Season Review

The Promoted – Watford

Having cast an eye over Championship winners Bournemouth and play-off victors Nowich City, we end our analysis of the three promoted sides by turning our attentions to Watford.

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total46278119150+418915
Home2314454822+26467
Away2313464328+15438

CS = Clean sheets

The Hornets return to the Premier League after an eight-year absence, finishing a single point behind Bournemouth after failing to win their final home match of the season against Sheffield Wednesday.

Despite a tumultuous start to the campaign, Watford were third in the table when Slavisa Jokanovic took charge in October. The Serbian endured a tricky start, winning just two of his first eight fixtures (including a four-match losing streak in November), but turned things around pretty quickly thanks in large part to his side’s away form. Watford averaged 2.1 goals per match on their travels under Jokanovic’s stewardship, and by the end of the season had picked up 43 of their 89 points away from home.

Jokanovic’s men were the second highest scorers in the league, scoring 91 times, and were reasonably solid at the back, keeping 15 clean sheets. They ended the season with ten wins and three draws from their final 14 matches to clinch a place in next season’s Premier League.

The Manager

Jokanovic left the club after his contract expired and Watford are now set for their fifth manager in the last 12 months, following the appointment of Quique Sanchez Flores on a two-year deal. The 50-year-old boasts a wealth of managerial experience, having taken charge of top teams in Spain, Portugal and the United Arab Emirates.

Flores finished his successful playing career in 1997, having amassed 15 caps for Spain and played for Valencia, Real Madrid and Zaragoza, Handed his first coaching role in 2001, he was placed in charge of Real Madrid’s youth teams. In 2004, he took his first managerial job, guiding Getafe to a 13th place finish in La Liga, which prompted Valencia to appoint him as their new manager ahead of the 2005/06 season. In his two years in charge at the Mestalla, Flores guided his side to third and fourth place finishes, but was sacked after a poor start to the 2007/08 campaign.

The Spaniard spent the 2008/09 season with Benfica, helping the Portuguese side to a League Cup triumph, although a disappointing third place finish would see his time in Portugal come to an end. Flores then spent the best part of two seasons at Atletico Madrid, winning the Europa League in 2010, before spending three years in the United Arab Emirates. He returned to Spain earlier this year, taking over at former club Getafe, although he lasted less than two months at the club, resigning for alleged personal reasons.

Flores will work alongside assistants Alberto Diaz and Antonio Carlavilla at Vicarage Road, while Dean Austin will remain in the coaching structure. The Spaniard has been compared to his compatriot Rafael Benitez, with his ability to get the maximum from the players at his disposal seen as one of his major strengths.

In terms of tactics, Flores tends to operate with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 system. Throughout his career, he has favoured a pair of holding midfielders in front of the back-four and hits opponents on the counter. As the new Hornets boss explained during his time at Atletico, his approach allows his teams to be adaptable:

“..we’re going to adjust the system to the players that we have. You need energy, understanding and competitiveness in any system, and you have to go all out”.

The Promoted Squad

In addition to having four different managers by the time October arrived, there were plenty of changes to the playing squad last season. Heurelho Gomes, Juan Carlos Paredes and Craig Cathcart – all first-team regulars – among those who were brought in. Paredes was signed from Granada, one of the two other clubs (along with Udinese) also owned by the Pozzo family, who are in charge at Watford. Miguel Layun also joined from the Spanish side in the January transfer window. Forward Odion Ighalo was signed from the Italian side in October, while Ben Watson came in from Wigan in January, and was later joined by Adlene Guedioura, who arrived on loan from Crystal Palace.

Flores’ assessment will be keenly anticipated over the summer friendlies as we look for signs of the new manager’s approach. Last season, Jokanovic proved adaptable, often switching between 3-5-2 and 4-3-1-2 formations, although he also occasionally utilised 4-3-2-1 and 4-3-3 systems. With three forwards who scored over 15 league goals last season in Troy Deeney, Odion Ighalo and Matej Vydra, it’s no surprise that he tried to play with two strikers for much of the campaign.

Here’s the Hornets’ main men from last season’s successful campaign.

Heurelho Gomes (44 starts) – the former Tottenham keeper joined the Hornets last summer in search of first-team football, and duly played a significant role in the club’s promotion. The 34-year-old’s experience was invaluable among a youthful squad, and the Brazilian international has recently penned a new three-year contract. It remains to be seen whether Gomes will hold onto the number one jersey, though, after Watford signed Steaua Bucharest Giedrius Arlauskis stopper over the last fortnight.

Juan Carlos Paredes (32 starts, 7 sub apps. 4 assists) – Watford’s preferred right-back/right wing-back during the campaign and has been named in Ecuador’s final 23-man squad for this summer’s Copa America. Has good pace and likes to get forward, but can struggle going the other way.

