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How to stop the Mane ‘bad beat’ affecting your FPL season

Fantasy Premier League and the game of Texas Hold’ Em Poker have a lot of similarities.

You’re playing a game of cards throughout the night and there sometimes comes a hand where you have played everything correctly and, statistically, the odds are in your favour.

But then the least probable outcome happens. Your Sadio Mané (£12.5m) Triple Captain goes off injured early. That’s just how the dice rolls sometimes.

In Poker, we call it a ‘bad beat’. Over the course of the night, you have about 150-200 hands to play and there will be times when you do face a bad beat; a statistically unfavourable outcome (more than once in a lot of cases).

What separates the skilled players from the normal players in Poker though are the ones that temperamentally do not get affected by the statistically improbable ‘bad beat’ and continue hammering on with their strategy and trust. Despite a few setbacks along the way, they should end the night with a positive outcome with or without minor adjustments.

Keeping your temperament in control is incredibly important. It’s very easy to go ‘on tilt’ and make a series of low probability, irrational decisions after facing a bad beat.

I was talking to Trigg from the FFS boards while writing this in the morning and he had an important point to make here. As humans, we have a tendency to want instant gratification. We want our money (FPL points) back right away and that sometimes leads to poor decision making.

Clear your head and think again.

Mane, Abraham and Vardy injury updates ahead of FA Cup fourth round weekend

My good friend from the FFS boards, Prophet was telling me about a Serbian saying that when roughly translated in English goes like this – “Mom didn’t blame you for gambling but for trying to dig yourself out of the hole”.

The digging yourself out here means first putting in 100 Euros, then 500 and eventually your house. Tilts are dangerous and we should avoid them. The good Poker players are always looking to hunt and find which of their competitors are going ‘on tilt’ so that they can exploit them for some serious money.

Sometimes, you’re not really lucky throughout the night (or your FPL season) and other nights (seasons) you will be more fortunate than normal. Don’t pay attention to the improbable outcomes. We might not even know about it but we’ve probably made a few ‘statistically stupid’ decisions ourselves that have worked out for the best but it is human tendency to remember only the ones that don’t land on your side of the court.

FPL in some ways is similar. You’re making a skilled decision for an unknown outcome. Arguably, you have more control in Poker but there are similarities. There are factors you control and others you don’t. I wrote an article earlier this season that we are making about 140-150 FPL decisions a season:

  • Initial Team + 2 Wildcards + 1 Free Hit = 4 x 15 = 60
  • 38 Captains = 38
  • 3 Chips = 3
  • 35-55 Transfers throughout the season

Naturally, the FPL chips and your captaincies are your relatively high impact decisions. There is more at stake than normal. But they are still not going to decide your ‘entire’ season. All that has happened with some of the high impact decisions not coming your way is that you have received a ‘bad beat’ in a pot in which you have invested a lot of money. It happens. We’ve seen it over the years and if you want to develop as an FPL/ Poker player, don’t let this affect you, laugh it off, clear your head and continue doing what you are doing.

I’ve faced both sides of the coin very recently. The Jamie Vardy (£9.9m) to Sergio Aguero (£12.0m) captain move which worked out spectacularly (I’ve since sold the Manchester City forward and I’m plotting to get him back). But then, of course, I Triple Captained Mané and that turned out to be quite spectacular in its own right. Just goes to see that no one can really see the future and we’re all playing a game where we’re trying to put ourselves in an advantageous position week on week is all. 

Aguero asking the question of non-owners as De Bruyne ticks over

You have to think of your current position as the starting line. AK, another good friend of mine from the FFS boards says that in Poker, whatever be the case, you have to focus on salvaging your ‘current position’. There is a lot of the game left to be played.  Most of us still have about 50 to 60 decisions remaining in the season. That is about 40% of your decision-making pool. There is a lot you can do to affect that.

  • If you’re ranked at around the 1 million mark right now, 500k is just 37 points ahead. That’s one good differential captaincy in my eyes.
  • If you’re ranked at around 500k right now, 100k is just 59 points ahead right now.
  • If you’re ranked at 100k right now, 10k is only 55 points ahead.

If you look at the game this way, you realize that you can still have the rub of the green, have some decisions working in your way and who knows where you will land at the end of the season.

