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How does Kai Havertz compare with Chelsea’s other FPL attacking assets?

Chelsea have continued their spending spree this summer with the acquisition of one of the most coveted young talents in Europe, Kai Havertz.

The attacking midfielder has signed a five-year deal with the Blues, following in the footsteps of Timo Werner (£9.5m) in moving to west London from the Bundesliga.

Arguably the club’s biggest statement since the signing of Eden Hazard from Lille, the German has been priced up at £8.5m – in a similar bracket to Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) – by Fantasy Premier League and has the potential to be a real bargain.

Anyone who dabbled in Fantasy Bundesliga this summer would have been excited by what they saw – including some ‘out of position’ run-outs up front – so we’ll assess his FPL credentials in the article below.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKey passes/game
2016/17241451451.30.8
2017/18302141381.21.1
2018/193429011732.61
2019/203024621262.22
Average29.52238.89.05.51.81.2

Born in Aachen, Germany in June 1999, Havertz started out in amateur football at just four years of age for Alemannia Mariadorf where his grandfather, Richard, was club chairman. His father was a policeman and mother a lawyer so discipline was something that was impressed upon him at a young age.

It was his grandfather who encouraged him in his younger days, spending time with the youngster knocking down gnomes in the garden with his left foot. Richard’s passing when Havertz was just 10 led the German to join his first professional club, Alemannia Aachen.

He only spent a year with his hometown club, with a hat-trick against Bayer Leverkusen in an 8-3 loss impressing them enough to make them sign the youngster. He was highly sought after by clubs across the country, including Borussia Monchengladbach and Koln, but Leverkusen pulled out all the stops to sign the exciting prospect.

He notched seven goals and two assists over 23 appearances in his first season in the U17-Bundesliga West but the next season was where he really shone.

After scoring 18 goals, he was awarded the silver Fritz Walter Medal in the 2015/16 season after being named the second-best German under-17s player; two years later he won the gold in the under-19s category.

In October 2016, at 17 years and 126 days of age, he became the youngest debutant in Bayer Leverkusen’s history and later became their youngest scorer with a strike against Wolfsburg in April. 

He went on to become the youngest ever player in the Bundesliga to register 50 appearances. Coincidentally, the previous holder of that record was his new Chelsea teammate, Timo Werner. Havertz was also the youngest ever captain of Leverkusen.

After seven goals and 13 assists in his first two seasons, 2018/19 saw him become a household name in Germany with 17 goals from midfield, becoming the first teenager to hit that total in a Bundesliga season.

Nine of Havertz’s 17 goals gave Leverkusen a 1-0 lead and no player in the Bundesliga opened the scoring more frequently that season. Manager Peter Bosz’s attacking philosophy gave him a platform to flourish and he featured in every single game that campaign.

He took three penalties that season, posting an xG of 13.1 and a non-penalty xG of 10.9; this would indicate that he is a good finisher.

“I guess reading the game has always been one of my strengths. A certain composure on the ball and the ability to make the right choices quickly.” – Kai Havertz

Havertz started off the 2019/20 season by becoming the second-youngest player in Bundesliga history to score 25 goals with a strike against Paderborn on the opening day. He went on to register 12 goals and six assists that campaign with an xG of 9.1. Only one of these was a penalty, which meant his non-penalty xG was 8.3. Again, he outperformed his xG significantly and even upped his xA to 6.2.

Over his last three seasons, his non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers have been on the rise every year and he averages an expected goal involvement every other game over that period.

“If you can always be one or two steps ahead of your opponent, you can already win the game, and I think that’s just the player he is.” – Leon Bailey, Havertz’s teammate.

Comparison v other Chelsea assets

2019/20Mins/shotMins/SoTMins/KPSoT%Goals/shotGoals/SoT
Abraham25.263.5105.839.80.170.43
Mount25.652.6124.937.20.090.24
Giroud36.89956.348.70.210.42
Pulisic27.46957.540.30.150.36
Werner22.843.95344.90.180.38
Ziyech18.252.220.834.80.070.21
Havertz42.4584143.10.190.44

Unlike Ziyech, Havertz is not a volume shooter who takes a lot of speculative shots from outside the box: his minutes/shot is the lowest in the comparison.

