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FPL GW18 Scout Picks - Final Selection

Pickford

O’Reilly
van Dijk
Keane
Saliba

Saka
Wilson
Wirtz

Thiago
Haaland
Ekitiké

Dubravka
Alderete
Miley
Le Fée

GW18 Captain Poll

Price Change Predictions

Risers

Fallers

Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Gordon	NEW	7.3m	126.4%	Very Likely
Woltemade	NEW	7.3m	117.5%	Very Likely
Cunha	MUN	8.0m	105.9%	Very Likely
L.Miley	NEW	4.4m	111.1%	Very Likely
Gravenberch	LIV	5.6m	109.6%	Very Likely
Stach	LEE	4.8m	103.6%	Very Likely
Mukiele	SUN	4.2m	99.4%	Maybe
Lewis-Potter	BRE	4.8m	98.8%	Maybe
James	CHE	5.6m	94.8%	Maybe
Verbruggen	BHA	4.4m	91.1%	Unlikely
Virgil	LIV	5.9m	87.9%	Unlikely
Truffert	BOU	4.5m	88.5%	Unlikely
Alderete	SUN	4.0m	87.2%	Unlikely
O'Reilly	MCI	5.3m	86.6%	Unlikely
Dalot	MUN	4.4m	80.0%	Unlikely
Ekitiké	LIV	9.0m	72.7%	Unlikely
Chalobah	CHE	5.5m	73.4%	Unlikely
Mount	MUN	5.9m	70.5%	Unlikely
Rogers	AVL	7.3m	56.9%	Unlikely
Tete	FUL	4.5m	69.0%	Unlikely
Andersen	FUL	4.6m	69.1%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	63.6%	Unlikely
Roefs	SUN	4.8m	61.6%	Unlikely
Petrović	BOU	4.5m	62.4%	Unlikely
E.Le Fée	SUN	4.9m	58.7%	Unlikely
Saliba	ARS	5.9m	56.7%	Unlikely
Cullen	BUR	5.0m	57.1%	Unlikely
Trossard	ARS	6.9m	56.9%	Unlikely
Van den Berg	BRE	4.5m	56.6%	Unlikely
Konaté	LIV	5.4m	55.3%	Unlikely
Dúbravka	BUR	4.0m	53.3%	Unlikely
Pickford	EVE	5.5m	51.5%	Unlikely
Wirtz	LIV	8.1m	49.3%	Unlikely
Smith Rowe	FUL	5.6m	49.8%	Unlikely
Semenyo	BOU	7.7m	47.0%	Unlikely
Rice	ARS	7.2m	43.8%	Unlikely
Heaven	MUN	3.8m	46.3%	Unlikely
Raya	ARS	6.0m	46.9%	Unlikely
A.Becker	LIV	5.4m	46.4%	Unlikely
Guéhi	CRY	5.3m	44.4%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Thiago	BRE	7.1m	193.5%	Very Likely
Minteh	BHA	6.1m	134.3%	Very Likely
Muñoz	CRY	5.9m	127.8%	Very Likely
Barnes	NEW	6.2m	121.1%	Very Likely
Coleman	EVE	4.3m	123.0%	Very Likely
Tchaouna	BUR	4.9m	114.4%	Very Likely
Neave	NEW	4.4m	112.4%	Very Likely
Vicario	TOT	4.9m	110.5%	Very Likely
Mamardashvili	LIV	4.3m	106.3%	Very Likely
Raúl	FUL	6.3m	105.6%	Very Likely
Mosquera	ARS	5.4m	107.1%	Very Likely
James	LEE	5.3m	105.7%	Very Likely
Udogie	TOT	4.4m	103.4%	Very Likely
Pedro Porro	TOT	5.3m	102.4%	Very Likely
March	BHA	5.8m	100.5%	Very Likely
Nørgaard	ARS	5.2m	100.8%	Very Likely
Colwill	CHE	4.8m	100.6%	Very Likely
Harriman-Annous	ARS	4.5m	98.6%	Likely
Tchatchoua	WOL	4.5m	99.4%	Likely
Fer López	WOL	5.2m	99.2%	Likely
Nwaneri	ARS	5.1m	100.6%	Very Likely
Kulusevski	TOT	6.4m	99.1%	Maybe
De Ligt	MUN	5.0m	97.5%	Maybe
Yoro	MUN	4.3m	96.5%	Maybe
Odobert	TOT	5.3m	98.5%	Maybe
Webster	BHA	4.4m	95.8%	Maybe
Barnes	BUR	4.3m	95.3%	Maybe
Nallo	LIV	3.8m	94.3%	Unlikely
Ajer	BRE	4.4m	93.7%	Unlikely
Phillips	MCI	4.8m	93.4%	Unlikely
Doucouré	CRY	4.9m	92.3%	Unlikely
Ndiaye	EVE	6.3m	91.0%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	92.1%	Unlikely
Bayindir	MUN	4.8m	91.6%	Unlikely
P.M.Sarr	TOT	4.6m	90.4%	Unlikely
Bruun Larsen	BUR	5.3m	90.6%	Unlikely
Hannibal	BUR	4.8m	89.7%	Unlikely
Piroe	LEE	5.0m	87.7%	Unlikely
McAtee	NFO	5.1m	87.9%	Unlikely
Tasker	BHA	3.9m	87.7%	Unlikely

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Watchlists

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	B
Up	Pickford	EVE	B, Vs
Down	Alisson	LIV	C, Vs
Down	Donnarumma	MCI	B, Vs, Sus
No Change	Kelleher	BRE	B, Vs
No Change	Dubravka	BUR	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:46pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	C, Vs
No Change	Jurriën Timber	ARS	C
Up	Keane	EVE	Vs
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	B, Vs
No Change	Marc Guehi	CRY	A
No Change	van den Berg	BRE	C, Vs
No Change	Thiaw	NEW	C
Down	Andersen	FUL	C
No Change	Milenkovic	NFO	C, Sus
No Change	van Hecke	BHA	A
No Change	Mukiele	SUN	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:50pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Saka	ARS	A
No Change	Foden	MCI	A, Vs
Up	Matheus Cunha	MUN	A
No Change	Semenyo	BOU	A
Up	Wirtz	LIV	B, Vs
Up	Grealish	EVE	B, Vs
No Change	Bruno Guimarães	NEW	B, Sus
No Change	Schade	BRE	C, Vs
Down	Minteh	BHA	C
No Change	Anderson	NFO	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:54pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	A, Vs
Up	Ekitiké	LIV	A, Vs
Up	Bowen	WHU	B, Vs
Down	Thiago	BRE	C, Vs, Inj
No Change	Mateta	CRY	C
No Change	Woltemade	NEW	B, Rest

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:56pm

GW18 Chip Poll

Opinion

12 August 2020 263 comments

Skonto Rigga

Our weekly Question Time feature will return in the new season.

Ahead of each Gameweek, we’ll be asking a rotating group of Fantasy managers their thoughts on the burning Fantasy Premier League issues – be it players, teams, strategy, chips or anything else that is prompting debate.

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Well you know, Triffic
5 years, 4 months ago
Not saying he's a good person but I think fpl should be separated from political and personal beliefs. He won fpl fair and square. He might be a racist **** but he still won fpl.