I’d recommend not looking back at what has already happened; instead, plot further ahead (or just take a break and enjoy the FA Cup football over the weekend) and salvage your current position.

The game is more fun that way. Make yourselves immune to the ‘bad beats’. If you’re far away from your actual goal, experiment with some new strategies for the next season. Re-condition your mind to the changing nature of FPL, or check if your current strategy will take you through this night (season) of FPL Poker and go past the bad beats.

Don’t forget it’s a game that we’re playing for fun based around a sport we watch for enjoyment (supposedly!). Don’t make it anything else. I’m currently sitting at an overall rank of 528 and I definitely intend on having fun with the privileged position I am in. Let’s see where it takes me.

Here’s to no more bad beats.

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  1. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Leicester: Ward, Justin, Morgan, Söyüncü, Fuchs, Albrighton, Praet, Choudhury, Gray, Pérez, Iheanacho.

    Subs: Schmeichel, Evans, Tielemans, Maddison, Barnes, Ricardo, Dewsbury-Hall.

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Ndidi missing

    2. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      That’s one seriously upper middle class surname on the last bench spot there!! Haha

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        *sounds more like a national trust property!!

          1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            Hahaha brilliant!!

            1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 2 months ago

              I wonder if that’s where he was conceived??!!

            2. Fpl Richie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 2 months ago

              That's incredible!

  2. iL PiStOlErO
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Any ideas here?

    Thinking of doing something with that front line. Party was the one to go anyways but the question is what to do with other two. Waiting to see Bobby vs WH and end of transfer window. Maybe willing to risk with Kun/Auba, also Jimmy, Ings are always options.

    Ramsdale Martin
    TAA Soy Lund Kelly Cathart
    Salah KdB Son Grealish Dendo
    Vardy Firmino Maupay

    1ft, 0.0 itb

  3. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    I don’t want to sell Mane if he is just out for gw25. Even though I only brought him in and used TC and have no value in him, I still think the Salah & Manè double up is the way to go with those fixtures.

    Vardy on the other hand and his regression even before the injury is tempting to rid until gw28

  4. tim_mullaney3
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Perez or iheanacho for the next two game weeks?

    1. Jullepuu
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Perez

  5. Jullepuu
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Any ideas on this lot? 2 free transfers enough to fix it?

    Guaita Button
    TAA Soy Lund Sidibe Reid
    Mane Salah KDB Grealish Hayden
    DCL Vardy Ings

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Focus on the certain absentee due to injuries I guess ... so patiently wait till the press conf close to deadline

  6. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Guys, I have a four transfer plan over the next three game weeks.....however .....
    Ings > for

    A, Vardy.
    B. Haller. ( does have Brighton next and currently fit )
    C. Tammy.
    D. Save .........currently on this but Mane, injury also needs looking at have Salah

  7. Partick Bateman
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Also considering the WC as team has quite a few doubts. Low funds; would you swap A for B?

    A:
    Pope
    Lundstram TAA Dunk
    Salah Mane Zaha Maddison
    Ings Deulofeu Vardy
    Martin Cantwell Kelly Kabasele

    B (12 changes):
    Henderson
    Lundstram TAA VVD O'Connell
    Salah KDB Grealish Almiron*
    Aguero Martinelli*
    McCarthy Ings JWP CTaylor

    *These guys fillers to navigate this week; swapping between 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 thereafter.

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      No. A few changes in A, Grealish for Zaha to start. Keep WC for a big DGW.

    2. Max City
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      B is indeed better, but is not worth a WC

    3. Throwback
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      No. WC team seems punty.

      Patience seems key for making decisions
      on mane + Vardy.

    4. Partick Bateman
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Ok cheers, maybe I'll stick it out for another week if the injury news is decent.

  8. JammySprat
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Great article and sound advice Lateriser

  9. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Following great clamour for it, I've created a twitter handle to talk junk about fpl with Bottom references. The quality will be low. That's what no FPL does to a chap...
    @FplRichard

  10. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on Mahrez on a WC??

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Not nailed on enough. Not really sure who's nailed on in that City team after the winter break with Real games looming.

