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His arrival at Stamford Bridge from Fiorentina on the final day of August was unheralded and his league debut a losing one, but Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso would go on to become one of the key Fantasy assets in the 2016/17 campaign.

The Spaniard was brought on in the 3-0 defeat to Arsenal back in September – the moment when Blues boss Antonio Conte first switched to a three-man defence with wing-backs.

Neither side nor player looked back from that point, and with 30 % of the votes, Alonso becomes the first of our three-man defence in the Team of the Season.

The Statistics

Alonso made his first league start in the 2-0 win over Hull City in Gameweek 7, when he was available for 5.9 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), down from his initial starting price of 6.0.

At that point, the Spaniard was owned by a mere 20,523 managers in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), but his performance at the KCOM Stadium provided an immediate indication of the attacking threat he would provide.

He registered five goal attempts against the Tigers – more than any other player involved – and also led the way for chances created (four).

That clean sheet was the first of six consecutive shut-outs for the new-look Chelsea backline, with Cesar Azpilicueta, David Luiz and Gary Cahill combining in central defence and Alonso and Victor Moses operating as wing-backs.

He registered his first attacking returns with an assist in the emphatic 4-0 win over Manchester United in Gameweek 9 and opened his account for his new club with a goal in the comprehensive 5-0 victory over Everton in Gameweek 11.

The wing-back produced his first double-figure haul that day, totalling 13 points.

Following that impressive performance, Alonso saw his price shoot up to 6.3 in FPL prior to the Gameweek 12 trip to Middlesbrough, with over 300,000 managers adopting him by that point.

Conte’s men put together another run of four successive clean sheets between Gameweeks 15 and 19, but it was in Gameweek 21 when Alonso produced one of the definitive performances of the season.

The defender scored twice in Chelsea’s 3-0 win at Leicester City and, with what turned out to be his only maximum bonus point haul of the season, he provided a sensational 21-point return.

Although the clean sheets dried up during the second half of the season, Alonso registered a further three goals and two assists as his price climbed to 6.9 by Gameweek 38.

He ended the season as the joint-top scoring defender in FPL with six goals, while he also provided five assists, one behind the league-leading six from Spurs’ Kyle Walker.

He was also the second-highest scoring defender in FPL with 177 points – one behind team-mate Cahill – with Azpilicueta (170) completing an all-Chelsea top three.

Alonso did average 5.7 points per match (ppm) though, significantly better than Cahill (4.8) and Azpilicueta (4.5).

His underlying statistics were also outstanding, registering more goal attempts (46), shots from inside the box (25) and shots on target (16) than any other FPL defender.

Interestingly, Alonso didn’t fare that well when it came to bonus points, only managing 11 compared to 22 for Azpilicueta and 15 for Cahill.

In a nutshell, Alonso could not compete with that pair for clearances, blocks and interceptions (CBI), or completed passes – both factors which impacted on his Bonus Points System tallies.

The Prospects

Alonso will inevitably earn a price hike next season.

Many will no doubt ponder whether out-and-out wing-backs such as Alonso should be reclassified as midfielders, but a price tag of between 7.0 and 7.5 as a defender appears the most likely outcome.

The classification of Victor Moses could also affect Alonso’s stock.

If he’s also a defender next season, the Nigerian will surely be priced lower than Alonso, although his tally of three goals and three assists was inferior.

All of Chelsea’s defensive starters look set to rise in value, with a minimum price of 6.5 perhaps likely across the board.

With Champions League fixtures on the agenda, we perhaps need to assess Chelsea’s defensive assets with more caution.

Conte will look to strengthen his squad over the summer, with alternatives in the wing-back positions likely to be one of the priorities.

That will need monitoring, with the calibre of new acquisitions dictating whether Alonso could be a rotation risk.

But based on his performances this season, Alonso will surely be expected to remain the first-choice.

He could also justify a hefty price tag, with Conte likely to build the Blues’ title defence around the quest for clean sheets.

We will be keen to monitor Alonso’s early numbers to assess if there is any marked regression, but it’s doubtful whether that will make us wary of investment.

Should Chelsea’s opening fixtures bless them with a favourable start, Alonso will likely remain the go-to option for most, particularly if he is priced at just 0.5 more than his defensive team-mates.

