Scout Notes

Martial one to monitor as woeful Norwich defence aids United’s cause

Norwich City 1-3 Manchester United

  • Goals: Onel Hernandez (£5.3m) | Scott McTominay (£5.0m), Marcus Rashford (£8.4m), Anthony Martial (£7.5m)
  • Assists: None | Daniel James (£6.1m), Rashford
  • Bonus: Tim Krul (£4.5m) x3, Rashford x2, McTominay x1

Was this the start of a Manchester United renaissance or merely the ‘Norwich factor’ heralding a false dawn?

Time will tell as to whether one of the most underwhelming attacks in the Premier League this season has been transformed into the potent force of the early-Solskjaer reign or if it’s just the latest instance of the Canaries’ kamikaze defending making another opposition team look like the Brazil 1970 side.

The return of Anthony Martial (£7.5m) is an obvious boon to United and an intriguing one for Fantasy managers.

After a brief cameo against Liverpool and a run-out against Partizan Belgrade on Thursday, the Fantasy Premier League midfielder was thrown back into the starting XI for the trip to Carrow Road and lined up ‘out of position’ as the focal point of a 4-2-3-1.

The Frenchman duly excelled, with his movement and combination play with the attacking midfielders behind him pulling the Norwich backline apart.

Half of the ‘big chances’ that arrived in this game fell the way of Martial, with the France international converting the last of those shortly before his withdrawal on 75 minutes.

His remaining owners – including our very own Mark – would have been irked at the bad luck, poor finishing and heroic goalkeeping that preceded that goal, with three gilt-edged opportunities going begging – one of which was a spot-kick that Tim Krul (£4.5m) saved.

Krul also somehow kept out a Martial header from point-blank range in the first half before sticking out a leg to stop the Frenchman’s goalbound shot just after half-time.

The three players behind Martial had plenty of joy, too, with Marcus Rashford (£8.4m) more of a threat despite a move to the left flank.

The Frenchman’s roaming role in attack often created plenty of space for his teammates to exploit and no-one had more attempts on goal or penalty box touches than Rashford at Carrow Road.

The England striker’s backheeled assist for Martial’s goal was as good as the dinked finish itself and he had earlier put United 2-0 up when racing onto a superb Daniel James (£6.1m) pass to slot past Krul.

Solskjaer hailed his side’s attacking display after full-time, saying:

I think it’s going to improve and improve.

It’s fantastic to have Anthony back. He’s been missed for eight weeks and Dan and Marcus have done really well over the last two months, while he’s been away. Loads of attacking play has been through them. They stretch teams so much, it creates space for people like Andreas today, I thought he was excellent today.

The midfield can have more space and it continues and continues, and the performance depends on the forwards. When they play like this, it creates more space for others.

We’re trying to improve that relationship [between Martial and Rashford] more and more. Sometimes, it’s two up front. Sometimes, like today, three up front. I’m very pleased with the whole team.

There are cheaper Fantasy options than Rashford and Martial, of course.

Andreas Pereira (£5.0m) started his seventh successive league match on Sunday, lining up in the hole behind Martial.

No goals and one assist all season pretty much sums his appeal up, although it was interesting to see him replace Ashley Young (£5.4m) as United’s go-to dead-ball expert: all ten of the Red Devils’ corners were taken by Pereira.

James’ Fantasy stock has fallen since the opening four Gameweeks of the season but the young Wales international made it back-to-back assists with an excellent delivery for Rashford’s goal.

Assist potential is perhaps what James will be relying on so long as Martial and Rashford stay fit: the former Swansea player was back on the right flank for this match, which obviously hinders his ability to cut inside and shoot on his favoured right foot.

Despite United having 21 shots, James didn’t register one of them.

Scott McTominay (£5.0m) was on the scoresheet, though, curling in United’s opener to register his third attacking return of the season.

Based on FPL’s admittedly limited points-per-million metric, McTominay is the best-value midfielder of 2019/20.

His place in the centre of the park looks secure for the foreseeable, particularly as Paul Pogba (£8.4m) looks set to remain sidelined until December.

Speaking after full-time, Solskjaer said of Pogba:

I don’t think we’ll see him before December. He’ll be out for a while. He needs time to fully recover. Maybe for Sheffield United after the international break, but probably December before we can see him.

