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Mbeumo, Toney – or both? Which Brentford attacker to buy in FPL

Brentford are set to rise to the top of our Season Ticker for ease of fixture difficulty once their Gameweek 8 clash with Chelsea is out of the way.

Their (mostly) favourable run stretches from Gameweeks 9-19, which takes us right the way through to Boxing Day.

Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers currently on a Wildcard ought to be seriously thinking about the Bees’ assets for this period, then, while the rest of us will likely be eyeing up Thomas Frank’s side once Saturday’s visit of the European champions has been and gone.

Frontmen Ivan Toney (£6.4m) and Bryan Mbeumo (£5.5m), who are the two most-bought Brentford players of Gameweek 8, will be among those competing for our attention.

One is the penalty-taking talisman of their promotion-winning season, the other is a cheaper, ‘out of position’ midfielder who has matched his strike partner for goals scored in 2021/22.

But which of them is more deserving of our investment – and is there room for both in our FPL squads going forward? Our Premium Members article delves deeper.

MBEUMO v TONEY: THE COMPARISONS

Mbeumo stacks up very well next to Toney when it comes to goal threat, trumping or matching his strike partner for penalty box touches (32 v 29), goal attempts (17 v 16), shots in the box (11 v 11) and big chances (5 v 2).

Arguably the most eye-catching stat is ‘expected goals’ (xG) when penalties are taken out of the equation: Mbeumo’s figure (3.2) is almost three times that of Toney’s (1.11).

Toney has been the more creative of the two so far in 2021/22. Edging Mbeumo for chances created by 11-8, Toney has supplied four ‘big chances’ to his strike partner’s zero.

Indeed, the forward’s ‘expected assists’ (xA) tally is 1.91 to Mbeumo’s 0.54.

All of that leaves the two Brentford attackers pretty much level for expected goal involvement (xGI) overall: Mbeumo the greater goal threat from open play, Toney the man on penalties who looks like he may chip in with almost as many assists this season as goals.

MBEUMO AND TONEY: HOW THEY COMPARE TO OTHER FPL PLAYERS

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  1. Machine_Gunnerz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    My 256th WC team. Appreciate feedback. Thanks guys.
    Ramsdale
    Cancelo Azpi TAA Veltman
    Salah Son KDB Saka
    Armstrong Calum

    Foster Liva brownhill Davis

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Any money left?

      1. Machine_Gunnerz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Omit left

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Forwards too weak.

      1. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        weak is being generous

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      You will be faced with upgrading your forwards sooner or later...

    4. Mozumbus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      KDB over Lukaku is against the trend. One of Toney or Mbeumo is in vogue.

    5. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I don’t understand going for Wilson at all.
      Newcastle have been pretty garbage aside from ASM - who has taken Wilson’s role really.
      Wilson isn’t even back from injury for sure.
      They’ll probably have a new manager in the next week or so - waaaay too much unknown for me.

      Go Watkins over him.
      Saka > Mbeumo
      Armstrong > Toney/Hwang for me.

    6. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I don't like either front line choices. I also don't think KDB is worthy of the price tag until you see him click. I love the backline balance.

    7. amonito
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Maybe you could consider sth like KDB, Armstrong, Calum => Gundogan, Toney, Lukaku. This way you could rotate Lukaku/Ronaldo as well.

  2. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Twitter flood with flags, wtf is this

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Twatter twits being twonks

  3. DannyDrinkVodka
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Ramsdale Foster
    Cancelo Dias Alonso Rudiger Livra
    Salah Raphinha Benrahma Sarr ESR
    Lukaku Antonio Jimenez

    0.6 ITB 1FT

    A) Roll
    B) Benrahma>Torres exact change

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      A

  4. winchester
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    on WC. price rises annoyingly messed up initial plans..

    ramsdale (foster)
    taa cancelo *** (livra ***)
    salah son raph *** (***)
    lukaku antonio ***

    Rudiger or James?

    A) rudiger/james+(duffy)+mbeumo+(luiz)+hwang
    B) james+(manquillo)+townsend/saka/mbeumo+(brownhill)+toney

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B with Mbeumo.

      1. winchester
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        cheers. james over rudiger right? what do u think about the benching players (brownhill, manquillo)?

    2. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Geez, tough one. Maybe slightly A if you believe enough in Hwang. If not I think B sets you up a little better because if Hwang flops then your team likely ends up like B anyways

      1. winchester
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        cheers. indeed a tough one.. yeah scary to go without toney basically. but hwang could pay dividen indeed.
        what do you think about the bench players in option B?

