The Knee Jerk
29 October 2011 3157 comments
Mark Mark
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The concept of a player being fixture proof in Fantasy football is a much discussed topic around these parts. Wayne Rooney put forward a strong case a few gameweeks back, defying United’s tricky opening to the season with a points tally that left all but Sergio Aguero in his wake. Today, Robin Van Persie perhaps presented even stronger evidence that, when a player has talent and form, no opposition can stand in their way.

Van Persie is certainly a force of nature right now. Seven goals in his last three games have propelled him to the top of every Fantasy manager’s most wanted list. The Dutchman, along with Rooney and Aguero, have all enjoyed devastating spells of form this season. Any Fantasy manager who has failed to catch at least one of them, surely finds themselves floundering.

Ironically, it’s Wayne Rooney who has been hugely overshadowed by Van Persie’s recent returns. Today at Goodison, Rooney dropped alarmingly deep, as Alex Ferguson charged Danny Welback and Javier Hernandez to push on. In Fantasy terms, certainly as far as our own ICT Index is concerned, Rooney suffered his least effective 90 minutes of the season – the numbers are there – our Members can see for themselves.

Van Persie meanwhile, made a mockery of the fixture list which told us that a trip to Chelsea would pose him problems; that perhaps he couldn’t maintain his recent form at Stamford Bridge. Friday night’s decision to go with Van Persie over Sergio Aguero in the Scout Picks wasn’t taken lightly. We suspected that the Chelsea defence would be unable to keep the Dutchman at bay. Nobody could have predicted the havoc he would cause, the delicious end product he would deliver.

In three games, Van Persie has returned 36 Fantasy Premier League points – a tally that will surely increase with bonus points on Monday and perhaps the award of an assist for Theo Walcott’s goal. In contrast, Rooney has produced 5 points over the same three gameweeks. When you throw in the captaincy, that’s a big swing and painful reading for those who held Rooney with faith that his undoubted talent and early season form would see him through.

Conveniently, then, that takes us full circle. While Van Persie has done so much today to prove the theory that, with class and form, the opposition is irrelevant, Rooney’s recent returns present strong evidence of the contrary. The matches against Liverpool, City and Everton looked tough for Rooney- five points is certainly proof of that. Another twist in what is rapidly becoming a fascinating Fantasy season.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Optimus.
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    does anyone have ade(c) over vdv?

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    1. Declan
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      Yep

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      1. Optimus.
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        so do i hopefully it pays off mate hes due a brace

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    2. Shane Warnes Flipper
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      Me too!

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  2. Real Socially Distant
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    Assist 4 RVP?

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    1. Optimus.
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      on the way with his 3 boni

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  3. Blue Moon
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    Shall I get rid of Aguero or Rooney for RVP? Have Silva, no United coverage. Would need to take a 4 point hit if I was to drop Aguero

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    1. Optimus.
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      thats a tough 1 but if roo keeps playing deep id loose him

      his scores last few week aint been great

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      1. Ismail
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        i just transf rooney out for rvp,both have great fixtures but rvp is in form and the inevitable price rise is coming

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  4. Paul
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    howmany yellow cards is it now for rvp????

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    1. applebonkers
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      just 2

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    2. Demí
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      2

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  5. applebonkers
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    love a bit of craig colton

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    1. Bouncebackability
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      Who does he play for? That other team isn't it?

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  6. ddande
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    Good Evening!
    VDV or Lampard? Feeling a need to get rid of Gerrard sooner than later. Any input will be greatly appreciated!

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    1. Optimus.
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      vdv just sways it for me fatty hasnt the greatest of fixtures thats not saying he wont score

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      1. ddande
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        Cheers! I was thinking something similar I do have ade, on the other hand I do have Ade and Lamps seems to be the only consistent point earner for chelsea. Having Ade, would you still do VDV?

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        1. Optimus.
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          well i have ade/vdv but i have mata over lamps

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          1. ddande
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            Thanks, will probably go with VDV

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        2. ddande
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          Have been drinking a bit,I meant to erase the 1st -I do have Ade

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  7. Kings of Lyon ★
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    "if you're going to hit it off target don't hit it straight at the keeper!" commentators are smart bastrds

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  8. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    My team for next week

    Ruddy because Mignolet has united

    Baines Barnett N Taylor

    Nani VDV Brunt Silva

    RVP (C) Adebayor Sturridge

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    1. Ismail
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      y is baines in ur team,rather have enrique or richards or something

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  9. Moves Like Agger
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    Adebayor ——> RVP
    Bosingwa ——-> Wilkinson

    Too Knee jerky??
    Already have VDV for Spurs coverage. I know Adebayor hasn’t played yet but i want RVP before price rise… If anyone knows for sure if Adebayor will go up I will probably wait til tomorrow 🙂

    Also is Wilkinson nailed on starter??

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      I am contemplating that exact move. But I can get shawcross instead of wilko, to have a nailed on stoke defender. Total FPL has both of them to rise overnight.

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    2. Mílanista
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      Adebayor is going up tonight according to totalfpl and fiso. I take it you're halfway to a rise with Ade as otherwise its irrelevant.

