredible last night too. What a fighter.

  2. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Haaland missing a couple would actually open the game up a bit?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Everyone will just bench him I guess

      1. gart888
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Those of us that bought for 11.5 can sell for 11.8. If he misses time and drops twice then you're only looking at losing 0.2 value.

        I think 1 or 2 games it's a bench, 3+ it's a sell.

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Maybe, he isn't a captaincy option in 25 and 27 anyway

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Would need to be a few weeks realistically and we'd have to know in advance. He got injured v Dortmund and missed a few / wasn't fully fit before the break but we never really knew due to Pep's obscure answers

    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Would make GW24 captaincy interesting

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Rashford (Lei H) vs Saka (Villa A)

        Fight!

        Rash for me, btw. My current vice for Haaland (C)

        Mahrez is tempting, but I can't guarantee a start

        1. Sun Jihai
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          Hard to go against Rashford in his current home form
          I'd really like a Chelsea attacker for this week given the fixture too

          1. Ze_Austin
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 22 days ago

            I don't have many reasons against Haaland to Felix if it's long-term, but Pep said it's just a kick

            Kicks usually mean pain that'll subside overnight anyway, so I'm waiting for further info from further medical assessment

  3. Haa-lala-land
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    I can see a lot of early KDB } Salah rage transfers this week

  4. Scalper
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Mahrez haul was very lucky. He took corners from KDB who usually takes those. Also took penalty from Haaland who is primary taker.

    - salty KDB owner

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Sure, but at his price, and as long as he keeps starting... he's a no brainer as your 2nd City player.

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        This

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Mahrez also missed a sitter so balances it out. He’s maybe just a better option than KDB right now?

  5. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Any update about Mings? Interested in him being available for GW25?

    1. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Just a knock according to Emery.

  6. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Keeping Rashford, Trippier & probably Shaw &Toney to play with 10 in 25.

    Got Botman, Ward & Beuno doubts,

    Any better move than Ward > Kepa or Botman > Tark or Pool

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Bueno probably still good for 2 points though. Not sure if it's worth the transfer to move him.

      Think your moves look good.

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Cheers

    2. mrelpea
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I like the Tark move, got a feeling the Newcastle CS thing is on it’s way out

  7. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Emery on Tyrone Mings' injury:
    "Hopefully in two or three days he is going to get better."

  8. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Might be reduced xMins for Lewis.

    Guardiola on attitude: "Especially in the way we are behaving in the training sessions in the last one week, 10 days. Kyle is back, not (just) in the performance but the way he is behaving. Many players."

    1. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I never learn with City. Had Foden for weeks. Finally got rid of him and bought Lewis this week. At least he's only 3.9.

      1. gart888
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Lewis is still a good player to own at 3.9 as long as he's not being subbed on. If it gets to a situation where he either starts or sits all game then I'd bring him in at that price.

        1. BeWater
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          This is why I went for him over Akanji and Ake. Can easily sit on the bench.

        2. Biggsy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          With two big blanks and a double that might be BB worthy, I'm not sure it's ideal. Let alone the fact that city don't seem to do clean sheets

  9. FPL Brains
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Give me a score check. I want to know how bad I've done. Relative to my main MLs it's average but I've burnt my TC.

    47, 6 doublers potentially to go.

    1. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      41 with 6 to go

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      45 with 4 doublers to go (no transfers or chips this week)

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      48 with 5 to play

    4. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      57, six to play no hits

    5. lugs
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      42 with 6, but hopefully 4 still to go, Odegaard(c) so praying for a Haaland and Lewis no show to get 12 jammy Shaw pts from the bench

      1. camarozz
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        53 (Rash capt )

        Ramsdale/Ode/Saka maybe Haaland to go

    6. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      59, 5 doublers to go (but Saka the only one that isn't a rotation risk)

    7. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      45 with 6 doublers. Andreas and shaw on bench is a sore one on a week like this

    8. FCHaalandaise
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      57 6 to go Inc Capt haaland (naturally), if he plays

    9. FPL Brains
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Yeah Shaw last on the bench and Haaland TC are the pain points for me.

    10. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Exactly same score here ( annoying 12 Shaw points on bench)

    11. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      60 but I’ve burnt my TC

      5 to go

    12. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      46 (-4, so 42) with 6 to play again including Haaland.