    3. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      B - I'd go Saka because I wouldn't want BRE double up and Saka is exciting to watch.

      1. winchester
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. what do think of the bench players in B? toney seems a bit essential on wc, right?

        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Bench players Smench players hehe

  5. Thomas Magnum
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    One of the questions I’m faced with on WC is whether or not Saka is worth the extramoney over Mbuemo?
    A) Mbuemo and a defender up to 4.8 (no Toney & can get leftover funds)
    B) Saka and Manquillo, 0itb (Manq will be sitting last on bench and Livra upgraded to 4th defender)
    Whichever mid I go with would start basically weekly

    1. Riders of Yohan
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I don’t think Saka is worth it personally. Think mbeuno can easily match him

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Mbeumo is better than Saka for me - regardless of money.
      That he’s cheaper is an added bonus.

    3. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Awesome. Thanks for the responses, made my planning a bit easier now!

    4. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      gut says Saka will get more points over the season - are you saying Livra is starting every week in B?

      He is good option, but not sure I'd want to start him week in/week out.

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry, should’ve classified better in B Livra would be the 4th choice in a 3-4-3 set up so would come off the bench if one of the 3 don’t play or if one has a bad fixture he would be first man up

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          In that case the 4.8mill def you get for Mbuemo is just a bench option most weeks?

          Id be happy to have Livra as back up, and Saka in my starting 11 over Mbeumo.

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            The 4.8 defender will likely either be first choice or in rotation with Tomiyasu. Looking at someone like a Brentford/Brighton defender and banking the cash, or even a punt on a more attacking Targett/Firpo

    5. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I'd say pick the defenders you're thinking about in the post so people know what the options are.

      That said, i'd go A, and if i had the time you have to consider your best defender option with fixtures, do that. Maybe Arsenal/BRE?

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        You’re right that’s what I should’ve done, I left out the options just out of fear the post would get too long and ignored. As I touched above a little if A my defense would like look like TAA Dias Tomiyasu 4.8 Livra. And of course there’s different options like Tierney & a 4.4 instead say

        1. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I like the Tierney pick personally at 4.9, then at 4.4 you could play safe with Duffy/Veltman or more punty with Lamptey or Ait Nouri (who Wolves fans are crying out for as the left wing-back). Southampton/Brighton defence rotate quite well

        2. BIGREDDOG
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Fair. Yeah I stand by what I said with White. GL

  6. Riders of Yohan
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Not planning on hitting the WC but keen for your thoughts on this!

    Sanchez
    TAA, Cancelo, Rudiger
    Salah, Son, Raph, Mbeuno, Gallagher
    Lukaku, Antonio

    Steele. White, Livra, 4.5

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Prefer 3-4-3 but it's good. Gallagher might be better than the forwards at that price point.

      1. Riders of Yohan
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I also prefer a playing 5th mid compared to a 0 point striker but prefer Gallagher over hwang

        1. I Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah fair enough. Ideally you would have Toney over both of them but I assume you don't have the money for that.

          1. Riders of Yohan
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah unfortunately not. Would need to drop Son for foden or something. Am keen to keep son as I can see the need for 3 premiums if ronaldo, Kane or KDB explode

    2. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I like this team. A lot.

      1. Riders of Yohan
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks! It’s tempting to hit the button

  7. jason_ni
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Am in 2minds about keeping Alonso and hoping he starts, I guess we wont have any indication from Tuchel.

    Raphina and Luiz are both looking unlikley to start, so I'm left with Brownhill from the bench vs Man City if I have any no shows.

    A) Save FT, hope Alonso starts (Along with Rudi/Lukaku flags) Gives me room to bring in TAA next week if I wanted without a hit.
    B) Alonso out for Kyle Waker in.
    C) -4 Alonso/Ronaldo(Lukaku if confirmed he is out) for TAA & Vardy

    Current lineup
    Ramsdale
    Cancelo - Rudigar* - Alonso - Tomiyasu - Duffy
    Salah - Saka
    Ronaldo - Lukaku* - Antonio
    Raphina - Luiz - Brownhill

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think Alonso starts. I don't particularly like Walker as a pick. I don't think you should take a hit with your team either. So basically I don't like A, B or C.

      1. jason_ni
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        lol - lovely!

        Why not a fan of Walker? 5.5 he seems good value to me, and reckon he should be starting most weeks for City.

        I'm adverse to hits, taken none so far this season, so C would be last on my list, but if kaku is confirmed out, I may do something along those lines.