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  10. 4vets
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    A little time to reflect.... things I have learnt:

    Never follow the ignorant crowd.

    Go with your head (unless it's worse than others')

    Never follow the ignorant crowd.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      as the cribs sang

      IGNORE THE IGNORANT

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      1. 4vets
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        Neil Innes sang "How sweet to be an idiot", I believe 🙂

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          who the f*ck is neil innes

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    2. Bungalow Bill
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      couldn't agree more, was told last night to buy Kompany with my WC, ignored that and put in Richards instead, delighted now!

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      1. teto
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        To be fair no one knew that was going to happen. Anyone here will agree Kompany>Richards. But I get your point

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      2. heartsattack
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        Was that me that told you that?

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    3. Freshy
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      Always believe what when shit goes wrong its not your fault
      Take full credit when it does

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    4. teto
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      4vets, no United cover at all. You planning on getting some or staying away completely?

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  11. IceMan DB
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    Here's my team and i'm wondering how to get United coverage in.

    Krul Vorm
    Enrique Shawcross Simpson Wilkinson Mcauley
    Eagles Mata VDV Silva Dyer
    Sturridge Aguero RVP

    0.6 in the Bank.

    Thinking of doing Mata to Nani or getting Rooney in for Aguero. What do you guys suggest?

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    1. 4vets
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      Disregarding the necessity of "coverage", why would you want Nani over Mata and Rooney over Aguero?

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      1. IceMan DB
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        I know what you mean, I am reluctant to make any changes but it doesn't feel right going with a United player with the fixtures they have. If I really had to do it then who would you take out?

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        1. IceMan DB
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          without*

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          1. 4vets
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            I'm with you and I have no Man U coverage also. I like the look of my team though 🙂

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  12. Jake9
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    Choose any two out of Rooney,RVP and Aguero. I have no Man U cover but i do have Arsenal and City players.

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    1. sachmo
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      You need RVP. Other than that, it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other...

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  13. Screaming Midget
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    Mark will be chuffing happy tonight..... Kompany is suspended.

    Christ, he couldn't have made it more obvious that he didn't own him had he tried!!!

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    1. Optimus.
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      looks like kompany is going to drop tonight too

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      1. Kostja
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        he needs 70 000 nti- you really think it will happen so soon?

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      2. 4vets
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        So what? I'm playing fpl for points, not money 🙂

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      3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        it doesn;t say so on totalfpl

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        1. bishbosher
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          Link?

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    2. Granville
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      Not sure I follow, Mark has Kompany!!

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  14. Rougie
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    Got Rooney GW6 because he was devastating and he stopped producing. Will the same happen to Robin if I swap Rooney for Van Persie? Could only have both if I take and 8 point hit.

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      RVP and VDV are both doing extremely well.

      Own both pal... good fixtures too!

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      Thats what I did with Roon. You have to catch them while their hot. RVP has been hot all year! What a year. Im keeping till 2012. It seems a massive risk with that 8 point hit.

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  15. A.T
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    vdv, taylor n evans or ramires, kompany n jones?

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    1. Optimus.
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      1st 1 easy

      im thinking of taking a punt on evans for a cheapie

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  16. hazzlehoff
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    who is the best 6.7 mid?

    thinkin walters, brunt, drenthe?

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    1. Optimus.
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      ramsey for his upcoming fixtures shades it over sinclair for his

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        Sess is starting to pick up. 2 goals and 2 assist. But if you, do it after Utd match.

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    2. A.T
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      id wait till after next week to deciede on drenthe but could be him

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    3. sachmo
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      I'd go with Walters...

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  17. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
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    Any improvements?

    Vorm
    Richards | Enrique | Simpson
    Silva | VDV | Ramsey | Allen
    Aguero | Rooney | RVP

    Subs:
    Ruddy , Dyer , Brown , Orr

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  18. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Scott Sinclair...

    Bargain?

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    1. gravless
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      No! just God

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    2. applebonkers
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      penalty whore

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      1. Granville
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        I'm getting really annoyed at these penalties. How do they get so many.

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        1. applebonkers
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          i think like blackpool their expansive style with pace out wide makes them prone to winning them

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        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          You can add Grant Holt and Norwich to that. Poor zonz. He had a absolute stormer as well today. For anyone interested Hoolahan was also good, especially first half. Was the centre of everything they created.

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        3. Hate that rotation
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          tricky players who rather dribble in the box than shoot.

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    3. Ismail
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      yes im sick of his pen,giving my rivals points for nothing really

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        It's been a central part of fantasy football since forever

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  19. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Ok 100 % getting silva

    last decision

    Joe allen or Brad Johnson

    First to 3

    Brad or Allen

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      allenallenallen

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      allen

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        Allen!!!!

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    3. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
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      allen

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        cheers lads

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    4. SC not pearls before swine
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      Fox

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  20. Syd.
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    Manchester United have a 3pm kick off next Saturday...

    Is that allowed??

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    1. RoyaleBlue
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      why wouldn't it be

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    2. Holy See
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      Only on Saturdays.

