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Scoutcast Episode 312 – Son rises as Man City players slump

The ascent of Tottenham’s Son Heung-min is among the key issues that Joe, David and Karam tackle ahead of Gameweek 17.

The Spurs midfielder’s broad range of points from goals to assists and bonus has understandably caught their eye ahead of his side’s favourable fixture run.

But who makes way and which other of the north London side’s assets should he be paired up with?

Manchester City’s once-bright stars are being increasingly jettisoned by FPL managers and look to be the obvious fall guys in the clamour for Jose Mourinho’s troops.

However, Liverpool’s high-flying assets could become unlikely players to dump. This episode’s key talking point jumps ahead to Gameweek 18, when Jurgen Klopp’s lads miss a fixture due to Club World Cup commitments. On their return, a hard-to-call clash with Leicester awaits and the Scoutcast crew mull over the unthinkable – saying goodbye to Liverpool’s premium players, albeit temporarily.

The fixtures just passed also come under discussion, in particular, Joe and David’s removal of a bracing player each from their line-ups. But thanks to their replacements also performing well, they have mixed feelings about their moves.

World chess champion Magnus Carlsen’s team is also looked at again after he reached an eye-watering fourth spot in the overall rankings.

Meanwhile, Gameweek 17’s transfer plans and captaincies are revealed. There are festive clean sheets to look over and Karam takes his turn picking a top differential to climb the rankings over the next four Gameweeks.

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261 Comments Post a Comment
  1. theodosios
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    If we suppose that Taylor will miss another game, what about Button, Traore > Martin, Keita (-4) and hit BB button?

    Hendo Button*
    Soy Lund VVD Aurier Lowton
    Son Mane Maddi Zaha Traore*
    Vardy Tammy Rash

  2. Jimmy Boy
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A)Aubameyang > Abraham
    A.Traore > Martial

    B)Aubameyang > Rashford
    A.Traore > Pulisic

    Either of these worth a -4?

    1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      a probably of the 2

  3. Slitherene
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    2 quick questions;
    Who to start?

    1. Mount (BOU) / Zaha (BHA)
    2. Aurier (wol) / Kelly (BHA)

  4. Dave Dreamer
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Is Rico to Kelly a good shout? I may end up burning a transfer...

    1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      yes. thinking doing the same

    2. Bubi
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The same here 😉

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not if Rico is your 5th defender. Pointless transfer that leaves you with less money to spare

  5. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling rested. Really feel he might get back to his old self against this terrible Arsenal team.

    1. My Name Is Prince
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same for KDB

    2. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No doubt he will after I got rid last week.

    3. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      As an owner for 16 GWs all I can say is "sell him, never look back and enjoy the points of the player you brought in".

      Seriously, he looks poor, Man City look poor, Pep said himself that they cannot compete at this moment with top teams in Europe, plus he's even dearer than last season. Of course he's going to score here and there but you're not giving him an armband and there's at least 15 midfielders with more points and/or better value.

      1. MarcusAurelius
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Iv got rid to too. Did Sterling to KDB to fund getting in Son. I don’t think Sterling is worth his price tag at the moment

  6. migas2k7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Rashford or Abraham and why?

    Rashford as in my opinion slightly better fixtures but chelsea attacks way more than united. What do you think?

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Abraham because Chelsea are a fundamentally more attacking side. United still havent shown ability to break down a defensive team.

      1. Cok3y5murf
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        You mean a team like Sheffield?

        1. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Just because Sheff Utd have a good defence doesn't mean they're a defensive team plus we were awful in that game bar 10 minutes. I'm pretty sure he meant teams like Palace and Newcastle, ones that primarily set up for a draw and hit the occasional counter, not sure if Everton are as well drilled as those though.

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            So you're saying Newcastle are harder to break down than Sheffield?

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              No, I didn't say that.

