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13 December 2017 5292 comments
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After Eden Hazard failed to deliver in Chelsea’s 3-1 win over Huddersfield, eight of the top ten captains in Fantasy Premier League are set to feature over this evening’s seven matches.

All eyes are on Harry Kane as Spurs welcome Brighton to Wembley Stadium – after a weekend home brace against Stoke, he’s the top armband pick for Gameweek 17, with 25.2% of managers handing him the captaincy – his biggest majority of the season so far.

Mohamed Salah is second only to Kane, with 17.8% backing after serving up seven sets of double-digits. Philippe Coutinho and Roberto Firmino are also back on the Liverpool team-sheet, though, after featuring as subs against Everton.

The latter was second only to Kane for transfers in ahead of Tuesday’s deadline – over 197,000 acquired Firmino in the rush to replaced the stricken Alvaro Morata.

Romelu Lukaku, Sergio Aguero and Alexis Sanchez will be hoping that history repeats itself this evening.

Lukaku is toiling for form right now, with a single goal in nine Gameweeks, but scored four at home to tonight’s visitors Bournemouth while at Everton last season.

Aguero, meanwhile, netted twice in Man City’s win at Swansea in 2016/17 – he returns to Pep Guardiola’s XI as Gabriel Jesus takes up bench-warming duties.

Sanchez heads to West Ham, where he ran riot on his way to three goals and an assist in the previous campaign.

Elsewhere, Charlie Austin and Dominic Calvert-Lewin were both subject to significant transfers in ahead of Gameweek 17, with 156,00+ and 172,000+ new owners respectively.

Both have the fixtures to strengthen their claims as budget third strikers.

Austin – with four goals in three starts – hosts a Leicester defence with one away shutout to their name.

Ranked top for points per million, Calvert-Lewin has a goal and three assists in the last four Gameweeks and visits a Newcastle defence that’s conceded an average of three goals per game over their previous five league fixtures.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney or Calvert Lewin?

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Need to shift Abraham ASAP

    2. Gerd Mueller’s thighs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Took them both, tired of Kane, etal

    3. HashAttack
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      well I have both and felt that I had to play Rooney ahead of DCL

    4. Spurred_On
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I was asking the same question... I'm heading towards DCL myself

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney. There's a massive bias against him but he's scored 9 goals now in a struggling Everton team.

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        5.3 though is mighty tempting, and a more suitable price for a third striker. Lewin plus 2.5M to spend elsewhere might be money better spent?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          5.3m for a non-scoring striker? I'd rather have Okazaki at 5.4m.

  2. Gerd Mueller’s thighs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Of all the ill-fated moves this week, Forster to Courtois was the worst.

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Do you mean Foster?

  3. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Chucked a few payers in my draft team I thought might have a shout this week. William, TAA & Aurier. 38 points between the 3 of them 😆

  4. Woy_is_back
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Sane to Silva?

    1. jia you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Silva is class, in such good from atm and I don't see Pep breaking up that KDB/Silva partnership anytime soon! Saving FT this weekend and than I think Sane is bye bye!!

      1. Woy_is_back
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah maybe wait one GW cause Sane should start this weekend.

        1. jia you
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Yep, saving and will make 3 transfers for -4 afterwards

    2. Afghanistanislas
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Yep I'm probably doing that the GW after next, getting rid of Silva a few weeks ago has cost me big time

      1. jia you
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Many of us on here have been fooled into thinking that he's not a great option, not explosive etc. He's a fantastic option at his price and not nearly as prone to rotation as Sane & Sterling!

  5. +
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Considering the following:

    Mane, Richarlison, Quaner > Coutinho, Silva, DCL (-8)

    Perhaps worth staggering over two GWs?

    1. Zebras
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'm considering -8 to do
      Mbemba Young Morata > long Silva Rooney

      Will get me this team for the long run
      DDG Elliott
      Alonso Ota mee long Kenny
      Hazard Sterling Silva rlc salah
      Kane Rooney niasse

      Feel it's worth the hit for the the weekends returns plus gives me better coverage for injuries

  6. Point-one short
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Ward to Jones for free?

    Also have morata and richarlison...

    1. Point-one short
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      0.7itb

    2. vartshk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Do it

      1. Point-one short
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

        1. vartshk
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Sometimes you just need a nudge to jump!

          1. Point-one short
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Heh, true. Have pope so kept benching ward anyway, and now their fixtures are turning so probably best to cash out even if ward's only out for a gw or two.

            Quite happy with my defence now.

            Otamendi, Christensen, Jones, Naughton, Dunk

  7. Pierce34
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    So then - it was Hazard that was the best captain option out of the big hitters! 😀

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Aguero/Lukaku?

      1. Pierce34
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I meant the big Salah/Kane dilemma.

        Aguero and Lukaku - well, 6 and 5 points respectively are hardly hauls. Only a couple of points better off than my Salah captain.

