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Why I reject the ‘stats vs eye test’ debate when making FPL decisions

Three-time top 5k finisher Seb Wassell reveals his thoughts as Fantasy Premier League managers prepare for a busy run-in to the 2020/21 season.


‘Us vs. Them’, ‘Yorkshire vs. Lancashire’, ‘Stats vs The Eye Test’. Timeless, tribal debates that see passionate supporters and detractors on both sides. But one of these is not like the others. 

Here I will make the case for ‘Stats vs. The Eye Test’ being a false dichotomy and why, at this time of Double Gameweeks, Wildcards and crunch decision-making, anyone that finds themselves exclusively on one side or the other – or even believes there are sides to this debate in the first place – is never going to achieve the Fantasy Premier League success we all crave.

Eye of the Beholder

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We are instinctively inclined to believe our own eyes over almost all other information. This is a primal bias that is extremely difficult to identify let alone overcome. Seeing is believing after all.

When it comes to football, many believe there is no substitute for watching matches. Football is meant to be experienced, it is meant to be enjoyed, those rare moments of complete brilliance, total anguish and overwhelming joy are what it is all about. If you do not watch football, you do not get football, and this goes doubly for the Fantasy game, right? Stats fly in the face of that. They often reduce our favourite moments to “luck” and describe impossible feats as “variance”. How can you “expect” a goal? Can you quantify “desire”? Frankly, they are all work and no play.

However, there is often a large disparity between what we see and what is empirically true. For a non-football example, take “the dress”. For those unaware, a photograph of a dress was posted on social media in 2015 that for millions appeared quite clearly to be white and gold. However, an equally large and convinced group of people were adamant it was black and blue. I will avoid spoiling it here if you have not already experienced it, but needless-to-say it was confirmed to be only one of these colour combinations, with the other theorised to be a result of presentation, our own personal perceptions, previous experiences with lighting and existing expectations.

In this same way, what we see on a football pitch can be misleading, incomplete and sometimes even harm our ability to make the best decisions. And yet, some of the best fantasy managers proudly consume huge amounts of football each week.

Numbers Don’t Lie

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By contrast, a growing number of the football community, and more specifically the Fantasy Premier League community, are becoming literate in stats. Contrary to the belief of some, the world of football statistics was not dreamt up by anti-football, calculus-wielding mathematicians. Quite the opposite in fact. 

I like to imagine that Expected Goals (xG) was the result of a late night, post-match argument over whether a striker “should have scored”, as is so often the commentary rhetoric. Two people that see the same event can differ on its interpretation. Stats allow us to lend objectivity to this argument. 

In the case of xG, we can reference any single shot against a huge backlog of similar shots and conclude with a good degree of reliability how often that particular opportunity results in a goal. So “should have scored” becomes “50% of the time, that is a goal”. This does not mean that a 50% chance that was missed in the last match will be scored in the next, the probabilities are independent to one another, but it does start to give us a useful quantitative tool to describe how likely a unique event is to result in a certain outcome. 

Rather than being separate or contradictory to the eye test, stats are there to help us process what we are seeing and, crucially, allow us to begin to predict future events. FPL is a game of predictions and the more tools we have at our disposal to do this accurately, the better we will be for it.

However, stats can also mislead us. Knowing that a team had 33% possession and three shots in a match sounds disastrous, but if we also know that this team scored two very early goals against stronger opposition and then determined to sit deep, soak up pressure and attempt to see the match out – meaning their possession and shot numbers were intentionally culled – we begin to understand the context of those numbers. 

Often, we see a player praised for a huge number of completed passes, but if none of those passes progressed the ball up the pitch, is that as impressive? Just as with the eye test, we need to know what to pay attention to and what to disregard, how to view stats within their context and how to act on them without bias.

An Evidence Based Approach

The truth is that both stats and the eye test are attempting to describe the same thing: a football match. This is the scientific method, where we observe, analyse and then draw evidence-based conclusions. Whilst they may appear in competition with one another, there are no statisticians worth their spreadsheets nor football fans worth their season tickets that do not understand one through the prism of the other. 

No successful football club will sign a player without having watched them play, but the way they identify which players to watch are by trawling the stats of thousands first. 

Stats are to football what air travel is to transportation: wanting to get from A to B but better than before. They are a natural evolution of watching and analysing football, born from the desire to quantify what is happening on a football pitch in a more comprehensive, objective, memorable and comparable fashion. Stats do not compete with the eye test, they are simply the eye test presented as objective, reliable data. 