  11. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Keeping a route open to Mo if Mané is properly banjaxed

    Unfortunately involves losing triple pool defence, but gaining treble SHU defence... would actually be great to be allowed 6 pool players this year 🙁

    VVD & Son > Baldock & Mo gives:

    Henderson
    TAA, Robbo, Baldock
    Salah (perma), KDB, Martial, Maddison
    Vardy, Jimmy, Ings
    (McCarthy, Lundy, Luiz, Reid)

    Not going there until we get Mané updates though - hopefully he’s back soon to keep splitting those points with Mo

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Why do you lose triple LIV D with Mane’s injury? Don’t understand.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Can't have Mo and triple pool Def!

        1. jtreble
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          ... sorry, I’m thick. Why do you suddenly need Salah now that Mane is injured? Why can’t you stick with your triple LIV D strategy?

  12. Gizzachance
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    thoughts/advice please.
    paly w/c or wait till dgw? with the likes of mane (tc !), vardy, tammy,cantwell, snodgrass, heaton all flagged, likes of aurier, soy, maupay, team not looking in gr8 shape.
    always use it in doubles like most people do, they could be a while off though.
    could using w/c now make a gain, then use transfers wisely, free hit etc for any dgw?
    just wanted to know peoples thoughts/plans
    cheers

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Wait.

      1. Gizzachance
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        will wait for injury news , also after fa cup games
        cheers

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Depends on your team and whether you truly feel a WC is justified

      There is an argument about saving it to the doubles but this needs to be balanced argument. I haven't seen many people mention the points people will potentially lose by going with their current team as it is

  13. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Is Son worth it on a WC?

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I think he's worth the punt because he's been class before and decent price.

  14. Throwback
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Excellent article. key injuries to mane Vardy etc difficult to assess esp if you have value wrapped up in them + inconsistent players in your team.
    Personally, Mane / Mo/ kdb combo seems over for me.

  15. Max City
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    What do you guys think about LEI assets?

    Evans
    Maddison
    Vardy

    Is this the right time to sell them for someone like SOU def, Grealish, or Jimenez?

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Madisson to Grealish.

  16. tisza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Any Utd fans want to comment on the proposed Rashford replacements (according to Sky) Ighalo or Slimani?

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Proposed by who?

      1. tisza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Rodgers said was interest but loan deal with Monaco makes slimani deal complicated.
        Ighalo a possible loan deal in various newspapers

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Oh dear more sticking plasters to do a proper job.
      The person who did not put a recall clause in Sanchez loan contract needs the boot?

      1. tisza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Person who signed Sanchez needs the boot 🙂

        1. g40steve
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          True but he is being paid second largest wage & not played 15 games so get some use.

        2. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Already sacked ... Mourinho

    3. FPL Joker
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      ‘ Textbook stuff from Ed Woodward. Put it out there that United are looking at hugely underwhelming strikers so that it’s actually a relief for supporters when come Friday, they sign no one.‘

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      They need to throw 50m at Wolves for Jimmy

    5. Athletic Dildao
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Fond memories of Igahlo. Couldn't stop scoring for like half a season at Watford.

  17. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Need differential one:
    A) Mahrez + Gomez
    Or,
    B) Grealish + ROBBO

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      B

  18. Fernando Torres
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Mane + DCL OUT

    Traore + Aguero IN (-4)

    Thoughts?

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Good switch but doubts about Aguero gametime

      1. Fernando Torres
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Aubameyang better?

    2. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Two explosive ones
      Good moves

  19. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Leicester 1-0 up

    Nacho

    1. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      What a player

  20. DAZZ
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    I wonder if DSilva will see more minutes in the run in as its his farewell season?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I can’t see Pep giving him additional minutes just because it’s his last season

  21. Gudjohnsen
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Auba or Aguero on WC?

    1. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      M going Auba myself due to low TV
      I think aguero edges slightly due to his current form.

    2. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I’ve gone for both

    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I can’t see Arsenal 3 or 4 goals a game but I can see Man City scoring plenty

  22. KUN_DE_BRU_YNE
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Robbo or, VVD will end as a highest point scorer from now to end?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I just can’t see it

      Liverpool’s defence has been getting away with it all season

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        This

    2. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Traoré shredded Robo on Tuesday- Traoré made Mendy and now Robbo look like stooges

      VVD looks like a top scorer- with TAA service he is a goal threat

  23. BNMC
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Has Samatta been added to the game yet? Not interested in buying him, just curious.