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  1. Dreams
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Never thought he would perform so excellently when he arrived in the beginning. Great player in terms of fpl.

    1. Dreams
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Feels so lonely here. Where is everyone?

    2. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Agree. Mediocre player in real life though. If they sign a better LB/LWB, he'd be a good back-up. That would be good depth.

      1. Dreams
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Yes. I expect his role to be reduced largely next season.

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Alex Sandro would be a great buy in that regard.

          1. Dreams
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 6 months ago

            Or David Alaba.

            1. UnitedFan
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 6 months ago

              Agree

    3. Clifford☯
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Rotation due to CL is definitely going to affect his output FPL-wise.

    4. Siva Mohan
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      thought he would be another Ben Haim or Boulahrouz..

    5. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Think he was a one-off this season, not sure it will be repeated. Have to see, but I'm sure Conte will sign backup and we'll see more rotation from this point onward.

    6. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Agreed.

      I expect 3 at the back will be popular next year and wig-backs priced accordingly.

  2. Siva Mohan
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Rose to Man Utd
    Walker to Man City

    Daniel Levy laughing all the way to the bank..

    Trippier & Davies are excellent replacements..

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Not a fan of Rose personally, or even Walker

      1. Jigger & Pony
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        This. Both injury prone players.

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          Not only that. They're poor defenders. Mediocre at best.

      2. Jazz!
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Rose is absolute quality, far better than Davies that's for sure.

    2. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Bavies and Trippier arguably better players.

    3. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      And Spurs also have Kyle Walker-Peters, so they have the ideally named replacement too as well as the ideally suited replacement in Trippier already in situ 😉

    4. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I rate trippier highly but not Davies as much. Would rather Rose to Davies but Trippier to Walker.

  3. Sweetpea
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Never bought Alonso all season as never really had the funds at the back.

    I guess its a lesson learnt and it reminds me of Coleman two years ago (whom i actually did get).

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I had him for two spells over the season. While having him successfully for the most part, the first time I sold him was before he got the brace at Leicester. That was the case for a good few on here I remember

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      CBs are BAPs magnets.. choosing wing backs could provide extra attacking returns..

      1. Sweetpea
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        I think i'll steer clear of WB's especially as I think they will be priced higher next season.

        I think I'll be looking at relatively cheap goal scoring CB's (like McCauley, Dawson, Dann and VVD) who have CS potential next year as it gives 3 sources of points - CS, Goals and BAPS.

      2. Individual
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Think we'll see one premium wing back plus 4 cheapo cb/lesser valued wing backs being the make up. Really depends if fpl go for it and make a wb category. But I'd be a bit surprised if they actually did do it!

  4. Individual
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Alonso and Coleman were 2 of the defenders this year that flew in the face of the usual "don't take a hit for a defender" rule. So productive and very quickly highly owned once people realised how attacking they were, so big points from them began to really hurt if you didn't own ! Remember when Alonso got his brace / 21pts? If you didn't own, your OR absolutely plummeted.

    Absolute shoo-in for team of the year. What an asset (rather than what a player); well worth the 6.1 I paid!

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      As mentioned above, I got rid of Alonso the week he got that brace. OR plummeted like you said. As for Coleman, I never owned him. Going Baines over him was one of the defining moves of my season.

      1. Individual
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Coleman was one of those I just had to take the -4 to get in. Definitely wrestled with it more than I should've... If he was a mid I'd have done it much more readily!
        Sadly he got injured 2 or 3 games after he came in.

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          True. He was one that paid the hit back instantly

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      2 goals against LEI away .. glad I owned him.

  5. Son of Rambo
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Got Fuchs over Alonso all those weeks ago, by far my worst decision of the season

    1. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      So did I. I got two consecutive 0s from him, so I swapped Alonso and didn't look back 😉

    2. Siva Mohan
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      got Fuchs for their easy fixtures and burnt..

      learnt 'form over fixtures' any day..

    3. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      Unfortunately it doesn't pay to go against the crown in fpl, at least in the first half of the season.

  6. Siva Mohan
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 6 months ago

    Erisken & Alli price prediction for FPL 2017/18..

    9.0 & 9.0

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      10 & 10.5

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        doesn't look good..

      2. FPL Blow-In
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        Actually Kane will likely be priced 12m+ so they will likely not rise as much as I first thought.