However, a large percentage of the youngster’s efforts are on target (43%), compared to the Moroccan (34.8%). In fact, his goals per shot (0.19) is almost triple that of Ziyech’s (0.07).

What’s even more impressive is that Havertz scores with nearly half of his shots on target (44%) whereas Ziyech is closer to 20%. He even bests Werner, who has goals/shot of 0.18 and goals/shot on target of 0.38.

In terms of creativity, only Ziyech (20.8) created chances more frequently than Havertz (41) last season.

The Prospects

Havertz spent most of the 2019/20 season deployed as a no. 10, also featuring on the right flank and at centre-forward at times. Given that Ziyech’s preferred position is on the right wing and Pulisic has been effective on the left, Lampard is expected to use the German behind his compatriot Werner.

Werner is a very different striker compared to Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) and Tammy Abraham (£7.5m). As we saw briefly in the Brighton friendly, he works a lot more off the ball, similar to Roberto Firmino (£9.5m).

Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.0m), who was playing as a no. 10, found himself in the box very often as a result of the German’s link-up play and the 4-3-3 that Lampard prefers shaped up into a 4-2-2-2 in transition. Given Havertz’ goal-scoring instincts, the prospects are mouth-watering, to say the least.

Chelsea were second only to Manchester City for expected goals last season, so creating chances was not a problem and by adding an ice-cold finisher like Havertz to their ranks, the Blues’ goal output should go up significantly this season.

With Havertz having had zero minutes with Chelsea in pre-season due to international involvement with Germany, it is perhaps unlikely that Lampard throws him into the fray straight away against Brighton, with a cameo appearance most likely. His minutes should improve as the weeks go on and he settles in, however.

In terms of injury, he has a good overall fitness record with only the muscle tear he suffered in November 2019 causing him to miss more than 15 days out with injury. He has been unavailable for just six games over the past three seasons due to injury or illness.


Statistics taken from Opta, fbref.com and Whoscored.com

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  1. Aaa
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this one?

    McCarthy/Steer
    TAA/Doherty/Egan//Taylor/Mitchell
    Auba/Salah/Barnes/4.5/4.5
    Werner/Antonio/Adams

    Leaves 2.5m in the bank to change Antonio to Martial gw2

    1. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Problem is Adams to me. You will need him to be playing every game, which is a doubt, as you don't have cover in midfield

      Good otherwise

    2. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      What about doherty to Davies and 4.5 to Saka?

  2. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    RMT please. May need an alternative to Mitro

    Mccarthy (Button)
    Trent - Egan - Doherty (Vinagre + Mitchell)
    Auba - Bowen - Mané - Saka (Bissouma)
    Ings - Werner - Mitro

    1. n-doggg
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Bowen? This West Ham fixtures are a horror show for a 6.5 mid? What’s the story? Downgrade more to 4.5 and upgrade Bowen

      1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Moved Bissouma for Reed & Saka for ASM. Where do you reckon I can make room for a Bowen upgrade?

      2. Not again Shirley
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Actually I like Bowen and 6.5 is good price point imo so go with it mo

  3. Chandler Bing
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    People with Doherty, are you confident he plays GW1?

    1. ivantys
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, mourinho said he's "scared of facing doherty"

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        But that doesn't mean he starts GW1. He's yet to play for the team.

        1. ivantys
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          He played for his country, that's enough warm ups. If he doesn't start in game 1, he could potentially end those 26% owners' seasons lol.

      2. Brosstan
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Now he doesnt have to face Doherty 😉

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Probably send him out on loan abroad. Chelsea Jose back in action

    2. SAUCY SALAH
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I bloody hope so, just finally convinced myself to take the upside risk and get him

    3. Flair
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Very

    4. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Fairly, but I’d be more worried if I didn’t have Mitchell looking like a decent back-up on the cheap

  4. Sergeant Slaughter
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Well, I've gone and done it. Dropped TAA and Kane.
    TAA will come back in after I use my WC. Don't see a price rise in his future. Absolutely love the look of the new team. Give it a try! It's like removing the shackles and is great fun.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Enjoy, I like TAA in my team.

      1. Sergeant Slaughter
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ha, of course. He will be back. But for now, I'm settled.