It is extremely difficult to remember every action a single player took during a 90-minute match, let alone what the other 21 did. Expand this then to a full season and the eye test alone cannot possibly hope to give you what you need. A shot on target is a shot on target whether I watch it happen and assign it to memory or read about it later in the Premium Members’ Area. The difference is that there is only so much I can do with that memory, and memories get distorted (see the Mandela Effect, where a large group of people independently remember an event to have occurred differently to how it actually occurred, or even remember something that never happened in the first place). Stats allow us to preserve this information and use it without distortion later.

This is not to say that stats are perfect, they are a work in progress. Some of them are still frustratingly reliant on human input, such as ‘big chances’, which is manually judged by a human at Opta rather than being the result of a chance exceeding a specific xG value. 

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If we know this though, we can use it to our advantage. We can combine stats and the watching of matches to give us the fullest picture possible, correct to the weight we personally place in one action over another.

The majority of stats focus on defined, finite actions, whereas a favourite of Fantasy managers is thinking “what if”. For example, xG only records shots taken. A player through on goal that does not pull the trigger before the ball is smothered by the goalkeeper is not recorded as a shot and so has no xG. However, we know that this was in fact a very good opportunity to score. Combine both these pieces of information and you have an edge.

Ultimately, it is evidence that we are looking for. Evidence free of bias most importantly. The eye test is wide open to biases – confirmation bias, recency bias, the availability heuristic, being reliant on Match of the Day showing you everything you need to know in 10 minutes as opposed to selecting your own samples – but then so are stats, we have all scrolled through tables looking for that magic number that backs up the transfer we wanted to make anyway. The key is knowing how and when to use each tool we have at our disposal. The best fantasy managers can identify essential information and act upon it, but they will always use multiple methods for this.

Consider a scenario borrowed from Neil deGrasse Tyson: You are walking your dog, it zig-zags side-to-side on the lead, but overall moves forwards in the direction you are walking it. While the zigs and zags are hard to predict, the general direction of movement is not. “Lucky” managers may catch some of the zigs and zags, “skilful” managers know it is the overall picture we need. 

Both methods of analysis can fall prey to this, we may put too much emphasis on the events we see live or prioritise only recent data. It is sensible interpretation with given context that allows us to operate with skill rather than luck. 

Bear in mind also that information is only as good as the source it is from. Naturally, we want to identify trends as soon as possible, but realistically this is only reliable over the course of months, if not years, of matches. This is where some of those intangibles mentioned earlier may creep into our thinking, trying to explain what is in fact simply variance.

My favourite recent example of the two methods not being two separate methods at all but in fact dovetailing beautifully is Tottenham. Spurs’ early season results were excellent, both from a fantasy and real-life perspective, yet they now languish in ninth place. Could we have predicted this? Can we identify what might happen in the future?

We know that, for example, Son Heung-min (£9.5m) is a traditionally excellent finisher and thrives on the counter. We can see this when watching him and it is backed up by the stats. We also know that he receives a disproportionately high number of big chances, something else that is evidenced by both our eyes and the numbers. 

Naturally, big chances have a higher conversion rate than small chances. Early in the season, Spurs were performing well above their xG and Son was benefitting handsomely. There were a number of factors involved in this, from luck to style of play. 

Under Jose Mourinho, Tottenham had a tendency to attack early in a match, looking to secure a lead and then defend it from there. Due to this and the opposition they were facing, a number of these chances came on breaks into space. With Son drifting centrally from the left and Harry Kane (£11.1m) dropping off to supply him, we saw the forward presented with plenty of opportunities to convert the types of chances that suit him perfectly. As the season has progressed however, this has diminished, both through the absence of opportunity and a regression to their mean xG. They could not continue to score with their first (and sometimes only) few shots of a match against opposition that knew this was coming, we know this both instinctively and through historical data, nor did they adapt in a way that attempted to combat that. It is in this way that we could both understand what was happening with Spurs and predict how likely it was to continue. Similarly, with many now turning to Harry Kane again ahead of gameweek 26, we see both stats tables and tactical shifts being referenced as strong evidence for selecting him. I will leave that debate to our other Pro Pundits though!

Whether you prefer to consume your football in the stands or on a spreadsheet, we are all trying to do the same thing; understand what is happening, analyse why it is happening and predict what might happen in the future. For anyone that believes there is only one way to do this, I urge you to reconsider. What you are really doing is shutting yourself off from half of the information you need in order to make successful Fantasy Premier League decisions. And if you believe the eye test is the best way to judge football, I humbly suggest that you are effectively trying to get from A to B on horseback whilst everyone else has a plane ticket. Eventually, every event on a football pitch may be fully covered by stats. For now, however, we need both. Follow those stats to confirm what your eyes are seeing but keep watching matches to ensure you have context and, most importantly of all, to keep football and Fantasy Premier League fun.

