Not true.

Incorrect. If you have any device in your home that is capable of showing live tv, you are legally required to have a tv licence. It’s ridiculous but there you have it.

To be fair, this is now ringing a bell.

No, stick to my guns, it's as I thought. You are wrong:

What is live TV and when do I need a licence for it?

Live TV means any programme you watch or record as it’s being shown on TV or live on any online TV service. It’s not just live events like sport, news and music. It covers all programmes on any channel, including soaps, series, documentaries and even movies.

If you’re watching live TV, you need to be covered by a TV Licence:

if you’re watching on TV or on an online TV service
for all channels, not just the BBC
if you record a programme and watch it later
if you watch a programme on a delay
to watch or record repeats
to watch or record programmes on +1, +2 and +24 channels
to watch live programmes on Red Button services
even if you already pay for cable, satellite or other TV services

In the UK
"To watch any live recording or broadcast, regardless of the country or language of origin, one needs a TV licence.
Additionally, a licence is also needed to watch any programmes on BBC or the on-demand service BBC iPlayer.
Despite the name, the TV licence covers a range of devices that are not necessarily televisions, such as gaming consoles, laptops and mobile devices.
This means regardless of the device, channel or platform, watching any form of live content needs a licence."

Watching.

Not owning, as Columbo has spuriously claimed.

Thanks, so the BBC don’t take any money from the TV licence … happy to be corrected here … certainly not arrogant enough to be corrected?

The money goes on the ouput!

That's the whole point, that's how it is funded.

We all pay (well those of us who watch). With the money we pay in, they make TV/radio etc that we watch and listen to.

Page one.

It’s a flat tax structure though.
It makes no allowance for means or the amount watched which is totally unjust. The opposite of social benefit

The licence fee accounted for 71% of BBC funding in 2021/22
Total BBC income in 2021/22 was £5.33 billion, 71% of which came from the licence fee revenues. The remaining 29% or £1.53 billion came from commercial and other activities (such as grants, royalties and rental income).

Maybe so. But the principle itself stands up.

Means-tested would be one possible development.

You didn't even now how the very basics worked a minute ago mate, you don't have much of a leg to stand on here.

Don’t think the % of the TV licence money BBC takes matches their output .. why do they get such a large piece of the pie.

Sorry, I can't continue this discussion with you.

The principle is just an idea. It’s being terribly executed.

You didn’t even know either … and there is nothing wrong with that, but you checked yourself which is fine … crazy concept here but when someone checks your view, your big enough to check it yourself and challenge yourself … might find you were right in the first place … but to assume your right no matter what is a sad state of affairs, being big enough to at least question yourself makes the world a better place .. so I assumed hey, maybe this guys right and I’m wrong … so shock, I had a little look to educate my self. Surely you don’t think someone should be nailed to spot and not allowed to think on it a bit?

Classic. Someone doesn’t agree with you, so you shut down. So much for freedom of opinions.

I did know. I told you all about it. I had a moment of self-doubt, as is pretty normal during such a contretemps. But indeed, I was correct. You were utterly wrong, and you shouted pretty loudly about that wrong. It's all on you, I'm afraid.

Well done for checking it out and moving forward, yes I always think that is a good thing and applaud it.

It’s not a competition lol … it’s a difference of opinion … you know, the things were allowed to have last time I checked. You think BBC getting 71% of TV licence money is a good/fair thing, personally, I don’t … but hey … thankfully we don’t all have to agree with one another.

Er... who do you think should get the licence money?

Not the BBC, certainly not 71% of it. Perhaps redistribution in to social care, NHS something like that.

Right... not sure you have grasped the basic model here.

Point is, I disagree with the current model.

There I go again, having my own opinion.

Or maybe use the money to get the internet available to all homes in the UK … something useful

That's not the BBC's remit. You're really mixed up here, mate, you seem to be conflating a number of things.

Oh dear. Accept that not everyone is aligned with your views on everything and be at peace with it. I’m happy your happy.

You've been all over the place on this one. Started off stating something that wasn't true, that was pointed out and you've changed the basis of your argument rather than acknowledge you were wrong. You've had a mare.

I was trying to be polite about it.