If the premier League are so big on this will they also strip John Terry of his winners medals and ban Ledley King (racially abused someone on video) from sitting on the Spurs bench next season?

I've seen some of the people virtue signalling on twitter about this issue previously post statements in support of political parties and representatives who have proven track records of anti-Semitism. Will these fpl managers also be banned?

My point is, it's a slippery slope and it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming seasons as this now sets a precedent.
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1. Eat my goal!
  5 years, 4 months ago
  And another one!
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2. Sanchit
  5 years, 4 months ago
  My goodness!
  So you're trying to say if Suarez play fair on the field but racially abuses Evra before/after the match.. he should not get banned?
  
  Rather than vouching for Alexander, if you say that Terry and King should be banned.. that'd make much more sense.
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  1. @persecuted_by_mods
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Exactly this.
    
    These hypothetical "WELL WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF X, AND WHAT IF Y = B" people are really telling on themselves
    
    His whole point is literally just "aha nobody can react perfectly 100% of the time to things like this"
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  2. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    No I'm saying ban Suarez. But also strip other proven racists of their achievements. E.g. Terry
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  3. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I'm not vouching I literally call him a racist **** in the opening sentences.....
    
    He is racist and maybe not a nice guy but he won lol.
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  4. GreennRed
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Yeah. That's exactly what he said......
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  5. MosF94
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Are you saying if Suarez won the title that season he should've had his medal stripped away from him?
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3. Castiel
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Some first comment. I think the point is that it will highlight that your comments and actions will have repercussions so don't say hateful things (or preferably even think them). They couldn't risk it being exposed that they knew of these comments and still announced him the winner of the global competition so by the looks of it, he got what he deserved
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4. Goonsquad245
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Nah he didn’t win FPL, he was disqualified.
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  1. SackWenger
    5 years, 4 months ago
    He won fpl as far as I’m concerned. Nothing he said or did enhanced his chances of winning the competition. With over 7 million entrants he got the highest score.
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    1. Goonsquad245
      5 years, 4 months ago
      just checked the top of overall ranks and he's not there? Doesn't look as though he won to me.
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      1. SackWenger
        5 years, 4 months ago
        That’s why I said as far as I’m concerned.
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        Goonsquad245
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Ahhhh - got you.
        
        As far as I'm concerned, I won FPL this year.
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        SackWenger
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Your fpl score this season may suggest otherwise. His has probably been removed before your come back with the ‘he scored zero points’ but he did score higher than everyone else.
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        Goonsquad245
        5 years, 4 months ago
        What's FPL score got to do with it? As far as I'm concerned, I won.
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        SackWenger
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Yawn
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        Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Get out. I beat you
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        Goonsquad245
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Not as far as I'm concerned
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Not just. It's a fact. He scored the most points fair and square. FPL should check social media for the rest of the top 1000 and ban anyone with discriminatory material. Otherwise it looks a lot like they're discriminating against one player. Can't wait for the book. The COVID FPL Champ's Assasins. 😉
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        Epic Fail
        5 years, 4 months ago
        it wasn't FPL who went digging for this, they were presented with evidence. If they are presented with evidence of the rest of the top 1,000 then yes they should be deleted too.
        
        This wasn't a crusade against 1 man by FPL.
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        1 man was banned. See how that stands up in court.
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        Goonsquad245
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Probably pretty well tbh. Doubt they've been presented with damning evidence of racism perpetrated by any of their other prize winners.
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        Nightcrawler
        5 years, 4 months ago
        "Damning evidence of racism"
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5. @ocprodigy
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Try saying it’s a slippery slope to people such as myself who’ve been the victims of racial abuse in our lifetimes from people who believe it’s “banter” to make such comments.
  
  This train of thought is precisely what allows racism to live and be engrained in our society - “I’m not racist, I just make jokes about skin colour”. It’s these kind of group think comments which lead to bigger events - such as the Bulgaria vs England game (which I’m not linking him to, but using as reference of group think).
  
  At the end of the day the EPL are very clearly making a stance against racism and his comments were in direct conflict with that stance. While he can excuse it as private talk and so on that shouldn’t be a valid reason. If he publically tweeted it, would you be saying the same?
  
  Simply put he needs to reflect on his mindset and his use of those comments, meanwhile FPL had every right to delete his account.
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  1. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I've experienced racism countless times to. You're missing the point. I'm not trivialising what was said I'm saying that it doesn't detract from him winning fpl. There are many instances of sportspeople with questionable beliefs winning trophies and medals. The fact they are 'bad' people doesn't mean their achievements were any less.
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  2. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Also you didn't address the John Terry and Ledley King points....both proven racists. King called someone a **** on video for goodness sake. But I guess that's ok right and he should be able to sit on spurs bench?
    
    You can't pick and choose with this stuff.
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    1. GreennRed
      5 years, 4 months ago
      You need to stop making sense here, someone might read it!
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6. zes
  5 years, 4 months ago
  It’s a slippery slope! If I can’t call someone the N word, what next? Next you will be saying I cant use homophobic slurs or that I must treat Muslim people with decency too! The horror!
  
  Seriously though if you entered a competition in real life, be it a chess tournament, tennis tournament etc and you were overheard calling someone a ‘filthy little N-Word’, you’d be kicked out of it and rightfully so. People get banned from football stadia for saying that, don’t get the issue at all, glad he is kicked out.
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  1. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Missed the point again. Slippery slope was alluding to how hard it will be for fpl to uphold this precedent going forward as for example someone may criticise Israel and be accused of anti-Semitism. What happens then? Does fpl ban the person?
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    1. zes
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Erm no they wouldn’t. Criticising Israel is legitimate and obviously not the same as calling someone a filthy N-word which is just straight up racism.
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      1. Brosstan
        5 years, 4 months ago
        In the US they are very close to passing literal legislation that defines criticism of Israel as a nation state as anti-semitism. Look it up. The Western world follows the US on a lot of issues, so theres every reason to be concerned that European countries might follow suit down the line. If the UK does the same, will the FPL start banning people who have expressed concern about Israel's treatment of Palestinians; perhaps advocated for boycotts?
        
        Fwiw, I personally agree that a ban for racism for the former winner was correct. But it is also a completely valid concern to ask questions about the possible ramifications of this decision down the line. The window of what is defined as hate speech is constantly changing, and very quickly these days, and you might suddenly find yourself disagreeing with where the government and/or entities like FPL draw that line.
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        Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 4 months ago
        What is wrong with the US?
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        Brosstan
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Everything, the biggest problem Europe has is the insistence on copying the political discourse from that shitehole
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        The US is a great country with, mostly, great people. The monied elite 'left' will continue to keep the uneducated, gullible, hardworking Americans down and believing what they see on TV and the internet. More than the US at fault here in 2020. More people worldwide allow themselves to be dictated to by the internet, the IOT the new tool, the world is becoming ever more stupid year on year. When you see people spend their hard earned cashi on a device to turn on their heating from their phone you can see where cjvilization is headed.
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-empire-decline/
        
        All good things, and seemingly good things, come to an end eventually.
        
