Scout Notes

Mané outscores Salah again as Liverpool penalty plot thickens

Fantasy Premier League midfielders Mohamed Salah (£13.0m) and Sadio Mané (£9.8m) were both in the points again on Monday night as Liverpool won 2-0 at Crystal Palace.

However, there was disappointment for both of them in terms of the penalty-taking pecking order.

There was also a second successive clean sheet for the Reds as they continue to look like a team worth tripling-up on in 2018/19.

We’ve gone over the final match of Gameweek 2 to pick out the key Fantasy talking points.

CRYSTAL PALACE 0-2 LIVERPOOL

Goals: James Milner (£5.5m), Sadio Mané (£9.8m)

Assists: Mohamed Salah x2 (£13.0m)

Mohamed Salah (£13.0m), Sadio Mané (£9.8m) and Andrew Robertson (£6.0m) appear to be the three players required for the optimum Liverpool triple-up, all three of them picking up returns against Palace on Monday night.

Salah’s two assists ensured that he now has seven goal involvements in as many Premier League appearances. At Selhurst Park he was Liverpool’s chief goal threat firing off six shots. No FPL midfielder managed more than that in Gameweek 2, Chelsea’s Pedro (£6.5m) the only one level with him.

Meanwhile, Mané’s late strike, assisted by Salah, means he remains ahead of his Egyptian colleague both in goals scored and FPL points after Gameweek 2. The Senegalese international has found the net three times in 2018/19 to Salah’s once, and he leads him 26 to 17 on total FPL score. With 45 percent of Fantasy managers still giving the heavily priced Salah a wide-berth, Mané’s latest haul will certainly encourage the debate over whether he can cover the output of last season’s Golden Boot winner.

Salah’s shot count on the season is certainly hard to match, he has had 10 efforts on goal to Mané’s six. But the pair are equal when those shots are filtered to in the box (six) and whether they were on target (four). Throw in Mané’s advantage when it comes to bonus, he has five compared to Salah’s zero, and there really is an interesting case to argue that he is the better option. Obviously we will need more matches before coming to a conclusion on that, but Mané’s popularity will almost inevitably rise before a Gameweek 3 home meeting with Brighton.

Trailing away in the Liverpool coverage debate though, is striker Roberto Firmino (£9.5m). Another peripheral performance from the Brazilian sees him now way behind Salah and Mané. He has had just two shots in two matches so far, only one of those was in the penalty area and neither was on target.

However, the need for a third Liverpool attacker seems to have been completely dissipated by the strong performances of left-back Robertson anyway. He and Virgil van Dijk (£6.0m) remain close in ownership (around the 17 to 18 percent mark), but the Scot has outperformed his defensive colleague so far, FPL-wise. He has one assist and three bonus points, while van Dijk no goal involvements and zero bonus. Furthermore, Robertson has created more chances and the former Southampton man is yet to register an attempt on goal, normally one of his specialities. That is not to take anything away from van Dijk’s stature as a player outside of FPL. He continues to be one of the main reasons why Liverpool are yet to concede a goal in 2018/19, having won all of his tackles on Monday night, accounting for nine of his team’s 13 succesful aerial duels, making eight clearances and doing all of that with 92.4 percent passing accuracy.

“No-one even thinks about the cost (of van Dijk) now, he is in this market, and he is worth it. It is not important for us.” – Jurgen Klopp

There still remains a case for the inclusion of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£5.0m) who looks more assured as the first-choice right-back with each game. He was a regular attacking outlet for Liverpool on Monday night and supplied more crosses than any defender other than Kieran Trippier (£6.0m) in Gameweek 2. Given that he could save £1.0m compared to Robertson, he should continue to hold onto just under 20 percent ownership.