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        too high, About 9.5 each

    2. Sweetpea
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      They will be priced cautiously (too high).

    3. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 6 months ago

      10 & 10.

  7. New community tournament
    AA33
      8 years, 6 months ago

      I am thinking of setting up a new community tournament next season.

      Since this will be a season long tournament, it will be impossible to conduct unless I get some help and some new partners/organizers. I also have my final exams in August so I will definitely need help from others to set this up!

      Here's a brief outlook about it. 🙂

      There will be 24 teams with 2 Divisions (12 teams in each) with relegation and promotion. The number of teams will be modified according to the number of participants.

      Each team will work exactly like how real football teams work.

      Each team will have a group of FFS managers and there will be a captain for each team. Each team will be given the same budget to recruit the players (FFS managers). A players auction will be held with the captains where they can use the budget to buy the team players.

      After the teams are formed they will play against each other in a head to head format in a 20 team league. 3 points will be awarded for a win, and 1 point for a draw. The teams will be placed in the league according to the points accrued. There will be relegation and promotion

      Like in real football, there will be transfer windows (after the auction) where we can buy, sell and release players. Transfers will be done with the money in the budget. Since the auction is in this window, there will be no transfer dealings in this summer off season (only auction).The transfer window will start from January.

      According to the standings in the league, teams will be awarded with money in the budget, from which they can buy better players and strengthen their team. All these things will carry into the next season.

      As I said, this tournament works exactly like in real football world, with transfer deals, rumours, league matches, relegation, promotion etc.

      It might look complicated but once things get along I will make it easier for you. 🙂

      I hope it will be a thrilling league 🙂 Please, like I said, it will be impossible to set this up without the help of others. If anyone wants to be an organizer, please email me at newfantasyleague9@gmail.com. Ideally I am looking for 4 more organizers.

      Looking forward to your views 🙂

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 6 months ago

        TEAMS.. what's the criteria to be among 24 teams?
        AUCTION.. who sets the price?

        1. AA33
            8 years, 6 months ago

            Your name will be called in the auction and the captains of the respective teams can bid for you.

            My initial thought is that every player will have the same base/starting price. The captains will beforehand know the quality of the players and will accordingly up their bid. If I don't keep the same base price, I can see plenty of criticism coming up regarding this.

            1. Jigger & Pony
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 6 months ago

              If you do decide to have different base/starting prices keep it mechanical. E.g. Last 3y average OR inside Top 5k Category A. Inside Top 10k Category B..... etc.

        2. Dreams
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 6 months ago

          How will the auction take place?

          1. AA33
              8 years, 6 months ago

              The players' names will be called in the auction and the captains can then bid and recruit the players.

              1. Dreams
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 6 months ago

                Yes. But would it be real time ? Where will you do it?

                1. AA33
                    8 years, 6 months ago

                    It will be done live with the captains privately.

                    1. Dreams
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      I would like to be an organizer. But any idea how much time would I have to spend on it?

                      1. AA33
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          No idea tbh. Basically every GW we need to publish a new article and update the scores, tables.

                          1. Dreams
                            • 8 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Well I would love to help you with it. I'll think about it and send you a mail.

                      2. AA33
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Privately or on the community article comments section.

                      3. Jigger & Pony
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Good point. Will be a very long auction with 150-200 names. Perhaps you release the names and let captains indicate interest. Auction then only happens for players where multiple captains have shown interest. Other players can then just be selected at base price.

                2. AA33
                    8 years, 6 months ago

                    I posted this yesterday. Am posting it again today as there's a different crowd.

                    1. Dreams
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Read the previous one.

                  • greghammer95
                    • 16 Years
                    8 years, 6 months ago

                    Hi,

                    Just pinged you an email! Not the most regular poster but been around for years.

                  • aaaaaa
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 6 months ago

                    Would love to be a captain in this kind of tournament!!

                  • pundit of punts
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 6 months ago

                    I think you just can't do the auctions privately with the captains. That's half the fun gone.

                    You must do it live on here where people can join in for the banter.

                    Maybe a separate article for the auctions.

                    1. AA33
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Thanks! I am leaning towards what you are saying! 🙂

                        1. Dreams
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Sent you an email.

                          1. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
                            • 14 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Sent you an email. Will love to help the Community...

