The Pre-Match Preamble - Gameweek 38 Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. gavgo
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Kolarov or Mahrez Captain today?

    1. nibby
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Mahrez

      Mind helpin me out below?

    2. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Kolarov

  2. Forza Napoli
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Haha, this is a great article. Genuinely upset by part-time Petes. More upset I've captained Aguero for the last god knows how many gameweeks.

    Cheeky RMT:

    De Gea (McCarthy)

    Gomez, Francis, Kolarov (Naughton, Mertesacker)

    Ayew, Sanchez, Mahrez, Pedro (Wanyama)

    Gomis, Wilson, Aguero (c)

    My question is this: Do I do Pedro to Silva (0.8ITB) or sit on the transfer 'til next week?

    1. nibby
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Do Silva.

      Mind helpin me out below?

    2. Zero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      It looks a decent team, I'd prefer Silva over Pedro and Silva is a long term keeper

      1. Quinny___
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Keeper? He's a CAM, do you even football bro

        1. Zero
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Keeper, as in the word keeper. The word that I typed.

          Not keeper, as in the word I didn't type, goalkeeper.

          1. ebb2sparky
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Lol

    3. Forza Napoli
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers lads. I agree. Silva's stats so far this season are also too tasty to ignore.

  3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Yes Mark. But it still irks when some casual sits top of your mini league without making any effort!

    Casuals the lot of em!

    Let the cream rise to the top eventually.

    A more thought provoking preamble this week.

  4. nibby
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Darmian or, Gomez. Start which one?

    1. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Darmian

    2. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Darmian

    3. Forza Napoli
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Darmian, he's a far greater attacking outlet.

    4. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Gomez

  5. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Bloody casuals and their lives outside of fantasy football.

    1. Jebiga
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      😀

    2. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Spoil it for the rest of us don't they 🙂 !

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        That comment that we shouldn't be worried we will catch them around Christmas when they will be busy opening presents and spending time with family really chuckled me. The funnies comment of the season ahhahaha

        :))))))))))0

  6. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Morning guys. Good to go? Bench in shambles but I think I can crawl through this gameweek without a hit.

    Ruddy
    Kolarov, Cedric, Huth
    Silva, Chadli, Mahrez, Sanchez
    Aguero, Wilson, Pelle

    subs: Rudd --- Mertesacker, Saylor, Bentaleb --- 0 FT, 1.5 ITB

  7. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    In the absence of a certain poster, I'll just go ahead and say it.

    I hope all my players do well this GW.

    1. McEwan2002
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I hope my players do well.

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I hope all my players do well and that all of the ones i dont own don't score many points.

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Only thing that wont toil this gw is Pelle C!

  8. Zero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I hate not owning Kolorov, I've gone with Yaya, Silva and Aguero as y 3 City players.

    Is it time to do Yaya out, Kolorov in?

    I'm reluctant as even with two FTs I'd have to take a 4pt hit, plus Kompany is out this week.

    Yay or hold fire?

    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I'm same. Stuck with Sagna.

  9. Hot Sauce
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Alright lad. Help appreciated.

    Williams EVE or Muniesa LEI

    1. nibby
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Williams

      Mind helpin me out above?

      1. Hot Sauce
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Darmian

  10. Sean.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Westwood or Prodl ?

    1. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Nyom

    2. Blame it on Traore
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Prodl

      1. Sean.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        thanks

  11. Iinvin
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Is it worth bringing in ozil > coutinho and pedro>silva for - 4 hit

    1. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No

    2. bar low tell me
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Not for -4

  12. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Casual is a descriptive word, not a derogatory word. Although like many words, it can be misused.

    1. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly

    2. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Casually agreeing with this.

    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah it isn't offensive I think

    4. sweensa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      In the scheme of things is more factual than offensive. If someone doesn't give a second thought to their team and just pick based on what their mate is doing or the dude got a ha trick the week before then they are casual. It doesn't consume their entire week like it does myself and countless others. I bet on the grand national, Galway hurdle and Gold cup that's it I'm a casual betting person.

  13. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    What's going on.....carnagio 😮

    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      😯 .. Drama!! Finally someone noticed it! i thought i was going crazy!

      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I think the systems been bypassed by a spam bot....