  24. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Just noticed that the Leicester game is on bbc - worth watching or not?

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Only if you have nothing better to do

  25. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone doubling up on Sheffield Utd defence

    They have a nice run of fixtures and are hard to breakdown

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Yes my plan is either Lund Stevens or Hendo Stevens

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I am getting a bit worried about Lunds game time. Not convinced that he is nailed anymore

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Agree Lund time to go but FT is precious

    2. BNMC
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Waiting for the result on Tuesday. If Villa go through and Sheffield Utd win their cup game, it's a blank week in GW28.

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Good point

  26. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Still long way towards the next GW. Do not like the look of my defence but WC is not worth to sacrifice I think ... agree? Probably just Vardy to Wood/Deeney/DCL/Jimenez and maybe Firmino to Auba ...

    Ryan
    TAA Lundstram Rico
    Salah [C] KDB Grealish Martial Traore
    Firmino Vardy*

    Gazza Ings Soyuncu Aurier

    1. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Looks fine, don't WC

  27. BNMC
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    You know you're bored when you literally wrote out all the FA cup games on a sheet of paper and are "tracking" which teams will blank in GW31.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Make some money my friend 😉

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Hope for a Burnley and Bournemouth loss

    3. HashAttack
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      I'm already planning for MCI dgw - hopefully gw37 with wat / NEW .... I couldn't see any good DGW potential for LEI

      1. BNMC
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Then they have Norwich at home on GW38, they could already be relegated, could be a goal-fest for Kun and co!

  28. HollywoodXI
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Surely there can’t be two better differentials right now than Auba and Aguero? I’ve transferred them both in this week in an attempt to halt my slide into obscurity.

    1. Surfeit of Lampteys
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      You mean you hope so.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Totally lol

    2. BNMC
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Both? I want Auba but will not bring him in until February 1st at the earliest. Anything could happen in this transfer window.

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Good poker decisions? Don’t play poker here so don’t totally appreciate this analogy ...

      1. HashAttack
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        not really - Auba price is locked so the only affect an early purchase can have is to worsen the situation - there is no up side

        In poker, you do not want to do anything that has no upside and only a potential down side

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Ok I learn something today 😀

    4. BNMC
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Also, username checks out.

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Auba can be a holy nightmare to own

      And Pep can make Kun even more frustrating than Auba

      It’s a gamble that could really pay off too though

      But Jimmy, Ings, Vardy seems to churn out quite a reasonable amount of points as. A3 man forward line, and with DCL, Deeney, Deulofeu & even Tammy knocking about all for pretty cheap, I struggle to endorse an expensive forward at the minute

      Albeit when Kun is fit, nailed and on form, he doesn’t even need fixtures to haul, he’s just too good

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I’ve managed to keep Vardy too. So my front three is Aguero, Auba and Vardy

      2. Alexis Nonsense
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Kun is never nailed though, only if Pep is sacked

  29. Surfeit of Lampteys
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    'Fantasy premier League and Texas hold em poker have a lot of similarities.'

    No they really don't.

    1. HashAttack
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Putting TC on a Liverpool player for two away games is the equivalent of tilt

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        Firmino?

        1. HashAttack
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          still not TC material - he was my captain

          1. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            He is my TC

      2. Surfeit of Lampteys
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not sure about that. Maybe but it's an overrated chip anyway.

        1. BNMC
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 2 months ago

          Maybe next season I should just burn it in GW1 like The 12th Man did, on a premium player with a nice home fixture to start the season.

          1. Surfeit of Lampteys
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            It's really not half the gamble or risk people make it out to be. I used mine on Sterling at home to Southampton. 3 points but hey, they'd just been beaten 0-9!

          2. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 2 months ago

            Why not

    2. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      It's nothing compared to "fpl and chess have a lot of similarities" from couple months ago 😛

  30. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 2 months ago

    Inter Milan buying up PL misfits and climbing Serie A (Lukaku, Sanchez, Young, Eriksen and Moses). Shows that the quality of player in the PL, at least at the big clubs, is still decent.

    1. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 2 months ago

      Serie A has become trashy- it used to be classy

      Roma players look like a prison team

      When Ederson moves to Serie A, he will fit right in - mr Neck Tatoo