    2. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      The problem is , which premium defender you going with ? How is your defense looks?

      1. Sergeant Slaughter
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Dougherty Tierney James KWP Egan

        1. Sergeant Slaughter
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          James is my risk. Happy to take it.

          1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            James is a risk. Doherty is a risk. That’s the problem that I can’t see other good options with United and city blanks.

            1. Sergeant Slaughter
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Doherty is fine, I believe. Hope so!
              But this set up gives me Salah, Auba, Alli, Werner and Ings.
              Happy with that.
              Still plenty of starting coverage in the back.

  5. Nightcrawler
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ughh im Not feeling the Mitro Love AT ALL

    1. Moore FPL
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer Adams but Mitro more nailed

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Fulham talisman, PL proven, Leeds and Villa in the first three, 6.0. He's been in my team for weeks.

    3. ivantys
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Go with ayew

  6. FOO FIGHTER
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Fraser to NEW done.

    1. HollywoodXI
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I like Fraser. Hope he can get his career back on track.

    2. Nightcrawler
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Fpl gold from 2 seasons ago

    3. Sergeant Slaughter
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      The wee man can fun to watch. He can also be a great fantasy asset. But, wasteful chances at NEW may be the the norm.

    4. Amey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      ASM dead as an option then ?

      1. Sergeant Slaughter
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe more valuable? More creative play, more pace shouldn't hurt his chances?

        1. Amey
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          What position does ASM play ??
          Fraser is LW.

          1. ZTF
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            ASM is their best player

            1. Amey
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              🙁
              I know that.
              What position.

              I can't get it from heat maps. All over the place

          2. Sergeant Slaughter
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            It's Newcastle, they'll find a spot for both.

            1. Amey
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Thanks.
              I have that spot in my team.

          3. ivantys
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            LW as well, occasionally CF. Looks like he will share game time with fraser then

            1. Amey
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              Exactly what I fear

              1. JIMMY TUGGINS
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 1 month ago

                Don't worry about that, they'll both start, Newcastle are rubbish, they're not gonna pick and choose with their best players.

                1. ivantys
                  • 4 Years
                  4 years, 1 month ago

                  Yeah rubbish strikers who only scored 6 goals in total.

                  1. JIMMY TUGGINS
                    • 5 Years
                    4 years, 1 month ago

                    Wilson doesn't have much of a bar to clear.

                    1. Amey
                      • 6 Years
                      4 years, 1 month ago

                      You better stay away from him buddy 😆

                      1. JIMMY TUGGINS
                        • 5 Years
                        4 years, 1 month ago

                        I make no promises.

                    2. ivantys
                      • 4 Years
                      4 years, 1 month ago

                      Shelvey plays part time there and is their too scorer

                2. Amey
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 1 month ago

                  Thanks mate. He is looking a good option if nailed now IMO.
                  Wilson is PL pedigree.

                  Literally 4 spots in my team are not finished now. Going to be important to get information. Ha Ha

              2. ivantys
                • 4 Years
                4 years, 1 month ago

                He could be upgraded to a CF or share game time with him, that's a decent risk to take i feel. Newcastle's strikers are trash so I feel he's still worth it.

                1. ZTF
                  • 10 Years
                  4 years, 1 month ago

                  They’re signing Callum Wilson

                  1. Amey
                    • 6 Years
                    4 years, 1 month ago

                    Yup

                  2. ivantys
                    • 4 Years
                    4 years, 1 month ago

                    Maybe a support striker slot then but I won't count on it. Might need to switch him out lol

  7. ivantys
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Are those picking ASM benching him in weeks 3,5 and 6?

    1. DIMITRIS
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No, he's crafty, and possibly their best counter-attacking asset.

  8. @fpl_phenom
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone going with Johnstone and Button ?

  9. DIMITRIS
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone starting with Mane over Salah?

    1. el polako
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I do.

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Me too

    2. Moore FPL
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Considering but prob still go with Mo

    3. Ser Davos
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, look at it plainly with regards to who looks sharper.

      Mo's history, the stance round here and overall ownership are factors, but they shouldn't be deciding your team.

      Ultimately, I think we're going to have to be quite dynamic with our heavy hitters so it's not the end of the world of you pick the worng one... there'll be scope to get it right down the line

  10. goriuanx
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Baffled by the love for Harvey Barnes, I must be missing something.