        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Well Walker is my pick of your bunch then dude. Good luck!

  8. Totalfootball
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Who starts against Brentford?

    Alonso or Chilwell? And why

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      IMO Chilwell has the position for the majority of the rest of the season. I think Tuchel prefers him. I think Alonso got the spot initially because Chilwell had a late pre-season, but now that Chilwell is back to fitness and back at his best, it's his spot to lose.

      1. Totalfootball
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        So Alonso just goes out of the window?

        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Depends on your team, your bench, your FT/ ITB etc.

    1. Totalfootball
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      What is this?!

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      it's apparently a 'red flag' to say those things, like it will soon be a 'red flag' to say you vote a certain way or that you still eat coco pops as an adult...oops

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        But why they are suddenly doing that same time

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          trying to be funny - seems that plenty of the imbeciles on there are entertained by it so fair play to them

        2. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Because they are bell ends

    3. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I must be so old now, that I have no actual clue what is going on here.
      Anyone care to explain what this is all about?

        1. jason_ni
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Its just so cringy - or is that just me!?

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Not just you, I would hate if my feed was flooded with that

  9. BeWater
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Everyone posting wildcard drafts with Foden, Son, Toney, Mbeumo, double City defence and double Chelsea defence.

    I'm sat here with Sarr, Benny, Greenwood and Jota.

    I feel like someone who bought a discman the day the iPod was released.

    1. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      This actually made me laugh 🙂

    2. Haa-lala-land
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      You'll do well to ignore the outside noise. Most advice from people any given week will be to buy the player that returned in the most recent gameweek.
      Last GW, Mbuemo, Foden and Son all returned, whilst Sarr, Benrahma, Greenwood and Jota did not.
      Id add Greenwood looks likely to lose his place in Man It's XI very soon.

      1. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        I used my FT on Ayling to Cancelo about 10 days ago. Got my WC but holding off from activating it. Greenwood to Raphinha is my move next week.

    3. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      It was the summer of 2002, I was off doing camp america, and one of the other leaders had a minidisk player, nifty i thought, he raved about it, so I purchased one before returning to these shores.
      Think I ended up buying maybe 5 disks, while everyone around me had thier ipods with digital music and 100's of songs.

      Was a decision I've long regretted!

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        it's mad the sort of things I forget, bloody loved my minidisk player!

      2. BeWater
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        My original post is loosely based on the truth! I bought a really expensive minidisc player just as iPods were taking off. I still have it and a bunch of discs with old songs. Refuse to throw it away 🙂

  10. BIGREDDOG
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Alright lads. Here's my current team. Whats my move this week? I'll try to give feedback on other teams. Cheers.

    Sanchez Steele
    TAA White Coady Livra Williams
    Salah Son Sarr Raphinha Allan
    CR7 Antonio ASM

    Thanks in advance.

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Got any money in the bank?

      1. BIGREDDOG
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        0.1, 1FT

        1. BeWater
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I would roll then. Use 2FTs next week to bring in Lukaku for Ronaldo and a City/Chelsea defender for Coady.

          1. BIGREDDOG
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks mate. This is what I'm looking at.

    2. tyron
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      How much money itb? Can you afford a cfc or city Def? If not maybe a one week punt on one of sarr or raph to torres maybe?

      1. BIGREDDOG
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Replied above. I'm too scared of Torres... He burned me before. Is he likely to start this weekend?

        1. Thomas Magnum
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          The consensus around here and the City forums is he starts but we both know that means very little. Would roll the FT though and look to bring in Lukaku if he looks good for CR and give you the option to spread the extra cash if need be

          1. BIGREDDOG
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks. I'm considering this. May be I do it next week.

        2. tyron
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          I honestly believe he will start this weekend. But again who am I... Definitely not pep but from past experiences I am led to believe that these are the fixtures torres will play in. Weaker opposition. Jesus absent n longer rest than all other competition. Also a must win game in ucl midweek.

    3. winchester
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I'd roll. and then bring in lukaku+city or chelsea defender next gw.

  11. RamaLangaDingDong
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Hello dudes and dudettes,

    Mbeumo or Gallagher... and why?

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Mbuemo because of stats

    2. Maverick 11
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Personally want rid of Gallagher ASAP still think he’s a good player but now no set plays and Viera has spoken about him playing deeper and wanting him to do more tracking back

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Link to article ?

      2. Maverick 11
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Apologies I may have misinterpreted Viera, he merely said he enjoys defending and closing people down. My bad.

