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Gameweek 4 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) comes to a conclusion this afternoon at the Etihad Stadium.

Manchester City v Manchester United gets underway at 16:30 BST.

TEAM NEWS

Pep Guardiola makes six changes to the side that lost 2-1 at Brighton and Hove Albion prior to the international break.

Gianluigi Donnarumma, Ruben Dias, Josko Gvardiol, Nico O’Reilly, Phil Foden and Jeremy Doku all come into the starting XI.

James Trafford, Matheus Nunes and Oscar Bobb drop to the bench, while John Stones, Rayan Ait-Nouri and Omar Marmoush miss out through injury.

As for United, there is a first Premier League start for Benjamin Sesko, who replaces the injured Matheus Cunha.

The other alterations see Noussair Mazraoui, Patrick Dorgu and Manuel Ugarte come in for Diogo Dalot, Casemiro and Mason Mount.

LINE-UPS

Manchester City XI: Donnarumma, Khusanov, Dias, Gvardiol, O’Reilly, Rodri, Bernardo, Reijnders, Foden, Doku, Haaland

Subs: Trafford, Ake, Nico, Savinho, Nunes, Bobb, Mukasa, Lewis, Mfuni

Manchester United XI: Bayindir, Yoro, de Ligt, Shaw, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Fernandes, Dorgu, Mbeumo, Amad, Sesko

Subs: Heaton, Lammens, Fredricson, Heaven, Leon, Maguire, Casemiro, Mainoo, Zirkzee


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  1. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Robot needs charging

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Good. Come gw6 and I will TC him. We Salah owners have basically been lucky. There is 50/50 for Salah to improve, but if Palmer has found his shooting boots, Salah to Palmer has to be worth it.

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Get both

      2. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Want to see Palmer one whole game before getting

  2. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Great game from Haaland

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Especially in the second half, he was everywhere

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      His form is building up now

      1. g40steve
        • 8 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Shhhh

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Lol

  3. F4L
    • 11 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    even with the fixtures, would you consider Watkins + Salah ➡ Haaland and Palmer for free this GW

    1. Cold Palms
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Defo

    2. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      If the funds are light do it early
      Otherwise best to wait after midweek fixtures .

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        got .3 left over as it stands. will wait

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          *as in 0.3 left itb after the proposed transfers

    3. MBK 42
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Think Salah scores well v Everton

    4. F4L
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      thanks all

  4. Pedersen
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Haaland clean sheet locked

  5. Thanos
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Massive success on FH. So glad to have played it!

  6. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    started Mbuemo over Porro, feel a little unlucky not to get a return from him

  7. The Big Fella
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Any Chelsea fans? I am debating selling Cucurella as I think 6m for a defender who may be rotated is not worth it. How often do we think he will be given reduced minutes/rotated? If it is a one-off I may consider keeping.

    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Played 180 minutes for Spain then CL midweek. Necessary rotation imo, but still first choice

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Good point, thanks. Might sell for Chalobah still. I am debating my WC and I want both Haaland and Salah in the team.

  8. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Nico O’Reilly should be a starter every week. If he was playing regularly he’d be in the England squad

  9. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    79 all pit

    VDV 14 pointer stuck on my bench is a sickener.

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      *out

    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      84 here
      Romero last on my bench

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Only 74, had a 1.3m red until captain came calling gone from 1.6 to 1.1 greens continue.

    4. keefy59
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Similar 80 points with VDV benched .
      I started Vicario & never like double defence or with keeper .
      O the plus side VDV should go up in price .

    5. Snoopydog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 2 days ago

      87 - first good week in a while. Haaland (c), Salah, Semenyo, VdV helped.

  10. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Bring in Nuno

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Good shout, make United difficult to beat first and foremost and build from there.

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        I’d actually get slightly optimistic of a top 10 finish with him and build from there

        1. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 12 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          They need to breed a winning habit again and just doing the basics right and get away from these managers that are obsessed with a system that either doesn’t work has has no flexibility.

          1. FPL Blow-In
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 months, 2 days ago

            Amorim shoehorned himself into this position of it being able to change system. Like Ange with his all out attack. It’s a real pity because that Utd team should do much better than they are

            1. FPL Blow-In
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 months, 2 days ago

              You watch Burnley playing today against Liverpool, Sunderland at Palace, the managers just play to the players strengths.

  11. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Reijnders to Caicedo bandwagon

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Nah on another day he’s 16 points

      1. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        But he’ll never get defcon

  12. Capocannonieri
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    PK goals should only count as 1 point

    The dude that wins the PK should get 5 points.

    Salah and Bruno are horrific parasites

  13. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Sir Jim Radcliffe contemplating which tea lady needs to feel the brunt from this derby defeat.