                    2. Geoff
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Sorry I don't think I understand 🙁
                      There are so many 'teams' and I'm not sure in what sense you are using it.

                      So: there is a captain, and he picks FFS managers for his tournament-team, and then his tournament-team gets the points that each FFS member (in his tournament-team)'s FPL-team gets?

                      'Buy, sell, and release players' - are these players FFS managers and their accompanying FPL teams?

                      Or have i read this all wrong and the captain picks managers and then they pick FPL players and it's run outside of the FPL game?

                      1. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        It's the beginning one. Not the later. Players are fpl managers. Game is within FPL and not outside of it.

                        1. Geoff
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 13 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Ah great! Can't wait for that to get started 🙂

                    3. Cheltnamshire LaLaLa
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      This is a cool idea AA33. I can imagine the transfer speculation on here being hilarious!

                      So do individual people have no choice over which team they play for? Purely which manager pays the most for their services?

                      1. AA33
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Yes (only at the start). When the transfer window opens, you can leave the team if you want. You can also notify your interest to the captain of the team you want to play.

                          More details about transfers and things related to it will be published in the community articles.

                      2. Heels_Over_Head
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Just a different perspective on this over yonder here...
                        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2017/05/30/ffs-career-hall-of-fame-updated-kouwenberg-goes-top/?hc_page=1#hc_comment_15780609

                        You really should study the FFS UEFA Council that ran for four years. That was the longest running group of folks organizing FPL tournaments for folks on FFS.
                        https://uefacouncil.wordpress.com

                      3. Speédy
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Divide players into categories depending on HoF ranking, vary base price accordingly

                    4. Huddersfield
                      RedLightning
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 15 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic (with thanks to Spencer).

                      With Huddersfield Town securing the final place in the Premier League, how do you rate their players from a fantasy perspective?

                      With former Borussia Dortmund second team coach David Wagner at the helm, his friend Jurgen Klopp (who was best man at his wedding) will surely be willing to give him with plenty of tips and advice.

                      They will be amongst the favourites for relegation, but that didn't stop us picking the likes of Pickford, Friend and Maguire last season. Which of their players will be on your watch list?

                      1. Siva Mohan
                        • 13 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        no disrespect to Huddersfield Town .. with a GD of -2, I see them going down immediately.

                      2. FPL Blow-In
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I don't see them doing well. At home they were resilient so maybe with a few decent signings I'd take a 4.5/4m def for home rotation. About it really.

                      3. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Danny Ward if he plays for them again. RB Smith. And if they sign a decent striker then maybe him.

                      4. diesel001
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Poor prospects IMO. Won't be able to buy players from the German second division and expect them to play well in the PL this season.

                      5. Jigger & Pony
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        No interest whatsoever until we see more... More interested in captaining an attacker against Huddersfield.

                      6. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        They seem to have an intelligent and knowledgeable manager ... they basically found a way to win despite their shortcomings with limited budget and dearth of top class players. I wouldn't be surprised if they adapted fairly well to the Prem.

                        1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Keeper and attacking full back perhaps .. depends on pricing and other comparable options.

                        2. SADIO SANÉ
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          agree - they look well managed - loaned well too, they might not be too bad if they improve up top

                      7. Smurf
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        My only interest is when one of my big hitters plays them so I've got a nailed on captain.

                      8. Somalion
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Some of the defensive errors they made yesterday were amateur level football. So I won't be touching defenders or keepers unless they show a vast improvement.

                        In general I have a feeling they'll be whipping boys unless they do some big business in Summer and retain all the players loaned to them for another season.

                      9. bojack
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Surely if Ward remains at the club, he's a Pickford-like option.

                      10. Je suis le chat
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I'll be looking for 2 assets every week who play Huddersfield. Should be cannon fodder.

                      11. Pirlø's Pen
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        No interest at all and I can't see that changing.

                        Reckon they'll do worse than Sunderland this year.

                      12. Mark-O
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Can't really score. Defense wise is still okay-okay... another Boro in replica.

                        1. RedLightning
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Huddersfield's defensive record in the Championship is far worse than Boro's was:

                          Huddersfield in Championship 2016/17: 12 clean sheets (6 home, 6 away), 58 goals conceded (26 home, 32 away)
                          Middlesbrough in Championship 2015/16: 22 clean sheets (15 home, 7 away), 31 goals conceded (8 home, 23 away).