Another crucial talking-point from the match was that of the Liverpool penalty-taking situation. Mané was believed to be the favoured option for spot kicks after scoring two in pre-season while James Milner (£5.5m) netted one but missed another. However, it was the former England international who stepped up to take the penalty after Salah was fouled in the box, much to the disappointment of Mané’s 30 percent ownership. The Senegalese might still be in the frame considering that Jordan Henderson (£5.5m) has now returned to match action. He came on in the 66th minute in a straight swap for Milner, both in terms of position within the 4-3-3 and the captain’s armband. Therefore, Mané may become the penalty-taker if Henderson starts the next match at Milner’s expense – after all, Naby Keita (£7.5m) and Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.5m) have impressed in central midfield so far and look like they could keep their places. We certainly need a little more data before declaring outright who the Liverpool spot-kick taker is.

One thing we can be fairly confident on is that Salah is not going to be too involved with penalties this season. The fact that he was not considered for Monday’s spot-kick despite winning it is quite telling, especially as one of Mané’s pre-season penalties was also given after a foul on Salah.

For those heavily invested in Liverpool, they will be happy to know that, despite overseeing another win, another clean sheet and more goal involvements for his key players, manager Jurgen Klopp still believes there is room for improvement. If the Reds can make the changes the German is looking for, their players will continue to go from strength-to-strength as Fantasy assets.

“It is difficult to always deal with these situations, but I was happy defensively. I wanted more offensively, and the full-backs to be involved more. We still had three or four good situations, where we were perhaps a bit unlucky. It wasn’t a brilliant game for us. We won it because we scored in two very decisive moments. If we’re not brilliant we usually lose, but we didn’t this time. That’s unusual for us.” – Jurgen Klopp

It was a night of mixed emotions for the 22 percent ownership of Crystal Palace right-back Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£4.1m). He played well once again, showing defensive strength and, from his days as a winger, the ability to get forward too. To be able to own a player of his qualities in a team that should keep plenty of clean sheets this season for well under £4.5m is hugely exciting for Fantasy managers. However, Wan-Bissaka was caught out in the second-half by Salah’s breakaway run and, in fouling him, was sent off. He will now miss the Gameweek 3 trip to Watford but will return in Gameweek 4 when Southampton come to Selhurst Park. For that reason, it would make little sense to sell him for that period. Keeping him on the bench for one week should do little damage to Fantasy squads.

The starting berth of Gameweek 1 goal-scorer Jeffrey Schlupp (£4.5m) has now come under threat following Max Meyer’s (£6.0m) first appearance of the season. He came on for the former Leicester City in the second-half in a straight swap, which could suggest the German will become the first-choice there. At this stage it is hard to know whether or not Meyer will claim the left-midfield position as is own, simply because his pre-season with Palace was virtually non-existant. He played zero minutes in the friendly matches over the summer while Schlupp registered 352, and may still have a week or two left to make his case for staying in the starting line-up.

Finally, the vast majority of Fantasy managers should take some encouragement from the fact that both Liverpool and Crystal Palace named unchanged sides for this match. Yes, there may be some doubt over whether the Reds’ central midfielders or Schlupp can hold down their place, but both sides should be considered on the more settled side of the Premier League right now when it comes to team selection. Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) continues to operate as a centre-forward and there is has been no rotation of Klopp’s full-backs yet.  That is all good news considering how popular the assets of Liverpool and Palace have proven in the early part of the season.

CRYSTAL PALACE XI (4-4-2): Hennessey; van Aanholt, Sakho, Tomkins, Wan-Bissaka; Schlupp (Meyer 83’), McArthur, Milivojevic, Townsend (Ward 79’); Zaha, Benteke (Sørloth 70’).

LIVERPOOL XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Robertson, Gomez, van Dijk, Alexander-Arnold; Milner (Henderson 66’), Wijnaldum, Keita (Lallana 87’); Mané, Firmino (Sturridge 90’), Salah.

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2,825 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Pep says
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    I understand the idea behind dropping Salah for Liverpool's tough fixtures but why are people including Leicester in this? Leicester defence ain't great and unless you've saved a transfer, it seems mad to lose Salah for a hit before gw4

    1. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      But Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton (yes I know that last one is pushing it a bit) have easy fixtures from gw4, harder than Leicester away anyway. Hazard if he plays in gw3?

