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Monday Dugout Discussion

16 January 2012 3783 comments
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League leaders Manchester City travel to the DW Stadium tonight, looking to put breathing space between themselves and their city rivals. The Dugout Discussion chatroom opens in anticipation of the conclusion of Gameweek 21.

Both team sheets have been handed in, and here is how they line-up on this horribly cold Monday night…

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Stam, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Figueroa, McArthur, McCarthy, Gomez, Crusat, Rodallega, Moses.

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Savic, Lescott, Clichy, Milner, Barry, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Roberto Martinez continues with Albert Crusat, who manages to shake off a slight back injury to start tonight. James McArthur begins for only the third time in the league this season, replacing Mohamed Diame who is unavailable thanks to the African Cup of Nations.

Manchester City are forced to partner Jolean Lescott and Stefan Savic at centre-back once more, despite a very ropey performance in their defeat to United last weekend. Elsewhere, David Silva is restored to the starting line-up, Sergio Aguero partners Edin Dzeko up front, and Pablo Zabaleta replaces Micah Richards.

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  1. AusSpur
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    Did anyone else have Dyer on their bench this week? Sooooo pissed off 🙁

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      13 years, 11 months ago

      YOU put him there though at home v a team with no backs!!

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Hindsight is a wonderful thing....

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I did but I can't complain as he came off my bench lasy week.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        *last

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Didnt learn your lesson!

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          You didn't even have him... nuff said.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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            13 years, 11 months ago

            lol yeah Dyer is a must have

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            1. 4vets
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              I think you missed the point SD. He's been great for me as a 5th mid so won't complain when he stays as a 5th mid.

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              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                'You didn’t even have him… nuff said'

                Sounds very much to me like you think he (Hutton above) should have had him. Anyway who cares, roll on the autosubs!

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                1. 4vets
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 11 months ago

                  I thought he sounded like he should have had him!
                  Anyway...

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    3. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah second on my bench. And I'm getting him on. I feel kind of guilty.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        You should do!!

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      2. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        gettin all my subs on....saying that the 2 def that didnt play wud have kept clean sheets

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      3. Blando
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Same. Win some, lose some.

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      4. Drama82
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Third on my bench ... I'll take it :p

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    4. Woga
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      not to worry, happens to me everyu week. That's fantasy managment, > you pick your first 11. So in hindsight, bad managment

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Nah.... play the averages. No-one in their right mind would have played Dyer against Arse unless their team was crap in the first place.

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        1. Oliver Reed
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          thats why i got rid of dyer, never played him..

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            and you got rid of the angst. Well not played 😉

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  2. Michael
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    Who should I replace Yakubu and Adebeyor with for a 2 week punt until I wildcard in gameweek 24?

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Fletcher and crouch/struidge/torress/

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Fletcher and Crouch?

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      1. Michael
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Fletcher and Crouch isn't very glamorous sounding but it could pay off! Considering Sturridge, could even be a captain shout at Norwich in a sticky gameweek

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    3. Woga
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      13 years, 11 months ago

      i hope you have 2 ft's otherwise wc now, look at the fixtures, , Go with pool and Chelsea

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      1. Michael
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        13 years, 11 months ago

        Keen to hold on to my wildcard, don't want to play it in a week where all the big teams are facing each other. There doesn't seem to be many strikers with 2 easy fixtures in gw's 23 and 23 .... Liverpool don't have a striker and Chelsea have Swansea away.........almost tempted to keep Ade for Wigan and maybe just get Helguson for Yak

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  3. charliesam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Does playing the Wildcard wipe out any points deductions incurred in the same week? Thanks

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

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    2. Perthite
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yes.

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  4. charliesam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Thanks Bebop.

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      you're welcome

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  5. Ranieri's Ghost
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    Who would u prefer next few weeks?