        If my wife and I go to work every day, pay our taxes, raise our two kids, stay on the strsight and narrow but get annoyed by the music and noise from those next door living off benefits, never working, then that's ok. It's ok if they're Irish. But if they're foreign nationals and we're unhappy about the disturbance the PC brigade will call us racist, which we aren't. Something not right there.
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        zes
        5 years, 4 months ago
        No one is going to call you a racist for complaining about noisy neighbours as long as you doing call them ‘filthy N-words’ like the bloke who got banned did.
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Ah they are though. They are. Even if we don't use inflammatory terms. Just as many Irish people could be d@##heads as foreigners. Some anti-Brexiteers lazily used that tactic after they lost the referendum.
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        zes
        5 years, 4 months ago
        You will have to link me to the thing you are talking about in regards to Israel. But I think that if you are honest you know there is no chance of being banned in the future for criticising Israel. I think on balance I will weigh that almost 0 risk against my feeling that people shouldnt call others ‘filthy N-words’ and decide a ban is good.
        
        Also whenever people in society have tried to push for a fairer society for others, they’ve faced the ‘slippery slope’ hysteria you are pushing. When gay marriage was debated, people used to say ‘I am ok with gay marriage, but worried about where it will lead. Will they be allowed to marry kids next?’
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        Brosstan
        5 years, 4 months ago
        It's not hard to Google it...
        
        Also slippery slope is not a fallacy. You can agree or disagree wether the gradual changes that follow new social norms and laws is good or bad, but there's no denying that for instance on the topic of homosexuality in society, a lot of the things people claimed as slippery slope arguments back in the 70s is now reality (for instance homosexuality being though in schools as part of sexual education) even though no, you can't marry kids.
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        GreennRed
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Or be an out professional footballer.
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        Brosstan
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I didn't say it was a bad thing I said it's undeniable that there has been a 'slippery slope' as argued by anti-gay activists decades ago. Slippery slope is a thing in all manner of social developments, the term just sounds like it's always a bad thing when you could also argue it's a good thing.
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        zes
        5 years, 4 months ago
        ‘Israel racism USA’ is gonna return a lot of results lol, I was just wondering what you were talking about specifically.
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        Piggs Boson
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I agree, I think FPL were right to do what they did, it's not like he's in prison, they're just exercising their right to distance themselves from him.
        
        But in terms of the law, yeah the legality of racist speech is a thorny issue, because as you say, who is the overriding authority that decides if something is racist. I know racism is often obvious, as in this case, but sometimes it's not. Rowan Atkinson, Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens have some great speeches on why freedom of speech is absolutely essential to a progressive society. Free exchange of ideas and debate is important.
        
        I hate racism, I find it abhorrent, wish it would just go away already.
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        Well you know, Triffic
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Yes this is what i was angling at but perhaps i didn't put it across as such.
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        Piggs Boson
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Communication is hard, I'm really bad at it myself. People make assumptions and read meaning between your words that doesn't exist, and they're so damn sure of themselves too. It's so easy to be misunderstood...
        
        I usually like to let the more accomplished communicators do the talking! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
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    2. sully29
      5 years, 4 months ago
      They'll treat individual cases as they come, as common sense would dictate. There's no reason punishing X means you also have to punish Y if Y is clearly quite different. As criticising Israel would be when compared to calling Raheem Sterling the N-word.
      
      There's no slippery slope because they're allowed to do whatever they like. If they decide what someone else did isn't as bad then that's entirely up to them, it's at their discretion.
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7. liner
  5 years, 4 months ago
  This PC bull*** will destroy everything. U all calling someone rasist (serious accusation) because of one word. I guess all of us said some bad thing in affect and be morons sometimes (me first), but that doesnt mean we wont someone to die or anything. He done stupid thing but dont destroy that guy and mark him as evil. In these days u can say anything and someone will get offended for sure. Even in private chat. One more reason to dont have any social media because u are followed
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  1. liner
    5 years, 4 months ago
    misspelled some word, sorry for that...
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    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 months ago
      No worries, you also made very stupid points too
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  2. zes
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Why are people so desperate to make this a PC/ anti-woke thing? It’s not PC to have an issue with someone calling someone a filthy N-word, it’s just basic decency. Not being a racist is PC now, christ
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  3. FFSbet.com
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Nan,all saints here they didn't sad bad word in their life.
    Probably the same ones that want to change black hole coz its sound offensive.
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    1. sully29
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Amazing to watch people tell on themselves like this. As if very the notion that other people haven't done things like call players the N-word is beyond comprehension.
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    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 months ago
      How are you simultaneously holding the position that nothing is racist and people are overreacting, but that 99% of people probably make racist comments
      
      Which is it? It doesn't exist and is overblown or secretly everyone is racist in private
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      1. FFSbet.com
        5 years, 4 months ago
        First,don't put your words like they are mine.
        Second, didn't said it isn't racist.
        Third,99 have made(not make) a racist comment in their life.
        
        If you haven't congratulations you are in top1%
        
        But judging by your comments and aggressive behaviour highly unlikely
        
        Try with some other with those twists and spins
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        @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Okay fine, but what does it have to do with this specific issue of a racist comment being made and then highlighted to fpl? What's your solution again?
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        FFSbet.com
        5 years, 4 months ago
        You are interesting,you reply like i have RMT post and need to say what i think on issue.
        
        Walk on
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        @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Haha now you have nothing to say, surprise surprise. Easy to play the contrarion isn't it. Mug.
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        FFSbet.com
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I like that calm anty racist composure.
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        @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Check out the calm police over here, next I won't even be able to think about not being calm 🙁
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    3. Oi! Shadders!
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Possibly the single most stupid comment I've ever read on here. And that's saying something.
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  4. @persecuted_by_mods
    5 years, 4 months ago
    1) nobody has wished him death
    2) nobody called him evil
    3) not all of us have said the N word
    
    Other than 100% of it, great post!
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    1. marko_v_111
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Did he say the "N" word?
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  5. Rhinos
    5 years, 4 months ago
    ok so as long as you don't want someone to die it's fine? Feel like this is quite a low bar
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8. farmerfat
  5 years, 4 months ago
  The real **** is his mate that sent the chats to the EPL.
  What a snake XD
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  1. Nightcrawler
    5 years, 4 months ago
    If he really wanted to bring about a change he would have simply put the ss on socal media and confronted him directly
    
    Contacting fpl shows 2 things. He is jealous and he himself has made such comments before
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  2. Epic Fail
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Sounds to me that it wasn't a group of actual mates anyway. Just a group chat with FPL people such as you lot on here. I wouldn't trust you bar stewards as far as as I could throw you.
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    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 months ago
      This, most people are focusing on the omg his mate is such a snake. To me I'm thinking this guy actually felt comfortable saying a racist word in front of someone that wasn't even his close friend
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    2. Piggs Boson
      5 years, 4 months ago
      There are many snakes in the grass.
      
      I've seen a couple of commenters discussing me whilst I've been away, usually spreading lies. I don't mind, whatever keeps them entertained, but I sure as hell wouldn't trust them...
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9. Baines on Toast...
  5 years, 4 months ago
  The slippery slope fallacy is a common argument employed by people sympathetic towards racism.
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  1. Tomerick
    5 years, 4 months ago
    And it doesn’t even make sense. That guy’s freedom of speech has not been impacted at all, he is simply enjoying the consequences of his choices.
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  2. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Repost from above:
    
    Missed the point again. Slippery slope was alluding to how hard it will be for fpl to uphold this precedent going forward as for example someone may criticise Israel and be accused of anti-Semitism. What happens then? Does fpl ban the person?
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    1. Boris Bodega
      5 years, 4 months ago
      One would hope they would approach each instance on it's own merits. There isn't a blanket catch-all rule that can be applied, clearly they felt this idiot's comments were unacceptable and acted accordingly. Their rules are clear, have a read of them.
      