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I'm not for dropping Salah but Leicester's defence will be tighter this year.

    2. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      It ia madness especially considering most will be taking hits for this.

  2. CHARLIE HULL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Does Schlupp appear to be nailed in midfield for the foreseeable? Seems a great option if so given fixtures.

    1. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      No. Meyer competing for his place.

  3. Afghanistanislas
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Who would you start this week:
    A) Foster (CPL)
    B) Hamer (CAR)

    1. Snikii
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Both will probably concede. Foster imo for saves

    2. Teddy Brewski
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Hamer. Best fixture possible

    3. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Hamer

    4. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I'm considering Hamer before DDG this week! Trouble is he wasn't great v Man Citeh and so might even get dropped!

      1. nisag17
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        If Hamer gets dropped it isnt a problem since gks get substituted rarely so De Gea plays anyway for you.

        1. adams_6
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I know. That's a number 7 up there mate, I'm well aware of the rules. My point is, I would definitely play Hamer over Foster

          1. Superbadhine
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            What an unnnecessarily arseholeish reply.

          2. Udo
            • 6 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Be kind,Nisag17 was just politely commenting, you didn't need to add ur own situation to Su Floren... original question.

  4. meksss
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Trade my Moura for Ozil in draft league? Moura is surely on borrowed time when Sons back?

    1. Snikii
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah, very good long term imo

      1. meksss
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Appreciate the reply

    2. meksss
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone else?

    3. adams_6
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I'd say Ozil is a btter draft pick long term. He rips up lower rated teams.

      1. meksss
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        You're right. Its been a tough start in fixtures for arsenal. Do you think Moura starts when Sons back. Im thinking he goes back to bench. We can't forget how much of a beast Son is.

        1. adams_6
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I would say Ozil is a better pick than Moura even if Moura starts every match.

  5. nisag17
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the list of players that wont continue to do well even though they scored high in gameweeks 1 and 2. And why.

    My list

    Pogba - 2 penalties nothing else. Doesnt look like continuing his fpl performance.
    Etheridge - 2 out of 2 penalty saves. You cant make this up!
    Sclupp - will probably lose his place in the team.

    Got doubts about others. But so far these are on the list.
    Thiughts? Any others?

    1. Ephurion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Steve Cook.
      Don't think he'll continue his goals/assists ratio, and banking on Bournemouth CSes isn't a gamble I'd take.
      Could be fair value for 4.5, though, but I don't see him matching the premiums going forward

      1. Amsterhammer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Good shout. He'll get a couple goals/assists per season looking at his stats. They all come in the first few GWs it seems.

    2. #FPLBhuna
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      think all your shouts there are rubbish

      1. Amsterhammer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Insightful for a guru.

    3. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I actually think your shouts are legit. Etheridge especially - remember huddersfield last season - started amazingly - everyone jumped on mounie then he stopped scoring consistently.
      Then Schlupp - I always thought he might lose his place - especially when max meyer and kouyate might start playing in that midfield.

      Only one that makes a bit of sense is Pogba if you really want utd mid/attacking cover as he will bring in other goals as well

    4. ZimZalabim
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      disagree on Pogba, once matic or herrera is back and maybe smalling in place of one of the cbs they will have a better foundation and he will push on more, and i would expect continue to deliver points and being on pens is a added bonus.

      agree on etheridge dont see cardiff keeping clean sheets and he isnt going to save pens every week.

      agree on schlupp also that was his first goal for palace and max meyer will def take his place long term. hes the most at risk in that midfield.

    5. Amsterhammer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Other than Steve Cook who has now been mentioned, I think the list is robust.

      Shaw and Pedro could also be included but that's more because I think their places are at risk and they'll been in and out of the starting line up.. Pedro due to genuine competition between himself Willian/Hazard. Shaw bc Maureen has a dislike of him.