    A. Aguero/valencia/bale
    Or
    B. lampard/sturridge/VDV

    Am leaning towards b, but expect FFS people might disagree?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I think you're right about FFS people disagreeing. I prefer A by some margin

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        +1 but what do we know

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      A

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    3. zan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      A. Aguero/valencia/bale

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    4. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      A

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  6. Samwise the Brave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    I'm off to bed everyone see u all another night, proberly 2moro :).

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      night bro

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  7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    what do you think of putting bale on bench v man city?

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      madness

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Risky, especially as hell be against either Zabaletta, or a just returning from injury, Richards

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  8. Simon March
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    I was tempted by Valencia & Graham, but now I'm thinking Fletcher & Walters. The best rotation of the latter would provide: WBA, LIV, SUN, WBA, SWA, NOR, BLA. In the meantime, both Swansea an Man Utd have pretty tough fixtures. F & W seem to be the sensible option, but it feels wrong going without Man Utd attacking coverage...

    What would you say is the best option?

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I was just looking at this myself. The only caveat is when I would've played Fletcher in games such as STK, NOR he returned 2 points each and his nice scores have come in games where I would've benched him. Rotation only works if the players deliver at the desired times.

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      1. Simon March
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah I noticed that too - the positive I suppose is that 4/7 of the fixtures I'd go Walters. The possible alternative could be Walters / Graham:

        WBA, CHE, SUN, NOR, SWA, NOR, and 1.3m saved...

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        1. Chazza
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Nice rotation, not for me though (probably even after WC) as I've tripled up on the Swansea defence!

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  9. Jafalad
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    Nasri looking good for 2 bps: 6/6 crosses and 5 key passes. http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/506419/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2011-2012-Wigan-Manchester-City

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      And he still looked useless 😉

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      1. Jafalad
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Think he's suffered from bench rot to be fair 😕

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          That ol' chestnut 😉

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        2. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          He wanted money for watching Silva play - and he got it.

          No sympathy for him. Little snood-wearing, gloved Frenchie ...

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      hope he edges silva, would be lovely

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    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      did anyone watch the game here? because it is obvious silva was the best player on the park, everything good went through him. To say nasri had 6/6 crosses and 5 key passes is hilarious

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      1. Jafalad
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        ...and also fact. Sadly, such "facts" rule the day when it comes the boni. 😕

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Not to worry, we all know the score now so onwards and upwards! 🙂

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  10. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    This season is becoming a nightmare....
    When a "big" team is expected to score big against a lower team, they dont
    When they play each other they score big when you least expect it
    Sooooo many injuries without warning
    So much rotation
    Other than Rooney and Aguero early for a few weeks amd RVP for 10 weeks nobody has scored very big scores and consistently

    It is fun, but I just cant seem to get anywhere
    I tried playing fixtures, didnt work, then tried form, and anyone i buy immediately loses it

    WC this week looking good, but just know that it will fail!

    Looking forward to the Euro Championship FF

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Urgh looks like a shocking week to use a WC to me

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        It is, but team was awful. Wanted to wait till 23.
        relying on mid placed teams big time

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Reminds oneself to look at one's Champ's League team tomorrow, as if it'll make any difference!

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      1. Woga
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Cham's league is no good prize wise, Europa Cup. has a car? and I want that. :O)

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        1. Woga
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          and I may win it.

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        2. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Car, amazing.
          A better prize than actually winning the Europa league!!

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            I won't win it so I'll just enjot the game 🙂

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    3. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Empathise with your frustrations. I think most are fairly frustrated by the form not working out. Keep on backing yourself - class will out in the end though 😉

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  11. boc610
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    sessignon captain for gw22??

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    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I'm in

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    2. Woga
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      did you see the game this week? beautiful play from Sess, but McClean is playing so forward, you may call him a striker, May get an assist frm Sess. So no for cpt

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    3. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Sooooo tempted. However, Aggy opens another door...:?

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      1. Ryan
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        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Aggy? not Agbonlahor is it?

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        1. Jafalad
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Aguero 😉

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            haha I was getting worried for you there 😉

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    4. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Sturridge for me

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    5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Too many other threats i think. Larsson, McLean, Bendy, Richardson, Vaughan and Gardner are all capable of stealing his thunder (and points!)