    13. Rhodes your boat
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      50 with 5 doublers left

    14. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      56 (-8) with 6 to go.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        51 (-4) with 7 to go.

  10. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Who is worse at stopping low shoots - Ederson or Forster?

    1. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Whoever you put up against Ederson, I'm going to say Ederson.

      I'm a long suffering owner.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Same here, went for him as nailed on City defender...

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Thought shot stopping was meant to be Forster's strength. He's poor at dealing with crosses.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        He had a good period, but the game against Leicester was just awful. Anyway, I hope he beat depression tho.

    3. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Big Forster should have saved one or two of those goals yesterday, IMO.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        For sure. He looked like a keeper from pes or fifa.

  11. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    UCL squad with unlimited transfers:

    Benzema Osimhen
    (C)Coman Vinicius J.Mario Kvaratskhelia Sane
    Cancelo R.James Grimaldo
    Mignolet

    D.Costa Haaland Carvajal Di Lorenzo

    Mostly picked based on domestic form and previous UCL performances

    Any obvious errors?

    1. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Oh lord, I forgot this

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Just about 48 hours to the deadline

        1. Dušan Citizen
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          Had a poor group stage, but I'm gonna win the knockout rounds!

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Cheers for reminder Austin. Haven't checked mine yet so can't give a good answer. Trans Euro Express on Talks port at 8 is usually good for a few form player pointers.

      https://talksport.com/radio/schedule/

      https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/UEFA+Champions+League

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Cheers 🙂

        The UCL game now has a "domestic form" feature, so it's simplified the process a bit for me

        I don't play it seriously enough to do a deep FPL-like dive into performances and stats, so it's just a nice laidback breather from FPL for me, like Eliteserien

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Damn I better click on that site again
      or
      Become a dead team

  12. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Really like Kilman next GW (BOU) - can really see an 8 or 9-pointer there, but thinking saving FT and playing Shaw (LEI) might bode well going into GW25. Thoughts...? 😀

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Save for sure

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Yeah. Fancy Leicester to score, but United to score 2 or 3...and Shaw could notch a wee assist..

    2. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      You mean like how we could all see the Newcastle backline having an assured CS this week?

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Save and play Shaw

      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        I actually fancied BOU to score. Was critiquing Scouts' double-up defence on them to my mate...

  13. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    What’s last man standing safety score?

  14. gart888
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    This is an easy roll this GW, right? (Assuming that there aren't any big developments over the next 5 days).

    Kepa
    Trippier Shaw White
    Mahrez Rashford Martinelli Saka
    Haaland(C) Kane Mitro

    Ward Andreas Bueno Cancelo.

    Plan is to transfer Cancelo to another defender next GW and bench Trippier, Shaw, Rashford. Then the following week go Martinelli and Mitro to Mitoma and Toney after their blanks.

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I'll be tempted by Cancelo to James now, but I do see lots of logic in starting Trippier and waiting for more info, so I agree with the plan

      Maybe Martinelli to Odegaard in GW26 (with the Mitro move), then Andreas to Mitoma in GW27

      1. gart888
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Good thoughts. Cheers.

  15. reo19uk
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Did Haaland come off injured or just for a rest?

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Bit of both I reckon.

    2. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Injury, but Pep doesn't seem too worried.

  16. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Ruben Dias was taken off at half-time vs Aston Villa due to his yellow card, and Pep Guardiola did not want him up against Ollie Watkins and Leon Bailey in the second-half with the possibility of a suspension vs Arsenal on Wednesday.

    Finally Ruben nailed on again. Can't believe Pep didn't play the best cb in the league when he was available.

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      To be fair he only came back recently, but he changes the whole team

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        I agree with you on that. His influence on City's attack might have quite the impact on my FPL decisions: I could end up selling Akanji sooner than previously planned, and keeping Mahrez through the blanks

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Seeking clarification here: is this based on a quote from somewhere, or just your assessment? I don't disagree with the assessment. Just clarifying

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Sorry for late response. It's Pep's quote.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          Thanks

    3. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Pep is a wierdo

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Given how long he has not played sounds like sensible decision to break him in for 45 minutes then rest for heavy schedule ahead.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        He must surely have been carrying niggles after that injury, or not fully recovered.