  6. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Have
    Alonso Robbo Mendy (AWB Peltier)
    Mikhi Salah Rich Cairney and Bilva
    and
    Aguero Zaha Kamara

    really want Mane as my rival in the minileague (sitting top) has almost the same team as mine (obviously reads FFs) but has mane and Salah which hurt me the most.
    The problem is I want Hazard as well for GW4 as I think he will be a beast this season. I have the money in the bank already to upgrade bilva to hazard.

    The thing is I let mane rise already..I have Salah already. Would you go for Mane or Hazard? Is it too late to go for mane? I don't really want to have the exact team as my rival - where's the point in that?

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Go for Haz as Pools fixtures are going to get harder soon

      1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Thank you for your suggestion. That was my plan all along but it's been so hard to stop myself from bringing in mane - latest episode being yesterday when Mane scored in the dying seconds..I'm a Liverpool fan as well - so many mixed feelings

        1. Ghost Gooner
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          At least you have Salah and Robbo to get some points to offset Mane's points

          1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 8 months ago

            Against other people that might not have all three yes, but my league rival has all of these 3... He basically has my team but for the GK rotation (Patricio Hart instead of Foster - Fabianski) and Shaw, Mane and Neves instead of Alonso, CAirney and Miki). Before, we both had Jota but offloaded

            1. Ghost Gooner
              • 10 Years
              5 years, 8 months ago

              You have to gamble when your rival has the same players as you unfortunately. I also would refrain from from taking hits as this will just kill your chances of catching your rivals

              1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
                • 9 Years
                5 years, 8 months ago

                I know - I wasn;t planning on doing that but Jota and King dropped in one day and Davies was close to drop as well (still think he will by the end of the week).
                Alonso give me the flexibility of replacing him with any defender in the game if he doesn't keep his form going - Plus I might even get a +0.1 from him if he rises again and then I have to replace him on WC (either goes to Madrid or stops playing well/ gets injured etc.) So he is like an investment. Whole plan was to get Hazard though..Only a handful of people have him in top 50. If he start being Hazard from a few years ago - watch out

    2. ZimZalabim
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      same situation im in
      i think at the moment it makes more sense to go for Hazard and have a differential to ur rival.
      I chose firmino over mane as well and though im doing well my rival is smashing it and i know hell have a hard time getting auba or hazard in so i have to take advantage of that and get on one of them early.
      I think you should do the same

      1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I decided to go for Mikhi instead of Aubameyang as Arsenal cover as soon as this week then go for Hazard after their away newcastle game.

        1. ZimZalabim
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          ya nice moves im planning the same

  7. Gamer18
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Should I make any changes?
    Rui
    Robertson Davies Mendy
    B Silva Jota Mane Salah(C)
    Aguero Arnautovic King

    Speroni WB Peltier Stephens
    2 FT
    O.0 ITB
    All chips available including wildcard

    1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      I had almost the same team as yours but I jumped quickly before prices dropped and swapped jota and king for miki and kamara. Also swapped out davies for a -4 for alonso as davies is about to drop in the next few days (highly likely) and alonso was due a rise. I want him for the season if he will continue overlapping like that with hazard on that flank

      1. Gamer18
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks, still think Davies will come good

        1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I dropped him for a -4 only because he was about to drop and alonso to rise so thats a -0.2 that would have ruined my plans for the future. Also another reason was the fact they conceded in both games and they have Liverpool and ManUtd to play in the next few games..

  8. Steinim
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Should I change B.Silva to Mkhitaryan or rather stick with B.Silva?

    1. ChildishFirmino&Lallana…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Do you have any money left? I would stick with silva for the moment if you can't upgrade any other midfielder to Miki ( I did jota to mikhi and king to kamara for free so I could get the funds)

  9. Point-one short
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Will Ramsey start in Arsenal's easier upcoming games?