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426 Comments Post a Comment
  1. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    1-0 to Palace needed here

    Would ask for more but ....

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Fulham CS is needed.
      We can agree on 0-0 😉

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Nope - not this time.

        Need Aina and Nipple to blank I’m afraid.

        Palace also need these points. Could be the last ones they get for weeks. Far from safe yet

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Those are exactly they players from which I want points 😀

          1. Boberella
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            No. Need Fulham CS so Tete can save my BB!

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Good. Tbh you should be happy he started 😆
              Must be playing LB
              Rotation frenzy there from Fulham

              1. Boberella
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Totally. V relieved.
                Fairly happy I brought in Ricardo Pereira too!

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  I'm jealous !
                  He'll haul probably.

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Relegation fight is about to get spicy. Mark my word. Ha

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            If WBA beat Newcastle and Palace it could be epic

            Part of me suspects WBA will pull through. Palace down next time not this I imagine

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              WBA are gone with SHU.
              Palace next season when 13 players are out of contract. Silly strategy. IDK what the owners are thinking.
              Or flurry of academy players will grace PL
              Anyways it'll help you guys reducing avg age of the squad

              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                WBA are not gone. Re-assess that after GW28, it may look very different then.

                And Brighton & Newcastle are very much in the mire. Wilson's loss has screwed Newcastle at the worst time but Brighton don't have a striker better than Joelinton even when everyone is fit. 🙄

                Hodgson will keep Palace safe the way he always does; by taking enough points from the games with their near rivals. A point today would more or less do it for them.

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Something tells me Brighton will be safe easily. Newcastle are fecked now. Yesterday I read ASM & Almiron got injured. If these big guns stay out for long I fear for them.
                  Fulham looks like a PL team to me. And I want them to stay up because they are not complete bus parking team. Like their overall build up play.
                  Agree about Palace yes. It's next season when they'll be under pump IMO

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    3 years, 2 months ago

                    Agree about Fulham but that's not their team, right? Areola, Aina, Andersen, Lemina, RLC, Lookman, Maja all on loan. They will probably be a worse team next season.

                    1. Amey
                      • 5 Years
                      3 years, 2 months ago

                      They'll invest once they get TV money. It's 100m ish I guess.
                      Enough to get 3/4 good players. Also RLC etc big team players would always be available (Chelsea has 100 of them 😆 )
                      That's core of the team on loan though good point.

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Uncle Roy to retire on a last day relegation save?

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                You mean Grandpa Roy right ?

                1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Sadly I'm probably a bit too old to get away with that

                  1. Amey
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 2 months ago

                    Ha
                    Fair enough

                2. pingissimus
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  There was a bit in the paper that he was older than the last 22 Palace managers

                  You need to go back to the 80s or so iirc to find a manager that was born before him

                  1. Amey
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 2 months ago

                    Wow

                    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 2 months ago

                      "Hodgson is undeniably old: he was born before 22 of his predecessors as Palace manager. He is slightly older than his former schoolmate Steve Kember, who first became manager at Selhurst Park in 1981."

                      https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2021/feb/27/roy-hodgson-crystal-palace-english-football

                      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                        • 6 Years
                        3 years, 2 months ago

                        Whops this was suppoesed to be for Amey. I know you've read it.

                      2. Amey
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 2 months ago

                        Cheers

              2. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                I always had us going down under Pardew just in time for the new stand to be ready for the Championship.

                The Pardew bit could still happen almost when England flop. Parish is a sucker for an old boy and ex England manager

                1. Crunchie
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  May I be the first to congratulate Gareth Southgate to our new club in 2022 🙂

                  1. Crunchie
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 2 months ago

                    BTW my Dad went to John Ruskin school in Croydon at the same time as Roy . Roy is two or three years younger

                    1. NotNowKato
                      • 11 Years
                      3 years, 2 months ago

                      So did mine! Small world

                      1. Crunchie
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 2 months ago

                        Ahh cool

  2. bazbestos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    How will that Leicester team line up today? 2 up top?

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Expect Keichi to play more of a number 10 role.

  3. dogtanion
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bench boosted Mitchell

    1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Likewise

      1. dogtanion
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Maybe he'll play v United and get minus points..just have to laugh!

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Unlucky

      At least he’ll get the United fixture 🙂

      1. dogtanion
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah...can't wait for that haha !