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      dont understand it at all

      1. goriuanx
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Horrendous footballer.

        1. Flaming Flamingo
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Don't think he's a bad player, but his shooting is awful

        2. ZTF
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Very harsh.. fpl wise he’s too expensive but only 22 and was great at times last season

    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      haha i just put him in. He is inconsistent but if you get him on his day he can explode. He is easier to drop too if he doesnt perform. I like him as a player , he is just frustrating

      1. goriuanx
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Harry Wilson scored more goals than him ffs!

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I am not keen on any LEI at this point tbf.

    4. L S P
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I enjoyed the 19pts I got from him in that one GW last season.

      1. Flair
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Will always be a legend to me for that

      2. JIMMY TUGGINS
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        The week I wc'd him out 🙂

    5. SAUCY SALAH
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Poor man’s Maddison (yes same price lol)

      1. Nightcrawler
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Hes definitely a better fpl pick than maddison. Id only have barnes if he was nailed for a long run like at some point kadt season he was. When they both start barnes easily better

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Just checked. Same amount of goals but twice as many assists despite playibg 600 mins less

    6. Nightcrawler
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Had him for his 19 point haul so will always have a soft spot

      I think he usually does well in terms of goals and assists if given a consistent run in the team

    7. ivantys
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Take him in when maddison's fit or perez plays. I realized leicester seem to do well when all 3 with tielemens are playing

    8. Ser Davos
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      People just picking him for the sake of a slot and Leicester's fixtures

    9. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I like him. Nailed with Madison out. Has a goal in him, good fixtures opening two games (incl against old team) and can be changed to Greenwood or Foden from GW3

      1. nolard
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        This is why I have him.
        Cannot afford an 8.0, so I have Barnes, who can become Greenwood.

      2. KujaliaFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        I notice that Perez has only played 19 minutes in pre-season too.

        That seals it for me. I'm going for Harvey.

    10. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Steady on... I haven’t seen a lot of love for him, more a few considering a punt - but this is probably the first actual hate I’ve seen 🙂

      He popped up with 16 attacking returns in 2000 minutes - all those mid-price midfield characters around him in the scoring charts (Mount, Willian, Grealish etc) had between 500-1200 extra minutes

      He’s not a million miles off Pulisic in points per minute (Puli 127 from 1,717... Barnes 133 from 2,075)

      He was 30 points behind Son but played 400 minutes fewer...

      He’s not a 12.0 - but he’s a big hitting 7.0 with decent fixtures - definitely worth a punt

      1. ivantys
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        A lot of inflated points during that 9-0 thrashing though, I personally feel perez is more dangerous

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          All Barnes got in the 9-0 was a single assist though

          1. ivantys
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Oops my bad, I confused him with perez

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            It was Ayoze who got the hattrick in the Southampton game - that helped his total out a lot

      2. KujaliaFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Maximus.

        If he scores for me in the first GW, you will be one of the people I have to thank. You've convinced me that he's even better than I thought.

    11. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yep 🙂

  11. Moore FPL
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA Vinaigre Mitchell (Lascelles, Webester)
    Salah Auba Son Soucek (Gordon)
    Werner Ings Mitro

  12. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ryan Fraser has agreed a deal to join Newcastle and is set to undergo a medical on Monday.

    1. Steal Your Faes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Callum Wilson coming on board too. Newcastle might have something resembling an attack.

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        something resembling a Bournemouth attack.....

    2. THAT'S LIFE
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Great I can make the same starting balls up as last season

  13. n-doggg
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    A. AWB and stephens (442)
    B. ASM and Taylor (352)

    1. Moore FPL
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. kevchenko
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Easy B

  14. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Evening.....any views on best bet here please?

    Mccarthy 4m
    Taa dier vinagre taylor xxx
    Salah auba xxx soucek bissouma
    Werner ings adams

    A...... greenwood and lascelles (greenwood benched for soucek gw1)

    B......alli and mitchell

    I have 0.5mitb for ings to martial gw2. Saving wildcard for as long as poss

    Thanks

    1. Moore FPL
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      B. I don't like value on the bench even for 1 GW.