      Personally I feel it sends out a strong message that this sort of behaviour is wrong, and in fact it is even worse that he thinks it's ok as long as it is in a private chat. Racism is ignorance, and he is a prime example of it.
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    2. Goonsquad245
      5 years, 4 months ago
      It's a judgement call FPL need to make case by case. In this instance it was a pretty easy one from their perspective. In future it might not be.
      
      It is a fair question to ask where the line is drawn, but nobody is going to be able to answer it. All we know (or should know) is that this instance falls squarely the wrong side of that line.
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10. Rhinos
  5 years, 4 months ago
  the only precedent it sets is don't be racist. And this is a,bad thing because?
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  1. Oi! Shadders!
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Spot on.
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11. Oi! Shadders!
  5 years, 4 months ago
  You lost me at 'virtue signalling'. Lazy phrase usually used my people who have few virtues.
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  1. Oi! Shadders!
    5 years, 4 months ago
    *by
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  2. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Get over yourself. You know nothing about who i am but if you want to presume i am one of few virtues based on raising a valid point of discussion, well that reflects more on you than anything else.
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12. P-h-o-e-n-i-x
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Does anyone think that this post has seen enough discussion to get Hulked?
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13. Shark Team
  5 years, 4 months ago
  England has a Tory as a prime minister, English people were always more of tradition guys, mostly conservatives this is why racism and other politically right-wing opinions are so common in your country(and Italy too). But as the years come and go lots of things change while English people can hardly ever consider it. I see lots of people who ignore/forget/don't know the meaning of globalization...
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  1. Well you know, Triffic
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Scandinavia is typically left wing and there is a huge surge in popularity of the right parties. Your argument is simplistic and not consistent with reality. If anything you are displaying irony as you seem to have a very stereotyped view of the english.
    
    You can sit in your ivory tower and try and say England is racist, but that is not the case. Every country in the world exhibits forms of systematic racism, to say England is any worse or better is rubbish. We have a long way to go in this country but as a non-white english person (not that my race should matter), i feel this country is not racist. Yes i've experienced racism here but i've also experienced a fantastic life and people 99% of the time. I won't let 1% influence my perception of the 99%.
    
    Tell me which country you deem to be some sort of social utopia and i will guarantee you i can find instances of racist attacks and a 'racist' history.
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14. ASOUSA12
  5 years, 4 months ago
  He should have won FPL but no prizes awarded to him. He scored the highest number of points in 19/20 and nobody should be able to take that away from him
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15. Skorr
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Racist dude gets kicked.
  My rank goes up by +1.
  Win / win.
  
  Forget about the 'slippery slope' discussion; do what is right at the time it need's doing.
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16. Rasping Drive
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I don’t think FPL had much choice. The issue would have certainly gone public and inaction on their part would not have reflected well on them. They had to set an example. Alex apologised on Twitter and his apology seemed genuine so I think we should accept it and move on
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Moderately content penguin
5 years, 4 months ago
Jack Harrison price anyone?

Getting more convinced about the sense of going Leeds early - now just wondering about some prices.

I watched a fair amount of Bielsa last night. A lot of clubs are going to be very surprised early on imo. They may think they’ve done their research but I’m doubting they’ll have done 4 hours video analysis of every game in the last 12 months. He’ll know way more about them than vice versa.

The pattern with Bielsa sides is that they start like a train and then run out fo steam. I’m expecting that here too - the step up in quality can be overstated when there’s an ace Champo side and there’s definite X factor to Leeds. Get in early when they’re most likely to fly is where I’m headed.
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1. Andy_Social
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I'm extremely excited about Bielsa and seeing how his team plays. I'm also very positive they'll make a terrific impact on the PL. But Harrison? 5.5m I reckon, but I wouldn't consider him. He doesn't seem to offer much in terms of goals of assists.
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    From what I’ve read he’s in fact an increasing factor there - and the Man City pedigree is an added temptation. He wouldn’t need to be that bountiful to offer value
    
    Tricky bit with Leeds is that goals are plentiful but are spread about. Profligacy from Bamford is of course a factor but so is the system. The way the front 5 operate is - I think - to rotate in so many different permutations that it’s hard to tell where to defend.
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    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 4 months ago
      I think they'll be a bit like Sheff United in that regard. There was no value in the midfield or up top; it was all in defence and I think Leeds will be similar. Having said that, I will be on the lookout for a 4.5 midfielder who plays and probably two cheap-as-chips strikers who take the field, so I might end up with Leeds mid/fwd assets on that basis alone.
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      1. Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Leeds spend the whole game on the front foot. They are likely to dominate possession against just about any PL team. It’s what Bielsa does. Ran Arsenal ragged for instance - doesn’t matter that it was a sub par selection to me.
        
        Defence is a bother for me as losing the lad to Brighton could be a big loss. They’ll find someone new to train up but that’ll take a bit of time
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        Andy_Social
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Ben White - yeh, that's true. I'm still in the zone of looking at their opening fixtures and the cheapest bargains. What'll more likely happen is I'll wait until GW5 with the Inty Break, Transfer Window, Big Boy late starts all done and dusted and see where Leeds are.
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        Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Bielsa’s system requires all the back 3 to be 100% comfortable on the ball - quasi midfielders. They’re in short supply. I’d back him to find one and train him up but we start again in a few weeks
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      2. Camzy
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Leeds create a ton of chances though. They're no Sheffield United in that regard. Bamford got by far the most chances in the Championship last season and just had an abysmal 37% conversion rate.
        
        I think if they sign a half decent forward (huge if) that player could be the next Michu or better in Leeds' system. I was really hoping they'd get Cavani, because he'd have been amazing, but without, world class forwards are hard to find.
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    2. Moderately content penguin
      5 years, 4 months ago
      The City pedigree may be a stretch of course if you consider Bamford and Solanke. But thing is City aren’t selling him - Chelsea and Liverpool knew what they were about!! Also makes me think he continues to be highly rated at City and the one club in the land to train him best in City ways is right now Leeds!
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  2. Lovren an elevator
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Who if not Harrison at 5.5? The attacking returns were very spread amongst the team last season, and Harrison seems the most nailed and far forward of the options currently? Hernandez is ofcourse a consideration but one must assume his minutes will be managed to such an extent that his fpl potential is affected too negatively?
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2. The Knights Template
  5 years, 4 months ago
  5.5
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3. Azathoth
  5 years, 4 months ago
  No less than 5m,no more than 6m.i will be very surprised if the FPL towers price him 6.5m.
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  1. Piggs Boson
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Yeah, I think 5.5m is a good price for a top promoted midfielder.
    
    When they hit 6.0/6.5m you have to start comparing them to top defenders like Doherty, which they are unlikely to get near points-wise. If any promoted midfielder is 6.0+ I won't consider them.
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4. LangerznMash
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I'd guess both Harrison and Helder Costa priced at 5.5m however the fact Adama Traore was 5.0 makes me think one of these will be too.
  I'd love to see their stats for Expected Goals, Big chances missed and Big chances created.
  