Pogba is one of three players to have taken a penalty for United this season, all of whom have missed at least once.

In a quite incredible opening 45 minutes at Carrow Road on Sunday, Rashford and Martial both saw spot-kicks saved by Krul.

Where that leaves the running order from 12 yards is anyone’s guess, with Solskjaer saying after the game:

I’ll make sure Juan Mata is on the pitch [next]! We’ve got players, you know, who won a few penalty shoot-outs in the Carabao Cup and in pre-season. They all score penalties apart from when it comes to the ones that matter.

How many have we missed? I think we’ll get more and more and more penalties. They are so quick on their feet, especially those three we’re talking about. Anthony, Marcus, even Jesse [Lingard], when he comes on there, Mason [Greenwood] and Dan. They’re so quick, you’ve got to be 100 per cent sure when you make a tackle. We’ll get more but have to practice putting them in the goal.

Both [penalties v Norwich] should be retaken because the keeper is a yard off his line so they should have been retaken.

Krul’s heroics from 12 yards and his six other stops (including that close-range header from Martial) earned him three bonus points and a 16-point haul in FPL.

He was the one member of the Norwich backline who emerged from this encounter with any credit and there-in lies the disclaimer about United’s attacking display.

Following an unexpected shut-out at the Vitality Stadium in Gameweek 9, normal business was resumed at Carrow Road with Daniel Farke’s side leaving huge spaces for the Red Devils to exploit.

Their poor defensive showing was compounded by injuries picked up by Krul and stand-in centre-half Ibrahim Amadou (£4.5m), with Farke saying after full-time:

[Krul] was great but he needs some treatment because he overstretched his knee where he had the ACL injury. I hope it’s not too bad, but we have to wait for the assessment tomorrow morning. He was fantastic and showed great character and experience. That’s exactly what we need in this moment.

Ibrahim isn’t okay because he overstretched his knee and was in a lot of pain. He couldn’t play further on in his central role, so we had to change the system a bit to 4-4-1. That’s why it’s a risk as a coach to make your third change in the game early. I felt we needed to take the risk. It says a lot about his character that he wanted to stay on the pitch and help his teammates.

Jamal Lewis (£4.5m) also had to be withdrawn midway through the second half, with Farke saying:

Jamal felt poorly, and the doctor said he has a high temperature, so it’s just an illness or virus.

There was no joy for Teemu Pukki (£6.9m) or Todd Cantwell‘s (£4.8m) remaining owners either.

Cantwell blazed a presentable early chance over the bar and later forced David de Gea (£5.5m) into a save but was partly culpable for United’s opening goal and was hooked at the break.

The budget midfielder’s starts now look under serious threat, with the eye-catching Onel Hernandez (£5.3m) replacing him at half-time and going on to score the Canaries’ consolation goal late on.

Hernandez was indeed Norwich’s first-choice left-winger in the Championship last season.

Farke, who also brought on Marco Stiepermann (£5.3m) at the interval, explained his half-time changes, sounding some ominous comments:

We needed more physicality. We started pretty well in the game with the first big chance, but it’s important that when you have a shooting position in the 18-yard box without any pressure you have to be focused and convinced that you’ll score, not happy that you just have a chance.

I wasn’t happy with how we defended either goal in the first half. The second one wasn’t nearly good enough. I wanted to bring more experienced players in for the second half, but to turn the game when you’re playing the last 20 minutes with ten lads is difficult.

I was pleased that we tried everything until the end and got a goal and were close to getting a second. The reaction, mentality and character were good, but our young players especially have to learn from the first half.

Pukki blanked for the fifth Gameweek in a row, meanwhile, and the mass exodus is continuing, with the Finnish striker the most-sold FPL asset of Gameweek 11.

There were glimmers of hope, with Pukki missing two opportunities from the edge of the United six-yard box either side of the break.

The penalty box prominence is still there (the most touches in the opposition area of any FPL forward during his barren run) but the quality chances have dwindled and there are obvious comparisons to be drawn with Aleksandar Mitrović from 2018/19, with the Fulham striker scoring five goals in the first six Gameweeks and then drying up thereafter.

Pukki’s unsustainable early-season conversion rate has now regressed to normal levels and even if the goal drought ends soon, the rate with which the attacking returns arrived in the first month of the campaign seems unlikely to be repeated again.