Gabriele Angella (32 starts, 3 sub apps. 2 goals, 4 assists) – the Italian was the first choice centre-back for the majority of the season, and is a threat from set pieces, having scored nine goals in his two seasons at Vicarage Road.

Craig Cathcart (28 starts, 1 sub app. 3 goals, 2 assists) – a strong centre-back who has previous Premier League experience from his time at Blackpool. The Northern Ireland international was a regular starter under Jokanovic, though the summer arrival of Sebastian Prodl from Werder Bremen places heightens the competition in the heart of defence.

Joel Ekstrand (23 starts, 1 sub app. 1 goal, 1 assist) – the centre-half was a key part of the Watford rearguard, but suffered a serious knee injury in March and is likely to be out for the rest of 2015.

Tommy Hoban (20 starts, 7 sub apps, one assist) – far from a regular starter, Hoban did fill in well when injuries took their toll. Versatile enough to cover at centre-half and left-back but is unlikely to make as many appearances next season.

Daniel Pudil (19 starts, 4 sub apps. 1 assist) – played as a left-back and wing-back, but was largely a squad player and expected to feature even less next time around.

Ikechi Anya (27 starts, 8 sub apps. 7 assists) – the Scotland international can play in a variety of roles, including as an advanced midfielder, but was predominantly used as a wing-back by Jokanovic. His ability to play both sides meant he was less prone to rotation than others, and with his pace and trickery, can create chances from either flank.

Daniel Tozser (34 starts, 11 sub apps. 5 goals, 5 assists) – all five of the Hungarian international’s goals came from free-kicks, but having been a regular starter during the first half of the season as a deep-lying playmaker, Tozser often found himself among the substitutes following the arrivals of Watson and Guedioura.

Miguel Layun (14 starts, 3 sub apps. 1 assist) – another player capable of playing in more than one position, the Mexico international featured in defence and midfield, but offered little output to gain our attentions.

Gianni Munari (21 starts, 7 sub apps. 3 goals, 4 assists) – defensive midfielder who played an important role during the first half of the season, but, like Tozser, struggled for playing time following the arrivals of Watson and Guedioura.

Ben Watson (19 starts, 1 app. 2 assists) – signed from Wigan in January and was a regular starter during the run-in. The midfielder has significant Premier League experience from his time with the Latics.

Adlene Guedioura (13 starts, 4 sub apps. 3 goals, 4 assists) – the Algerian international was one of Watford’s form players during the final few months of the season, having re-joined the club for a second loan spell during the promotion winning campaign. A strong passer and took some of the set-piece duties.

Almen Abdi (28 starts, 4 sub apps. 9 goals, 2 assists) – suffered with shoulder and foot injuries during the campaign, but provides great quality as a goalscoring playmaker. Providing he can stay fit, Abdi looks to have the quality to shine at the highest level and warrant some attention as a Fantasy asset next term.

Matej Vydra (31 starts, 11 sub apps. 16 goals, 5 assists) – failed to make an impact in the Premier League with West Brom, but the pacey forward has continued to thrive in the Championship and should do better in the top-flight this time around. Has signed a further two-year loan deal over the summer.

Odion Ighalo (22 starts, 13 sub apps. 20 goals, 3 assists) – came into the side when Vydra and Deeney were struggling for goals and duly filled the void, scoring 14 goals in ten appearances in the middle part of the season.

Troy Deeney (37 starts, 5 sub apps. 21 goals, 9 assists) – named club captain prior to the promotion-winning campaign, Deeney is the focal point for the Hornets, providing strength up front, although he also has clever movement and is a good finisher. Deeney the primary penalty taker, although Vydra and Ighalo have also taken them while he has been on the pitch. Could follow in the footsteps of Charlie Austin, Leonardo Ulloa and Danny Ings as a promoted forward offering value.

Fernando Forestieri (10 starts, 14 sub apps. 5 goals, 4 assists) – used primarily off the bench, likes to run at defenders and has an eye for goal. Seems unlikely to get much of a look in next season.

Potential Targets

As mentioned above, Watford have been quick to add to their ranks already, bringing in Arlauskis and Prodl at the back, in addition to re-acquiring Vydra up front. Certainly, we can expect another busy summer as Flores takes time to assess his new squad and there could well be further acquisitons from Udinese and Grenada by the time the transfer window closes on September 1. Indeed, Udinese left-back Ali Adnan – dubbed the Iraqi Gareth Bale – has been linked with a loan move.

Captain Troy Deeney had his say on how the club would look to approach the forthcoming transfer window:

“Speaking to the owner I feel they will be bringing in some lads with Premier League experience. It is not going to be a case like Burnley’s, where they have said ‘we are going to stick with you lot [who secured promotion]’. Sentiment won’t be held by our owner. He is very much ‘you are in the Prem now so get the job done’. I think there will probably be four or five lads coming in with Premier League experience and then there are people like myself who are absolutely buzzing to be there [for the first time].”

