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Friday’s final fixture takes in the Group D clash between Spain and a Turkey side looking for their first points of Euro 2016.

This is the first time the two sides have met in a major finals, while in their previous 10 encounters Spain have won nine. Turkey’s only victory came in a World Cup qualifier in 1954.

Although Vicente del Bosque’s Spain won their first game 1-0 over the Czech Republic, the former World Cup winners were far from convincing with 13 of their 18 goal attempts failing to hit the target.

Turkey will be hoping Spain can continue their profligate goal threat after conceding a worrying 15 shots in the box in their 1-0 defeat to Croatia. Indeed, over their 13 European Championship games Turkey have kept just two clean sheets.

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  1. TJ_777
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    De Gea hasn't recorded a single save the entire game 🙁

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He's just that good 😉

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Does more in one game for United than he'll probably do for Spain all tournament.

  2. VS10_
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Alba cs locked 😎

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Nice

  3. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Is it worth doing either of these Subs for tomorrow?
    A GK with 2pts to Patricio
    B DEF with 2pts to Klein (Aus)

    1. Rowse
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Yes and yes/maybe

    2. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      A definitely. B too, not much to lose, maybe 1 point unless he does a Dragovic.

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Yes to both

    4. Root
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Really?

  4. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Turkey can score now! 😀

  5. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    How many points did Alba finish with? At work so not watching the game...

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      9

      1. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks. Guess I should call Alba(c) a success and leave it there then.

  6. Weeb Kakashi
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    When are people Wildcarding?

    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      next gw. need to get rid of double swiss defence and likes of stanciu muller

      1. Weeb Kakashi
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        If You had a nice team, team would you save it?

        What are the merits and demerits?

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Dunno.
      You?

  7. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If your team is 'decent' is there any point in wc?
    oo.com> wrote:
    Im finding it hard to decide, who to get and who gets rotated ? with so little time to put a team together, if I thought I could get 11 starters out I'd nearly hold off. The only players that's really on my radar right now is the Sick ham and the Italian def tho I believe ROI could unlock that def!
    Interested in others thoughts?

    1. Rowse
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I'm doing the same, I have a good team, hopefully not too many players getting rested, plus I have all the likely price risers as well so just going to keep it going for now

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Yea-so difficult now with so many teams in a position to possibly rest/rotate.
        Bringing in fresh players looks a lottery, you looking at QF Rowse?

        1. Rowse
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah I'm on about 140 points with 2 to play, and I have Payet, Giaccherini, Morata, etc likely to rise in price. I just gotta hold tight/my nerve and then go quarters. I have a lead in all my ML so I should be able to get through GW3 still in front.

          Plus we get a few days thinking time between last group games and L16 games, which we dont get between GW2 and GW3.

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Not afraid Giaccherini and Morata will get rested?

            1. Camp No No
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Forget that Morata resting. Spain hasn't won the group yet, and will definitely want to.

          2. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Top score mate!
            119/3 tg here only really getting going now after picking a team 1hr before KO!

          3. tm245
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Great point about the timing as well.

            1. Rowse
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              Yeah afraid of rotation, but didnt make a transfer so I do have 2 to be used as well. Would probably take 30 points right now if offered it for GW3, just to get me through still being top of my leagues!

    2. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No takers?
      I would have thought this was an important decision either way at this stage,no point in patting yourself on the back with today's points.

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I posted this earlier today. Am absolutely baffled by the rush to wild card:

      "I have been asking the same questions as I think wild carding next matchday is the equivalent of wild carding in gw38 in FPL.

      I think the fact that so little is known about the pricing makes it an odd time to chase price rises, but the bigger issue for me is that the strategy involves stacking your squad with players from eliminated teams, which is the most baffling since the one mechanism we know (and I like) is that a squad of fifteen active players can be used in each round and is a very helpful strategy.

      Wild card between R16 and QF makes the most sense to me since the pool of available players goes from 16 to 8, and there are only four FTs that round. If you have triple France and double England and they both get eliminated, you've lost five players and have only four FTs with which to replace them."