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Bendtner is more likely to steal the thunder than the points in fairness 😉

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  12. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Finally...FINALLY the week has come that my ML rivals suffer from having bloody Shane Ferguson in their squads.

    I, on the other hand, will gladly be benefiting from Nathan Dyers introduction from the bench second week a row.

    Thats all.

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  13. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Stoked Rooney has kept his assists. Well and truly confirmed now

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      +1

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    2. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I think the lack of clarity in both cases created too much doubt so the assists were left in.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Yep benefit of the doubt to Rooney

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Its not over yet. Tomorrow morning is crunch time

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Its over mate. Official from FPL http://fantasy.premierleague.com/the-scout/

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            1. HuttonDressedasLahm
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Thats FU*&NG BU^%$HIT!!!

              One rule for RVP one for Rooney
              So for the Scholes goal they could see no definite touch from Welbeck, yet for the Welbeck goal managed to see a definite touch (imagined) from Rooney after Wheater clearly played it through!

              BOL&^%KS!!!!

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          2. The Pooer
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Confirmed on site. Scandal. First one is clearly welbeck's. You can see the ball slow down after the touch.

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              1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                the second is even clearer

                Opta need to change their stats then!!

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              2. Kagawa-san-mia
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                disagree

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              3. Random_Guy
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                Agreed.

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        2. Fitzy.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          As correctly predicted by you yesterday Jafa... 🙂

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    3. General_Shitface
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I'm taking chance with Torres for the next couple of weeks. Might come good. Vorm, Clichy, Woodgate, Simpson, Bale, Silva, Sessegnon, Walters, Torres, RVP, Aguero

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      1. General_Shitface
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Subs: Mignolet, Dyer, Cahill, Taylor (SWA)

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    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      League tables are currently being re-calculated. The table below may still contain old data.

      Hate that sentence..

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        They also may contain made up assists!

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    5. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Is anyone else joining me on getting Lampard and captaining him?

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        no chance

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      2. Kagawa-san-mia
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        how bout gerrard

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      3. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I got him in for VDV and will Capt him for norwich.

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    6. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Ade & Jones > Aguero & Kelly was my initial plan for next week

      Probably going through with it, but not sure Aguero is the best two-week punt before my WC. I can't afford Rooney, and as I already own Sturridge, Torres isn't an option. Not really tempted by anything else to be honest.

      Another option is to bench Ade and keep him for the Wigan game. In that case, I'm considering (ant-knee-jerk warning!) Dyer & Jones > Sessegnon & Senderos.

      Any advice is highly appreciated!

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      1. Canadian Football
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        LOL see below similar dilema.

        I like option #2. Wait on Dyer > Sess hopfully for you Dyer will rise before weekend.

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    7. Canadian Football
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Forced into WC this week.

      I was planning on having Agruero is for good run of fixtures. However, his fixtures are TOT (H) EVE (A)
      Is anyone considering Torres (seeng that he went back to school to learn how to finish this week) for the next 2 GW's? Is it nonsense to have both CHE strikers? Is it nonsense to have Torres?

      My WC is

      Mingolet/Ruddy
      Richards/ Raylor/Senderos/Naylor/Shotton
      Bale/Dempsey/Silva/Sess/Moses
      RVP/Sturridge/_____????

      I can't believe i am even thinking of this in the first place. I once vowed never to have Torres in my team, now here i am actually thinking of it.....

      Thoughts????

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Who knows, I think it is perfectly fine doubling up on Chelsea strikers at least for the Norwich game, but probably a bit too much with Swansea in there as well..

        What is the budget for your third striker?

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        1. Canadian Football
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Have 12M.....i can get rooney but would have to adjust by Def.

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Don't do this to me.... I'm off to bed now!

        Night all.

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        1. Woga
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          do you need counceling? :O)

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    8. Rivaldo
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Auto-subs completed.