The playing squad will need strengthening in most areas, though it’s already clear the priority is defence. Watford have been linked with Burnley right-back Kieran Trippier following the Clarets’ relegation, although Southampton and Bournemouth are also thought to be interested in the 24-year-old.

Adrian Mariappa is another reported target. The 28-year-old Crystal Palace defender has struggled for pitch time under Alan Pardew and could welcome a return to Vicarage Road in a search for first-team football. Sassuolo wing-back Sime Vrsaljko is rumoured to be attracting interest and, having made 20 appearances for the Serie A side in 2014/15, the Croatia international could add some quality to the squad. With Ikechi Anya being strongly linked with a £4 million move to Celtic, reinforcements will certainly be needed, should he make the move to the Scottish champions.

Out-of-contract Reading midfielder Jem Karacan is another who has been mentioned as a possible target for Watford, although like with Tripper, Watford could have to battle with fellow Premier League new boys Bournemouth for his signature. Elsewhere in the centre of the park, the Hornets are reportedly interested in Tottenham’s out-of-favour midfielder, Benjamin Stambouli. Further forward, Montpellier winger Anthony Mounier is also thought to be a target.

It certainly seems as though Watford could take a slightly different approach to Bournemouth in their summer recruitment, with a willingness to search for bargains on the continent alongside the need to bring in players with Premier League experience. Flores will hope that balance will aid his side’s bid to beat the drop as the Hornets look to survive more than one season in the top-flight, something they have failed to do on the last two occasions they have gained promotion.

*Many thanks to site moderator and Watford fan Applebonkers for his input with the research of this article.

1,079 Comments Post a Comment
  1. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Has anyone heard anything about withdrawal problems relating to Mondogoal's £30,000 Championship?

    1. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      The last withdrawal problem I had resulted in me becoming the father of twin boys.

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Boom boom

  2. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Ice lolly time 😎

    1. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Feast?

    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Just need to sell Ade and Soldado now.....

      Hoping Kane stays

    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Never seen him. Is he actually good?

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Never seen him play myself but write up is good....

        Time will tell whether he is the next Henry or last seasons Lamela I suppose

  3. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    That time of the season again and it goes on for another 6 weeks. ie the price guessing and team structure debates. Been having them on forums or with mates for 10 years on FPL!
    Anyway, so I am with the "must have players irrespective of price" brigade eg Ivanovic (£7.5m??), Hazard (£12.5m??), Kun etc etc but that means we have to build in 6 to 8 real bargains. Who are you looking to get into your team in this space? For me its....

    Goalies - both cheap
    Defenders - 3 cheap
    Midfield - got to be 2 cheap - 4th and 5th mid.
    Attack - one cheap

    I think the big debate is in the 4th mid space. I think you have to go cheap there to real afford the marque players.

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Cheap keepers (maybe Ruddy @ 4.5)
      Cheap defenders (most expensive will be Lescott/Dawson, until I see 99% of teams with Ivanovic in)
      Cheap 5th mid and a reliable 4th mid.
      The rest of my midfielders and strikers will be expensive.

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Indeed. Its the ownership issue that is going to be the decider. If you go against Ivanovic say and he scores and gets a clean sheet in GW 1 you are already 10+ points and a free transfer behind as you play catch up. Not an issue if ownership is low though.

    2. Doolittle
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'll have a similar structure to last season, but I think I'll spend more in defence this time. I always go cheap, and it results in me wasting transfers trying to sort the inevitable mess. I'm looking at something like:

      Ivan 5.0-5.5 4.5 4.5 4

      May even look at both Ivan and Koscielny, but fear that may be too expensive.

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Its the risk I take each season too on £4m defenders who then never start or play for the first game or two and then get dropped. Its probably worth going to £4.5m if they are guaranteed BUT that extra £1m overall can make such a difference.

        1. Doolittle
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I'll inevitably see all the big hitting attackers and end up with a ridiculous uber-cheap defence, but my plan is to spend a bit more. Last season I had players like Caulker and Bruce, and it was just never going to work. It meant having no flexibility as all my money was tied up in attackers, and I had to WC early on. I want to avoid that this year.

      2. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'm looking at a similar priced back line Doolittle. 🙂

        1. Doolittle
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Good company then! When I rationalise the team structure, that backline is what makes sense to me. My problem is going to be when I actually build my team, and I see Hazard, Sanchez, Fabregas, Costa and Aguero all staring at me.

          It's going to be hard to convince myself that the sensible move is to forego one or two of those so I can afford Gareth McAuley.

    3. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I think it's going to be tricky this year. Austin and Kane last year made it easier to have 4 good midfielders but I can't see two bargains like that up top again.

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I might go for 3 mids in the Milner/Mane price range plus an Uber and then one big hitter. by doing that though you are chosing between say Hazard and Sanchez. That might be easier if say Walcott or Ramsey have a decent price point as alternatives.