                    5. Feloh
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      how many done deals so far in the pl, I know of Silva and zaba, is there any other???

                      1. dhamphiir
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Ederson to Man City

                    6. dhamphiir
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      BREAKING: @ManCity chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak rules out striker Sergio Aguero leaving the club during the summer #SSNHQ

                    7. Lovren an elevator
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Who is the most nailed Chelsea defender? I'm thinking Azpi?

                      1. UnitedFan
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I'd say him too

                    8. Les Bleus
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Anyone else never owned Alonso all season like me?

                      1. bojack
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Worse, owned him and sold the week of his brace.

                        1. Les Bleus
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Yikes. As did many though

                      2. Holmes
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Me, but I had some restrictions. Not sure whats your reason to not own him 😛

                        1. Les Bleus
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Cahill 😛

                      3. Johqvist
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Yeah he was too expensive. I got Luiz in and then Cahill later on. Served me rather well though. I'd like to think i spent the money elsewhere but that might also be me trying to convice myself I was fine without him.

                    9. bojack
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Agüero staying then.

                      1. diesel001
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        This is possible IMO. If Man City are willing to splash the cash:

                        Jesus - Aguero - Neymar

                        1. Lovren an elevator
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Poor Sané! 🙁

                    10. diesel001
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Pep being told he has to play Aguero?

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40092711

                      1. Ziro
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Mods, can you delete this and all other comments on Aguero staying at City? I would not like FPL Towers to see these comments and keep Aguero at an inflated price. He needs to come down to at least 11.5 this coming season.

                        Thanks.

                        1. UnitedFan
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          11.5 would be way too cheap. He still had a good season despite it not seeming that way. 12.5 is my guess. 12.0 is the cheapest we can expect imo

                        2. Holmes
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          11.5 will be too much for him now, 11 is enough

                    11. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      So Huddersfield pretty much a Middlesbrough mkII. They are pretty much down already. Terrible team. I can see them being relegated mathematically by around April.

                      Good whipping boys though might help with captain decisions.

                      1. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        How can you say that without the PL even starting?

                        1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          I know my football mate. Their is only so much they can strengthen.

                          1. Dreams
                            • 8 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            All I'm saying is that your scholarly predictions are way too premature.

                            1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                              • 8 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              We will see.

                          2. bojack
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Be funny if they stay up now

                        2. Nomar
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          This.

                          No one knows who they will sign or how they'll perform once the season starts. They also have a shrewd manager in Wagner who plays a pressing style like Klopp.

                          A lot will depend on whether they can sign Mooy and Schindler as they are vital to the wide press that Wagner plays.

                          Nakhi Wells is a decent striker too, will be interesting to see how he fares in the Prem.

                          The likeliest is they'll come straight back down but don't write them off before a ball is kicked.

                          1. bojack
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Good post.

                      2. Je suis le chat
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Its all about who the sign. They may just take the money and disappear.

                      3. Somalion
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Harsh on Boro, they could defend in the Championship.

                        1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Exactly remember boro signed Negredo, Rhodes, Chambers Gestede, De roon, ramirez and a whole lot more and still went down. Huddersfield are much worse and wont sigh anywhere near that.

                          1. Sims
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            "Exactly "

                            Do u even what what he is saying to you right now? Boro and hudd pretty different. Boro could defend in both leagues Huddersfield rubbish in championship too

                      4. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        This reminds me of Hull City who started off with 13 fit players but their manager still gave Palace and Swansea a run for their money.

                      5. bojack
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Looks like it but teams like Bradford and Wigan have defied the odds before.

                        Below Everton, the league isnt that brilliant.

                      6. Pirlø's Pen
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Genuinely very insulting to Boro.

                    12. Ziro
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      I hate this guy. Never in my team all season.

                      1. The Bandit
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Scummy girl killer. Should be in prison

                        1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          go back to sleep mate.

                          1. The Bandit
                            • 15 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            I'm not your mate. I doubt you have any

                            1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                              • 8 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              He was 20 at the time and it was sorted with him and family. Not excusing what he done but whats the point in bringing it up over and over?

                              1. Dreams
                                • 8 Years
                                8 years, 6 months ago

                                20 is not a young age at all. So don't even bring it up.