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks TM you talk a lot of sense, I think I can hold.
        even if you WC this round there are still so many uncertainties-I'm not too interested either in packing my team with 4m.

      2. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        That's definitely one reasonable look at it.

        I think the big problem in planning is that we don't know anything about how those price changes will hit us. That can be a total game changer and we have little cue how to prepare for it.

        Personally, I think my team is pretty fine, so I'm probably saving the wildcard. Most of my guys have not yet won the group either, so should play the GW3.

        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I am in a similar position, and am hopeful that my squad depth can carry me through the last group matches. Triple France attack would have been a concern if they had already clinched, but I hope I will be okay.

          1. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            'le donc' needs games 😉

  8. Slam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Scorecheck? 104 in total

    1. Liastro ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      127 with 3 to play.

    2. justmatt
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      112 here

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Haven't a clue

    4. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      139 but only Alaba left

    5. SilkySkills
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      121, 1 to play

    6. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      116 with guerreiro

    7. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      113 with De Bruyne to go.

      1. Slam
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Jesus, looks like my score is below average then.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Nolito made my score look decent

        2. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          You beat mine

    8. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      142

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        You aren't even playing 🙂

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Irrelevant

        2. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I'm playing darts with the brother..

          Sportist!

    9. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      119 with 3 to go

    10. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Do people take out points for subs when they say they are on 127 with three to play ?

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        No-lets 'big' it up on here AW!
        😉

      2. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Well they should

      3. Root
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Obviously

    11. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      104 should get u in the top 50k I assume

    12. Root
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      116 with Almer, Sigurdsson and Hinteregger to play.

    13. Mo Mané Mo Problems
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      127 with Siggy to go. Or 124 with Siggy and Almer.

    14. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      134 😎 🙂

      Gonna sub Strinic and Sommer out for Dzsudszak and Patricio so 130 with 2 left 🙂

    15. Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      126 after I sub in Alaba and Rui

      1. Yolo Toure
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        132 with 3 to play

    16. Knowledgeable meerkat
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      113, Alaba to play

  9. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    It seems Alba was the captaincy better choice.

    Was very nervous when Perisic scored early. Anyways happy to own both 🙂

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Same here-Morata owners rewarded for patience too and Tirkey really should have scored their to reward Alba owners more!

  10. jaredmason
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Thanks McDonalds - way to undo my subs for the round... Now I've got Nolito on the bench and Kono still captain...

    1. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      ?

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Did you press confirm?

      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        So much this.

    3. jaredmason
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I did it in stages confirming after each. There's no way I didn't confirm any of it, which is what I've got

    4. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      wow thats unlucky mate

      id be absolutely bricking myself if i were in your position

    5. SilkySkills
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I'm lovin it

    6. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I thought McDonalds done burgers not subs

  11. TJ_777
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Wow 44 points in one day..

  12. Mayo for Sam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Has Cesc not been awarded the assist for the 2nd?

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure but there was a turkey Def made a solid contact in between.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      correct

    3. justmatt
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      He was to start with, then taken off him.

  13. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Got a total of 29 points from three players today. Good day.

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Nice 19 from my 3 today here

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Solid

    2. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      31 from 5 here 🙂

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Nice! Nolito came up big for us!

        1. Jazz!
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yep 😀

    3. Meimei
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      yesterday 10 points from 5 players , today 24 from three...

  14. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Spanish cs are locked before they even start

  15. John t penguin
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Found this when trying to find more rules for sun dream team
    This Daniel sounds like he really knows his stuff

    DANIEL
    Neuer

    Hummels
    Hector
    koscielny
    Alba

    Perisic
    Calhanoglu
    Yarmolenko

    Griezmann
    Dzyuba
    Muller

    Value through the middle with a strong defence and no bloody djourou!

    The way forward is multiple clean sheets, finding the diamonds in the middle (James Rodriguez world cup as an example) a couple of proven goal scorers and a cheap striking risk!

