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Dugout Discussion – Chelsea vs West Brom

Gameweek 27 concludes under the lights of Stamford Bridge for what looks to be a crucial encounter for both Chelsea and West Brom, for all kinds of reasons.

Antonio Conte’s tenure with the champions looks to be precarious at best following successive heavy defeats to Bournemouth and Watford. Another setback tonight would likely seal his fate.

Like Conte, Fantasy managers will be hoping for a reaction and a revival from the Blues.

However, we won’t benefit from returns from Marcos Alonso. The most sold Fantasy Premier League (FPL) player ahead of Saturday’s deadline he remains in 1.3 million squads but misses out once again having sat out the defeat at Watford through “fatigue”. Conte has confirmed that a twisted ankle suffered in training is to blame for his latest absence.

Meanwhile, Eden Hazard remains an erratic but potentially powerful differential. Owned by just 474,000 managers, he has the talent to deliver big against the bottom club.

He is backed with 119,000+ captaincies, including seven of the top 100 managers prior to Saturday’s deadline.

Just two of his nine goals have arrived on home turf this season – both scored against Newcastle in Gameweek 15. He did, however, score his season-high 18-point total against West Brom in the reverse fixture in Gameweek 12.

Olivier Giroud might just be vital to the Belgian’s prospects. He makes his full debut tonight, leading the Chelsea attack with Hazard deployed as one of a supporting two – Pedro also flanks the former Arsenal striker.

The weekend could not have been more troublesome for West Brom; they now find themselves seven points adrift and challenged to come away from West London with some reward. Plenty of Fantasy managers will be hoping that they are denied.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. waldo666
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Damn early sellers, losing value on Lingard and Alonso is a bitter pill to swallow even if I fully understand that the ramifications of going early could prove much more costly.

    1. Zladan
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      He has to lose 0.2m for you to lose 0.1m. So would take some amount of transfers out to lose significant value.

      1. Lemongrab
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Pretty sure you lose the exact vale if they drop?

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          After it drops past the price you paid.

      2. waldo666
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I wish mate, I lose 0.1 on each of them next drop they have (which looks like today).

        1. Zladan
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          I also lose on Alonso tonight so sold.

    2. Lemongrab
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      It really is irritating. Would love to wait but going to have to gamble and get rid tonight I think

      1. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I’d say that you’ve built up the money over the season, probably taking some risks along the way, so you could use it now without having to worry about it. Let them drop.

    3. Jayv807
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Glad I can absorb Alonso’s drop with no SV implication. Transfers should slow down drastically after today

    4. Yozzer
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      But you have Alonso they dont. Only one winner in The long run. People have short memories in fpl

    5. Majestic Chanka
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I don’t subscribe to the “value doesn’t matter brigade” but at this point losing 0.1m sell value isn’t too bad. Especially someone I really want to keep like Alonso!

      Buying someone late for 0.2m more is the annoying part of early transfers.

    6. Majestic Chanka
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      That said you can probably chuck Lingard now!

    7. Regin
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      none of u know how to play fpl. Worried about 0.1m. When u should be thinking about points, captaincy choice, form, fixtures...

      1. waldo666
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Link your team so we can all see how it's done.

  2. Lemongrab
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Alonso dropping tonight. Thanks for the double zero and goodbye

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      You taking him out tonight?

      1. Zladan
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Depends if the 0.1m will make you lose 0.1m on selling value.

        In my case I had to. Need all the 0.1m I can get.

      2. Lemongrab
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I'd like to wait and see but not swallowing a price fall on top of two disappointing weeks

        1. Zladan
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Unfavourable fixtures too. Worth investing elsewhere now.

          Reinvest when his price falls further and fixtures turn for the better later on.

    2. Zladan
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Me too. Robertson in for me. Done.

      1. Football Rambler
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Reckon he is nailed?

        1. Zladan
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Fairly confident. Moreno might get cup runs. But Robertson has been undroppable in the league.

          Very threatening going forward. Spends as much time in the opposition box as Alonso, except Alonso hit free kicks too.

          Great value.

          1. Football Rambler
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Not tempted by TAA + 0.5m?

            That would allow me to do Choupo to Mahrez!