        1. Hooky
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          It's going to be tricky to set up at the start if Kun and Sanchez are rested for the first week or two. Ideally I'm going to want Kun, Sanchez and Hazard for the majority of the season so am going to pray for some bargains like late transfers between Premier League clubs after the prices are released.

    4. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Its going to be difficult. Even if you go for Deeney and Ritchie as a cheap third forward and fourth midfielder, Ivanovic, Hazard and Aguero are hard to squeeze in. I think you pick two of the three. Otherwise you'll struggle to afford a decent set of attacking players, unless you go for the minimum possible spend on the bench, with something like this:

      4.5 (4.0)
      Ivanovic (7.5)/5.0/4.5 (4.0/4.0)
      Hazard (12.0)/9.0/7.5/Ritchie (5.5) (4.5)
      Aguero (13.0)/9.0/Deeney (6.0)

      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yep that brings things into perspective! The money to save is in the £9m striker and maybe go for 2 cheapies up front and only go for Costa or Kun type big hitters.

        The other thing I find useful is plotting who you will captain for the first 6 or so games and that can sometimes allow the decision on who to not get that much easier.

        1. bitm2007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          That's the way i'm thinking

          4.5, 4.5
          7.0, 4.5, 4,5, 4.5, 4.0
          12.0, 9.0, 8.0, 7.0, 4.5
          13.0, 6.5, 6.5

          GK's and four of the defender will be rotatining pairs, the key if finding another Kane and Austin this year.

    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It's very funny, but Christ it shows how bad Cabinteely are as well. 😛

      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        They look like cricketers!

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          *Wasters 😉

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What the hell. I take more than that.

    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      That takes fail to a whole new level 😆

    3. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCjeD-Jqd2s

      0.54s in: "Blatter is apparently good at finding money"

  4. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Hard luck United, Arsenal and Pool supporters.

    AFC Wimbledon ✔@AFCWimbledon
    BREAKING: @daRealAkinfenwa has turned down late interest from elsewhere to stay with Dons:

  5. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    According to Metacritic - the BEST review this film has had says:

    "Even without the current headlines, United Passions is a disgrace. It’s less a movie than preposterous self-hagiography, more appropriate for Scientology or the Rev Sun Myung Moon. As cinema it is excrement. As proof of corporate insanity it is a valuable case study."

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      RF to 2 above

    2. The Captain and Doneil
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      "not merely ham-fisted, but pork-shouldered, bacon-wristed, and sausage-elbowed" 😀

  6. top of the flops
    internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Top 10 flops last season:
    1. Lovren
    2. Mario Balotelli
    3. ADM
    4. Cuadrado
    5. Falcao
    6. Shaw
    7. Kramaric
    8. Bony
    9. De Jong
    10. Ince

    Special mentions go to Fernando, B.Davies, Hernandez, Cabella

    i've probably forgotten loads, but from this list, De Jong might improve ( if he stays fit and that's a big IF), Kramaric( potential is there), and Shaw

    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      if you're going to list De Jong you may as well list Snodgrass. It was neither of their faults that they were injured all season

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        De Jong is notoriously injury prone, hence why Newcastle were able to sign him, and sign him at a relatively low fee given his talent

        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I know, I'd watched him the past 4 years. He was actually pretty poor when he wasn't injured the season before last, and many were glad that he left when he did.

    2. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Kramaric wasn't a flop, he looked good whenever he played (which wasn't much). Also if this is supposed to be in order Falcao has to be top

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        club record transfer wasnt he? He only started 6 games and only 2 did he last the 90 mins. He played a total of 77 mins in Leicesters last 540 mins of football

        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Only 23. I agree he didn't play much, but that was more down to Pearson trusting the likes of Nugent and Vardy, who he's managed for years, than due to Kramaric lacking talent I think. Like you say he could have a good season next year

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        it 's just my opinion but I think Falcao could have done better than he did, for which I point the finger at VG

        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          disagree, I think he was as good as washed up at the top level when he signed.

          Btw, I'd add Riviere to the top of the list

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            oh yea, Riviere is a good one, Terrible terrible footballer

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Riviere is a great one, I agree.

              BTW, Roscola posted this

              https://thebubblegame.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/falca-oh/

              Might change your opinion on Falcao, certainly has mine. I wanted him to get another season, glad he didn't now.

              1. Give The Todd Some Love
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Wow, he really called it

                1. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  100%

                  Actually shocked I let the wool be pulled over my eyes, I really had not noticed it at all. Well manufactured by his agent, no doubt.

                  1. internal error
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    The best game I saw Falcao this season was against Everton. He looked like his sharpness was coming back and he scored a goal. Injury and VG were the reasons he didn't kick on IMO I do think he can do better at somewhere like Chelsea

                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I agree that was the best one I saw him in as well.

                      But, as that blog post shows, he has been a striker on the wane for 4 years or so. He can do better, I would agree there as well, but I fear the days of El Tigre are long gone.