            2. Brosstan
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Sheffield were naive when 2-0 up. United looked completely clueless against Newcastle who actually defended for 90 minutes

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                That was back in GW8 lol

        2. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          They didnt break down Sheffield. Sheffield dominated the vast majority of the game.

          1. Cok3y5murf
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            But not the whole game. United scored 3 goals in their 90 minutes. Doesn't matter whether they came in the majority or minority.

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Rashford is a good pick! It's ok.

              1. Cok3y5murf
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Not my point, but you're showing you've run out of arguments.

                1. The Ejiptian King
                  • 5 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  Nothing else to say, you said Sheff Utd are a defensive team, I disagreed, then you tried to straw man me.

                  1. Cok3y5murf
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    Are we in agreement that a team with a good defense and a defensive team are both hard to break down? Then there is no need for these classifications. You said yourself that you don't think Newcastle are harder to break down than Sheffield. So if they were able to break down Sheffield, Newcastle aren't a major issue.

                2. Brosstan
                  • 9 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  You dont even have any, youre just like a kid saying "and?" , "and?", "and?" ad infinitum...

                  How is Rashford a better pick than Abraham?

                  1. Cok3y5murf
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 4 months ago

                    I have no interest in debating who the better pick is. That's subjective. I was merely arguing about your point that United haven't shown an ability to break down defensive teams.

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Why is everyone so worried about Sterling or KDB? I would not get rid of Son at this point for any of the two.

      Yes they could haul this GW but so could Maddison Mane Salah Son Grealish Rich Pulisic even Pepe 😀

      City do not have Vardy Tammy or Rash assets either. Even Ings has been outperforming City assets.

      You will not fall apart without City assets 😉

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Fail reply to Brosstan's post.

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Because casuals still own Sterling!

      3. migas2k7
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        soooooooo rashford or abraham? =P

        1. Solenya
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Ideal front line, as things stand, would have both along with Vardy, in my opinion. If I absolutely had to chose I'd go for Abraham, given he plays for a more consistent attack.

          1. migas2k7
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            I could do that if i wasn't considering playing with 5 mids (double up on son and alli after chelsea game which is when i will downgrade ings)

            1. Solenya
              • 12 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              Who are to be your 5 mids? With the bounty of consistently performing fwds I'm actually sad I can only have 3 of them.

              1. migas2k7
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Alli, Son, Maddison, mane & Kdb (if i play with 5) . otherwise i could opt for those 3 forward and have only 4 mids (probably remove kdb)

    1. CRO KLOPP
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Itk Croatia

  7. The Ejiptian King
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Lampard's quote about looking to replace Hazard's creativity and goals, he may as well have said they're gonna try and sign Sancho in Jan.

  8. socho
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Having the Ultimate benching headache, please help me bench one:

    - Son
    - Jesus
    - Sterling
    - Ings
    - Mount
    - Abraham
    - James
    - Maddison

    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      James.

    2. Feanor
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      James. But I think my headache is worse.

      Mane
      KDB
      Son
      Alli
      Maddison

      Vardy
      Rashford
      Ings

      1. The Ejiptian King
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Yep, that's horrible.

      2. Solenya
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Wow. Bench Ings and pray West Ham turn up.

      3. socho
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Agree i have a headache while you have a nightmare

    3. RoboVanBasten
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ings

    4. I Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      James

    5. StayoutheSpiceZone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ings

    6. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Bench James.

  9. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Bravo in goal for City tonight. Goal fest for Zagreb.

    1. CRO KLOPP
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Otamendi playing doesnt help also

      1. Silecro
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Whats up man 😀 how's your season going?

        1. CRO KLOPP
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          150 k,some bad decisions especially with captain choices in first 8 gmwks,so not bad concidering that
          You?

          1. Silecro
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            so basically with that rank 8/11 players were doing great regularly, only captain failed haha.

            Im on 28k, having a pretty great season with either captains or rest of the team.