Norwich City XI (4-1-4-1): Krul; Aarons, Godfrey, Amadou, Lewis (Byram 66′); Tettey; Buendia, Leitner (Stiepermann 46′), McLean, Cantwell (Hernandez 46′); Pukki.

Manchester United XI (4-2-3-1): De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Young; Fred, McTominay; James (Lingard 81′), Pereira (Garner 82′), Rashford; Martial (Greenwood 75′).

Members Analysis

663 Comments Post a Comment
  1. NotsoSpursy
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Salah or Mane for long term?

    1. oi no professionals
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A fit Salah

    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Not much in it but salah on pens is big plus so if u don’t need the cash then salah

      1. Pep Roulette
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        This

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      My TV is low hence Mane was picked earlier and now value has been intact on him

  2. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    How is mane rising?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Stating the obvious ... many transfer him in (probably after looking at the picture of Salah's ankle)?

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        It’s like 20000 net, hardly a big shift

        But comment was more the frustration of it than technicalities

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I did not check any numbers mate ... so that's interesting, will have a look later

    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Lots of Salah switches to free up cash
      Could be just 0.4m between them by the end of the week at this rate

  3. Little Frank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Best combo:
    a. Martial and CHO
    b. Jiminez and Mount

    1. Geordie19
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      B) as both guaranteed

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Originally I was on B ... Wolves performance bothers me, so I could go Martial Mount

  4. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Pope
    TAA - Otamendi - Lundy
    Sterling - Mane - KDB - Mount
    Wilson - Abraham - Pukki

    (4.0 - Tomori - Cantwell - Rico)
    1ft & 0.1m

    Thoughts on
    Wilson & Pukki ➡️ Vardy & Connolly for -4?

    Will sell Ota next week for Soyuncu/4.5m and upgrade Cantwell to 6.5m mid (Lei mid/James/Villa mid)

    1. Tempestic
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Looks like a plan

    2. Geordie19
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Looks good but Brighton fixtures turn after this week

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Doesn't matter I just need Connolly for this week against Norwich after that he will be my bench fodder as I will get a 5th mid next week.

  5. Geordie19
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    A) Cantwell to Martial
    B) King to Kane
    C) King to rashford
    D) save

    1. Rhys85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A could work out well!

  6. ‘Tis the Season
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    All this UNITED foolery will end in tears...

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Probably but people will do it (including me) as Arsenal and Spurs are also not that appealing ...

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        At least we'll get price rises.

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          That's the spirit my friend ...

  7. EMBOLOFAN
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    entertained by people taking hits for leicester players

    1. Tshelby
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I need to ask this: are you going to start Maupay in all his next fixtures?

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        a fan must be loyal above all else

      2. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        😀

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Who are you?

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        neilmaupayfan

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          You really are 😀

          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            if i go out on friday im gonna wake up at 2pm with him TCd i know it

        2. Hy liverpool
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          May do pukki to maupay this week !! Would you captain empolo?

          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            i have to now

    3. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Vardy already jumped 5% in ownership

      He’ll be shooting up in price too

      Which only increases the urgency of moves

    4. Tempestic
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      My Maupay brother. Looking forward to this gw 😉

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        its going to be a party

  8. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Ota, CHO to Saiss, Mount -4 ? Mad ?

    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      You probably have a better bench option than Saiss so yes.

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      callum hudson odoi we hardly knew ye

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      What happens to CHO? I thought people transferring the other way around last week?

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        And then Pulisic scored a hattie 😉

  9. andres
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    anyone fancy ings after city?
    nice fixtures and surely they will keep on scoring?

    1. Tempestic
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I think he could do well

  10. Pep Roulette
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    DSilva looks like a great pick right now! With Rodri injured & Fernandinho playing at CB, Gundo is playing at CDM making DSilva & KDB less prone to Pep Roulette! DSilva is fairly cheaper than other City assets and has been getting good points this season! With the rest during upcoming international break, he will surely be starting for City in the games after international break!

    1. Nasagaming
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Yes I agree alongside KDB and sterling who are also playing fantastically

    2. andres
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      yes, I will probably get him as I cannot afford sterling, maybe it is for the better.