            1. Zladan
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              TAA not so nailed with Gomez coming back.

              1. Lemongrab
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Robertson over vvd?

                1. Zladan
                  • 6 Years
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  Yeah, that was a toss up. But in my eyes Robertson is as nailed.

                  He’s considerably cheaper and we’ll overdue attacking returns.

                  1. Ibracadabra
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 2 months ago

                    I am thinking of Courtois -> Karius depending on FA Cup results. Other keeper is Foster. If West Brom blank in 31, I will likely make the free transfer this week.

            2. Zladan
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              I genuinely think Mahrez performed out his skin for interest for a transfer.

              I expect him to huff his way out now.

              Maybe I’m too sceptical and a conspiracist.

              1. Football Rambler
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                He needs to put himself in the window now more than ever. Any potential suitors will be watching to see how he reacts...

  3. Football Rambler
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Keep or sell Hazard after that? Was all set to ditch but now not so sure...

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      See what Mark does.

    2. That Was Easy!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I captained him and am selling as I can’t imagine he’ll provide value as a non-captain over the next 2. I’m going Alli most likely as I think Spurs will bang them in over the next 3.

      1. Football Rambler
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        He was outrageously good tonight. And has been really since he went back to not being false 9.

        None of the people I'm trying to catch have him so he could be a solid differential

        1. That Was Easy!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Same here, however my moves are going to be Haz + Depoitre > Alli + Firmino as I don’t think Firmino can be ignored anymore.

      2. Drogba Legend
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Hi Coop

    3. Yozzer
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      He's a total punt every game. He won't play the garbage he played tonight every week

    4. Ibracadabra
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Keep him, world class, but be prepared for 2-2-12, or 2-12-2, etc.

  4. UpAndAway
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    What are we likely to lose on Alonso from a value point of view if we wait to make a transfer until after FA Cup weekend?

    I'm reluctant to make the move now.

    1. That Was Easy!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Many are selling but I’d recommend holding as injuries/etc could affect you a whole lot more than value loss.

    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Up to 0.3 price drop.

    3. Zladan
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      if last weeks fall didn’t lose his selling value, then this weeks will.

      Exodus should continue due to unfavourable fixtures, so can buy back when fixtures are better at cheaper price.

  5. That Was Easy!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    All set for the next week?

    Foster
    Jones Otamendi Mee
    Salah (C) Alli Sterling Shaqiri
    Kane Firmino Wilson

    Elliot; Lingard, Chilwell, Ogbonna

    Do I start Chilwell over Jones or Otamendi? Lingard over anyone?.

    1. Totti
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      no play otamendi and jones

  6. Totti
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    pope (elliot)
    otamendi jones ogbonna francis ( 3.9 )
    hazard salah sterling lingard milivojevic
    kane aguero wilson

    2 FT 0 itb

    A) hazard lingard wilson -> mehrez ibe firmino (-4)
    B) jones to VVD
    C) other suggestion

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Why don't you just say you have Hazard?

      1. Totti
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        sorry?

    2. That Was Easy!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I’m doing Haz and Depoitre > Alli and Firmino. Think maybe Haz + Ota > Eriksen + VVD?

      1. Totti
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        otamendi or jones?

    3. Yozzer
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      A is a solid long term move

  7. BON
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Pope • Adrián
    Vertonghen • van Dijk • Naughton • Daniels • Hegazi
    Hazard • Salah • De Bruyne • Milivojevic • Ibe
    Kane • Agüero • Niasse

    I love creating teams I can afford but can't obtain unless wildcarding.

  8. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Holding on to the chips better be worth it.

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      They will be cold if you don't eat them soon.

    2. BobBradleysOpportunity
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      has there been a week where you were considering a chip actually have been a good time to use the chip? I've considered using free hit twice, and both would have backfired

  9. Our Tiny Windows
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    I FINALLY cleared 100 points. Feel like I’m finally getting hold of this game. Only took 2 and a half years...

    1. AzzaroMax99
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I had 103 (-8) in my first season 😀

    2. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Well done, great score

      1. Our Tiny Windows
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks. 198.

  10. GE
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Alonso out tonight or wait?

    1. Totti
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      out to VVD

    2. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      It's so tempting to ship him now but holding is the smart play.