  14. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    GTG for next GW?

    Sanchez

    VdV Konsa Williams Senesi
    Salah Semenyo Bruno Anderson
    Haaland Pedro

    Gab KDH Esteve Guiu

  15. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Predict Amorim's excuse this time ...

    1. Pumpkinhead
      • 11 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      What is most confusing for me is they hired a manager who plays 3-4-3 with a squad that doesn’t. Then in his first major transfer window they purchased players who don’t play in a 3-4-3 yet the club continues to back him. He never really had it at United but they didn’t set him up for success either.

  16. WVA
    • 9 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Watkins to Haaland worth a hit? Could be priced out this week! Watkins dropping tonight and Haaland will rise this week at least once

    1. A Moon Shaped Pool
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      My guy. Its 132am here in Malaysia and you know I have to login just to reply to your comment. DITCH WATKINS AND GO FOR HAALAND. What are you waiting for my guy ffs

    2. Snoopydog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Yes. Took a hit to bring him in this week and paid off.

  17. The-Red-1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Beyond comprehension why Lammens hasn't started.

    What's the point of buying him?

  18. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    84 all out
    Who needs Salah 🙂

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      85 all out. Who needs Haaland

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Touché

    2. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      83 for me.

      That Reijnders miss cost me at least 11, plus I benched Porro while my whole midfield except Semenyo blanked and I got the Cucu 1 pointer. But if luck could have had 100.

  19. They are eating the dogs
    • 3 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    This was probably the last Bruno's chance. Sorry, Andy

  20. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Can Mark magic up an extra bp for Salah?

  21. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    Dorgu has been dreadful

  22. F4L
    • 11 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    reijnders' desire at the end of matches to still get involved in attacks is great though. saw the same vs wolves

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      He’s a certain hold. People expect constant points from players at 6-7m and it’s mad. If you watch the games, he always has chances

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        yeah, shame that chance went curling just wide. pep consistently keeps him on as well, must like him alot

      2. MBK 42
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        Yes he was very involved today - happy to hold for now

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      I guess Kudus is a sell before Reijndeers.

  23. dansmusen
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    This game is so much luck. Got Gudmundsson from the bench for Saliba just to score a freak OG in last seconds and Salah getting stupid penalty in the last seconds aswell saving all my ML rivals (I have Haaland C)

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Haaland wasn’t lucky to get 2 goals, he was unlucky not to get 1-2 more goals

  24. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    I swear Foden looks younger every new season

    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      It’s cause his haircuts are getting less dodgy. Same thing with Gordon who used to look like a WW1 solider.

      1. Mario Balofail
        • 11 Years
        7 months, 2 days ago

        This is actually accurate

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          lol yeah it’s a fair take

  25. Kodap
    • 8 Years
    7 months, 2 days ago

    With 1.8m in the bank, what changes would you look at here?

    Sanchez
    Cucu - Gabriel - Munoz
    Semenyo - Kudus - Reijnders - Gakpo
    Wood - Joao Pedro - Haaland

    Dubravka - Grealish - Van de Berg - Gudmondsson

    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Hah, we have almost the same team including the 1.8m

      I’m considering Cucu to Virgil

  26. Moon Dog
      7 months, 2 days ago

      Disappointed Mbeumo didn't get anything 🙁

      1. Moon Dog
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Leading the xGI charts for midfielders now though. How many points does that get me? 😆

        • JT11fc
          • 7 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Same, matter of time surely

          1. Moon Dog
              7 months, 2 days ago

              Surely

        • Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Having KDH and Reijnders starting every week is not sustainable. I've learnt this now. Salah needs to go.

        • RamaJama
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Watkinsto Gyokeres best move here?

          Would you WC this team?

          Dubravka
          Williams VdV Cucurella
          Salah Semenyo Dango Kudos Rejinders
          Haaland Watkins

          Subs Verbruggen Guiu Diof Esteve

          1. Feanor
            • 16 Years
            7 months, 2 days ago

            Nah, if you’ve had Salah this long you may as well stick

            Watkins is going to be sold in droves so get rid

            1. RamaJama
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 months, 2 days ago

              Cheers, keeping Salah for Everton, he’ll probably be handed a pen in the 93rd minute again 😉

              Would you get JP or Gyokeres?

              Salah willl become Pslmer GW 6 if no WC by then

        • Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          Save FT?

          Petrovic
          Munoz | Andersen | Spence
          Salah | Palmer | Semenyo | Anderson | KDH
          Haaland | Joao Pedro

          Dubravka | Gundmundsson | Esteve | El Kroupi

          Thanks

        • Slurpy
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 2 days ago

          88 all out. That Haaland haul has cheered me up slightly as a non Salah owning Burnley fan