    3. tyron
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Mbuemo only because better fixtures after Chelsea playing in a higher role and more goal threat

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I think the Gallagher bandwagon has derailed. Eze back soon as well.

  12. Maverick 11
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Antonio + Raph > Hwang + son -4

    1. tyron
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Only because raph may be a doubt I would but not keen on losing antonio vs this everton team

    2. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Getting rid of two amazing assets for 1 amazing asset and a bandwagon? no

      1. tyron
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Agreed here. But I understand the son temptation most definitely but agreed not fully worth it

      2. Maverick 11
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        It’s the only way I can get to son other option I Taa > someone but against that

        1. tyron
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Maybe son can wait until gw 11 or 12

  13. NWallis
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I sleep less and less. Anyway i was at the site at for a few hours around 3 in the morning and it got me thinking. are there any articles published at night? this night there were none.

    Sent from my own phone

    1. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      No

      sent from my woodfire oven

  14. tyron
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Hey guys this is my current set up for gw 8. Have a benching headache let me know thoughts plz what would you do differently?

    Ramsdale
    Azpi rudiger dias shaw
    Salah (c) torres benrahma gray
    Antonio Ronaldo

    Foster livramento sarr Dennis.

    No wildcard intact. Plan is Ronaldo to lukaku in gw 9
    Would you set up differently?

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Team is fine imo.

      1. tyron
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate. No temptation to start livramento ahead of anyone? Don't know why my faith is so low in that everton west ham fixture

    2. BIGREDDOG
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I think you have the right idea for now.

      1. tyron
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate. Will see how it goes. Will be dependent on pep

    3. Maverick 11
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Prefer Sarr to benny

      1. tyron
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Interesting. Something I'll definitely have to think about

      2. tyron
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 5 months ago

        Why if I may ask

        1. Maverick 11
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 5 months ago

          Because I believe Liverpool are without Allison and haven’t actually looked rock solid defensively, and Sarr is Watford’s talisman. Also Watford could get new manager bounce and you have West Ham cover on Antonio don’t see them scoring too many against Everton.

          1. tyron
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks mate will definitely consider

  15. Maverick 11
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Gallagher> Torres

    1. tyron
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Think this is the move

  16. tyron
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Something about torres in the next 3 is so tempting and I am not sure exactly why. But I'm going with him

  17. FFSbet.com
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Klopp: “They are all good, they are all in a good way, let me say it like this. So it looks really like Trent and Diogo will be fine, they will train with us tomorrow completely normal, that’s the plan.”

  18. BeWater
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    This is certainly welcome news...

    https://twitter.com/lfc/status/1448310139870666758?s=21

    1. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Excellent - just a slight IB injury for him then. But might still start on bench , though

  19. Ci Siamo
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Is ESR pretty nailed now?

    1. out for a goalkick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      I think he's a rotation risk dependant on opponent - but the ongoing Xhaka injury does give him a boost

  20. Tarby
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    I'd always felt it was likely I'd have Mbeumo and never really considered that I'd bring Toney in.

    With the key goals of Wissa though recently I wonder if Mbeumo might get his minutes lowered over the coming weeks. With that in mind and the fact that Toney is on pens I've done a reversal and getting Toney in on my WC I think.

    I think Toney is the best forward under 7.0
    In midfield between 5.0 and 6.0 I think Gallagher, Townsend, Doucoure, ESM might all be good equally good options as Mbeumo

    I also want to avoid a couple up on any attacking teams I think, especially an average side like Brentford. Same with West Ham and why I didn't have Benrahma with Antonio for a while which in hindsight would have worked for a bit!

  21. out for a goalkick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Sanchez | Steele
    Cancelo | Christensen | White | Livra | Amartey
    Salah | Raph | Saka | Gray | Gallagher
    Ronaldo | Lukaku | Dennis

    Hit the WC button or sit tight for another week or so???

  22. SembadaFPL
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Why not both

    1. Tarby
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 5 months ago

      Only if you think Brentford will score loads of goals! I don't like the idea of attacking double-ups unless they're in a team that score more than average and also have a pair involved in almost every goal. Like Mane and Salah or Son and Kane

  23. epletyv
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 5 months ago

    Please give me some advice on possible transfers this week. 2 FT.
    Sanchez - Foster
    Duffy - TAA - Rudiger - Marcal - Livramento
    Gallagher - Raphina - Salah - Sissoko - Gray
    Jiminez - Lukaku - Ronaldo