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Gameweek 4 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) comes to a conclusion this afternoon at the Etihad Stadium.

Manchester City v Manchester United gets underway at 16:30 BST.

TEAM NEWS

Pep Guardiola makes six changes to the side that lost 2-1 at Brighton and Hove Albion prior to the international break.

Gianluigi Donnarumma, Ruben Dias, Josko Gvardiol, Nico O’Reilly, Phil Foden and Jeremy Doku all come into the starting XI.

James Trafford, Matheus Nunes and Oscar Bobb drop to the bench, while John Stones, Rayan Ait-Nouri and Omar Marmoush miss out through injury.

As for United, there is a first Premier League start for Benjamin Sesko, who replaces the injured Matheus Cunha.

The other alterations see Noussair Mazraoui, Patrick Dorgu and Manuel Ugarte come in for Diogo Dalot, Casemiro and Mason Mount.

LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Donnarumma, Khusanov, Dias, Gvardiol, O’Reilly, Rodri, Bernardo, Reijnders, Foden, Doku, Haaland

Subs: Trafford, Ake, Nico, Savinho, Nunes, Bobb, Mukasa, Lewis, Mfuni

Manchester United XI: Bayindir, Yoro, de Ligt, Shaw, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Fernandes, Dorgu, Mbeumo, Amad, Sesko

Subs: Heaton, Lammens, Fredricson, Heaven, Leon, Maguire, Casemiro, Mainoo, Zirkzee


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  1. SamH123
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Sky commentator (Peter Drury) sounds much more excited when City have the ball than United

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Understandably so

  2. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Clean the camera lens

  3. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    I don't get Amad playing left 10

    1. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Amorim loves playing his players out of position.. this should’ve been the line up

      GK
      Amad Maz De Ligt Yoro Dorgu
      Casemiro Mainoo
      Mbeumo Bruno
      Sesko

      1. x.jim.x
        • 11 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        Three of your backline are out of position

        1. ☈☾
          • 8 Years
          10 months, 6 days ago

          Who three?

          1. x.jim.x
            • 11 Years
            10 months, 6 days ago

            Amad is a winger
            Mazraoui is a fullback
            Yoro plays on the right

            1. ☈☾
              • 8 Years
              10 months, 6 days ago

              Okay just Yoro but the other two can play in those positions

              1. x.jim.x
                • 11 Years
                10 months, 6 days ago

                You’ve just done exactly what Amorim does, sticks players out of position cos they “can” play there

                1. ☈☾
                  • 8 Years
                  10 months, 6 days ago

                  Can’t help it when the whole squad needed surgery

                  1. x.jim.x
                    • 11 Years
                    10 months, 6 days ago

                    Should have bought some players then shouldn’t he

      2. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        Just switch Maz and Yoro

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      yea, zirkzee looked useful there against burnley

  4. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    City too slow moving ball fwd.

  5. jacob1989
    • 4 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Salah does nothing, keeps hauling. Haaland looks ok but will blank. Irony of fpl

  6. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Reilly cut out ball meant for Haaland

    1. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      That had a good chance written all over it.

    2. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Yep should of let that run

  7. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Moron O’Reilly intercepts Reijnders through pass to Haaland and fires it wide 😡

  8. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Just hope Haaland also gets as lucky as Salah

    1. HadiSLIM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Salah didnt get lucky. it was standard practice...

  9. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    That footwork from Doku in the build up for the goal was incredible. Left Shaw for dead

  10. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    What to do with Brennan Johnson?

    a) Keep for bha, WOL, lee

    b) Sideways > Xavi/Schade

    c) Downgrade > Grealish/Enzo/Ndiaye/Caicedo/Mitoma

    1. WiredWeasel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Got the same problem myself but no solution I’m afraid.

  11. Do I Not Like Orange
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Crap watch as a Haaland captainer. Need a United goal to compel City to attack.

    1. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      True, but they haven't really tested Bananarama yet.

    2. Mr. O'Connell
      • 14 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Just accept the 2 points (at best) fate of your captain and move on

    3. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Having both Haaland and Salah(c) on FH, I actually hope he blanks

  12. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Probably best striker in the game & the idiots around him don’t supply any balls to him?