  14. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    If we got the reliable news that Pedro starts, would you start him over Ayew or Gomis ?

    1. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      no

      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        That simplifies my afternoon. 😀

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Over Ayew, regardless.

      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        My initial thought was to bench Gomis because a goal from Ayew will be more points and he can assist others too. Umm..

  15. FISSH
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Lol wtf? Someone deleted my post about aguero captain? Why exactly?

    1. Nascimento
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Not allowed to discuss moderated users

    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      It is on page 1 , last post

    3. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Aguero under moderation

    4. Sverdet
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      You were hurting the 20% of this site aguero (C)

    5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      loooool

    6. FISSH
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No worries it moved back to last page 😯

  16. Mohit20
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    is sterling nailed on???

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      There will be rotation in the city attack but Sterling should play most of the time when fit

  17. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    More talk about banned posters than the actual football with the deadline less than an hour away, WTF 🙄

    1. McEwan2002
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Ban this person. He is having a discussion.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        loooooooool hahahah

    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Why on earth have you predicted a 0-0 draw in the Midland Derby? What is your reasoning?

      1. Nascimento
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        How is that a surprise?

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Derby = Goals and Red Cards

    3. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Congtras, youre continuing the trend

      1. Milner4eva
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Hahahhahah

    4. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      It's far more interesting then that drivel

    5. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Bring back those Family Fortune quizzes I'd say.

  18. Cov
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Quick question! Will Sterling start? Dont know if he played in CL..

  19. bar low tell me
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Should i start pedro???ahead of cedric and kos??
    Help plz

    1. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure it helps, but im starting him with Westwood as 1st sub

  20. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    i like to think im somewhere between a get a life nerd and a casual

    1. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I like to think I'm brilliant in every way.

  21. Ayew Serious
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    A dude on Soccer Am just said 8 teams could win the rwc... Hahahah

    There is one

    1. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      He is right

      1. Ayew Serious
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        There is 7 who can make semis

        1. Nascimento
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Only 4 can make semis

    2. Demí
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      What an idiot. Doesn't he know there are 20 teams in it

      1. Your Mum's Athletic
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        😆

      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        😆

    3. Quinny___
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Ireland being the one

  22. Hooky
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I miss having Matt Elliot in my fantasy team. Those were the days!

    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Try Ian Harte.

      1. Hooky
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        The old Kolarov. He was great as well. Neil Redfearn was my greatest ever pick as nobody else in my league had ever heard of him, let alone picked him!

  23. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Re-posted on new article.

    A little dilemma with Pedro out injured.

    My current team:

    Schmeichel (McCarthy)
    Sagna Targett Gomez Darmian (Ward)
    Ayew Sanchez Mahrez (Westwood Pedro)
    Wilson Aguero Gomis

    My 1 FT this week was Lukaku > Wilson

    Do I:

    A) Stick with the above? (My inclination)
    B) Change to 3-4-3 and do Darmian > Westwood
    C) Take a -4 hit and do Pedro > Silva

    Thanks all.

    1. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Anybody else? I'm tempted to join the Silva bandwagon, but it'll be at a cost.

      Also currently 23 points off the top of my ML.

  24. keano
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Pedro out
    who is the best mid option
    already have mahrez,yaya+sanchez?

    1. snowman
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      shaqiri

  25. FootballFanatic365
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    start

    1 diouf

    or

    2 gomis

    1. sweensa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I'm going Gomis so going on my form this season Diouf. I have both currently benching Diouf

  26. Hyperion
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Bench one: Ayew (EVE), Mane (MUN), Sinclair (WBA)

    1. Luis Suarez Ate My Homework
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Mane.

  27. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    You know smoking is bad for you , but once you start it is impossible to resist

    The same applies for us FFS users who cant have the Casual Normal life

    1. sweensa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Never a truer word spoken buddy

  28. zencro 42
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Play Azpi (ARS) or Huth (stk)?

  29. Blue Gaffer
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Who to captain:

    Benteke
    Aguero
    Kolorov
    Wilson
    Mahrez?

  30. Sverdet
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    What is moderated users??

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn't captain Aguero personally

    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Jonty , Mark , TM etc....the green ones

      1. Fitzy.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I think you are off the mark somewhat, have another crack at it...

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Maybe I will ask Stanville about it

    3. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Average user I'd say.