      I would actually go for sterling and dsilva for the short term. KDB played deep against villa.

      Dsilva could have easily scored more against villa

    3. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      good point. good advice. thinking of bringing him in.

  11. andres
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    after GW 12, what is your strategu on pool:

    A salah, mane & one of robbo/TAA
    B Robbo, TA & one of Salag/Mane

    1. Rhys85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      It's a tough one isn't it. I think I'm just going to go with one defender and one attacker though. I am in the leaning towards Salah over Mané camp though.

    2. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      if they get a cs or 2, double up robbo and taa, if funds allow.
      maybe just keep robbo and mane, who i have currently. getting salah and mane too difficult and bobby blanked 4 in a row.

    3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Just Salah TAA. I think Bobby F is about to go on a run though.

    4. Warby84
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      B with Salah..

    5. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Salaaaaaaaaggggg

      😆

  12. Rhys85
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Wildcard drafts:

    A) Pope / Henderson
    TAA / Lundy / Mendy / Soy / Rico
    Maddison / Salah / Sterling / Mount / Marvelous
    Maupay / Vardy / Abraham

    B) Ryan / Button
    Robbo / Lundy / Lascelles / Soy / Rico
    KdB / Mané / Sterling / Mount / Marvelous
    Maupay / Vardy / Abraham

    Any good?

    Cheers

  13. Regin
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    who get in for pukki

    a. kane
    b. firmino
    c. jimenez
    d. rashford
    e. lacazette
    f. wood

    dont want c wilson or haller. going for a mid price fwd allows me to upgrade yarmolenko to martial or d silva next week or even son if i get wood.

    1. Rhys85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I'm guessing you already have Vardy and Abraham. Jimenez could be a good shout.

      1. Regin
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        yes rage transferred kun to vardy already. need to get rid of pukki as well. i am big fan of kun but pep treats him like an old player who needs lot of rest.

  14. Tempestic
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Auba, CHO > Mane, Jimenez? Has to be done tonight tho with the potential Mane rise. Auba with 0 shots in the box in the last 2 has to go, CHO i wouldnt mind holding one more week but I think hes the best way to Mane vs Villa. Thoughts? Have Sterling and KDB, no Salah.

    1. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      definitely

  15. Regin
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    if i had to chose one,
    a. D silva
    b. martial

    i will get 1 of them only after next week as i have other priority transfers and city fixtures do turn after s'hampton game, so take a punt on martial? player to go will be yarmo whose fixtures also turn.

  16. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    cantwell to perez?

  17. Monya Meow Meow
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Worth doing Wilson to Maupay?

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Looks a good move to me.

    2. Niho992
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Did you look Brighton fixture after Norwich ?

    3. Party time
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah Maupay is better than Wilson

    4. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      1FT 1.1m itb
      Pope
      TAA,VVD,Söyüncü
      Sterling,KDB, Mount, Yarmolenko
      Abraham,Vardy,Wilson

      Button, Lundstrum,Otamendi,Cantwell

      A) Wilson,Otamendi >> Rashford,Mendy -4

      B) Wilson,Otamendi > Connerly,Rico -4
      ( would leave 5.6m itb. Meaning a VVD downgrade to a 4.9m would afford Cantwell > Mane or a 4.3 would get Salah after the City game.

    5. Niho992
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      What to do here fellas. 3.2 ITB and 1 FT

      Heaton
      Ota-Lunds-Diop
      Sterling (C)-KdB-Mount-Maddison
      Auba-Pukki-Abraham

      Button-Tomori-Soyuncu-Nakamba

      Have a lot of players i want to rid of like Auba, Pukki and Otamendi but i have only 1 FT. Any help would be wonderful. Thx in advance. Cheers !

      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Auba is last in your priority list. Pukki to Vardy and perhaps Ota to Mendy for -4? (Didn't do the math)

    6. Regin
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      is now alonso nailed?

      1. Party time
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Oui

        • Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          After that 1st goal they conceded?!? Is Emerson injured? Source?

      2. Ci Siamo
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        With the Matip injury, who is now nailed at CB?

        A) Lovren

        B) Gomez

        C) Who knows, rotation possible

        1. Party time
            4 years, 5 months ago

            C

        2. Ci Siamo
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Firmino blanked the last four games

          We all know what that means...

          Haul City