  15. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Please help me choose!

    A) Mitro + Saka
    2) Nketiah + ASM

    1. Moore FPL
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      C) Mitro & ASM

      1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        My dumb ass ain't even think of that! Thanks man!

        1. Moore FPL
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Haha nice :-). No probs!

  16. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Newcastle might be worth investing in attack again.

    1. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Let's see Wilson's price, 6.5m is fair.

      1. ivantys
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        What was his price last season? Should be around the same. How i wish FPL updates their prices more often.

    2. Flair
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Those fixtures are very unappealing

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        1,2 and 4 look decent.

        1. Flair
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Depends on the planned WC date then, mine is GW10 so I'd prefer to get him them that week and not before

    3. el polako
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Waiting for Callum Wilson, they had some decent attacking stats during "project restart".

    4. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Pricing will be key. Hopefully 6.5 for both Fraser & Wilson. ASM could be a bargain if he gels with those two.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Expect 7m for both

        1. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          This, maybe even 7.5 for Wilson..

      2. Amey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Will ASM Start ?
        Don't know much myself

        1. Karan14
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Would expect ASM & Fraser to take on the wings.

          1. Amey
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Brilliant. 5.5m Midfield spot should be sorted then 🙂

  17. Booked4Dissent
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Bye bye Vinagre after signing Lyon defender??

    1. Steal Your Faes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Left-sided player with more appearances at CB, 2m Euro transfer fee, 31 years old does not sound like the profile of someone who is going straight into the starting 11. Sounds like cover to me.

      At the very least I'd expect to see him be eased in. I'm keeping the faith!

  18. bobbysmith76
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Think I've unlocked it.

    McCarthy (Nyland)
    VVD Egan Doherty KWP (Mitchell)
    Auba Salah Alli St-Maximin (Bissouma)
    Richarlison Ings (Brewster)

    Any thoughts?

    1. bobbysmith76
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Alli -> Bruno in GW 2 (have 2.5 ITB)

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Think Alli smashes Son in GW1?

        1. bobbysmith76
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Real toss up for me. With Son on pens, may need to switch, but gut says Alli

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            You get a free punt if GW2 transfer is locked.

  19. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool fans - thinking Minamino will start against Leeds?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      no

    2. goriuanx
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, kind of forced to

      If Klopp's comments are to be believed, it's too early for Henderson.

      Wijnaldum linked with a move away and is currently with Dutch team anyway.

      So I expect 4231 with Keita-Fabinho behind usual 3 + Minamino

      1. Pukki Party
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Milner?

        1. goriuanx
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Been awful for ages so hope not but wouldn't be surprised

    3. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      No

  20. Atimis
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Worth having Ings for 8.5 or Adams/Armstrong could be good alternatives from Southampton?

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      The latter could be good alternatives for sure - but neither are nailed so carry risk

    2. el polako
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Depemds if you want Ing's points or points which will score Adams or Armstrong.

  21. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Werner stinking up the joint. I'm telling you, he feels like a trap, who from that Chelsea midfield is going to pick out the 1 type of run he makes? They don't have a Cesc Fabregas anymore.

    1. The Mighty Hippo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Havertz who plays with him in the national team maybe?

      1. el polako
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        or Zyiech.

      2. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Havertz isn't actually a creator.

    2. Flair
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Poor guy has Pulisic, Havertz and Ziyech creating for him, will struggle to match Joelinton's tally this season

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ziyech the only one who is a natural creator.

      2. ivantys
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        He'll probably score as many as caroll

    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Blank GW1 will mean a switch to Martial and a price drop

  22. KujaliaFC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ayoze Perez or Harvey Barnes for the first two gameweeks?

    1. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      None. They're both useless in FPL.

    2. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Barnes imo

    3. ivantys
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      First 2 game weeks leicester will struggle to score, it's best to wait till 4+5

      1. KujaliaFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        You think that Leicester will struggle to score against West Bromwich Albion?

        1. ivantys
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I do think so, west brom defended really deep during that pre season game, and leicester are without maddison. I still picked vardy though, simply because his price is more stable and I can't afford to lose money on werner when ppl transfer him out during week 2. If perez+barnes both start, then leicester could score more.