    1. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Not necessarily

      1. Point-one short
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        Someone said that Emery was unhappy with his performance vs City - didn't see the game myself so just wondering what's likely to be Arsenal's line-up for the upcoming fixtures...

        Who gets dropped if Ramsey starts? Iwobi?

        1. Ghost Gooner
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          With Laca likely to start from now on I think Ramsey won't have a place in the starting 11. His contract issue might be an issue as well. I'd avoid Arsenal mids tbh

  10. RighteousBrother
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    how do we feel about arsenal defence? currently thinking of upgrading tomkins to bellerin or monreal

    1. Latch86
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      For now, avoid. They look like a stiff wind will knock them all over!

      1. RighteousBrother
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 8 months ago

        I have a feeling theyre going to crush west ham, and bellerins defensive frailties will be less exposed, on another day hed have gotten one or two assists to auba!

        Its hard to sit on a transfer haha

        1. Latch86
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 8 months ago

          I think you might be right... but I could see a 3-1 / 4-1 - I'm not sure I see them keeping a clean sheet

  11. Spoiler
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    current got 2 freebies with a mill spare team in link below

    https://gyazo.com/02770af7498a85163e55f7e01434ea93

    any suggestions?

  12. DanL18
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Have two FTs but don't know where to use them.
    My current team:

    Foster
    Mendy Luiz van Dijk
    Salah (c) Bilva Richarlison Fraser
    Zaha Aguero Firmino

    Bench - M. Ryan, Tomkins, Cairney, Suttner
    Thinking about trying to get Mkhitaryan in, or Kante in for Cairney
    Anyone got any suggestions? Thanks

  13. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bring in Mkhi before the price rise or just before the deadline?

  14. Whits
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Bernardo Silva to Mkhitarian? Yes or no? (I have Mendy and Kun)

    1. Holteenderinthesky
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      My dilemma as well. Only brought him in last week

  15. Ould Onion Bagger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Asking more for a draft league I'm in... is Fabinho going to become a starter at some point and the delay in that happening is him getting comfortable with the team?

  16. Holteenderinthesky
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Brought in Bilva last week after the De Bruyne injury. Peps lineup on the weekend as already made me regret it.
    My team is
    Foster (Fabianksi)
    Mendy, Luiz, TAA, (Boly, Bissaka)
    Salah, Mane, Richarlsons, Bilva, Hughes.
    Aguero, Morata, (Madine)
    Is it crazy to take Bilva out for Mkhi after one week?.
    My reasoning is Madine and Bissaka won't play, Leaving Boly Vs ManC. My only sub. Slightly worried Bilva, TAA and Morata might not start. So don't want to be left with 9/10 starting players. My other option is Boly for a 4.5 but not sure who to.

    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 8 months ago

      Keep bilva until he gets dropped.

  17. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Are folks still hyped on Auba?

    Is it just me or does he looks uncaptainable for the next 6 weeks, not sure I’d be getting him in at 11.0. Surely Mkhi is better value? Not really bothered by Haz either during this run - 2 v good captaincy rotators right here

    Kun & Salah have this run during Auba/Haz’s good fixtures:

    GW3 - BRI (Salah)
    GW4 - NEW (Kun)
    GW5 - FUL (Kun)
    GW6 - SOU (Salah)
    GW7 - BRI (Kun)
    GW8 - MCY (Salah)
    GW9 - BUR (Kun)

  18. MrFootieIsHere
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    Current WC teams - 1 or 2? (poor bench):

    1)
    Ederson
    Alonso Robbo Mendy
    Salah* Mkhiti Mane Richarlison Fraser*
    Aguero Zaha

    2)
    Ederson
    Alonso Robbo Mendy
    Hazard Mkhiti Mane Richarlison Maddison
    Aguero Zaha

    Any changes?

  19. KujaliaFC
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 8 months ago

    If Alexis plays more than 140 minutes over the next two games, should I get him for GW5?

    I would mean taking out Salah.