  I'm a Leeds fan and watched every game this season. I think Harrison could (and should) have got many more goals and assists but for poor finishing from both himself and Bamford.
  
  Costa looked really lively towards the end of the season getting in some great attacking positions. You can really see an improvement in his game since he last disappointing crack at the prem. He could be a great FPL asset.
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Ty for the insight
    
    As a fan did you pick up on growth from Harrison through the season - or am I barking up the wrong tree?
    
    Perhaps a false comparison but I’m at least partially thinking of Barnes at Leicester as a point of reference as someone at the same stage if development
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    1. LangerznMash
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Harrison has been pretty consistent for the past two seasons now, you know exactly what you are getting from him. Works hard, lots of sprints, good dribbling and can whip in a good cross. I don't think he is a natural finisher though as he seems to fluff lots of great opportunities.
      Costa on the other hand has been very frustrating, because you know what he is capable of but he only delivers in little patches and otherwise is largely anonymous. But as I said, his good moments were becoming more frequent as the season progressed. He will have lots of blanks but on his day can both score and assist (and win pens).
      Klich is our reliable penalty taker. He is nailed on for 90 mins every game and is involved in most of our attacking plays spending lots of time in and around the opponent's box..
      
      TL;DR basically if any of Harrison, Costa or Klich are priced 5.0 then they are a great value option.
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      1. Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Ty again
        
        Klich is first on my list anyway but wondering whether there’s someone else with a possibly higher upside. If I read it right Klich may well return consistently enough but will never be the great value asset
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5. @persecuted_by_mods
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I think they key will be timing when they run out of steam, it could potentially be a lot earlier now that his team is a total underdog
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Not sure I agree
    
    They’ll likely run out of steam. But “total underdog” could (bold underlined) be way off the mark. They are going to be hugely difficult to play against. They’ll offer a pattern of play that will be very unfamiliar - SU multiplied
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    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 months ago
      A promoted team is simply a total underdog in the premier League, I think they'll do well and be the surprise package but they're still an underdog by my definition
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6. Rhinos
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Leeds running out of steam is a complete and utter myth. Till Bielsa came we've simply not had a good enough team to get promoted, nothing to do with fitness. Last season we blew it but running and tacking sats didnt drop off at all, just an inexplicable loss to Wigan and a brainfart from our keeper in the playoffs cost us. Won 12 of the last 14 games this season so a drop off is drivel
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Don’t completely disagree
    
    But the pattern stems from Bielsa over a long period of time. His teams very regularly fall at the final stretch. They lose maybe 5% of energy say and that leads to near misses. It is you’re right possible to overstate this one
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    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 4 months ago
      A 38-game PL season versus a 46-game CH season might be a mitigating factore here.
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7. Ginkapo FPL
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Is Bielsa's system really that out there? Norwich and Sheff United really surprised everyone with their systems, but they were very different to thr norm.
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    It’ll be less surprising in the PL than the championship but only because City play in the PL.
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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      5 years, 4 months ago
      But if they are that similar to City then the teams know how to play against it on the whole. Isnt that a major issue?
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      1. Rhinos
        5 years, 4 months ago
        systems shouldn't surprise anyone these days, there's endless analysis to be done. It's whether teams can match Leeds energy, if they can it might be a long season
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        Andy_Social
        5 years, 4 months ago
        We all knew about Sheff Utd's 'overlapping centrebacks', yet opposition were repeatedly surprised by the way Blades played. I reckon Bielsa will befuddle plenty average PL managers, and they won't have drinks breaks to make emergency tactical adjustments!
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        Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        They may not surprise but then the question remains on whose terms the game gets played. My strong expectation is that the majority of Leeds matches will get played on Leeds terms. That’s a plus. Whether there is sufficient quality to make that count is another question
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      2. Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        How well do teams cope with City 🙂
        
        It’s one thing to adapt to a top two side but another to a promoted side. Also Bielsa is very out there. No compromises will be made. They will try to dominate the ball against everyone.
        
        This is bit as if Cruyff had decided to hack it for a season in the championship. There may be other teams around who have been influenced by the philosophy but none will take that philosophy to its extreme.
        
        Cruyff and Bielsa are a natural comparison. He is hugely influential on how the game has developed. He is also very pure in his philosophy. Pep Poch and Simeone have borrowed from him but none are quite as rigorous as him. A once in a generation manager who never managed a big big team
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tim
5 years, 4 months ago
Any idea when can we start to build our new teams?
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1. Epic Fail
  5 years, 4 months ago
  No.
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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Has no one sunk to the depths of producing their own price list and spreadsheet yet?
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    1. Tomerick
      5 years, 4 months ago
      I believe Foo Fighter has plumbed those depths.
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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Blink 182 hit rock bottom. Awful
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2. CaptMidnight
  5 years, 4 months ago
  August 24
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3. Andy_Social
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I've been doing little else for the last two weeks!
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Ginkapo FPL
5 years, 4 months ago
Just a thought. If you are unsure about how to react to the knews that someone got disqualified from FPL for racism, discuss it with your friends and family. Have an open honest conversation about it. A text based forum is perhaps not the best place to convey nuanced ideas.
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1. Ginkapo FPL
  5 years, 4 months ago
  News
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2. @persecuted_by_mods
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Give us a few more minutes, we're about to solve the whole bloody thing
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  1. Piggs Boson
    5 years, 4 months ago
    😀
    
    I kind of like it when FFS goes off topic... makes it feel like more of a community.
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    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 4 months ago
      You do? So ..... Kamala Harris, eh? 😉
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      1. Piggs Boson
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Never even heard of a Kamala Harris before!
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3. MTPockets
  5 years, 4 months ago
  FPL don't want any association with racism.
  Nor do I. It's not at all nuanced.
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4. Tomerick
  5 years, 4 months ago
  This is the least nuanced topic of all time. A racist got banned for being a racist. All decent people abhor racism and would not make any attempt to justify, condone or excuse the behaviour. There really isn’t another side to this.
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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Apparently it is to some and simply claiming moral superiority does not help educate.
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    1. Tomerick
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Debating with racists/racist sympathisers only serves to legitimise their view as a valid counter. There are not two sides to this.
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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 4 months ago
        So why on earth are you all debating? Take the time to educate properly. Whatever you do dont engage with it half heartedly.
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        Tomerick
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I’m not debating. I’m stating how it is. It’s not open for debate.
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        Ginkapo FPL
        5 years, 4 months ago
        To be fair you arent part of that mess of a top post.
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      2. The Polymath
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Yep. Even racists are surprised when they are invited to discuss their views in a public arena.
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5. The Polymath
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Some family and friends will switch off as soon as you mention FPL. 😀
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@persecuted_by_mods
5 years, 4 months ago
So what piece of news will fpl release today to give us a much needed distraction
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1. The Polymath
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Joe kicked his dog and has been sacked.
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  1. @persecuted_by_mods
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Justice for Joe, the woke agenda has to stop. 99% of us have thought about kicking a dog!
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  2. Tomerick
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Well if a man can’t kick his dog in the privacy of his own home it really is the slipperiest of slopes. What if that dog was going to be the next Hitler? What would you do then? *sarcasm disclaimer for the hard of thinking*
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    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Finally someone speaking up against the pro dog agenda! What's next can't kick a dog today, tomorrow I accidentally overfeed my cat and they jail me for abuse! Where does it stop? I'm totally asking these questions as a concerned person rather than someone obfuscating issues and if you don't have an answer for every hypothetical then your viewpoint can't be right can it
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2. Botman and Robben
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Hoping for a price/position reveal.
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  1. @persecuted_by_mods
    5 years, 4 months ago
    TAA at 8.5 is my prediction
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    1. Botman and Robben
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Probably. At 8.0, everyone would have him. 8.5 would make people think about it.
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      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        Even at 8.5 if Liverpool can up their clean sheets he will get an insane amount of points
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    2. Zimo
      5 years, 4 months ago
      He'll most likely be 7.5
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Moderately content penguin
5 years, 4 months ago
“If footballers weren’t human I’d never lose”