    Why have a polish defender? They’ll leak and won’t go very far in the tournament

    You’ll only end up taking him out anyway, it happens every season/tournament – the top teams back line consist of defenders and keeper from one or two top teams, and it usually pays off.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Exactly this. Load up on CAMs and good defenders.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        This. But.....doesn't every decent fantasy player follow this rule? Mayb with the exception of mids with PKs?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Pertains more to this fantasy game because you don't need to invest on forwards that much

    2. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Well considering Poland have 2 CS from 2 and u get a free WC after the group stage I would argue that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

      1. John t penguin
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Just stand there the sarcasm bus will come round again

  16. Backup Dancer
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Bonucci Alba and Perisic saving the gameweek.

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Juanfran, Nolito, and Perisic here

      1. Backup Dancer
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Got 2 transfers, wise to make Nolito one I reckon.

        Surely he will rise quite a bit in price.

        1. HVT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          But will he play next time?

  17. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    according to my mcdonalds scorecard
    Nolito got an assist and goal and no minutes played

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Ya had that problem with perisic earlier don't worry they'll fix it. Useless site

  18. JJO
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    There will be someone with more than 56 points in fantasy 7,right?

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Probably

  19. KING_ZLATAN
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    3 goals and no iniesta involvement in points

  20. BB-8
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    34 from 4 today. Any good? 😉

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Awful mate.

      😉

  21. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    150 with Patricio and Joao Mario if he starts to play.

    1. BB-8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Wow. That is immense.

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Oh my haha

    3. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Pff

    4. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      And I thought my score was good 😆 Seriously though, that's top 5 material I reckon.

    5. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Chin up mate

      1. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        😆

      2. Yolo Toure
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Quite happy with my 132 and Ronaldo Patricio Guerreiro to play

      3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Sorry I forgot you were playing Jafooli's fantasy game which is 100 % fantasy 😉

    6. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Very nice ,and played sir , top 10 ?

      116 with Patricio , alaba & Ronaldo

    7. VS10_
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      It's an amazing score, but does it include the players you subbed out after yesterday's games and those who those two will replace?

  22. Slam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Well, not the best WC.
    Got rid of double French defence, Hamsik and Nolito
    and instead brought in Giaccherini(Yay) Kroos and Yarmolenko 😕

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Yikes. Yarmolenko was unnecessary. Others were decent moves.

    2. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      🙁 Unlucky 🙁

    3. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I have a cack team too. 101 with KDB , Alaba , Janko , Guerrero to come. Hopefully wildcard will make things less dismal.

  23. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Is Giroud at risk now of being dropped for Griezman

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      More likely for Gignac...but only for rotation

    2. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Probably not but we get lineups before deadline anyway.

    3. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers forgot we'd get lineups. Contemplating WC... Gotze, Giroud, Stanciu, Muller..

  24. Jazz!
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Dzsudzsak you Hungarian beast and my very own little differential, I want returns tomorrow! 😀

  25. Yolo Toure
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    How long does the game take to update ranks?

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Hours and hours

    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      normally done by 11:00 gmt

      1. Yolo Toure
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        That's not too long, thanks!

  26. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    That's was a bit weird listening to Pullis commentating on Spain , not sure the best fit 🙂

  27. Grand Thibauto
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Muller(2), Giroud(2), Dier(2) and Sommer(3) out for Ronaldo, Hinteregger, Guerreiro and Patricio? Or keep Hinteregger on Bench.

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Definitely

      1. Grand Thibauto
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers. Not benching Hinteregger either.

  28. George James
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    If I have manually brought on all my subs and one of my players didn't play will the first on my bench automatically come on?

    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No, as soon as you make manual subs there are no auto subs.

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No.

  29. Alan The Llama
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    I'm playing the Lothar Mattheus drinking game. I have to have a shot every time he ends a sentence with "yes?".

    I'm hammered.

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      you're warming up for the Thierry Henry "but of course" drinking game

  30. Holy See
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Drriinnkkk!! A sweet Friday, you are indeed most welcome!

    1. 32chickens
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Friday ,friday,a day of expectation

    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Drinking ftw 😎

      http://www.gifbin.com/bin/2sw5sw995sw8yu.gif

      1. 32chickens
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Optimus
        what's this about danny ings going north to rangers?Anything in it?