    3. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Harsh that ADM is considered 3rd to be honest.

      Also harsh on De Jong.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Record transfer fee comes with very very high expectations. Started brilliantly but ended the season very poorly

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          And I accept high expectations, but 3 goals and 11 assists from 1650 minutes of PL in his first season is harsh to claim he flopped, especially one of the biggest flops. Disappointing second half of the season, no arguments here, for numerous reasons but, just as an example, his final season at Real he notched 4 goals and 18 assists in La Liga in about 700 minutes more.

          Now there's more to it than just goals and assists, definitely, and his performances in the second half of the season were very poor. But I shall give him a 2nd season before I'll ever see him as a flop.

          1. Nico.
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Playing 1,650 minutes in a season should be an argument against him, not for him.

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Not really at all. It shows what he accomplished in limited time, was not his fault LVG decided to mess about with formations and then decided he didn't have a starting place.

              1. Nico.
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                He was dropped for being terribly out of form, wasn't he? Being displaced by Marouane Fellaini can't be a good thing for a 60m signing.

                1. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  It was more Young knocking him out on the wing. Yes he was dropped as he had a few games that weren't up to scratch, but then he was left on the bench for an excessively long time in my opinion, very poorly handled. Even worse, when they had issues in the CM and needed someone to fill in, they don't turn to ADM who is at his best in the LCM area, instead they play Rooney there.

                  1. internal error
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    being dropped for Ashley Young says it all

                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      But he was subsequently left to rot on the bench. No doubt he deserved to be dropped, that time in particular he was struggling a lot with English life it seemed. But to never earn a call back at any stage, even when needed, was poor.

                      My point is only that I won't be defining him as a flop yet. If similar happens next season, he is a flop, but probably because of mismanagement as opposed to his actual ability.

                      1. internal error
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        ok, but regardless of the reasons, the fact that he was rotting on the bench was unacceptable for a 60 mil signing, whether it was down to the manager or not. He was a flop last season in my eyes

                  2. Nico.
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Cuadrado had an assist in 200-ish minutes. Does that make him a good signing too? 😉

                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Well, I will also be willing to give Cuadrado his chance next season before I come to any conclusions as he has hardly featured.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        De Jong was and is a flop, I'm afraid. 🙁

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I like to give lads brand new to the PL 2 seasons before fully deciding. Helps eliminate the one season wonders, and gives him a chance to have a more injury free run.

        2. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          He's started one game!

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Di Maria was not a flop - he was wrecked by an idiot manager. 😕

      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Agree very strange what happened last year...

        Think Adm will do well this year if LvG sorts it out

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        true, but at £60mil, the expectations on him were unreal

    5. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Mangala. He's improving, still young, and could be very good in the future. But really, £32m?

      1. Ludo
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        And Balotelli has to be number one. Has to be!

        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Really? You're more disappointed by Balotelli than Falcao? Balotelli has never actually been a good footballer

          1. Ludo
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I'm not disappointed by either. But at least Falcao was only a loan (albeit an expensive one), and he looked good in flashes, brief as they were. You sign Italy's first choice, 24 year old striker, who's scored 30 goals in 54 games for Milan, at the price of £16m, and he does nothing at all.

            1. Give The Todd Some Love
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              10 of those were penalties, 5 were freekicks - so that's 15 from 54 in open play, not quite so impressive. Also Falcao's wages cost United £24 million!

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        ahh yea, he would make the list for sure. Cost City a few points

        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Kompanŷ cost them more though

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Maybe. Bony signing cost them points as well as Pelle moved away from 4-5-1 for a while.

            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              My point is still valid 🙂

    6. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'd have Vargas and Isla in there before Ince and Bony

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        i put Ince in there because I believe he turned down the chance to join Inter and ended up being loaned out by Hull, after a few games. Vargas didn't have that high a level of expectation nor did he cost much. Same with Isla

        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Both cost a fortune in wages

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            all their players cost a bomb. Expectation and transfer fee were the main factors when i compiled this list in all of 2 mins

            1. Give The Todd Some Love
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Fair enough. Both were loans I think

        2. Hooky
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Fair point. Ince just isn't good enough for the Premier League, but Vargas and Isla are and should have done much better with the ability that they have.

          1. Give The Todd Some Love
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Vargas was decent when he played

    7. Nico.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      ADM's still a very good player. Just not £60m good. It's not his fault that Manu massively overpaid for him.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        He is worth 60 million. At left midfield.

        1. Nico.
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Certainly not imo, especially not when the likes of Vidal, Gundogan, Modric, Kroos etc. are available at half the price and are equally good.

          1. Give The Todd Some Love
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            None of them play in that position...

            1. Nico.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Oh, did Doos mean left wing? I thought he meant the left side of a middle trio, which I'm certain is the position he was bought to play in.

              Then again there are tons of options on the left wing too, for not nearly 60m.