Think that should be the motto of everyone on here 🙂 It really says all you need to know about Bielsa
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1. @persecuted_by_mods
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Must be a great FIFA player
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  1. Lovren an elevator
    5 years, 4 months ago
    This response deserves more recognition. Funny AF
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2. Ginkapo FPL
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Which season ticket are you buying this year? Palace or Leeds?
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  1. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    🙂
    
    Pay for one and watch the other - not that anyone will go to see any games for the foreseeable. I’m also sadly exiled in Liverpool so no one to watch locally either
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CloudSky
5 years, 4 months ago
Baffling to see how many people here have problems being not racist (and not just here).
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1. The Polymath
  5 years, 4 months ago
  That's why the BLM movement is so important. Every person deserves to be treated with dignity whatever their colour. Racist views in private and public need to be challenged by those present when they are expressed.
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  1. CloudSky
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Hear hear.
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  2. thegame983
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Precisely.
    
    Now I will challenge those views by pulling down statues and attacking police officers.
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    1. Skorr
      5 years, 4 months ago
      To be fair, a man who built his fortune on the back of pain, suffering and the deaths of thousands doesn't warrant a statue in the first place, and pulling it down was long overdue.
      The record of these actions, by him and by others, needs to be recorded clearly and factually in our history to inform the future generations.
      That is the bigger question of why is society unable to find the balance between understanding our past while not glorifying / hiding it.
      
      With regard to attacking police, don't confuse criminal behaviour from some with those exercising their right to protest (including peaceful counter-protest).
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2. Lovren an elevator
  5 years, 4 months ago
  it amazes me how many white people roll their eyes at the BLM movement, or sulk about "surely white lives matter too" they've missed the whole point. But not everyone is smart or compassionate enough to understand the point we (decent people of all and any colour) are trying to make.
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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    5 years, 4 months ago
    If you acknowledge it then you also need to acknowledge that we need to give our power and possessions back. Thats not an easy thing to acknowledge.
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sully29
5 years, 4 months ago
Mark coming back to FFScout or something? See latest FFScout tweet.
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1. Ginkapo FPL
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Isnt that just FPL 2020 is coming soon?
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2. P-h-o-e-n-i-x
  5 years, 4 months ago
  The tweet gives away nothing. It just tells us that "something" or "someone" is coming soon.
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  1. Andy_Social
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Prolly get me prizes taken back with my comment! 😉
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3. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Surely he doesn't want to get his fingerprints on this trainwreck
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Invincibles
5 years, 4 months ago
Whatever your views on the incident (I fully back it) FPL more than entitled to do as they did. Let’s move on.

First names in your draft squads for next szn?

TAA
KDB
fernandes
Auba

Rest will be value for money picks for me..
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1. FOO FIGHTER
  5 years, 4 months ago
  2 blanks incoming.
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  1. Invincibles
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Come again?
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  2. Invincibles
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Bruno, KdB late start?
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    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 4 months ago
      yup
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2. Botman and Robben
  5 years, 4 months ago
  KDB, Bruno likely won't feature in GW1.
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3. Soto Ayam
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Taa, kdb, Bruno, havertz, Timo
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Hughes the Daddy
5 years, 4 months ago
Very illuminating debate re the change of winner thing. For me it highlights how the kick racism out message still has a way to go sadly. People actually arguing against removing someone who called a player the n word! Seriously? Citing the handling of past examples of racism in football or calling it pc-gone-mad is ludicrous. It might upset you slightly that 'the person with most points didn't win' but surely you can see that being racist excludes your participation, end of. If you're arguing otherwise, frankly it suggests you really don't take racism nearly as seriously as you should.
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1. rozzo
  5 years, 4 months ago
  He didn't call him that though did he
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  1. marko_v_111
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Agreed rozzo however he did speak badly about him.
    
    This is very similar to suarez.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/26/luis-suarez-am-i-a-racist-no-absolutely-not-i-was-horrified
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  2. Ginkapo FPL
    5 years, 4 months ago
    He did
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  3. Forza
    5 years, 4 months ago
    He did: https://mobile.twitter.com/FPLRatchet/status/1293210077705502722/photo/1
    
    And he's admitted to it: https://mobile.twitter.com/TooGoodFPL/status/1293236147246817281
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    1. Hits from the Bong
      5 years, 4 months ago
      You’re talking about different N words
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      1. Forza
        5 years, 4 months ago
        True, he used *an* N-word rather than the infamous N-word, but given the context given by the rest of the message (if @FPLRatchet's screenshot is accurate) it's the kind of racism that Hughes The Daddy was originally talking about.
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    2. rozzo
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Thats a common Spanish word. Not defending the guy but it would be helpful if all countries and cultures could agree on what is racist and what isn't.
      
      What other way could he have described Sterling in his native tongue?
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      1. Hits from the Bong
        5 years, 4 months ago
        He could have left his race out of it.
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      2. Botman and Robben
        5 years, 4 months ago
        When people in FPL mention Sterling. Do they have to give a description? Are they confused about whether one is talking about the Indian, Afghan, Jewish or Cambodian Sterling?
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      3. Forza
        5 years, 4 months ago
        The message was in Bulgarian, not Spanish. He's said that it doesn't have the same connotations in Bulgarian but he's also "admitted this is a mean comment worthy of disqualification" (https://mobile.twitter.com/TooGoodFPL/status/1293236148664504320).
        
        Even if the word is less derogatory in Bulgaria, it was wrong to reference Sterling's race as part of a rant against him. It was clearly a racist comment given the context, and Antonov himself has said that "I deserve my punishment from EPL and from you" (https://mobile.twitter.com/TooGoodFPL/status/1293236156247748621).
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    3. marko_v_111
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Negerche is the bulgarian for Black
      
      Are you call all these cakes racist too
      https://www.google.com/search?q=negerche&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB893GB893&oq=negerche&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.1747j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        This defense is so stupid, you can call sterling crap without mentioning race, you can be upset at him missing chances without mentioning race. What did his race have to do with it?
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      2. Goonsquad245
        5 years, 4 months ago
        He discriminated against him because of the colour of his skin. Stop defending it.
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        marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I agree with both you and there is no need for what he said. can leave colour out of it and treat everyone the same.
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        @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        You agree with us yet you post some stupid nonsense about calling cakes racist?
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        marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I agree there is no need to bring colour into it however he did not say what you claim he said.
        