  13. Kaneyonero
    • 9 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Boring

  14. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Arsenal vs City prediction next week?

    1. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      When two good teams play you've got to expect the dreaded 1-1 draw.

    2. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      If for betting it is easy 0/1-0/1.

    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      3-0

    4. _Freddo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Won’t be 5-1 like last year but Arsenal will win.

    5. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      1-1

    6. villa_til_i_die
      • 14 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      1-0

  15. jeffa79
    • 12 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Correct order of selection for the following?

    Schade
    Sarr (P)
    KDH

    1. ball c
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Correct

  16. Mr. O'Connell
    • 14 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Remember Reijnders?

    1. All Hail K
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Transfer him out of your squad and he'll remind you next week.

    2. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Yeah he's had a SOT today and created a chance

  17. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Non Salah owners are very fortunate that Mo is getting only 1 bp after scoring the winning goal and a stellar performance.

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      He is dog meat

  18. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    It’s criminal not to play Casemiro and Mainoo in the pivot

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Criminal to play Casemiro more like

      1. ☈☾
        • 8 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        He’s the best of the bunch

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 months, 6 days ago

          Just played for Brazil. Loads of the Brazilian PL players have been rested or reduced mins

    2. Moon Dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      10 months, 6 days ago

      I thought Ugarte did well

      Amad pressing well from the front

    3. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Yup, should be them with Bruno ahead on the ten.

  19. _Freddo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    81 on the FH, fairly happy with that, real team is having a bit of a stinker.

    1. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Used the chip right then

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        Yep

      2. _Freddo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        One of the score apps says it’s a net point of 40, can’t be bothered to work it out yet but had Gudmusnen OG, Petrovic, Watkins all starting so know it’ll be bad.

        1. _Freddo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          10 months, 6 days ago

          Oh plus Mbuemo, Reijnders & Haaland in this.

  20. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    W@nk3r of the Week has to go to Hannibal. Imagine not having the presence of mind to stand and face the ball rather than doing a jump and spin backwards so he has no clue of his orientation. Low IQ player has ruined all the hard work Burnley did today.

    1. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Really really poor from him. He won't sleep tonight

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        It will be eating him alive

        1. Benedict_Alexander_Arnold
          • 1 Year
          10 months, 6 days ago

          A la Dahmer

  21. Kane Train
    • 11 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Best option for gw5?

    A) Tavernier > Caicedo
    B) Tavernier > E.Anderson
    C) Save FT

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      A

  22. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Ranked 107k. Best start to a season in ages.
    - 1st BB & WC burned.

    1. MJF
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Good work, how many pts required for that rank?

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        10 months, 6 days ago

        Cheers. 263 total atm

    2. villa_til_i_die
      • 14 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Great stuff!

  23. MJF
    10 months, 6 days ago

    I always wonder whether the international break sucks the life out of the following domestic league fixtures. Just as the momentum is getting go in a season, we get these boring two week breaks followed, it often seems, by a damb squib of PL action.

    1. Sting
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      yep better to have a proper segment of the season and then a 3-4 week block for internationals before reverting to the league.

      these regular disruptions and travel, with shorter preseasons just mean more games where players are undercooked

    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      Agreed, it’s brutal. Especially when so many of the fixtures are utter garbage and one sided affairs. Depressing knowing we have them again in October and November.

      1. MJF
        10 months, 6 days ago

        Yeah, and with the greed of UEFA and FIFA the domestic calendar will continue to be diminished in the future.

  24. MJF
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Haaland is gonna get defcons at this rate.

    1. WiredWeasel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      I was thinking the same thing (as well as many others from the comments it seems). Can any player get DefCons?

  25. Utopsis
    • 6 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Haaland ranking up the DC points!

  26. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Haaland with about 4 defcons in 30seconds

  27. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Mazaroui and Boomo look like twins. Don’t know which one is who!

  28. F4L
    • 11 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    haaland defcon farming

  29. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Haaland in for defcons?

  30. Moon Dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    10 months, 6 days ago

    Mazraoui cosplaying as Mbeumo is so confusing

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 months, 6 days ago

      It’s to confuse the opponent 😆