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  21. Paul
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    what are the chances of aguero playing the qpr match????

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    1. AP
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      Here we go again...

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        I cant deal with this crap.

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        1. 4vets
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          + 42

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      2. Paul
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        its not bout goin again....just in a dilemma if whether to take out rooney or not....dont wanna take him out in a home match....

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    2. gravless
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      nil 🙂

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    3. Syd.
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      I can't see why not unless he gets injured midweek

      City should put all thier efforts into the PL...

      The CL is a mere distraction atm

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      1. Nomar
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        Hopefully nil.

        Not that it'll make any difference really, unless they have a really bad day though!

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    4. applebonkers
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      50.1%

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  22. RoyaleBlue
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    OK got most of my strike force sorted only need 1 more striker got 10mil suggestions

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      hernandez or suarez?

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    2. 4vets
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      Graham?

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    3. Optimus.
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      suarez for this gw hernandez for the next few

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  23. IceMan DB
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    Is Allen going up in price tonight?

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    1. Nomar
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      I don't think Joe Allen is a great buy to be honest with you. Sinclair is a much better choice in my opinion.

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        Allen is far better value of the 2

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        1. Granville
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          I would agree, but they are getting so many penalties. Sinclair is becoming Charlie Adam of last season without the bps. 2 shots off target means he'll probably miss out again.

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      2. IceMan DB
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        The only reason i'm going for him is so I can afford Rooney or Nani as right now I don't have any United coverage and it just doesn't feel right with the fixtures they have.

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  24. Holy See
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    10mil suggestions? You don't ask for much. Suarez/Adebayor/Sturridge/Gervinho/Agbon/Hernandez/Bendtner. There's 7 😉

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    1. Holy See
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      For Tozy, oopthy daithy. Vino kickin in 😉

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  25. 4vets
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    Will my wife be friendly after she comes home after her night out with the "gals"?

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    1. Nomar
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      Define friendly and place it into context with the word wife.

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      1. 4vets
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        Damn! I'm doomed 😉

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    2. Optimus.
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      depends if she got some love or not

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      1. 4vets
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        Here's hoping she did coz I'm watching to the footy 😉

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        1. Optimus.
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          only kidding mate

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      2. Nomar
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        Considering she's been out all night I would hope for Steve's sake that she hasn't been getting some love on the side. That would be most unacceptable and egregious.

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        1. 4vets
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          No, no.. my name is not Steve in any case. I just want an easy life... and for VDV to score 3 tomorrow 😉

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    3. King Eric, in America
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      Women hitting the sauce and talking the naughty?

      Hit the shower now, 4vets - your time's-a comin' :mrgreen:

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      1. 4vets
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        My time is coming for bed... before she gets home 🙂

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      2. Nomar
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        Depends what she's been drinking really.

        If its my wife and she's been on the cider then I don't stand a chance to escape doing the nasty!
        Gin, though, and its sob city all night long.

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        1. King Eric, in America
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          I'd have a second refrigerator stocked with the cider, then.

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            i'd buy shares in magners and take her to the AGM

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      3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        i think bumfun could be on the cards

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    4. Jafalad
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      Depends on her "cycle." Just ask Christina about these things - had a right menopausal strop on of late 😉

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        Christina, on here?

        You know that's a Dude, right?

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        1. 4vets
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          Hoe dare you!

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  26. Jafalad
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    Schoolboy Human Technical error:

    Failing to confirm team when choosing Cap'n VDV. Lumbered with Silvastreak now 🙁

    Basic.

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  27. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    My captain choice is tough next week

    Can i risk not picking RVP as skipper

    other options

    Silva
    VDV
    Adebayor
    Nani - got a feeling he is due a big score could be another nasri disaster though

    tricky

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      RVP is having such a good 2011. Just capt him for the rest of the year. Auto captain - C.Ronaldo. Good old days. 🙂

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        Your right too risky not to captain him anymore

        RVP (C)

        VDV(VC)

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    2. Jafalad
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      Form, fixtures, team...not sure why you'd want to disregard RVP.

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    3. Mílanista
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      Another brace at home for RVP next week.

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  28. div
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    Petrov ain't doing it for me think l need to replace him l have 6.2, any thoughts?

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  29. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    How bad is mignolets injury only realised he played 51 mins today ?

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  30. Mílanista
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    I've just compared the fixtures for Utd and City up to week 23, which is the last week to use the January wildcard. Taking out City's game next week (since I have Kompany), I would say there are 4-5 fixtures where I think Utd have a better chance of keeping a clean sheet than City. With this in mind I want to do Kompany to Jones. Anyone else think this is a good idea?

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    1. Kostja
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      I would, I just hate guys who are under threat of rotation.

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      1. Mílanista
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        That's the only argument against it. With Smalling out for a month, Ferdinand potentially being out of favour and Jones being able to play defensive mid as well I think the risk is fairly small.

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
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      city have a better defense than united, i dont think that will change this season

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      1. Mílanista
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        Agreed that City defence is better and will keep more clean sheets over the season, but not over the next couple of months.

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