    2. Pierce34
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Never mind, just saw Salah played as well. 3 all then!

    3. jia you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Haha your Salah anxiety was all in vain mate 😉

      1. Pierce34
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Lol yeah. I was actually out and didn't check the scores or lineups until now, and was fearing the worst - 17 points for Kane and a 1 point cameo from Salah 😀

        1. jia you
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          let's move on, I don't want to talk about this GW haha

          1. Pierce34
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Yep, luckily there's another one just round the corner. So how many hits for you mate? 😉

            1. jia you
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Saving, then will do three transfers for a -4 afterwards more than likely!
              My squad is not in a happy place:
              Injury concerns: Ward, Morata, Rich
              Want rid of: Niasse, Sane, Alli, Daniels

              1. Pierce34
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Yeah, similar position with Lowton and Richarlison injury doubts for me (and Mbemba permanently out of the team).

                And I finally want Jesus out, and Daniels of course. Tricky. Might save only because I don't know what to do next!

                Sane at least should start for you.

                1. jia you
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Hopefully both Sane and Alli should start in that game, hoping for a 4-4 draw 😉

                  1. Pierce34
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Haha. Well I've got Otamendi now so not sure what I should be hoping for. Something like 4-2 to City with Jesus, Sterling and Otamendi goals and a Kane brace 😉

    4. HashAttack
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Coutnino (C) for me ... really 3 points is looking like a fantastic captain score ... if only my captain could score so many points each week

  8. Liastro ⭐️
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Any ideas with 2FTs? Really stuck this week. 0.6m in the bank...

    Foster Elliot
    Otamendi Tarkowski Femenia Naughton Mbemba
    Salah Alli Sterling Richarlison RLC
    Kane Morata Wilson

    1. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Surely upgrade Foster, rid of Wilson maybe aswell

  9. Visionaries
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Need to sort my defence out.

    Otamendi, Kaba, Mee, Mbemba, Naughton*

    Naughton >
    A Dunk/Duffy - 0.3/0.1 itb
    B Gomez - 0 itb
    C Kenny - 0.3 itb
    D Holgate - 0.5 itb

    1. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Kenny

  10. smix
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Is David Silva expected to start this week ?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      yes

  11. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Is Coutinho and Son ➡ Sterling and Silva too knee jerky?

    1. Magic Bean
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Why get rid of Son?

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        idk to be honest. Just done with this season, seems like the City boys are more set and forget

    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      😆

    3. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Why get rid of Coutinho?

    4. Visionaries
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Getting rid of Coutinho?

    5. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      The very definition of too jerky

    6. More Tragic
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'd keep Son and lose Coutinho

    7. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      too kneejerky it is. Cheers everyone

  12. Maddi Son
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Okazaki's goals to minute ratio is actually pretty good. It's a shame he doesn't get more game time.

    You recon after tonights performance he will start more games?

  13. jdp219
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    SMH
    Entered this with an OR of 200k. Lost in the first round of the FPL Cup to someone ranked 3.3M. I know it doesn't mean much, but it certainly underscores this trainwreck of a gw17.
    Still in my #1 in my ML... for now. So I got that goin' for me.

    1. jdp219
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      And got steamrolled by last place in my H2H league. Hasn't touched his team all year and just happened to have double Arsenal defense.

      I need a drink.

  14. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Repost sorry

    Hey guys, need help, got 2FT:

    Elliot, Pope
    Azpi,Monreal,Otamendi,Kiko,Rangel
    Coutinho,Salah,Sterling,Groß,RLC
    Firmino,Kane,Niasse

    Think I'm doing Kane+Groß-->Rooney+Sanchez. Would you do Azpi to Christensen for a hit too cuz Christensen is rising tonight:/

  15. I Have No Idea What I'…
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Is Abraham, Daniels & Bertrand to Jones, Christensen and Okazaki worth a -4?

    1. Tabbara
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      not okazaki

  16. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    FPL is making me not enjoy watching football anymore. I think I'm going to cool down a bit from it all, ill still play and make transfers but I don't know if trying so hard to do well is helping.. Im currently 760K and I just keep spending so much time on decisions only for them to fail.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      We've all been there. Try and get some perspective about the amount of luck involved and that will help your mood when it doesn't go well. You may still feel grumpy/angry for a little while but it should then pass.

      Look at Foster this GW... CS and max bonus at Anfield. I'm sure there were thousands that transferred him out or benched him before that game.

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Put it like this. Every week I spend so much time trying to decide my captain. My highest points from a captain has been Kane at home to West Brom who got 8 points. I've played the game since 2009 and I feel like in recent years when I've been a 'casual', I not only enjoyed the game more but I made decisions and then didn't think about them until after the games. Now I spend so much time making decisions and if they don't go well, the disappointment is huge. This is why as I said I think it's best to cool down for a bit or maybe permanently for me as I don't think spending time making decisions is helping.