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                No - I meant left midfield!

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            You are mad! 😀

            1. Nico.
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Do you rate ADM as twice as good as those players, then? 🙂

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Yes. 😀

          3. The Machine
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Yup. Alexis sanchez cost half as much as di maria did....

        2. The Machine
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Not sure about that. His best position is left midfield, and he is ridiculously good over there, but 60mil. Too much for someone who wont get you loads of goals.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            But - he will! 🙂

            1. Wishdom Teeth
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Check the career stats of ADM. He will never score loads of goal if we go by the stats. As you are a big fan of stats what are the reasons of your believing that he will score loads of goal ? (He never scored more than 7 goal in a season in league)

          2. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Agree with this. Sanchez cost 30 odd, Hazard around the same. I'd have both over ADM any day of the week, any month or the year, any year of the decade.

      2. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Trying to objective. I'm a fan of his and it was painful to see him a) join utd and b) watch him being played OOP. It doesn't however change the fact that he did not perform to the expected level. I can't see VG getting the best out of him next season either, unless they sign a decent CM.

    8. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Several of these are harsh.

      Shaw was injury hit and has looked extremely promising when he played.

      ADM had an electric start then faded while LVG figured things out, but he has at least shown what he is capable of.

      Bony looked good in general for City but fitness & ACON were issues.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        i think Shaw has been distinctly average in the games he's actually played in, but he showed glimpses that makes me think that he can do well next season,

    9. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Lovren
      ADM
      Mangala
      lallana
      Balotelli
      Falcao
      Lukaku
      Cuadrado

      Harsh on the rest to be there imo

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        expectation and fee were the main reasons i chose the guys above. For example, Kramaric was a record fee and didn't really make any telling contribution. Relatively speaking, he was a big flop. Sounds harsh but it is what it is. De Jong was very injury prone so was a big risk for Newcastle. One that didn't pay off. Shaw cost £30mil, which was extremely excessive for a left back. He can turn it around next season but he's been very underwhelming in my opinion, bar a couple of half games

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I agree on Shaw but he was injured for a while so we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Pretty sure people will say Shaw is a flop this time next year though. Regardless of age, he isn't a good use of 30m investment.

  7. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone know what channel the Copa America will be on in the UK ?

    Thanks

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Premier Sports 🙁

    2. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This link seems to think Eurosport or Sky Sports may still show it. If not then YouTube or Xbox live look like the only options.

      http://www.tsmplay.com/football/tv-channels-broadcasting-2015-copa-america/

      1. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Premier Sports have exclusive UK TV coverage. http://www.premiersports.tv/2015-copa-america/2015-copa-américa/copa-america-coverage-premier-sports.html £9.99 to watch the tournament

    3. King Henrik
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks All

  8. CoolBeans
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Can anyone find any holes in this? I'm thinking this could be achievable.

    .......4.5.......4.5......


    (Sun) (Swan) (Jags/Azpi) (New)
    4.5..........5.0..........6.0..........4.0..........4.5


    (Hazard) (Richie) (Cazorla/Walcott)
    12.0..........5.5..........4.5..........6.5..........9.0


    (Aguero) (Deneey) (Kane)
    13.0..........6.0..........10.5

    1. CoolBeans
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      That looked a lot neater before I posted it!!

    2. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I would not spend £10.5m on Kane. Caz looks a bargain at £4.5m though 😉

    3. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Prices might be different.

    4. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Midfield is very lightweight for me

      1. The Nuttman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Agree, I'm fine with a cheap 4th and 5th but would want to put a little more funds into the third mid slot.

      2. CoolBeans
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'm hoping Richie will be 5.5, I think at that price he'll definitely be worth a look. Someone in the 6-6.5 bracket always comes through, Siggy, Downing, Hendo, Mane etc.
        Kane's price is tricky to predict, 10.5 is the highest I would expect but hopefully he'll be cheaper.

  9. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Jack Sullivan @jsullivanwhu
    Cheeky update -we expect to announce our new manager within 48 hrs or less, keep visiting official WHU web site, where it will be announced.

    Jack Sullivan @jsullivanwhu
    we expect a major player signing this week, I'll update you as soon as
    its done

    A few announcements for the Hammers coming soon.

    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      'Cheeky update'

      What a bellend

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        +1

      2. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yes indeed.

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Is it Berbatov?

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      2 quid says it's Allardyce

  10. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Wrote this article about Liverpool's business in the transfer market - would appreciate it if you give it a read...

    http://www.90min.com/posts/2224146-rating-liverpool-s-signings-of-the-brendan-rodgers-era-a-hit-or-a-miss

    What do you all think of Ings? Good, but not good enough imo..

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      +1

      Good read. I think Ings is okay-ish for free. Ings and Milner seems an ok start considering we they're supposedly free but they're only good signings if LFC sign first team players to compliment them.

  11. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    No one will ever know

  12. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Aaaaand it's back.