      Goodbye Richards.

      Hello Dyer 😀 😀

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Nice

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      2. Woga
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        aye can see the avg going down tonight, a lot of subs hitting the first 11

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    9. Jafalad
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Right...off to plot how I'm going to thrash Salma Hayek in the L5.

      Laterz. 😉

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    10. Bareth Garry
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Jags, Nani and Jones to fall tonight?

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I doubt Jags will, but Nani = defo and Jones = most likely

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      2. Canadian Football
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Jags @ - 101 on Fiso.....should fall.
        Nani and Jones Defo

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        1. Canadian Football
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          However given the "United Conspiracy" this week who knows!!!!!

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    11. Woga
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      So, have to say, Always cpt RVP. I relieved him of the cpt d this week, So from now on, nailed on, that is until , I take it away and allocate to Dzeko

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    12. dfroes
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Do you advise me to play my wilcard already today or should i leave until friday?

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Play it as early as possible to take advantage of price rises/drops imo

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      2. The Pooer
          13 years, 11 months ago

          If yours gonna play it, use it early and get in the players rising in price, then finalise Friday eve/Sat morning

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          1. dfroes
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            how can i finalise friday/sat morning? imagina i play my wc today.. the subs i do like friday evening wont count as within wc wil they?

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        • SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          This is a shocking week to use it IMO. Just hold tight

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        • Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Do it now if you need it this week, but I think this is a bad week to wildcard so only do it if your team is really stumped. Like mine 🙂

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Using it now? I have 2 free's at least but it looks a tough week to score well. Don't want a red arrow with your WC though, that would be a nightmare!

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      3. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Jammy substitutions of the bench FTW! Dyer 13pts means I am through to the 5th round of the FPL cup. Nice to get a bit of luck for the first time in a while.

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      4. Fancy Feet
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        lol looks like Man City defenders love to almost reach 100 % to rise and then doing something to cause a mass sale

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      5. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Just activated wc

        Sorensen. Vorm
        Komp. Enrique. Ekotto. Simp. Naylor
        Silva. Bale. Sess. Valancia. Dyer
        Rvp. Auguro. Sturridge

        Thoughts?

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          T much citeh, and only one (maybe 2) pen taker in the first 11, try again.

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          1. Milkman
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Yer not sure Silva AND Aguero are needed. Might be a bit of overkill.

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        2. Milkman
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I like. But Spurs defender?

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          1. super zlatan
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            May as well keep as he is due a rise. Nice fixture nxt week. Can still tinker with my team.

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        3. Woga
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          activate again,, 2 weeks without Kompany? You need Krul , get rid of Vorm,, no need for Bae going forward, fixtures are though. I am selling Bae .Look at next 2 weeks, prepere your team,. Then you have 2 fts, to adjust

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      6. Xabi
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Right chaps, here's my main decision to be made next game week: Silva and Ade or Valencia and Aguero?

        Tough one this.,

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      7. Milkman
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        So what is going on with Sturridge. Been lucky with Dyer taking his place last few weeks.

        Lots of love for him still though.

        Will he play soon? Any thoughts?

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      8. nazrijack
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Given
        Simpson Enrique Shotton
        Bale Sess(c) Silva Dyer
        Roonpig Rvp Sturridge

        Sub: Vorm Gabbidon BAE Ben Arfa

        Am i choose the right starting lineup? Captain decision could be vital this Gameweek..

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        1. Xabi
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Anyone that (c) sess deserves to be burnt when you have big players like RVP in your team playing at home against a utd team leaking goals.,

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          1. Eoin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            - 1.

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      9. dfroes
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Imagine i play my wc today... if i do subs like friday evening they will count as withing my wildcard or will i loose points?

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        1. Milkman
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          No, any transfers you make till the deadline are free. Whatever day. No matter how many.

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          1. dfroes
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            thanks

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            1. Xabi
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Upto 2000, otherwise you need to write a letter specifying any further transfers in that game week. True story.

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