    3. El-Kloppico
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He'll bank his CS against ManUtd, no worry

    4. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He is injured unfortunately. He would have started for sure. We have a U23 young kid on the bench

    5. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Could be worse, could have had a bench full of Leeds

    6. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He could still outscore Dallas, Bamford or Raphinha. A lot BBed them. Still could turn out okay.

    7. bialk
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I've BB Mitchel plus Leeds boys.

  4. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I got Digne instead of Ricardo. Hope the latter does not hurt me too much.

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Could kids have’em both 😎

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I was never the cool kid. 🙁

      2. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        What about you ?
        😀

      3. Rolls-Royce
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, kids could have them both.

    2. HippY
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wish I could have invested more on my defenders when I used my WC. Already starting to regret the fact it's paper thin.

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        You have Dias and Stones?

        1. HippY
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Just Stones, and if anything he's my 'premium'' option. Dier, Struijk, Mitchell, Elmo the others.... It's very budget lol :/

  5. tbos83
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Do we think Foden starts v Wolves?

    1. Party time
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yes

        Ederson
        Cancelo Stones Dias Laporte
        Bilva Rodri Kdb
        Foden Jesus Sterling

        Source: trustmebro

        1. El-Kloppico
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Dont trust the source.. mayB Pep himself doesnt have a line up yet.

          1. Party time
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Lol

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Looks like Luke Thomas keeps his spot with pirera playing further forward

        Was to much of a risk as the time but he would have been a nice punt for under 4.5 in that defence

        1. El Presidente
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Rodgers idealised this before Justin's injury and it made perfect sense because Justin was at the time their best performing defender. Not so sure about this tactical design with this kid... I think it will at some point see Castagne migrating to the left..

      • Shark Team
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Had plans for a cheeky Auba(C) Vs BUR(A) but now I'm afraid

        1. CONNERS
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Was planning on bringing in Auba or Saka for the blank GW but may have to reconsider...

      • Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I wonder when Cengiz Under will start getting a run of games for Leicester. Looks quality whenever he's played and Leicester have had an issue at RW for a couple of seasons now.

        1. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Really? I think he's struggled to have much on an impact.

          Albrighton & Pereira play because they are just better in the system.

          1. Tcheco
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I guess they're a better fit in a flat 4 midfield. Would definitely play him on the right in a 4231

          2. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 2 months ago

              He's managed to have an impact, got attacking returns in very limited minutes usually off the bench

              Basically has 2 assists in max 4-5 games and always off the bench

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Roy is only playing PVA so Fulham win & Brighton go down...

          1. Tcheco
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            The Relegator

          2. Tasty Jerk
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah, worst case scenario we lose today then makes Brighton even more nervous 😀

          3. Crunchie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            We are not safe yet by any means lol. Mitchell is injured we have a u23 left back on the bench

            1. Hazz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Not saying you're wrong but Mitchell is on the bench too.

          4. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Ex-Whites boss too

        3. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Pereira at RM. Wish I'd got him now, looks very enticing

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Same
            I knew it tbh. But can't have them all with FT's

            1. Flair
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I wasn't sure he'd continue playing there, ugh.

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Maddison out. Albrighton sh.te
                They lack options.
                Hopefully Arsenal won't throw towel.

                1. Flair
                  • 3 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Hope they throw it in for Barnes

        4. michaelington
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          How many players are you looking to field in GW29? My initial plan is 9 and trying to see how that compares.

          1. El-Kloppico
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            7

          2. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            11

          3. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Full team if FH, 9 if not

          4. Root
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            10

          5. Pino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            10

        5. CONNERS
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          David Luiz starts over Holding. Congratulations Barnes owners.

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Cedric at RB. The Barnes Bonanza about to begin.

          2. SackWenger
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I’ll take Luiz over Holding every time

        6. Mr. O'Connell
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          When did Harvey Barnes become owned by half the game!?

          1. Jordan.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            its a quarter of the game about 2million difference

            1. Mr. O'Connell
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              *half the active game

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Prob 75% of active players

          2. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            This week

          3. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            This week more than 1.1m new managers. I'm scared now not owning him 😀

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              He’s gonna flop

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Amen

            2. Mr. O'Connell
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I always own him at the wrong times. Tbf he's actually a good option these days. Just didn't think it was worth a hit to play him over Bamford or Raph. Obv that's not looking too great right now...

              1. Amey
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Have we taken too much risk ?
                No Leicester + No Kane © !
                😆

          4. El Presidente
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            It's called spoon feeding.

        7. HippY
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          A question to those who haven't used the TC chip yet, when are you pulling the trigger?