  13. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Phew back again.

    Never been so pleased to see Watford.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I doubt that this feeling will persist ... 😉
      Sorry, Applebonkers!

  14. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    What's the ratio of posters to lurkers on here?

    1. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      We'll never know...

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'd guess 1 to 5.

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      About 1/5.

    4. A.T
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Let's find out. Lurkers raise your hands now please.

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Jerkers can't raise their hands.

        1. A.T
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          There are no lurkers. Fact.

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Forca.

            1. A.T
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Bless 🙂

      2. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        o/

        😳

        1. A.T
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I knew you'd be out there 🙂

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Been on holiday for a week so haven't even been lurking much recently - just starting to get back up to speed with things, this is one of my favourite times of year on the site with a pleasant pace and topics being theoretical rather than applied FPL 🙂

      3. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        o/

        1. A.T
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Shame on you 😉

      4. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        0/ . Batman is always vigilant 😉

  15. Epic Fail
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    And I'll bring it down again if my demands aren't met.

    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      😆

    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      😀

  16. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Just to warn everyone that I'm about to edit another article so if the site crashes and articles go missing then you'll know its me. 🙂

    1. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      We knew it was you last time. How is your announcement going to make us feel any better?

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I thought it was always you 😉

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Harsh, guys!!! 😆

  17. Santi sensei
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I have a dream , one day i will become a ffs member

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Your bank account has that dream as well, fulfill those dreams.

      1. Santi sensei
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'm still a student , 19 years old with not much income .. ofcourse i can afford the membership fees but i'm from Myanmar and not familiar with payment accounts ..

        1. The Nuttman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I have no idea but am sure one of our most powerful overseers will help.

          1. Santi sensei
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Cheers mate .. i would really love to be a member

        2. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Do you have a credit credit/debit card?

          1. Santi sensei
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            No sir .. that's why it is only a dream ..

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      MLK IS SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE! 😛

      1. Santi sensei
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Haha, He must be 😆

  18. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    JK retweeted this -

    @AnfieldHub: We said signings not sign Ings.

    1. A.T
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Lol

    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      😀

    3. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      @joshuamisoko: @anfieldhub From SAS - Suarez and Sturridge

      to LMFAO - Lambert, Milner, Flanagan And Origi

    4. Taffer
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

    5. Santi sensei
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This is quality 😀

    6. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      😎

  19. The Nuttman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Oh no, Test player 24 of Sweden is a doubt, do I stick with them or get another Striker for the Fantasy Under 21 Euro's?

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Im going test player 69(c)

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Those sweatpants are going to be mine!

      1. The Nuttman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Not if it doesn't start.

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Then I'll just pop to Primark and spend £3

          1. The Nuttman
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            What a bargain, cheap as chips.

    3. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      last team announced yesterday, so they probably will update soon

      1. The Nuttman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        All is good then.

  20. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Who is James H and why is he writing this? was applebonkers not available?

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Says at the bottom he helped him.

      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        so it does

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          But last year Andy wrote the Leicester one, so I don't know why AB didn't actually write this one.

  21. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    How many pts did Bale score the season before he was priced at 12.0m?

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      249 points.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks.

        Hazard is getting there. Think he'll be 11.5m next year.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          11.5m is cool. 12m....cat...pigeons....

        2. The Nuttman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          That he could be, still think I'd pay it.

    2. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      249

    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      249 I think

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Too slow

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I appreciated the effort from you and Lawro 🙂

  22. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Klose stays another year in Lazio.

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I want him and Totti to play for a long time to come.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        2 legends 🙂

      2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, seria a wont be the same without Totti and Klose is a legend.

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Whatever happened to Italian football? It's used to be so good. Can't be all down to match fixing.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Their defenders became crap.

            1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              That is just wrong, sure on they might lack the superstars they used to have but overall they are very good

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                We will agree to disagree, then.

                1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I disagree with this 😉

                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Oh, my Baresi of long ago...

                    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      🙂

                    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Tasotti, Baresi, Costacurta, Maldini

                      what a back 4 that was

          2. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            AC Milan fell and the league collapsed 🙁

            They look ok right now though. Italian team in CL final.

          3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Oh no that is just the Italian way.

            Finances is more of a problem, Italian economy took a heavy blow in the last crisis.

            Allthough I would not say it is so bad overall footywise.
            They are still the unmatched masters of tactics, especially when it comes to defending. I still don't get why I never hear of anh young english talents going to italy for a good schooling.

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              See, I never fully understand this Italian defending stuff.

              They're apparently the best defensively but players like Jovetic, Lamela, Immbobile etc. can go off and score massively in Serie A but fail to do that in other leagues. Just doesn't really add up for me, have I missed something?

              1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                The Italians greatness in defending is due to good schooling which comes from coaches. This can be done from young talents which are cheap.