        Thank you for your comment though and I definitely see where you're coming from.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          The more time you invest, the more disappointment you'll feel when you don't get the rewards.

          I'm not judging as I check this site most days. But when it stops being fun, then you (we) need to fill that time with something more productive and rewarding. You may even find your FPL performance improves because you'll go with your first instinct.

          1. Qaiss
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Exactly. That's what I've done in recent years and that's probably why I enjoyed the game more back then.

    2. james 101
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      You just need to focus on your woman mate.

      (Or get one if that's not a current option)

      1. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Very true mate. Forget FPL.

        1. james 101
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Right

          A nice girl / good woman will put all this crap in perspective easy enough.

          1. james 101
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            I mean, or a bad girl / woman.

            We are all a work in progress...

            1. Qaiss
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              What would be your recommendation?

  17. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Masuaku or Kenny? Have Pickford

    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Mas. Double GW coming up. Spread the risk

  18. jia you
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    If I hadn't much more pressing issues I'd love to do this super sideways move:
    Sane + Alli to Silva + Son

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Those aren't sideways moves given form, those are upgrades

  19. We Will Klopp you
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Ward itch to scratch, trying to find the best way to do it. Better move of these?

    A) Kola and Ward to Jones and Smalling -4 (currently have no United defensive cover)

    B) Ward to Masuaku after the pressers as planned.

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B for sure

    2. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Yep B

    3. Rik Waller
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Kola got Newcastle home next, right? Could haul.

    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers guys

  20. james 101
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    3rd attempt!

    Good to go / is this set up right?

    DDG.
    Otamendi. Mee. Mariappa.
    Hazard (c). Salah. Sterling. KDB. Coutinho (vc).
    Kane. DCL.

    Elliot. Naisse. Long. Duffy.

    Thanks!!

    1. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Yes! Gtg

      1. james 101
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers!!

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      blimey, whats your TV?

    3. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lovely. WC?

  21. Tabbara
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Suggestions

    Speroni Pickford
    Mee Alonso Kiko Duffy Lowton
    Sterling Richarlison Hazard Salah RLC
    Morata DCL Kane

    Thank you

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lowton or Kiko to Masuaku

      1. Tabbara
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Would you fancy Otamendi and christenson for Alonso and Lowton(-4)?

        1. We Will Klopp you
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Yes, but wait a week if you can. Ota is unlikely to keep a clean sheet v Spurs

          1. Tabbara
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            thinking of saving a ft this week and do it.Alonso is great but ota+Christensen is better than Alonso+4.5

            1. We Will Klopp you
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              I would agree with that

              1. Tabbara
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                thx

    2. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Nothing really pressing
      Alonso to Jones maybe?

  22. jdp219
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    All right, moving on... Anything to do with this squad? Honestly have no idea right now.

    Fab, Elliot
    Azpi, Ota, Mustafi, Ward, Duffy
    Salah, Hazard, Sane, Richa, RLC
    Niasse, Kane, Austin

    Concerns: Mustafi, Ward, Richarlison, Niasse, Elliot

  23. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Bench one:
    A) Mee (bha)
    B) Kenny (SWA)
    C) Ogbonna (stk)
    D) Kabasele (HUD)

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      C

    2. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      C/D maybe tough call

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      D

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Probably D given Watford's form/luck at the minute. I'd bench C though.

    5. Dannyb
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Toss a coin

    6. Francescoli
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Currently benching Ogbonna. Tough call as you guys mention. Watford at home surely a good bet to keep a clean sheet I would have thought?

  24. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    I guess Niasse owners are in a bit of a quandry??

    1. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      DCL owner?

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Not yet, dont own any Everton but keen to pik one up

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hardly, will move him on for another bench option in time

  25. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Fast, pick one before the price change, ty:

    A) Kane+Groß--->Rooney+Sanchez
    B) Azpi+Niasse--->Christen+Rooney

    Bonus question: Would you do Azpi to Christensen for a hot this week to catch price rise ty:)

    1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      For a hit*

    2. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. GOTHAM City F.C.
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

      Yes

  26. stamboy
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    How long before price changes?

    1. waldo666
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Now

    2. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Incoming.

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Too late

  27. El Lobito 10
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Any changes to this lot?

    DDG (Eliot)
    Jones Christensen Kenny (Mee, Mbemba)
    Salah Coutinho Hazard Doucoure (RLC)
    Kane Lukaku Niasse

    Thanks 🙂

  28. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    No risers

    1. FFPro
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Any fallers?

  29. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    3 important fallers.

  30. stamboy
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Teams most likely to get CS this week?

    Is Managla too short a stop gap for -4?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      -4 against Spurs. Uhhh