                                1. Lawrø
                                  • 13 Years
                                  8 years, 6 months ago

                                  Found the 20 year old!

                                  1. Dreams
                                    • 8 Years
                                    8 years, 6 months ago

                                    Who?

                        2. Dreams
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Go easy on the red bird Wildie.

                        3. Get up ya bum
                          • 16 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          ?

                          1. The Bandit
                            • 15 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Killed a girl drunk driving but basically bought himself out of a jail sentence

                            1. The Bandit
                              • 15 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              https://goo.gl/awhqG2

                            2. Get up ya bum
                              • 16 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              Oh damn. I never knew. Didn't serve any time?

                              1. The Bandit
                                • 15 Years
                                8 years, 6 months ago

                                Nope

                    13. Sims
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      .
                      "He's also got a weird relationship with money. He's on £8m a year but Arsenal's junior coaches are on £30,000. Chelsea's coaches are on £90,000.

                      "Take £7m, Arsene, and give them all a rise. It's not like he's using the money to throw lavish parties for his friends because he hasn't got none. He's only got a few guys in France. I feel a bit sorry for him."

                      Adams has turned so bitter just because wenger didn't want him as an assistant

                      1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        That is disgusting from Adams tbf.

                      2. Je suis le chat
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Feel sorry for Adams, an argument he can't win.

                      3. The Bandit
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I saw another quote from his book where he said Wenger was a poor coach. Talk about pot/kettle 😀

                      4. pompeyfan
                        • 16 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        the very idea that anyone would have any respect for anything that Adams says about football management is laughable.

                        He is a complete clown and obviously needs to make money by being a controversial kok. Won't make it managing afterall..

                    14. Parm
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      @SkySportsNewsHQ

                      BREAKING: @ChelseaFC accept £10m bid from @afcbournemouth for goalkeeper Asmir Begovic #SSNHQ

                      This could be great...

                      1. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Yes. Bournemouth to Europa league. 😎

                      2. Holmes
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Hopefully he is 4.5

                      3. Ziro
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        If he is 4.5 then straight into my team.

                        1. Parm
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Probably 5m but i'd invest in a 4.5m Bournemouth defender with him over Boruc.

                          1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            This

                          2. Gubbins94.
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Very good signing but Bournemouth's defensive problems are much deeper rooted than a keeper. New CB and more emphasis on defence from Howe needed before I'm tempted.

                      4. UnitedFan
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Great buy for them

                      5. pundit of punts
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Defoe and Begovic.

                        Proven PL quality.

                        Bournemouth doing it right.

                        1. Get up ya bum
                          • 16 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Disagree on defoe. Waste of space. They should stick to bringing in talented youngsters and developing them. It's working well.
                          Bego is a good signing.

                          1. pundit of punts
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Defoe is guaranteed goals though. They need that to survive first. then build on that with youngsters.

                          2. Gubbins94.
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Defoe makes sense given they obviously still believe in Wilson and just want a stop gap signing to avoid rushing him back.

                          3. Get up ya bum
                            • 16 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Fair points, both. Should be handy for a season.

                    15. Goal Digger2016
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Merson and Adams both a couple of gambling piss heads! who would want them round there younger players, both terrible examples..

                    16. pundit of punts
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Ederson is in the Etihad campus.

                      Announcement imminent.

                      1. UnitedFan
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        What can we expect from him? You happy with that acquisition?

                        1. pundit of punts
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          He looks good from the limited viewing of him that I've had.

                          Way better shot stopper than the ones we have. Good with the ball as well which Pep wants.

                          But to be honest I have not seen of him enough to make a proper judgement.

                          1. UnitedFan
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Fair enough, thanks

                      2. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Don't trust Pep enough after the Claudio Sanchez signing.

                    17. VS10_
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Tuchel sacked by BVB.

                      1. pundit of punts
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        WTF

                        1. Get up ya bum
                          • 16 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Lots of backroom issues between him and the bosses apparently. I read he's hard to work with.

                          Wonder who will grab him. World class manager. Dare say arsenal will be interested.

                          1. pundit of punts
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            News to me.

                            Would love to see him in PL.

                            Enrique or Tuchel at Arsenal is a no brainer atm.

                      2. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I think it's the other way around.