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Either next week or whenever Kane gets his DGW. We may have a ton more doubles if the PL goes through with its proposed changes as per Ben

          2. JONALDINHO
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            After the season ends

          3. El-Kloppico
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Waiting for Spurs next DGW. Will be SOU at hone + another match.. hopefully Kane be in form and pushing for golden boot at this stage.

        8. Cojones of Destiny
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          u just know vardy is gonna score when u don’t have him

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Can't remeber ever having him get a big score for me

            1. Cojones of Destiny
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              he never scored when i owned him never again

        9. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          First time owning Barnes, lets see what all the fuss is about 🙂

          1. Rolls-Royce
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            You didn't have him for his 19 points haul last season?

            1. Bubz
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Actually I did. First time owning this season though

              1. Rolls-Royce
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Oh, same. This season he looks even better but not sure how he gonna perform without Mads.

            2. Flair
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              What a beautiful day that was

          2. HippY
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I'm also in the first-time owner club. It was between him and Watkins so an assist would be a nice start!

        10. Rolls-Royce
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Should've done Holding-> Ricardo (-4) and played instead of Raphinia.

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            This whole game is could, woulda, shoulda. No point worrying about it now.

          2. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah definitely

        11. Rabb05
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Would love a 0-0 here or 1-0 fulham with a lookman goal or assist!

        12. Boomerang V
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I bench boosted Raphinha, Bamford and... Holding 🙁

          Pope is my only hope of getting something out of it.

          1. El-Kloppico
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Mine is Bamford, Dallas, Neto & McCarthy

          2. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Prepare to be disappointed

          3. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Leeds are cursed when it domes to bench boost

        13. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Palace have signed Johnny Briggs as a new coach. Hopefully he pulls another one out of the bag

        14. mezza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Wasn’t expecting Perrier’s to continue OOP.

          Went Digne over him in a close call.

          1. mezza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Pereira*

          2. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah I’d say most were you f the same opinion and made the same move.

          3. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Same. Pretty annoyed at it already. Will be even more furious if he hauls

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              At least you know a lot of people were weighing up the same thing.

              1. Flair
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                I don't care about that at all.

        15. Tomm
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I have DLC triple capt on Monday

          fingers crossed I have kane also so I'm hiding

        16. Double Entry
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Will be interesting to see how Barnes fairs without Maddison today..

        17. Lukakuna
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Why is Arteta fielding their senior team against Leicester?

        18. The Train Driver
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Chance of Saka to stay benched? Antonio first sub...

          1. Lukakuna
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Could stay on the bench if Arsenal is ahead! 0% chance then.

          2. CONNERS
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Unlikely. Expect he and Auba will get 20/30 mins in second half.

          3. Party time
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Zero

          4. CONNERS
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Sterling, Cancelo and Gundo all in top 5 most transferred out players so far this GW.

            Seems a little hasty.

            1. Scots Gooner
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Especially with another double next week

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Jerktastic

          5. TheDragon
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Bench boosted Johnstone 🙂

            Also bench boosted Mitchell 🙁 annoying

            Johnstone, Mitchell, Lowton, Raphinha - on 12 points currently - will I get to 20?! Probably not?

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Lowton is so hot right now

            2. CONNERS
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I TC'd Kane and have Lowton 3rd on my bench.

              Enjoy your haul.

            3. HippY
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              If it makes you feel better I used my bench boost for a grand total of 4 extra points

          6. Dynamic Duos
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Any chance Burnley can keep a cs today or will the just get smashed off Spurs?

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I expect 1-0 Spurs win.

            2. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Save points is where it's at

            3. Magic Zico
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              3-1 Spurs

            4. CONNERS
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              If they play like they did against WBA last week then no chance.

            5. chrismoo75
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Hiding behind sofa today. Non Kane owner and currently 6k rank so could be very damaging. 0-0 seems a nice score to me !

              1. AC/DC AFC
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Who is your captain?

          7. AC/DC AFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I reckon Palace give Fulham a good game on their patch.

            2 - 2 or 2 - 1?

            With some experience in the back line too.

          8. diesel001
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Stats for defensive picks
            Stats + eye test for offensive picks

            The reason for eye test with offensive picks is that xG doesn't give you enough information about the quality of chances created and the way the chances were created. What you want with offensive picks are players who (i) get lots of big chances, (ii) can finish (i.e. not Brighton players) and (iii) play in teams who create lots of big chances themselves (i.e. do not rely on defensive errors).