      1. GE
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Thinking the same, but really tempted 😉 Problem is that you want to need then already now How to use the money from Alonso and a lot can happen in between

  11. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Is anyone considering Karius (£4.8m) as a route into Pool def? More nailed than Rob and cheaper than VVD

    1. BobBradleysOpportunity
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      absolutely, awaiting heaton's return and then guna go pope to karius

      1. BobBradleysOpportunity
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        maybe not guaranteed, but strongly considering haha

    2. TallestJohn
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Could definitely be good value but I'm happy with Fabianski until GW31 so will probably go VVD.

  12. HD7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    so not Ota but Alonso to VVD is the mainstream now? okay then

    1. Numb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      You don't have to do what everyone else is doing

    2. Yozzer
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Madness isn't it. Be a leader not a follower my man. Do what you feel is right

  13. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    The beauty of Alonso being the most expensive defender in times like these is that even if he drops in value, you can still afford anybody else.

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Exactly. People still chasing that £££

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yes but if you sell him for less, you have less money to spend on someone else...

      I don't think people are worried about his price due to a direct transfer to another defender haha

  14. AzzaroMax99
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Alonso+Dunk->VVD+Vertonghen (-4) looking good?
    Nevermind if Vert blanks in gw31. They look good now and Spurs have 3 solid fixtures.
    I will wait until weekend but what are your opinions?

  15. Jebiga
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    alonso and gomez to vvd and verhongen make sense for free ?
    or gomez will play next game ?

  16. FF Dirtbag
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Think I'm going to do:
    Alonso - > VVD for my FT.

    For a hit:
    A) Loftus-cheek to 6.6 mill mid
    Or
    B) lingard to 8.3 mill mid?

    Team at the moment:
    Courtois Elliot
    Alonso Jones Duffy Kenny Masuaku
    Salah Sterling Lingard Walcott loftus-cheek
    Kane Aguero j.ayew

  17. Drogba Legend
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Transfer out and downgrade one:

    A) Azpi
    B) Ota
    C) Alonso

    Transfer out and upgrade one:

    A) Bilva
    B) Choupo

    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Ć
      A

    2. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      CA

  18. HD7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Ot or Alonso to VVD?

    1. HD7
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Ota or Alonso...

      1. Football Rambler
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Otamendi for me

    2. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Either or really.

      I'd probably just about go for Otamendi. City are starting to take a lot of short corners and they're fixtures don't look great for clean sheets

    3. Darklord_bg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Otamendi

  19. Viper
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Two of my mates (who couldn't really care less) triple captained Aguero this week. What a feeling it would be 🙂

    I presume it woukd beat the feeling of Andy Carroll's 3 pointer 😆

    1. gunner 2727
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Gesus! And I was one of the Kane tripplers.... sigh

    2. Pacer.
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      awesome! Good on them

      1. Viper
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        They're loving letting me know about it too 🙂

  20. Football Rambler
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    With Liverpool guaranteed to play in GW31, and some tasty fixtures, I'm guessing a few will be considering a Liverpool defender over the next week or two.

    What are people's chosen options, and why?

    The value offered by TAA could be amazing if he can nail down a spot. The seem to follow a nice tradeoff between value and nailedness through from TAA to Robertson to VVD. I guess it depends whether you would rather have the security of starts or the funds to spend elsewhere.

    What are your thoughts?

    1. gunner 2727
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah think have to make sure he's nailed... I need a BGW keeper so Adrian to karius looks likely, just wanna see who starts in CL first... same applies to defenders

      1. Football Rambler
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Karius could be a nifty punt. But I suppose there is the lingering doubt he could get dropped as well. Probably offers similar value to Robertson in that regard?

        1. gunner 2727
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah very similar, all depends on Who is fancied for each game. I'd say karius more nailed than Robertson as Robertson will share games with Moreno for sure, karius may not

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I've had Robertson before Christmas and he's been surprisingly good to own

      1. UpAndAway
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        What are the chances or Moreno replacing him now that CL is back? I'm looking to bring him in.

    3. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I have Robertson but VvD would be my first choice

    4. TallestJohn
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Will get VVD in for Otamendi as long as he makes it through the CL game unscathed.

      Only way I'd consider any of the fullbacks or Karius would be if I left it until GW31 to actually get any of them in. TAA and Gomez pretty much no-goes for me due to rotation. Karius probably my second choice, would probably have the cash to upgrade from Elliot.