                Offensive greatness on a international level comes with a high cost, this is where teams in Italy struggle to compete. Thus we see immobile instead of Ravanelli or Vialli

                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I think you missed the point.

                  If crap attackers can do well in Serie A, then the defending must be crap, surely?

                  1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Sorry, I thought he pointed to offensive players exported not measuring up when they come abroad.

                    Still there are reasons several countries young talents choose Italy when it comes to defensive play.

                2. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I'm just confused as to how the great Italian defenders can allow the likes of Immobile or Lamela to score so many goals? If that makes sense. I genuinely don't know, which is why I ask!

          4. The Nuttman
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            No CB's want to play the old Italian way, they want to do the sexy new things an thus make mistakes.

  23. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Well, has anyone else tried making Copa America teams on the Mondogoal site?
    It does not save your team until I tried my country as UK, and it worked.

    😐

  24. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    So guys what's the maximum price you'd pay for Hazard and Aguero?

    I'd say Hazard 12, Aguero 13

    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Depends what other players are priced at and what their fixtures are.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Agree with other players but I don't fixtures will have much say when getting Hazard/Aguero

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Im very comfortable with 11.5m & 12m. I have an idea what my team structure will look like if they come in at that. Anything more and Im screwed.

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        * 12.5m

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Same here. I just hope FPL don't overprice both of them, that'd really unbalance the rest of the squad.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Most would cut a CHelsea defender is my guess.

      3. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You going cheap at the back? This is a rough guide I'm sticking to:

        4.5 - 4.5
        5.5 - 5.0 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.0
        11.5 - 8.5 - 7.5 - 6.5 - 4.5
        12.5 - 10.5 - 6.0

        I'm sure fixtures, prices and signings will change it though 🙂

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Mine is similar to this but I've cut the 10.5 striker to accommodate a Chelsea defender.

        2. The Nuttman
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No worry about Aguero at the Copa America, like with Sanchez of Arsenal?

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Appar Kun started right after last WC and did well?

            1. The Nuttman
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I will take this as a no then.

          2. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah a little, but I'd want the funds ready for him either way.

        3. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Not sure yet. I'm ready for a possible

          4.5 = 4.5
          7 = 4.5 = 4.5 = 4.5 = 4
          11.5 = 6 = 8.5 = 9 = 4.5
          12.5 = 6 = 8.5

          No doubt the 7m will come in at 7.5m

          🙁

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Ivan? Yeah I think he will.

    3. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      11.5 and 13, at 12 it would probably mean the difference between Hazard and Fabregas isn't worth it for the start of the season.

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        So this.

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Same here. I'm hoping they're 0.5m cheaper though.

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Whatever it takes.

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        this

    6. Taffer
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      With the same PPG as Silva / Sanchez is Hazard actually going to be worth that extra $$$? He didn't even score a brace this season - hardly explosive.

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You don't think he has the potential to improve?

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Hazard is captain material and will have a high ownership. Almost a must

    7. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Well Kun will be in my team regardless.

      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        La Liga fantasy football maybe 😉

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          😉 Waiting on that dark day for a few seasons now.

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Kun is 100% must. I just hope he isn't anything over 13

        Hazard if expensive, could be covered by Cesc to begin with whilst we shuffle around to find a way to accommodate Haz + Aguero

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I hope so as well.

          Aye. What Hazard offered this season, compared to previous, was improved consistency. My memory is that he tends to build his consistency over a season, I usually don't own him the first little while. But that might need to change, depending on price.

          Have a feeling people will get so caught up with Haz they'll forget to have funds ready for Sanchez, who I fancy for a really great season.

          1. Taffer
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            If Sanchez becomes a tad more consistent he will blow Hazard out of the water next year IMO.

            Haz / Sanchez / Aguero are a must. If Higuain goes to Arsenal it could get very interesting.

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Absolutely, what a cracking first season in the PL.

              Aye, would like to see how Higuain settle in the league.

    8. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Hazard 12, Aguero 12.5 (but probably not at the beginning of the season after Copa America)

  25. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    How do you get the bullet points like Jonty has in his article?

    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I can just add those in if its for your community article.

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah it will be. Not quite finished yet though.

  26. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    News for Milanista

    "AC Milan CEO Adriano Galliani is in Portugal trying to broker a deal for Porto front man Jackson Martinez, according to our colleagues at Sky Sport Italia.

    The striker is on the club's wishlist following the boost to their funds provided by new shareholder Mr Bee."

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'd prefer this beast in the PL myself, good deal if true and Galliani can make it happen though.

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I wonder though, he has only played in Colombian, Mexican and Portuguese leagues. At 28, it is strange that he never played in a bigger league. Is he hiding something?

  27. Frank Black
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Does Ings mean no Benteke for Liverpool?

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      You'd expect so, Ings, Origi, Balotelli plus the youngster is quite a few options.

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      £32 mil buy out clause means no Benteke for Liverpool. Liverpool value him at around £20mil