                        1. The Bandit
                          • 15 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          The quote below suggests otherwise

                          1. Dreams
                            • 8 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            I know but he didn't perform badly at all. So don't see why they would sack him.

                    18. Clifford☯
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Thomas Tuchel confirms He's leaving Dortmund.

                      Thomas Tuchel‏ @TTuchelofficial 31m31 minutes ago.
                      (Translated from German by Bing)
                      I am grateful for two exciting, beautiful and eventful years. It's a pity to not go on.
                      Thank you to the fans, the team, the staff and to all who have supported us. Wish all the best to the @BVB. TT

                    19. asquishypotato
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Best thing about him for me was tirning - was ill and I got Valencias clean sheet as his replacement, and got him off the bench when Erik Pieters failed to show!

                    20. The Bandit
                      • 15 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Tuchel and Wenger in job swop?

                      1. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Nope. Can't see Wenger moving.

                      2. Gubbins94.
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Why would Dortmund want Wenger

                        1. Siva Mohan
                          • 13 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          to stay in Top 4

                      3. Davido989
                        • 15 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Wonder if BVB can get Nagelsmann.

                        1. Dreams
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Doubt it.

                      4. VS10_
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Leverkusen reported, certainly a step down, but can't do much worse than this season.

                    21. Davido989
                      • 15 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40080163

                      Ederson for £33m. Loads were quick to jump at £45m.

                      1. pundit of punts
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Liking all our transfer business this summer.

                        Just hoping that the Walker deal fails.

                        1. Dr Dream
                          • 13 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Why on earth would you not want Walker?

                          1. pundit of punts
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Because I think he's bang average and he's 28. Not many years in him as well.

                            1. Dr Dream
                              • 13 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              Nah, he's brill.

                              Fortunately for us we're living at a time when the likes of City and Spurs are only interested in outscoring the opposition....and don't mind if that means conceding one or two. Kyle Walker definitely fits the bill for an attack minded side, just shut your eyes for his defensive duties...just like the rest of your "not defenders"...(well at times anyway)

                    22. JÆKS ⭐
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      When are they announcing the fixtures for next season? Is it around the same time fpl opens?

                      1. Dreams
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        No. June 14.

                        1. JÆKS ⭐
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Cheers

                    23. Siva Mohan
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Arsene Wenger and Stan Kroenke have reached agreement on 2-yr contract. Due to be ratified by board shortly. Formal announcement tomorrow.

                    24. Dr Dream
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Man United transfer rumours coming thick and fast...

                      Matuidi, Willian, Bale and Perisic top the rankings today. I wonder who it'll be tomorrow.

                      1. JÆKS ⭐
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        Bale has been on their list for the last 3 years or so. I expect a Ronaldo comeback or a Neymar move to be in the rumours again...

                        1. Dr Dream
                          • 13 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          A lot of ink saying that if Bale doesn't make the team for the final it could be the catalyst for a move.

                          1. JÆKS ⭐
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 6 months ago

                            Don't really understand why he would want to go to Manu? If I were him, I would be wanting to go back to Spurs, where it all started for him!

                            1. Dr Dream
                              • 13 Years
                              8 years, 6 months ago

                              As a northern lad I don't understand why any of them would choose to live and work in the NW of England. It'd be the bottom of my list as a young multi millionaire playboy footballer.

                      2. Siva Mohan
                        • 13 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        CR7, Chicarito, Willian, Matic

                        1. Dr Dream
                          • 13 Years
                          8 years, 6 months ago

                          Willian two days in a row?...wow...

                      3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I want Lewandowski, Griezmann, Bale, Mbappé, Steve Sidwell, Thiago, Alaba & Bonucci.

                    25. Siva Mohan
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      AC Milan are set to make a €60million bid for #Chelsea and Manchester United target Alvaro Morata. [Gazzetta dello Sport]

                      1. Moin
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        I thought him going to Milan was confirmed

                    26. Siva Mohan
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 6 months ago

                      Liverpool will complete the signing of #Chelsea's out of contract Dominic Solanke in what is expected to be a £3 million deal. [Telegraph]

                      1. pompeyfan
                        • 16 Years
                        8 years, 6 months ago

                        interesting. Looks decent enough at Vitesse, although wasn't exactly prolific. Although he was only 17 that season!