    5. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I'm going with Van Dijk. Still think Moreno will steal a game from Robertson, maybe before the CL second leg. Wouldn't touch TAA. Gomez has been Klopp's preferred choice.

  21. gunner 2727
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Right where that lovely fella who magically predicts your rank?

    1. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      FFix? 🙂

      1. gunner 2727
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I just like the guy taking the Id and magically producing it with his own algorithm! And I'm lazy

        1. Viper
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Oh right, haven't seen him on here. Still amazes me how guys come up with these algorithms just for fun 🙂

          1. gunner 2727
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Yep me too! That's why I love it.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      He awaits on the next page 🙂

      1. Ragabolly
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        That's what I was doing indeed 😀

  22. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Already lost .1 m SV on Otamendi. Would you take.1m SV loss on Alonso tonight and get VVD post CL game? Or move now.

    Plan for week 28 is to get VVD and Davies or Vertonghen for both

    1. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Definitely hold all transfers for as long as you possibly can. It could easily be worth the 0.1/0.2 you lose. Things can change so much between now and the next deadline

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      If course it's a calculated risk and only you can decide, but I'd need a really good reason to do an early transfer at this stage, and I don't think a couple of drops are enough to warrant transfers now

    3. TallestJohn
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Wait until after the CL game. No FA Cup for Pool on the weekend so if he makes it through it'll be fairly safe to get him straight in.

    4. Js31
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I'm just gonna do it now mainly because I cba waiting

  23. Burger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Which would you prefer out of:

    A. Sanchez & Firmino

    Or

    B. Miki & Aguero

    ?

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Neither

      1. Burger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Well that's sorted that one then
        😆

    2. TallestJohn
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't bother with either of the mids.

      Firmino probably better value than Aguero over the next few.

    3. Regin
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      i wouldnt buy sanchez even if he was 8m. And he is almost 12m?

  24. the snazzy viking
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    So difficult

    Did Lingard ➡ Shaqiri yesterday with one of my FTs, and now contemplating using another one

    Bought Alonso at 7.3 so would lose SV if he falls tonight

    Reckon I should do Alonso ➡ VVD? Only concern is what do I do with the money

    Adrian Elliot
    Alonso Jones Hegazi Duffy Kenny
    Salah Sterling Walcott Shaqiri McArthur
    Kane Firmino Vardy

    cheers

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Only FA Cup and Champions League to worry about.

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah I might just take the price falls on the chin and hope ideas come to mind

      2. Numb
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I think it's up to individual people to make their own decisions re risk vs value

    2. gunner 2727
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Lose the cash, only 10 weeks left

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks

  25. Tazah
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone still in the cup?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      2048 left 😯

    2. Viper
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Ederson penalty save knocked me out. And no, I'm not looking for sympathy 😉

  26. Ninjaa
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Currently
    DDG Elliot
    Otemendi Jones Robertson Kenny Stephens
    Hazard Sterling Son Salah Carroll
    Aguero Firminho Quaner

    2 freebs, is it worth a 4pt hit to do Quaner Hazard and Otemendi to
    Kane, 4.6m mid and 4.2m defender, Kane + 8.8m for 1 Def and 1 mid

  27. Man Chest Hair United
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Selling Hazard to Sanchez last week has cost me 20 plus points. Sanchez on the never again list for ne

    1. Darklord_bg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      This brings back memories of last season when those two were alternating being in form and out of form and people kept switching between them and always missing on their points.

      Just pick one and stick with him.

  28. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Right.

    Just in & saw Chelsea score.

    Where the f**k is Marcos Alonso.

    1. Darklord_bg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Vegas, baby...

    2. Adams6
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Poorly ankle

  29. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Choose one or two of these to do after FA cup games, and why please:

    A) Alonso > GW31 playing defender
    B) Azpi > GW31 playing defender
    C) Otamendi > GW31 playing defender
    G) Something else

    Hennessey
    Alonso Otamendi Coleman
    Salah Eriksen Sterling Shaqiri
    Firmino Wilson Vardy

    Speroni | Azpi, Wilshere, Zeegelaar

    2FTs. 1.0m ITB. Many thanks 🙂

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      No DEF?

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        On the contrary, I have 5 DEFs 😉

  30. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    VvD coming into my team. Though...

    Who’d you sell - Alonso or Christensen?