            That said, yesterday i've done KDB > Alli, Jimenez > Rashford (for free) which will probably backfire spectacularly and bring my season to a halt hahah

            1. CRO KLOPP
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I was thinking that same move but I have Son already and don't have Madison, would you buy Alli,Madison or stick with KDB in my position?

              1. Silecro
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                I have Son already also, yeah, would buy Alli anyway, when he's on a roll, he is really on a roll.
                Maddison has a couple of tough fixture after norwich so probably no, im shipping him out for grealish after this week.
                But either way, i would do KDB > Alli, yeah...you can always come back to him if they start going wild

    2. Silecro
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      i hope so, we need it badly

      1. CRO KLOPP
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ajmo Dinamo

  10. Solenya
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Any Palace fans about? Was wondering who will be the first choice CBs once Sakho is back from his suspension. Own Tomkins in Draft atm and was wondering whether to make a switch to Cahill? There's nothing between them underlying stats wise so it comes down to who's more likely to be first choice and eye test account from someone who watches them most weeks. Would really appreciate any input.

    1. StayoutheSpiceZone
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I am not a palace fan, but Cahill is a favourite of Roy

      1. Solenya
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Good to know. Cheers.

  11. StayoutheSpiceZone
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Do not want to see the Son rising from the bench in Munich tonight

    1. The Ejiptian King
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Shame, love watching him play, their games will be brutal without.

    2. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He was the only reason to watch Newcastle

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Newcastle's defender to score more goals...

  12. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Which move is best for a Spurs asset this week?

    A) Madison to Son

    B) KDB to Son

    C) Ings and Dendonker --> Ayew and Alli (-4)

    D) Keep Ings, KDB and Maddy. Spurs can wait

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    4. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

    5. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      D

    6. Clay Davis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

    7. Nas
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      D.
      Then kdb and maddy to alli and son next week

  13. MarcusAurelius
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Why is everyone selling DeBruyne? For me he is a season keeper. Hope he punishes all sellers against Arsenal!

    1. CRO KLOPP
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Let us all have same team then ( kdb owner)

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      New here?
      Other players performing just as well if not better for less money, City off form, not leathering teams regularly, trying something different instead of remaining stagnant and just using him because everyone else has him etc etc etc.

      1. MarcusAurelius
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Seems like keeping him is doing something different and not just selling him like everyone else

        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Or keep him while other players outperform him for less money allowing a stronger team overall.

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hes past it!

    4. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Like Sterling earlier, thought he would continue from last year, after C fails binned him rank has not looked back.

  14. AzzaroMax99
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Buying Hendo while owning Lundy already hasn’t payed off so far.
    No second playing keeper, so I must play them both every week.
    Keep them or try to get rid if Hendi in a week or two? They don’t look very promising about CS potential.

    1. Solenya
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Personally, given their fixtures I would not waste a transfer on getting Hendo out. But if you've absolutely no better moves to make I'd upgrade to Guaita, that's the only upgrade that would make the move worth for me.

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The clean sheets will come, and we’ll be flying 😉

  15. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Auba?

    1) Keep
    2) To Rashford
    3) To Kane
    4) To Jimi

    Have the following

    KDB Mane Alli
    Auba Tammy Vardy

  16. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who scores more points over the next five games do you reckon ?

    A) Son

    B) Maddy

  17. xuwei
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Can’t believe they missed a The Son Also Rises pun opportunity here.

  18. chaser123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this GW19 wildcard plan.....

    Gazzaniga Martin
    TAA Soy Lund Kelly Rico
    Mane KDB Alli Martial Maddison
    Vardy Abraham Greenwood

  19. Nas
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Think kdb outscored alli by 4 pts this week? I fancy a one week punt in kdb then switch to alli the week after. If he doesn’t outscore him by 4 then it’s a waste of a transfer.

  20. knight_king2
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Which 1 (one) to start?

    1. Lundy
    2. Kelly
    3. Soyuncu.

    Have TAA & Robbo so can only choose 1.

    Cheers!