          1. KujaliaFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 1 month ago

            Given that Maddison is injured, I'm sure that Perez will play.

            1. ivantys
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 1 month ago

              They can all start even if maddison not injured. Their best team is when their 4 mids (tilemens, Barnes, perez, maddison) all play

  23. WE ARE RANGERS
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    come on guys
    Here is a challenge
    Post a squad for GW1 if you were going to use your bench boost
    15 nailed on players

    1. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      If you just want us to build you a team you should really ask

      1. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Was not what I did?

      2. WE ARE RANGERS
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Anyway, great input (not) instead of actually giving something

        1. asquishypotato
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          I mean, this website comments section is a bit give and receive, you don’t tend to get much from not interacting in reverse, so a singular ‘build me a team boys comment’ without anything offered doesn’t really entice.

          Since free thought is something you cba to do, your 15 is probably 3 Arsenal, 3 Chelsea, West Ham/Newcastle for the cheap ones, maybe some spuds if you think they’ll beat a dodgy Everton, sprinkled with some Liverpool. Make of that what you will.

    2. Capitan_K
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      3 arsenal 3 liverpool 3 saints 3 west ham 2 Lie and Werner

  24. ZTF
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Ramsdale (Nyland)
    Justin TAA Vinagre (Ferguson, Johnson)
    ASM Salah Auba Son (Burke)
    Bamford Werner Ings

    Any changes?

    1. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Bamford, Ramsdale,Justin, Ferguson & Johnson are all rotation risks at best

      1. ZTF
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Ramsdale isn’t. Johnson is a 5th defender who I’ll very rarely use, Ferguson will get in the side when back which should align with the start of Palace’s good fixtures. Bamford is a cheap punt as Bielsa loves him and they create a shed load of chances. & I’ll sell Justin around gw6 when Pereira returns.

    2. Flaming Flamingo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      I'd downgrade Bamford and upgrade one (or both) of the 4.0s personally

  25. Brosstan
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Newcastle rumored to be in talks with Joshua King and David Brooks

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Did you create the rumour?

      1. Brosstan
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        My source prefers to remains anonymous

        1. MYNAMEISBigtopmark.sman
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Of course he does 😉

    2. MoSalalalalalalalalah
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      They may as well just merge clubs with Bournemouth.

      1. el polako
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Same as LFC and Southampton ?

      2. Brosstan
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        This explains why the Newcastle fans havent heard anything from Bruce for the last weeks. Hes been replaced by Eddie Howe behind the scenes

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Would prefer Howe

        2. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 1 month ago

          Bruce gave a pretty extensive interview yesterday.

    3. Bragazeti
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Talk about a one stop shop

    4. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Hmm linked to both of them about a month ago, along with numerous other players, as the local press try to sell papers.

  26. Pukki Party
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know if Riedewald (4.5) is likely to start the season in Palace midfield? Has been getting minutes in preseason.

    1. ivantys
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      doubt so, their captain is back and mccarthy should start as well.

  27. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Jamal Lewis a good signing for the Toon? Wilson and Fraser should be decent

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      A decent transfer window if we get them three. Yeah, not quite becoming the richest club in the world, but at least it should mean we're better than last season.

    2. Amey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      A good transfer window.

  28. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Been laying low pre-season, but here’s my first go....

    Ryan
    Trent Vinagre Johnson(4) KWP
    Auba(c) Salah(vc) ASM Son
    Ings Mitrovic

    Walton Bissouma Martial Taylor

    Too template?

    1. Pukki Party
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Good team. Plan for Manchester teams?

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Martial on my bench
        Salah to Bruno in 2
        Auba to Sterling 3 or 4

  29. SAUCY SALAH
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Best 2x 4.5 defenders to start the season with?

    Preferably nailed and start GW1, own McCarthy and don’t fancy double up with KWP.

    Thanks

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      White and Lascelles maybe, given your criteria. I'm assuming you wouldn't want a Leeds defender, since you want to start them in GW1

      1. SAUCY SALAH
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 1 month ago

        Correct

  30. @fpl_phenom
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 1 month ago

    Vinagre a no go now with this new signing or will he still be first choice?

    1. SAUCY SALAH
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 1 month ago

      Don’t think anybody knows