  17. Old Bull
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Is anyone considering a Liverpool defender for gw25?

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I am, but it's probably not worth it given you'll want to transfer them out soon after. We'll see how they look the next couple of games first.

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      There’s a real lack of decent defender options so taa def worth a look

    3. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Short answer? No

      Long answer? Noooooo no no nope not a chance no way nope no

    4. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      No

    5. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Probably TAA

  18. reo19uk
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Think I'm gonna have to free hit GW25 7 players without a game and now possibly Haaland!

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      2FT to get to 9 and everyone has Haaland so it's hardly like there are non-owners getting an advantage

  19. FCHaalandaise
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Akanji to

    A. Badiashile or B. Estupian

    I can field 11 for BGW25 either way

    1. Lucky Z
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      A if no Kepa, B if yes

      1. FCHaalandaise
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        No kepa
        Thanks

  20. Lucky Z
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    What do you think on Dawson an option for next GW and DGW25? Worth 0.5 over Kilman for goal threat?

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Kilman and save

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Dawson has a penchant for yellow cards I find so I prefer Kilman personally, he's good for baps too

  21. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Is Bueno not guaranteed to start now?

    Have Toney (cpl) , Andreas (bri) , Bueno (bou)

    Tempted to Bench boist

    1. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Wait for DGW 29/34/37 to BB

    2. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I wouldn't BB that even with Bueno nailed

  22. JAC THE CAT
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Who do I sell first Bueno or Lewis?

    Both are a huge concern for GW25 when I don’t have 11 players!

    1. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      I’m hoping Bruno will start next game after coming on at half time.

      1. Stamford B
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Bueno

  23. Rhodes your boat
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Which players do you plan to keep and bench for gw25?

    1. Stamford B
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Just Rashford

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        nice! Selling trippier?, who else are you moving out beforehand?

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Trippier, Botman, Rashford

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Happy with double newc defence moving forwards? I’ve got pope/trippier

        1. GreennRed
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          Wavering a bit. Will give Botman a few more games but considering Dalot after GW25.

          1. Rhodes your boat
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 22 days ago

            Dalot is a good shout yeah especially if moving shaw out

    3. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Shaw, Toney, Rashford, Trippier

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        I’m in a similar boat, probably will have a bench of pope rash trippier toney and selling shaw/bruno

    4. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Trippier, Mitoma, Rashford

      May hold one of Botman or Shaw (probably the latter) if I decided a FT and playing 10 is better spent upgrading Martinelli or Mitro

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Good plan, martinelli is a player I’d lose if I had a spare FT

        1. Biggsy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 22 days ago

          Yeah thinking about it. Will see how he does Wednesday. Will have to be for Odegaard unless I roll with only 9 / 2 Arsenal

    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      At moment have Rashford, Trippier and Shaw as my blankers
      But a weak bench in Bueno, Greenwood and Moreno (so little wiggle room for transfers)
      Really hope Bueno gets his spot back

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Similar here in hoping patterson is back from injury

  24. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Who to sell first

    KDB
    Mount

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Mount. He’s not even playing and deserved to be dropped

  25. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Why didn't Haaland take the pen?

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      Was already carrying the knock, but stayed on until half time

      Protecting one leg can put you at a disadvantage in the mental battle against a pen stopper like Martinez

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Ignore me. Click the link below. Didn't know about that quote

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 22 days ago

        Oh wow. That's massive

  26. Bobby
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    So does dias being back mean no more akanji?

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 22 days ago

      It should but since it’s Pep there’s no way of knowing.

  27. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Azpi >

    A) Badiashile (no Kepa)
    B) Tarkowski
    C) Kilman

  28. Jerse
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    I do listen to a few podcasts and I used to like Andy (aka slippers), but he really needs to do himself a favour and stop being so salty with some of the folk who post on his podcasts. When you do the job for a living like he does, he should try being less sarcastic and maybe grow up a few human years. Its not rocket science that when it comes to football and opinions there are many idiots out there, which goes with his territory.

    I would post this on his streams but do not have a you tube account.

  29. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 22 days ago

    Opening up UCL team
    Napoli still rolling?
    Avoid PSG v BAY?

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 21 days ago

      Triple Napoli all the way for me. Form team in Europe and tasty fixture.