        He spoke in is local language and it might look similar to an english work but it is not the same.
        
        He even admits this so don't go around making false comments saying he said the "N" word
        
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        I admitted this is a mean comment worthy of disqualification. However, it is hard to explain to English speaking people why I never meant it to be a racist comment. The word "negyr" in Bulgarian does not have nearly the same connotation as the N word in English
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        @persecuted_by_mods
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I didn't claim anything? I think you are responding to the wrong person here
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        marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        sorry Q (i assume your name is Q..haha)...was just replying to the last message..hehe
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        marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        btw the cakes look nice ....hope you looked at them 🙂
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      3. Forza
        5 years, 4 months ago
        It's his message as a whole that makes it racist. The word "black" isn't inherently racist when used in different contexts (e.g. cakes), but surrounding the word with pejoratives when describing a black player makes the racism clear.
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        marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I found this on a website
        
        "Yes, in Bulgarian the word negar (негар)is the official or the common word to describe people with dark skin color, it is close to African in meaning. Actually the word black (черен) is caring the negative and more racist nuance in Bulgarian.You can overhear mothers lovingly calling their kids negarche (little black kid) to underline their healthy skin color after a nice holiday on the beach."
        
        I do understand racism is a hard stupid and sterling does get alot of it...and i do agree with you there is no need to bring colour into it. But i don't believe Alex said what he said as a rasist comment.
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        Forza
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I'll agree to disagree then. It may well be a more innocuous word in more affectionate contexts, but messages cease to be affectionate when the phrase "f****ing imbecile" is used (provided that @FPLRatchet's screenshot of the message is genuine).
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2. Hits from the Bong
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I hate racism, but I want to be allowed to play against, and beat, racists at FPL. Is this wrong? Surely all the gammon that voted for brexit are closet racists at best, are they not allowed to play? It’s almost half of the population.
  IMO it does much more good for racists to be called out and challenged, with their ignorant views debated, rather than sweeping it all under the rug with some brief mention of breaching terms.
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  1. Baps Hunter
    5 years, 4 months ago
    By the way, how are "negro spiritual songs" called without racism nowadays? (When I was a kid the N-word (kind of) in our language was similar to "black" withour being considered racist by anyone.) But yes, nowadays it is a "forbidden" one because of the world has changed and more people now know how the English N-word has been used.
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  2. thegame983
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Good point.
    
    But should you be banned for making sweeping derogatory comments about huge swaths of the population?
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    1. Hits from the Bong
      5 years, 4 months ago
      No, my views should be challenged if they are wrong, and all those brexit voters should be allowed to play and beat me at fpl too, bring it on
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  3. sully29
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Nobody is being stopped from playing FPL. Not even the guy who was just caught being racist. He's free to continue playing and you're free to beat him.
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kime67
5 years, 4 months ago
when will fixtures come out?
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1. CaptMidnight
  5 years, 4 months ago
  August 21
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marko_v_111
5 years, 4 months ago
There has been alot of talk around Defenders and Midfielders but very little love for forwards.

Is there any forwards your keeping your eye on

Aguero 11.5
Kane 11
Timo 10.5
Vardy 10
Martial 9.5
Jimenez 9.5
Firmino 9
Ings 8.5
And lots SUB 7M
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1. Je suis le chat
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Jesus at 9.5m, Kane at 10.5m, Aub at 11m.
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  1. marko_v_111
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Auba will be 12M Midfielder,
    Jesus finished the season at 9.9 ....he will be 10M next season.
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    1. Je suis le chat
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Aub as a mid would be sweet, though I can't see it. Wish they changed format as classical strikers are almost a thing of the past.
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    2. Zimo
      5 years, 4 months ago
      I'm guessing 11.5
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      1. marko_v_111
        5 years, 4 months ago
        If Auba stays as a forward would be 11.5 however if they move him to midfield will be 12
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    3. Lovren an elevator
      5 years, 4 months ago
      atleast! I think there is a real chance if Aguero is still injured when the game is released, that they could both be equal or near enough equal price...and probably should be
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2. Jordan.
  5 years, 4 months ago
  benteke
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  1. marko_v_111
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Benteke could be 5.5M
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    1. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
      5 years, 4 months ago
      That would be 5m too much
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3. papa89
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Ings for 8.5 would be a steal, IMO.
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  1. Camzy
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I think it's a perfect price. Ings having one great season doesn't detract from him having a history of injuries. If he matches last year it's a great deal, but all indications are that he won't get 20+ goals this season.
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    1. papa89
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Yeah, noted. I remeber the last season's case of C.Wilson. Struggling and no injuries, actually. But I believe in Ingsy. He looked strong even after the re-start with short breaks between games and even Ralph was under impression of his fitness. He's got a lot of bad luck with his knee injury in Liverpool. It depends on fixtures and some other factors, but for 8.5 he'd be almost nailed in my team.
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    2. Moderately content penguin
      5 years, 4 months ago
      But that injury history is very significantly two huge ones that lost him 2 seasons no? 2018/9 was tricky - had him lots then - but he was still getting back to playing regularly.
      
      20+ again seems a stretch but then again I didn't really expect Jim to repeat the same output from 2018/9 either.
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4. Camzy
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Forwards are just not looking great points per pound (PPP).
  
  I'm gonna start this season same as I did last season. 2 budget forwards max and a bench fodder at 4.5m.
  
  I have little interest in most forwards except maybe Kane or Martial/Rashford if they come in at under 10.0m.
  
  I just think FPL need to reconsider forward pricing to make them more competitive with defenders and mids. The attacking fullback has decimated the forward position. 7.0m can get your Robertson or Moise Kean. It''s clear of late that there's more value in other positions.
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  1. Eze Really?
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I tend to agree with you but I must point out:
    The extra point for a CS and a goal scored can be quite heavily impacted by the bonus point system. If Martial is put into the forward line. 31 extra points and clean sheets set off against as much as 15 points for bonus in the other direction. Ings 40 bonus compared to martial 14. There is a chance Martial 8.5 might be good due to a position change. On top of that he is getting better by the day. (Will he go to 9.5?
    The gap between 8.5 and 12.5 is massive and I will welcome some mids going to the forward line.
    We all know outside the captaincy position, points per million is a good way of getting maximum benefit. wig backs have taken the lustre away from forwards but having 3 big hitters (11.5 to 13) is not really viable; hence the Ings, Martial type players.
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    1. Moderately content penguin
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Had a look at Martial after Bruno came in. He'd have lost 18 points from cs and goals but - didn't work this out precisely - could only see another 6 or so from baps.
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      1. Eze Really?
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I tried to work it out. I got to a gain of 14 points by martial as a mid. Ings who got 40 bonus with 5 more goals and 7 less assists wins out on the bonus front by 7 bonus but only a guideline.
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5. Andy_Social
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I'd probably go along with all those prices.
  However, my policy is the same as Camzy. I'll try to resist Jimi and Ings and have my most expensive striker top out at 6.5, with a pair of benchable but playing strikers in the 5-5.5 region. I'm going big in defence and midfield.
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  1. marko_v_111
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I agree Andy,
    
    I think i might look at Barnes or Wood if they are 6-6.5 and maybe a 2nd striker for around that price.
    
    Could be interesting when some of those on the list start get double digit hauls.
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  2. LangerznMash
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Same as me although I'm willing to go upto around 8.0 on my primary striker (unless someone stands out as essential - like Werner on pens for 10.0)
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  3. Eze Really?
    5 years, 4 months ago
    I hear you Andy but I found my 5 mids were not enough last season. 3 guys up top that can get around the 180 to 200 point mark could still be viable if the players are priced right this time round.
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    1. Andy_Social
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Sure, but I'm going the other way. I'd say 3 'random' Liverpool defenders in that price bracket have more certainty of all reaching that point mark than 3 random strikers for the same money. It may be that 3 mid-price strikers emerge and finish on similar points, but I'd be far less sure of their identities at this time.
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      1. Eze Really?
        5 years, 4 months ago
        I hear you and tend to agree. We have to have at least 1 forward and it will probably end up 2 if pricing is similar. 4-5-1 will be common and 3-5-2 also. The only thing I know at this stage is I will have 5 mids to start, dependent on any major structural changes.
        The only thing I don't like about say 3 pool defenders is the possible clean sheet fail. value per mil always works out defensively and Forwards are always the weakest.
        A point to note is my keeper was the star last year in my team, points per million wise.
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6. Our Tiny Windows
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Werner 10.0
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Zimo
5 years, 4 months ago
Will we get Player Price sneak peeks today by chance?
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1. FPL Pillars
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Doesn’t look it
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The Rumour Mill
5 years, 4 months ago
I knew he was in trouble as soon as he used the patented Richard Keys defence of "it was just banter"!
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Moderately content penguin
5 years, 4 months ago
This is why I’m excited this season

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.squawka.com/en/athletic-bilbao-man-utd-europa-league-bielsa-ferguson-where-are-they-now/%3famp

That was done on the back of a selection policy based on Basque only
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Amey
5 years, 4 months ago
Please start RMT's again !!
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1. Moderately content penguin
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Try the Community articles - a little quiet over there but at least it's all football
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  1. Amey
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Cheers
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2. Camzy
  5 years, 4 months ago
  FanTeam?
  
  Fabianski Meslier
  TAA VvD Laporte Mari Vinagre
  Salah KdB Fernandes Soucek Foden
  Antonio Kean Zivkovic
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  1. Our Tiny Windows
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Why not Pickford?
    Is Mari going to play?
    Is Antonio going to be striker or winger?
    
    Rest is tight.
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    1. Camzy
      5 years, 4 months ago
      No Pickford because he's crap. Also FanTeam scores 0.5 point per save. That's really generous. A keeper making 5 saves gets 2.5 points vs FPL's 1 point. The fact that every save counts means that keepers are actually pretty valuable. That stuff adds up and I reckon Fabianski will get the most. Depends on fixtures though.
      
      Mari will play when fit imo. Just signed a new contract, Spanish, good passer. Seems to fit Arteta's philsophy. Shouldn't be hard to displace Mustafi, Holding or Luiz. The 4.0 fodders I'll move around as the picture clears up.
      
      Antonio at 6.5m I think is a snip. He has the highest xGI of any player post restart. When fit and firing, he's a beast. I also really like the price point. Can easily switch to Mitro, Bamford, McBurnie, Maupay or whoever becomes the bandwagon. Team value is really important in FanTeam because you don't have a sell on fee so teams can get to like 120m at the end.
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  2. Moderately content penguin
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Is Meslier 4.0 there?
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    1. Camzy
      5 years, 4 months ago
      Yes. 4.0m.
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      1. Moderately content penguin
        5 years, 4 months ago
        If only.... 🙂
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  3. Jaws
    5 years, 4 months ago
    who's Zivkovic?
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    1. Camzy
      5 years, 4 months ago
      4.0m fodder.
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  4. Amey
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Kean is the one i don't know about. Not sure he'll be nailed ...
    
    Like it overall !
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Je suis le chat
5 years, 4 months ago
With the disqualification of the bloke with the most points, the info re Liverpool team news takes on more importance. If Chris had captained his Vice captain instead of Salah, he'd have won.
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1. Greek Freak
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I still don't get why he captained Salah. Regardless of team news - you have Sterling at home vs. Norwich and there's no need to chase with a left-field pick, why not just go for the obvious one?
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  1. Camzy
    5 years, 4 months ago
    This. He overthought everything. He was in pole position. Just cap the most popular choice and make the others chase.
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  2. Je suis le chat
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Just shows the chips can be dangerous, best to use in a dgw imo.
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2. Nightcrawler
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Its a bogus victory anyway. Fpl shd just have had the title vacant
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3. Botman and Robben
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I thought Magnus Carlsen had a chance but things fell off for him unfortunately on the last GW.
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4. Flair
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Not only that but he could have just waited for team leaks... winning a massive competition like FPL is a real achievement and surely there would have been no issues if he'd taken one day, or even an hour off?
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Rotation's Alter Ego
5 years, 4 months ago
Another new Community Article 🙂

Rubberducky has done a piece on "The Theory of Everything FPL" which is well worth a read for anyone that's looking to step up how seriously they take FPL - it's not just as simple as picking who will score the highest! Plenty of lessons here that we've all had to learn one way or the other over the years.
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1. Rotation's Alter Ego
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Might help if I actually linked the article as well...
  
  https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2020/08/12/the-theory-of-everything-fpl/
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  1. Ginkapo FPL
    5 years, 4 months ago
    Its too hot
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    1. Az
      5 years, 4 months ago
      it is 🙁
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Dynamic
5 years, 4 months ago
In the 6th paragraph of this BBC article about Wolves needing to sign more players (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53746222), it states that "They only used 21 players in the Premier League this season, three fewer than anybody else".

In the graphic below this quote it then states that Burnley used 22 players in Premier League games 2019-20.

This has made me very confused. Am I being stupid?

Does this make sense to anyone else?

Thanks
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1. Forza
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Pope officially counts as 3 players.
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2. Piggs Boson
  5 years, 4 months ago
  I think you're right. It looks like an error on their part.
  
  Their point still stands though, maybe even to Burnley too. But as much as Wolves need a bigger squad, they're already in trouble with FFP so their entire wage structure needs addressing before they can start to recruit more!
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Az
5 years, 4 months ago
I'm supposed to be working but its TOO HOT
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1. Piggs Boson
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Whenever I get too hot and bothered I try to imagine I'm back in Kenya or Spain. It changes my outlook on the heat entirely!
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Siva Mohan
5 years, 4 months ago
Valencia 'put their ENTIRE SQUAD up for sale except Jose Gaya' as they feel the financial effects of missing out on European football and the Covid-19 pandemic.

sold Ferran Torres, Francis Coquelin and Dani Parejo so far 🙁
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1. Rotation's Alter Ego
  5 years, 4 months ago
  Absolutely falling apart, but Villarreal are doing fantastically from it!
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2. Ginkapo FPL
  5 years, 4 months ago
  How crap is Gaya?
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GreenWindmill
5 years, 4 months ago
New article posted (Return of the Mark 😎 )

https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2020/08/12/mark-sutherns-to-return-to-fantasy-football-scout-for-2020-21-season/
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